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iekku | morning | 03:24 |
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special | is there a convenient way to prevent the n950 display from going to sleep? | 03:31 |
iekku | i think not | 03:35 |
special | is there an inconvenient way? :) | 03:35 |
iekku | :) | 03:36 |
iekku | there's even no way to change time | 03:36 |
iekku | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=221 | 03:39 |
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special | hah, I think I managed to kill mce (and thus, prevent it from shutting off the screen) | 04:21 |
special | although that also prevents.. everything else mce does. | 04:22 |
special | trying to get it via /sys/, dbus, and gconf all failed. | 04:22 |
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Sage_ | special: yes, mce handles the screen things :) | 06:14 |
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special | is there a decent way to get on-device screenshots? | 06:33 |
iekku | there's a app for that. why you need screenshots? | 06:34 |
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special | to solicit opinions on UI ideas. | 06:37 |
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iekku | from Widgets gallery >> Debug Tools >> Take screenshot | 06:44 |
special | thanks. If only I hadn't broken something during boot. | 06:52 |
special | eh, tomorrow. | 06:58 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5234 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5234 | 07:14 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: review the .patch ^ | 07:16 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/4282398 <- insmod.static probably not really needed there | 07:30 |
Stskeeps | i concur | 07:31 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5235 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5235 | 07:36 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5234 Accepted promotion request | 07:37 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5236 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5236 | 07:38 |
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Sage_ | ... | 07:39 |
Sage_ | have choice for module-init-tools needed by kernel-adaptation-n950: kmod module-init-tools | 07:39 |
Sage_ | it obsoletes the package!!!! | 07:39 |
* Sage_ kicks OBS | 07:39 | |
Stskeeps | bug please | 07:40 |
Sage_ | where? :) | 07:41 |
Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=lsof&project=CE%3AUX%3AMTF ?!? | 07:42 |
Sage_ | what is so special about i586 next? | 07:43 |
Sage_ | that filepermission is different for doc in there | 07:43 |
Stskeeps | yes | 07:43 |
Stskeeps | that was what i wondered about as well | 07:43 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: if you can give your eye to those 5235 and 5236 as well | 07:44 |
Stskeeps | yes, in amoment | 07:45 |
Sage_ | thx | 07:47 |
Sage_ | after those at least image build should succeed. | 07:47 |
Sage_ | Stskeeps: there is something funny about the documents build https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qca2&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared | 07:48 |
Stskeeps | yes | 07:48 |
Stskeeps | but what would have caused it? | 07:48 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5236 Accepted promotion request | 07:48 |
Sage_ | well, that is also in current release | 07:49 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5235 Accepted promotion request | 07:50 |
Sage_ | does i586 and arm still have that doxygen in buildroot difference? | 07:51 |
Stskeeps | shouldn't.. | 07:52 |
Sage_ | ok, that has been fixed | 07:52 |
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w00t | Sage_: checking out https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlfilemuncher/pull/3 .. seemingly i never got a mail about it | 08:05 |
Sage_ | w00t: ah, it was quite old thing :) | 08:11 |
Sage_ | I think I had something else somewhere as well | 08:12 |
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Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://sage.kapsi.fi/Nemo-tmp/testing-versions/0.20120719.0.1.NEMO.2012-07-19.5/ | 10:10 |
Stskeeps | thanks | 10:10 |
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rzr | https://github.com/jpavelek/meego-handset-theme-darko/issues/1# ThemE | 11:04 |
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w00t | Sage_: ping | 11:09 |
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w00t | Sage_: I have a simple QML launcher stub app (for booster) that I'd like to package, but not sure where to send it.. thoughts? | 11:11 |
anYc | Is it possible to write an application that runs on Maemo and Nemo? | 11:16 |
anYc | (after building it for one of the two) | 11:17 |
w00t | almost certainly not, you'll probably need a rebuild - but I suppose miracles are possible | 11:17 |
Stskeeps | anYc: hardfp :/ | 11:17 |
anYc | ah okay, but shouldn't be too hard to get the source compiling on both systems? | 11:20 |
w00t | nope | 11:20 |
Stskeeps | what kind of app? | 11:21 |
Sage_ | w00t: I would say CE:MW:Shared as qt-components is there as well. | 11:21 |
Sage_ | w00t: it doesn't require MTF right? | 11:21 |
w00t | it doesn't require qt-components, either, just Qt/QML, but yes, I was thinking CE:MW:Shared | 11:21 |
w00t | but it does have an _optional_ dependency on booster (applauncherd).. | 11:22 |
Sage_ | ? | 11:22 |
w00t | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmllauncher/blob/master/main.cpp | 11:22 |
Sage_ | I have been wondering if applauncherd could be pushed to CE:MW:Shared | 11:22 |
anYc | I started to play around with Zeroconf/Avahi, it didn't find a GUI browser so i thought about building one. Shouldn't be too complicated with avahi bindings. | 11:23 |
anYc | mostly visualizing stuff that comes over dbus | 11:23 |
w00t | Sage_: mm, i think it also has optional mtf dependency, no? | 11:24 |
Sage_ | w00t: it has yes | 11:25 |
w00t | do you know what the dep is for? | 11:26 |
Sage_ | Haven't checked | 11:28 |
w00t | I guess it's for boosting mtf applications | 11:30 |
w00t | meegotouch-meegotouch-applauncherd% ls meego (W29 - 07/19@13:30:36 CEST) | 11:30 |
w00t | 0.12.1 0.15.5 0.18.1 README | 11:30 |
w00t | 0.15.10 0.17.0 0.29.1 applauncherd.desktop | 11:31 |
w00t | I am not sure I even want to ask what those is for. | 11:31 |
w00t | lol | 11:31 |
w00t | each directory has .spec/.yaml/.changes/tarball script for each version.. | 11:31 |
Stskeeps | at least it has yaml | 11:31 |
w00t | so, I guess the question is, do we care about boosting for mtf stuff? if we do, we can't move it | 11:32 |
w00t | hm | 11:32 |
Sage_ | w00t: I think only MTF application that is in nemo is controlpanel. | 11:33 |
w00t | well, and people/SMS, etc, but all those are going away.. | 11:33 |
Sage_ | yes | 11:33 |
w00t | the dependency doesn't look optional, at the moment | 11:34 |
w00t | we'd need to hack that in | 11:34 |
w00t | I guess removing that may also break third party apps a bit, which isn't nice | 11:35 |
Sage_ | well, need to think about the structure again we are anyway moving to new obs at some point and restructuring the stuff | 11:36 |
w00t | Sage_: can I just jam it into CE:MW:MTF for now then? | 11:37 |
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Sage_ | I've been thinking if the CE:MW:Shared and CE:MW:MTF should be merged, but then again it would mean that CE:MW:PlasmaActive and others should be merged there as well. | 11:38 |
Sage_ | the point of separate CE:MW:MTF was that changes in there wouldn't affect to other UX projects and break those accidently | 11:39 |
w00t | yes.. | 11:39 |
w00t | in practice it seems to cause a bit of pain with issues like this though :p | 11:40 |
Sage_ | true | 11:40 |
w00t | Sage_: what's the difference between Project:MTF:MW and CE:MW:MTF again | 11:43 |
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Sage_ | w00t: Project:MTF:MW is the devel project for it | 11:47 |
w00t | ok | 11:47 |
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w00t | we really need to pick more obvious names in new OBS | 11:47 |
w00t | like.. "Devel:MTF:MW" *shock* :P | 11:47 |
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Sage_ | yes :) | 11:56 |
Sage_ | actually i was thinking more like nemo:mw:mtf{,:testing,:devel} | 11:57 |
Sage_ | or even | 11:57 |
Sage_ | nemo:mw:mtf{:stable,:testing,:devel} | 11:57 |
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w00t | mmm | 12:03 |
w00t | and flow being that direct submissions are blocked everywhere, branch a package, submitreq to devel, and handle promotions from there - somehow? | 12:04 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#5239 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5239 | 12:32 |
w00t | Sage_: https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/5240 | 12:34 |
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jukkaeklund | hi | 15:46 |
jukkaeklund | quick question: what is the recommended app SDK for Nemo? | 15:46 |
jukkaeklund | assuming latest Qt SDK and use Harmattan target? | 15:47 |
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jukkaeklund | w00t_nemo, ping | 16:08 |
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* jukkaeklund the feeling when no one is hearing you.. | 16:11 | |
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Paimen | jukkaeklund: I hear you, but that is because I have Jukka in hilite | 16:13 |
jukkaeklund | NICE | 16:13 |
jukkaeklund | oops | 16:13 |
Paimen | well Jukka is good name to have :P | 16:14 |
special | here's a mystery: how did /home/nemo become owned by '500:500' overnight, when the device was off? | 16:22 |
Stskeeps | special: well | 16:24 |
Stskeeps | perhaps harmattan booted? | 16:24 |
special | could be | 16:24 |
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w00t | jukkaeklund: pong | 16:40 |
iekku | w00t, are you having identity crisis? | 16:41 |
w00t | iekku: one is mobile, one isn't :) | 16:41 |
jukkaeklund | w00t, got my answer thanks | 16:42 |
w00t | jukkaeklund: bah :P | 16:42 |
special | http://i.imgur.com/oI4N8.png what I'm thinking for a landscape calculator. Any suggestions? | 16:49 |
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alterego | New dialer is being built, should work for basic MO and MT calls. | 17:05 |
alterego | Also has a silence ring tone button .. | 17:05 |
alterego | Here's the repo :) http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/tswindell:/branches:/Project:/MTF:/Tracker/CE_UX_MTF_armv7hl/ | 17:06 |
alterego | enjoy :) | 17:06 |
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w00t | special: hmm, i like it | 17:11 |
* w00t notices the terrible AA on the digit display | 17:11 | |
w00t | is that my fault, or did you change something? | 17:11 |
w00t | huh, it's my fault | 17:11 |
special | I think it's your fault; I noticed it from the beginning | 17:11 |
special | didn't look at it yet | 17:11 |
w00t | I have it locally, so yeah, not your doing | 17:11 |
special | I think it does have smooth:true, oddly. | 17:12 |
w00t | can you explain mc/mr/m+/m-? I never remember what the hell they do. | 17:12 |
special | memory | 17:12 |
w00t | I know that much, but.. specifics | 17:12 |
jukkaeklund | mr is recall and mc is clear? | 17:13 |
special | m+ is add to memory, mr is memory recall, mc is clear | 17:13 |
w00t | man, does everyone know how to work calculators except me? :) | 17:13 |
faenil | w00t, I didn't :D | 17:13 |
special | nobody knowing what they are is not a good case for those buttons being useful :p | 17:14 |
faenil | :D | 17:14 |
w00t | special: what about having a history display instead? | 17:14 |
special | that was actually my first thought after moving the display over | 17:14 |
special | I played with it a bit, but I couldn't come up with anything that made sense. | 17:14 |
w00t | one of the recent QML demos had one I seem to recall.. | 17:15 |
special | being an immediate mode calculator and having the result at the top makes it.. complicated. | 17:15 |
w00t | yes | 17:15 |
w00t | http://labs.qt.nokia.com/ | 17:15 |
w00t | play the video, first demo | 17:15 |
w00t | dunno if it's useful for inspiration.. | 17:16 |
special | adding machine style, basically. | 17:16 |
w00t | I imagine it still does have an element of usefulness when you're doing multiple calculations, e.g. | 17:17 |
special | I'm not entirely sure about changing the result display that dramatically in the switch to landscape | 17:18 |
special | in portait mode, it's huge, orange, and at the top; having it change to a small text on the bottom left seems jarring. | 17:18 |
w00t | it doesn't need to be jarring if you animate the transition | 17:19 |
w00t | (but you know that) | 17:19 |
special | mm, still. | 17:20 |
w00t | I'd say it would be worth an experiment | 17:20 |
w00t | if you don't want to, that's fine | 17:20 |
w00t | I'm still not entirely sure about the added functionality | 17:20 |
special | I personally can't stand using calculators without history, so I like the idea | 17:20 |
special | I'll play around with history after work | 17:21 |
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w00t | cool | 17:23 |
w00t | me too; for the record | 17:23 |
w00t | I hate, when using harmattan, having to go "now, what was that number I had three calculations ago that I need now?" | 17:23 |
special | see, that's why you need the m+ button. | 17:23 |
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w00t | hahaha | 17:23 |
w00t | you're persistant, I'll give you that | 17:24 |
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alterego | special: have you tried adding smooth:true to your text input field? | 17:38 |
special | that text is entirely w00t's fault, I only did the good parts. | 17:38 |
w00t | >:( | 17:38 |
w00t | (and yes I think it is smoothed) | 17:39 |
special | it does have smooth:true | 17:39 |
alterego | Can I look at the source? | 17:39 |
w00t | qmlcalc on nemomobile github | 17:40 |
special | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcalc/blob/master/Display.qml | 17:40 |
alterego | kay | 17:40 |
alterego | weird, I wonder why that is | 17:41 |
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special | I have a suspicion that unsetting/resetting it during refitText might solve it | 17:42 |
special | but I was trying not to get distracted from my actual goal | 17:42 |
w00t | -nod- | 17:43 |
alterego | You should use this anyway: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/qtquick/lcd-segment-display-20120316-02.png | 17:43 |
alterego | :) | 17:43 |
w00t | Sage_: submitted qmllauncher again.. would appreciate if you can review that sometime, because once that's in i can submit qmlcontacts to CE:Apps :) | 17:47 |
w00t | i'd also like to modify qmlcalc, gallery, etc, to use it | 17:48 |
special | hm, it almost seems like Qt isn't antialiasing very large text | 17:49 |
special | I removed refitText entirely, and with pixelSize:60 it's smooth, but pixelSize:120 isn't | 17:50 |
special | fine in both cases on desktop | 17:50 |
w00t | special: you know.. i'm not sure that would surprise me | 17:50 |
special | somewhere between 60 and 80 it seems to stop doing any AA | 17:51 |
w00t | I seem to vaguely remember something about this inside Qt, but I don't remember specifically what or where | 17:51 |
special | I had the same feeling. | 17:51 |
special | is this GL? | 17:51 |
w00t | yes | 17:52 |
special | still antialiases with GL on desktop | 17:52 |
w00t | mmm. | 17:52 |
special | but it *does* antialias with raster on mobile | 17:52 |
special | so GL on mobile isn't antialiasing large text. | 17:53 |
w00t | i'd just chuck it in a new bug tbh | 17:53 |
w00t | unless you really want to dig into it :) | 17:53 |
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special | I said I wasn't going to get distracted >:( | 17:54 |
w00t | I'm agreeing with that, basically | 17:55 |
alterego | I'd really like a volume control .. | 17:58 |
alterego | like, using the buttons to control volume .. | 17:58 |
w00t | alterego: you have something that produces *sound*? :D | 17:58 |
alterego | my dialer, obviously :P | 17:58 |
w00t | hehe | 17:58 |
alterego | Using alsamixer to change volume is a bit too retro for me | 17:58 |
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special | Qt has a lot of bugs matching 'opengl AND text' | 17:59 |
special | we need distance fields. | 17:59 |
w00t | indeed | 18:00 |
w00t | you backporting that to 4.8? :P | 18:00 |
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special | clearly you never looked at the distance field code. | 18:01 |
w00t | I did | 18:02 |
w00t | but if you volunteer, I won't stop you | 18:02 |
special | I think a true friend would stop me. | 18:02 |
special | but no, definitely not | 18:03 |
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rzr | hi i am back, is there any nm n900 user available to test redak rpm ? | 19:51 |
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jussi | whoever wrote the nemo wiki for installing... | 20:19 |
* jussi waves to Stskeeps | 20:20 | |
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Robcio | hi, i'm trying to flash nemo to emmc but the flasher is stuck on "Sending image to the device. This will take about 10 minutes", any ideas? | 23:13 |
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