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| djszapi | Is it possible to update the system without reflash the new image every week ? | 05:27 |
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| Sage_ | morning | 07:06 |
| beford | morn | 07:06 |
| Sage_ | djszapi: in theory it is possible to do that however there are some things that are sort of "known" problems | 07:07 |
| djszapi | anything serious ? | 07:09 |
| djszapi | Can Nemo be invoked as a book reader in its current state on N950 ? | 07:10 |
| djszapi | is there some good document and/or office-suite for that ? | 07:10 |
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| dcthang | okular ? | 07:15 |
| djszapi | is it available and does it work fine ? | 07:16 |
| djszapi | afaik there is no qt-components interface to okular. | 07:16 |
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| dcthang | available and work fine ->yes | 07:20 |
| dcthang | ah you want something that using qt-components. If so that's not a good choice | 07:20 |
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| Sage_ | djszapi: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Updating | 07:37 |
| Sage_ | I've done it like that and it has worked quite nicely | 07:38 |
| dcthang | nice feature | 07:42 |
| dcthang | hope not break something | 07:42 |
| Sage_ | well we don't test each update so hard to say for sure. :/ | 07:43 |
| Sage_ | if there are problems would be nice if people would report those issues so we could look into those. | 07:43 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4343 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4343 | 07:47 |
| dcthang | yeah, if I found will report there | 07:51 |
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| niqt | morn | 08:00 |
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| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, how do I reset my password at nemomobile.org? | 08:04 |
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| Stskeeps | prod lbt when he's awake | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | he handles the backend | 08:05 |
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| jukkaeklund | k | 08:07 |
| veskuh | vgrade: Did you try nemo on spark with graphicssystem raster? On N950 I get ~30FPS with raster. About 5FPS with SW and above 60 with HW accelerated. | 08:12 |
| veskuh | vgrade: should work with killall meegotouchhome; meegotouchhome -graphicssystem raster -local-theme | 08:13 |
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| Sage_ | veskuh: the MTF MW update is in Project:MTF:MW if you want to try. I couldn't find any missing graphics or anything this time | 08:14 |
| veskuh | Sage_: Sure, I'll try it out. | 08:14 |
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| jukkaeklund | will the webkit 2.2.1 make it to this week's Nemo release? | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | well | 08:15 |
| Sage_ | jukkaeklund: actually not | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | it'll make it to the mer release, we're just fighting to get it out | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | nemo, not sure.. | 08:15 |
| Sage_ | jukkaeklund: nemo is released before the new mer release is out | 08:15 |
| jukkaeklund | sad face | 08:16 |
| jukkaeklund | ? | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | we'll probably do some prerelease images so | 08:17 |
| jukkaeklund | would be nice to try during Saturday hackday | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh, jukkaeklund: btw, quite interesting technical (a bit dry) result from last night: http://pastie.org/3379237 -- that's 'acl' package building on a ARM target that has no native bash, gcc, or typical compilation tools -- all tools are from x86 side | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | means you can make very tiny cores with it | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | (within OBS) | 08:18 |
| * jukkaeklund doing some serious testing with Nemo, expect a flood of bugs later.. (or ideally not of course) | 08:19 | |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, didn't understand but sounds good | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: i'm hoping to be able to build devices from wireless routers to netbooks with this approach | 08:19 |
| jukkaeklund | ok :) | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | same methods and ease | 08:20 |
| djszapi | Sage_: mmm, okay. | 08:20 |
| djszapi | Sage_: I will cut my sim card soon and put into the N9, and get Nemo on my N950. | 08:20 |
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| jukkaeklund | djszapi, nice, you know about the dual boot stuff? | 08:21 |
| Sage_ | alsa updated and so many ti omap fixes in there http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.24_v1.0.25#SoC_Texas_Instruments_OMAP | 08:22 |
| Sage_ | it is nice to see that rx51 updates are still going in :) | 08:22 |
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| Stskeeps | indeed | 08:23 |
| djszapi | jukkaeklund: yes. | 08:24 |
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| niqt | who create icon for nemo? | 08:27 |
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| Sage_ | and audio works even after alsa update on N900 so pushed updates to mer review | 08:27 |
| veskuh | niqt: most are from xruxa | 08:27 |
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| niqt | ok | 08:29 |
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| veskuh | Sage_: Yep, updated the MW stuff. No issues. New theme is working fine, haven't seen any red squares anywhere. | 08:33 |
| djszapi | does irc-chatter work fine on nemo ? | 08:34 |
| jukkaeklund | I'll try.. | 08:35 |
| veskuh | It works pretty well. There is wierd issue with VKB where the screen goes black, but rotating device helps there. | 08:35 |
| mikhas | veskuh, bug report? | 08:36 |
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| jukkaeklund_N950 | hello from nemo.. | 08:37 |
| Sage_ | hi | 08:37 |
| mikhas | We currently looking at 105 commits, trying to find the one that broke self compositing for some corner cases. Your input could help. | 08:37 |
| djszapi | mikhas: if the corner case is reproducible, try git bisect. | 08:37 |
| veskuh | mikhas: sure, I'll try to reproduce and file it. | 08:38 |
| Sage_ | veskuh: so, good to go from your pov? | 08:38 |
| veskuh | Sage_: yes | 08:38 |
| Sage_ | veskuh: k | 08:38 |
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| mikhas | djszapi, that's the hard problem … reproducibility … | 08:39 |
| djszapi | sounds hefty. | 08:41 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4343 Rejected promotion request | 08:42 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4344 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4344 | 08:49 |
| X-Fade | Hmm did I drop out of this chan? :) | 08:50 |
| djszapi | Sage_: I asked X-Fade about where to put kdelibs to. | 08:50 |
| X-Fade | Sage_: CE:MW:Shared? | 08:51 |
| X-Fade | I guess that is the best place for it. | 08:52 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: Does it pull in a lot of dependencies? | 08:52 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: I would say no, but you would say yes imo :) | 08:53 |
| Sage_ | X-Fade: CE:MW:Shared no. We do CE:MW:KDE or something for that if needed. | 08:53 |
| Sage_ | I see KDE as a UX library and not something common. | 08:53 |
| X-Fade | Sage_: That is up to you, but at least I guess it is MW | 08:54 |
| djszapi | Sage_: kdecore is not ux library :) | 08:55 |
| Sage_ | X-Fade: sure, but not to Shared as it would cause maintenance mess for us. | 08:55 |
| djszapi | so is qtcore not. | 08:55 |
| veskuh | mikhas: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104 looks either issue in Maliit or Qt Components | 08:55 |
| djszapi | any repository is okay for me, if I do not need to make the same burden as for Harmattan. | 08:55 |
| djszapi | so that to hack the dynamic libraries into the package. | 08:56 |
| Sage_ | It needs to be such that can be easily maintained by person X that doesn't have any possible effect of other repos. | 08:56 |
| djszapi | I am fine with CE:MW:KDE, but not because kdelibs is a ux library | 08:56 |
| djszapi | but apps4meego should be able to grab the dependencies from kde apps in there then. | 08:56 |
| mikhas | veskuh, great thanks! | 08:56 |
| Sage_ | veskuh: our qt-components is very old :/ | 08:57 |
| mikhas | I still think it's us who causes that bug though ;-) | 08:57 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: is that possible to add to the apps4meego client | 08:57 |
| mikhas | My spider senses are tingling. | 08:57 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: the client does not need to know about dependencies. | 08:57 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: it just imports whatever you point it to. Package kit does the installing part. | 08:57 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: so we can import any repositories out there to get dependencies from ? | 08:58 |
| Sage_ | I would suggest similar structure for the KDE thing that we have with the MTF, so CE:MW:KDE and CE:Apps:KDE that builds against CE:MW:KDE | 08:58 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: If they are on device, then it works. | 08:58 |
| jukkaeklund | X-Fade, trying to take some screenshots for you but getting too bad result.. | 08:59 |
| djszapi | Sage_: works for me. | 08:59 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: you mean if the dependency management works otherwise from that repository by the package manager on the device ? | 08:59 |
| vgrade | veskuh, I did try but saw no improvement so I probably did something wrong. I added the raster flag to the meegotouchhome desktop file in /etc/xdg/autostart | 09:01 |
| djszapi | Sage_: I need to check first what is inside "CE:MW:PlasmaActive". I have a gut feeling the overlap is big enough. | 09:01 |
| djszapi | I could even imagine that CE:MW:KDE would be a subset of that. | 09:02 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: afm imports one(!) repo from OBS. | 09:02 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: So, we would need to create a OBS project which contains all these packages and dependencies. | 09:03 |
| veskuh | vgrade: ok, maybe then compositor eats the performance. | 09:03 |
| djszapi | X-Fade ok then it is not going to work because we might need CE:MW:KDE and CE:MW:Shared too. | 09:03 |
| Sage_ | djszapi: it probably is and I think you could use the same repos with PA team. | 09:03 |
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| X-Fade | Sage_: We could create an aggregate repository where we publish all packages to? | 09:04 |
| Sage_ | X-Fade: can you ellaborate a bit more about that | 09:04 |
| djszapi | Sage_: we do that with debian and harmattan for instance (aggregation). | 09:05 |
| X-Fade | Sage_: All the building etc happens in separate projects, but make one project where every package gets published to? | 09:05 |
| Sage_ | X-Fade: ah, well that sounds ok. Can we make it so that aggregate project can't be used as build target? :) | 09:06 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: is it possible to publish to the aggregated and the "normal" one, too ? | 09:06 |
| * Sage_ is affraid that someone decides to use that as target and everything becomes a mess | 09:06 | |
| X-Fade | Sage_: I guess useforbuild can be off :) | 09:06 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: because it would be nice to keep the PA repo for the plasma team as their only source. | 09:08 |
| djszapi | and the would not be forced for an aggregated one. | 09:09 |
| djszapi | but from our pov, it would be nice to get that to the aggregated one too | 09:09 |
| djszapi | so it would be beneficial to get it published to both repositories. | 09:09 |
| X-Fade | I guess we can do that with a special prjconf? | 09:09 |
| djszapi | would be awesome :) | 09:10 |
| djszapi | because we can share the work among the plasma team and nemo kde app developers. | 09:10 |
| X-Fade | Trying to remember where we have an example of that. | 09:10 |
| X-Fade | maybe lbt knows :) | 09:12 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: need to reduce the opened windows, but I will stay on #harmattan if there is any progress in that respect. | 09:17 |
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| Stskeeps | morn xruxa o/ | 09:20 |
| xruxa | morning guys | 09:20 |
| w00t | xruxa: hey | 09:21 |
| w00t | xruxa: qmlcontacts.. did you get around to merging your changes in / what needed doing there? | 09:21 |
| Sage_ | hmmp.. should we include this to some tool repo https://launchpad.net/glmark2 ? | 09:21 |
| xruxa | w00t: I have pushed up what little I had | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: glmark or gles? | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 09:22 |
| * lbt looks at X-Fade | 09:22 | |
| xruxa | w00t: some small adds/changes in seaside would be nice to finish it up | 09:22 |
| X-Fade | lbt: have some coffee first :) | 09:22 |
| w00t | xruxa: oh, so you did, hah | 09:22 |
| lbt | X-Fade: am I going to need it :) | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: btw, we upgraded meegotouch-theme (not theme-graphics) and so far not seeing red squares, according to veskuh | 09:22 |
| X-Fade | lbt: uhu :) | 09:22 |
| w00t | I'm going to set out to get back on that a bit today at some point, so | 09:22 |
| xruxa | w00t: avatar saving and I made (local) hack to return "undefined" instead of a path to placeholder graphics | 09:22 |
| w00t | xruxa: local hack to seaside? mind showing me? | 09:23 |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: good to hear - does Contro panel now look nicer? | 09:23 |
| xruxa | w00t: http://pastie.org/3379512 - I'm convinced there is better way than to return a string anyway ;) | 09:24 |
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| xruxa | w00t: what I thought was that the lib should not care about the UI - the UI should know how to visualize undefined avatar | 09:25 |
| w00t | mmm | 09:25 |
| w00t | I rather deliberately did that, so each application didn't need to try do it differently | 09:25 |
| xruxa | w00t: that is another way to look at it | 09:26 |
| w00t | (I've seen pretty horrific examples of how that ended up) | 09:26 |
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| w00t | so that, for instance, if we wanted to do some live generation of an avatar - or whatever - that could just be poked in libseaside and just work everywhere | 09:26 |
| xruxa | w00t: anyway, the stuff I pushed works with this local hack better | 09:26 |
| matrixx | should I be able to make phone calls with nemo on n950? | 09:28 |
| matrixx | when I try to call it says modem is down :( | 09:28 |
| veskuh | matrixx: should work, but there is issue that sometimes the modem does start in bootup. | 09:30 |
| veskuh | matrixx: probably same root cause as this bug has: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5 | 09:31 |
| matrixx | veskuh: yeah, now that you said, I don't really remember inserting my pin when booting up :D | 09:33 |
| matrixx | nor seeing the pin query | 09:33 |
| matrixx | I'll try reboot | 09:34 |
| veskuh | matrixx: you can start pinquery from command line, you may need to do it couple of times | 09:34 |
| matrixx | ok | 09:34 |
| veskuh | and if there is no pinquery in startup and you do it manually, you will need to kill the prestarted dialer otherwise you will not be able to answer calls | 09:35 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4344 Accepted promotion request | 09:35 |
| matrixx | oh right | 09:36 |
| jukkaeklund | removing pin query from sim helps too :) | 09:36 |
| * jukkaeklund doesn't have a regular size SIM, Sonera prkl.. | 09:37 | |
| veskuh | well, I do not think the root cause is pinquery, it is the modem not starting properly | 09:37 |
| lbt | X-Fade: sounds to me like we need to do an OS-side cp -a | 09:37 |
| lbt | useforbuild doesn't do what you think | 09:37 |
| lbt | it's like removing "." from PATH | 09:38 |
| lbt | mmm : setting it to "off" is like removing "." from PATH | 09:38 |
| jukkaeklund | lbt, how do I reset my password at merproject.org? | 09:38 |
| lbt | jukkaeklund: at the bz (I hope) | 09:39 |
| lbt | yes, there's a "forgot passwd" link in the top line | 09:40 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Can't we create a project which builds against all sub projects of MW? | 09:41 |
| jukkaeklund | lbt, ah you're right, it didn't work in nemomobile.org.. | 09:41 |
| lbt | X-Fade: yes | 09:41 |
| lbt | jukkaeklund: no, and we need some work on the bz/web templates | 09:42 |
| lbt | X-Fade: what would go in it? | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | you can have multiple <path>? | 09:42 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Basically what we want is one repo with apps that can depend on anything in MW, I guess? | 09:43 |
| X-Fade | lbt: So we only have to have one repository enabled on device too? | 09:43 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: gles test yes | 09:46 |
| Sage_ | X-Fade: hello | 09:46 |
| lbt | X-Fade: I think we need to split user-experience from development | 09:47 |
| Sage_ | err.. xruxa hello :) | 09:47 |
| lbt | it feels like we're back to Surrounds | 09:47 |
| X-Fade | lbt: yeah well we are :) | 09:47 |
| lbt | ie "hey, we're both building this lib... lets share effort" | 09:47 |
| X-Fade | What we can do is have CE:APPS:<UX> | 09:48 |
| xruxa | Sage_: yes? | 09:48 |
| Sage_ | xruxa: just wanted to say hi ;) | 09:48 |
| lbt | X-Fade: I think we may want to do that outside OBS | 09:48 |
| X-Fade | And have that <UX> build against the projects that are available for that UX. | 09:48 |
| lbt | ignore that last line from me | 09:49 |
| lbt | yes, as Stskeeps says, this is the multiple <path> use case | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: https://build.meego.com/package/show?package=utfs&project=Tools%3ASDK%3ATarget btw | 09:50 |
| X-Fade | Sage_: Mind if I add some screenshots to some packages in CE:Apps? jukkaeklund gave me a few. | 09:50 |
| Sage_ | X-Fade: go ahead, just remember to add thsoe in .spec as well ;) | 09:51 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: wassat ? a pull request for Mer:Tools or a multi-path/target example for X-Fade? | 09:51 |
| X-Fade | Sage_: Meh :( | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: not related to the context, NFS/SSHFS | 09:51 |
| lbt | OK | 09:52 |
| lbt | X-Fade: needs some thought | 09:56 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Yeah, maybe we should setup a POC project somewhere to play with it? | 09:57 |
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| lbt | yeah - outline what needs to be done too | 09:57 |
| lbt | I could this with technically cooperative but commercially discrete projects too | 09:58 |
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| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Nemo mobile steering group meeting in 27 minutes in #mer-meeting | 10:33 |
| jukkaeklund | veskuh, Helium has no bugs in bz :) | 10:35 |
| veskuh | jukkaeklund: I think there is one. | 10:35 |
| w00t | veskuh: speaking of helium, do you want a heliumreborn repo under github.com/nemomobile? | 10:36 |
| jukkaeklund | veskuh, you're right and now there is 2 | 10:37 |
| veskuh | w00t: yes, I think we could push it there. It was supposed to be temporary solution to have fork of helium but since upstream does not seem to be moving maybe its time.. | 10:38 |
| * w00t sets one up | 10:39 | |
| anYc | will there be logs of the meeting? | 10:39 |
| w00t | veskuh: what do you want it called? | 10:39 |
| veskuh | w00t: heliumreborn | 10:39 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: why just one additional repository support for the apps4meego stuff ? | 10:40 |
| w00t | veskuh: https://github.com/nemomobile/heliumreborn | 10:40 |
| veskuh | w00t: Can you add access rights to me and I'll push the repo? | 10:42 |
| w00t | veskuh: hmm, you should have them | 10:42 |
| w00t | i'll check | 10:42 |
| w00t | oh, heh, you're not there | 10:42 |
| w00t | what's your github user? | 10:43 |
| veskuh | veskuh | 10:43 |
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| w00t | added | 10:43 |
| veskuh | thanks | 10:43 |
| w00t | you also have rights to add other repos etc as needed | 10:43 |
| jukkaeklund | Sage_, should music shelf play MP3 file in N950? | 10:44 |
| veskuh | jukkaeklund: No, just ogg | 10:45 |
| jukkaeklund | right | 10:45 |
| jukkaeklund | well its logical.. | 10:45 |
| X-Fade | Needs mp3 codec. | 10:45 |
| jukkaeklund | which is not free | 10:46 |
| X-Fade | Depends on your definition of free, but yes. | 10:46 |
| jukkaeklund | would be nice to have some .ogg files in the release then.. | 10:46 |
| jukkaeklund | open source music :) | 10:46 |
| X-Fade | There is enough of that. | 10:46 |
| veskuh | jukkaeklund: there is already bug about that :) | 10:46 |
| veskuh | jukkaeklund: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57 | 10:47 |
| jukkaeklund | good, and video I guess also | 10:47 |
| mikhas | veskuh, can you test a patch for me? | 10:51 |
| mikhas | I dont have a recent Nemo installation. | 10:51 |
| veskuh | mikhas: Sure, I can do that. | 10:52 |
| mikhas | veskuh, https://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-framework/merge_requests/150 | 10:52 |
| mikhas | might just fix https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104 | 10:53 |
| mikhas | *if* we are lucky. | 10:53 |
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| veskuh | mikhas: ok, I'll try that. | 10:54 |
| mikhas | thanks | 10:54 |
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| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Nemo mobile steering group meeting NOW in #mer-meeting | 11:00 |
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| Sage_ | jukkaeklund: :nod: as w00t said | 11:03 |
| w00t | hm? | 11:04 |
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| Sage_ | err... as veskuh said :) | 11:04 |
| * Sage_ has monday feeling on tuesday is that bad? | 11:04 | |
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| w00t | I know the feeling | 11:04 |
| w00t | faenil: have you had time to push any gallery stuff? | 11:05 |
| jukkaeklund | sage_, sorry what w00t said? | 11:05 |
| * w00t has a new 4.8 built, and qt components, on his laptop | 11:05 | |
| Sage_ | jukkaeklund: nm ;) | 11:05 |
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| faenil | w00t: not yet :( I was looking for info about how to write the yaml yesterday, and veskuh tried to help me :) Now I'm writing slides for the thesis, I think I'll push a v0.0.0.1 in the afternoon, if you're online and can support me in the iter because I have never worked with OBS, and want to learn :D | 11:13 |
| w00t | faenil: i'm sure people can try help | 11:14 |
| w00t | faenil: can you do a push to git? would be nice to poke around it too | 11:14 |
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| faenil | yes, but not atm :( is that needed now? | 11:15 |
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| w00t | well not necessarily right this instant, but i'd like to have a look around, see what we're missing etc :) | 11:16 |
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| w00t | plus it's easier to help your efforts if it's obvious what needs to be done | 11:16 |
| w00t | \ can be seen | 11:16 |
| w00t | xruxa: can I easily install a theme for QML components on desktop nowdays? | 11:20 |
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| xruxa | w00t: do not think so, last time I checked the theme location was hardcoded in components to blanco | 11:20 |
| w00t | xruxa: no, I mean, that's fine | 11:21 |
| w00t | I just want to run my apps on desktop | 11:21 |
| w00t | I hand-installed from my N9 last time, do I need to do that again, or can I e.g. make install darko? | 11:21 |
| xruxa | w00t: that should work | 11:21 |
| xruxa | didn't test though ... | 11:21 |
| * w00t hunts for darko's git | 11:21 | |
| w00t | (do you want a repo on nemomobile's github for that?) | 11:22 |
| xruxa | https://github.com/jpavelek/meego-handset-theme-darko | 11:22 |
| w00t | thanks | 11:22 |
| xruxa | true, we could move it to nemomobile under meegotouch-theme-darko or such | 11:22 |
| w00t | I'll add the repo :) | 11:23 |
| w00t | niqt: just saw you pushed to calendar btw, awesome stuff :) | 11:24 |
| w00t | xruxa: https://github.com/nemomobile/meegotouch-theme-darko | 11:24 |
| w00t | ah, hmmph, darko has no makefile | 11:24 |
| w00t | guess I'll just copy them to the right place | 11:24 |
| xruxa | yep, just copy the meegotouch dir to /usr/share/themes/blanco/ | 11:25 |
| w00t | ;2~;2~what about the blanco dir? | 11:25 |
| xruxa | it is hardcoded in components to go for blanco | 11:27 |
| w00t | not quite what I mean | 11:27 |
| Sage_ | would be nice if makefile would be added and the cp cmds removed from .spec file | 11:27 |
| xruxa | iirc someone on Maemo5 patched it already | 11:27 |
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| w00t | virgin:~/code/meego/meego-handset-theme-darko% ls (W07 - 02/14@12:27:18 CET) | 11:27 |
| w00t | blanco .git index.theme LICENSE meegotouch README resources | 11:27 |
| w00t | I have blanco, meegotouch, and resources dirs here | 11:27 |
| xruxa | w00t: wait a sec | 11:27 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=meegotouch-theme-darko.spec&package=meegotouch-theme-darko&project=home%3Ajakub%3Abranches%3ACE%3AUX%3AMTF&srcmd5=fe5e9709f383e88225307e16f2a8f639 | 11:28 |
| xruxa | w00t: meegotouch goes to darko, blanco goes to blanco, resources go nowhere | 11:28 |
| Sage_ | :) | 11:28 |
| xruxa | and index.theme goes to darko too | 11:29 |
| w00t | that's better | 11:29 |
| niqt | w00t: on github qmlcalendar is old... i commmit last version tonight | 11:29 |
| w00t | niqt: push all the time ;-) | 11:29 |
| w00t | but cool :D i'll have to give it a try sometime | 11:30 |
| w00t | xruxa: your editor is so beautiful *tear* :) | 11:30 |
| xruxa | took me 5 seconds to understand that you talk qmlcontacts, are you? | 11:30 |
| w00t | yes | 11:30 |
| w00t | so... you needed a way to get contexts of numbers, right? | 11:31 |
| xruxa | w00t: not really, I like it this way - simple | 11:31 |
| w00t | hm | 11:31 |
| w00t | so what was the libseaside change you needed? | 11:31 |
| xruxa | w00t: I'd like to finish the avatar bit - needs set/get avatar in seaside | 11:31 |
| w00t | `ok | 11:32 |
| faenil | w00t: ^ | 11:32 |
| w00t | just a path, right? | 11:32 |
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| w00t | faenil: ? | 11:32 |
| xruxa | DOOM | 11:32 |
| w00t | :( | 11:32 |
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| w00t | faenil: what were you saying? I think I missed it | 11:36 |
| faenil | I said I can't atm, is it ok if I do it before evening? | 11:38 |
| w00t | faenil: sure | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: out of curiousity, what app packaging format would you have been interested in? | 11:40 |
| faenil | w00t: ok, I'm sorry for all this delay for such little code, I hope I'm being helpful, and I'm not wasting your (guys) time instead ;) | 11:40 |
| w00t | faenil: you're fine | 11:41 |
| faenil | w00t: ok :) | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: i wouldn't mind being able to add .deb packages easily | 11:41 |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: I spend more time packaging and OBS-ing than developing ;) | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: ah | 11:42 |
| w00t | xruxa: | 11:42 |
| w00t | virgin:~/code/meego/libseaside% git ci (W07 - 02/14@12:41:36 CET) | 11:42 |
| w00t | [no-mtf abc7587] Enable load/save of avatar paths. | 11:42 |
| xruxa | not that it is hard, it just takes time, and I hate to do it twice (deb for N9, rpm) | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: we're been working on a platform sdk to make it less crap :) | 11:42 |
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| xruxa | Stskeeps: I didn't say it is crap, I just do not like doing things twice :) | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: yeah, understood | 11:43 |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: and with Tizen (maybe) and Ubuntu Mobile going deb ... that is why I asked | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: still, it's worse than it could be | 11:43 |
| w00t | xruxa: avatar save sheet doesn't really work, because when the editor is opened, it calls newPerson, that person is never saved, and then it tries to fetch row 0 in the model which doesn't exist, but I guess you'll see that with that commit hopefully | 11:44 |
| xruxa | w00t: that was fast | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: heard anything more about ubuntu mobile btw? i've just heard loose rumours | 11:44 |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: same ... and was wondering what kind of 'magic' they plan to unleash with Unity on a mobile (keyboardless) phone or tablet | 11:44 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: what i would really love to see is a commonality qt5 format for qml apps, but that might be a pipe dream.. | 11:45 |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: just finished porting QML (pure) app from N9 to N900 with Maemo5 and then to Symbian and Android and tired of all those little details that ruin it all | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: +1 | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | i wonder if we can do a loose translation of yaml that creates different type of packaging | 11:47 |
| w00t | I'm really not happy with SeasidePerson | 11:47 |
| lbt | xruxa: can you describe what details | 11:47 |
| xruxa | Great effort I must say on Qt's part, but good they pulled that "deploy everywhere" banner ;) | 11:47 |
| w00t | it's all way too clumsy | 11:47 |
| marquiz | faenil: yep, now i am :/ | 11:47 |
| faenil | wonderful :D | 11:47 |
| marquiz | faenil: which device you have? | 11:47 |
| faenil | N950 | 11:48 |
| marquiz | k | 11:48 |
| xruxa | lbt: like click does not work on Android in 50% of case, sound does not play on N900 or Android, plays on Symbian, but only on FULL VOLUME and withoug mixer, etc. | 11:48 |
| faenil | I flash dualbooter, flash modded moslo, and I get Repartitioning failed | 11:48 |
| lbt | xruxa: OK - thanks, I get the picture. | 11:48 |
| faenil | and after that, even if I unplug usb, harmattan doesn't start, Nokia's log appears but after 1 minute the screen turns black | 11:48 |
| faenil | about this black screen thing, same happens to matrixx | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: version information of harmattan would be useful | 11:49 |
| faenil | who had it repartitioned by your tool, and he's able to boot into Nemo, but harmattan is not booting anymore | 11:49 |
| faenil | PR1.2 | 11:49 |
| faenil | N950, latest fw | 11:49 |
| faenil | sorry | 11:49 |
| faenil | same matrixx, who did not have problems with the automatic repartitioning (but still, can't get it to boot into harmattan) | 11:50 |
| marquiz | faenil: hmm, I have to look into this when i get to my n950 | 11:51 |
| faenil | ok ,thanks! | 11:51 |
| marquiz | ah, but hey, you needn't flash dualbooter at all | 11:51 |
| faenil | ps: removing the dualbooter with the empty.img thing, takes me back to harmattan | 11:51 |
| marquiz | (i really have to edit documentation in my wiki page!) | 11:52 |
| faenil | ok I know what you're about to say, modded moslo is all it's needed, right? | 11:52 |
| marquiz | yep ;) | 11:52 |
| faenil | eh :) | 11:52 |
| faenil | I should have thought about it | 11:53 |
| faenil | I just went through all the steps to be sure, and did not think about what I was doing :) | 11:53 |
| marquiz | well, my wiki page really sucks | 11:53 |
| marquiz | sorry about that | 11:53 |
| faenil | well yeah it could be better :D | 11:53 |
| faenil | matrixx was about to follow the "remove" step just after flashing dualbooter :D | 11:53 |
| marquiz | :D | 11:53 |
| faenil | ok then let's try again :D realtime | 11:54 |
| marquiz | i gotta start contributing to the dual-booting, again | 11:54 |
| marquiz | i got a bit distracted in the end of december, or so | 11:54 |
| marquiz | anyway, i have to continue with n9 | 11:55 |
| faenil | np :) your effort is appreciated :) | 11:55 |
| faenil | drunkdebugger already has dualbooting working on N9 | 11:55 |
| faenil | and icecream WITH 3D hw acc too, since last night :D | 11:55 |
| marquiz | woo, cool!!! | 11:55 |
| Sage_ | lbt, veskuh: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Creating_Releases | 11:56 |
| lbt | :) | 11:56 |
| Sage_ | just matter of writing it down ;) | 11:56 |
| veskuh | Sage_: Nice | 11:57 |
| faenil | just flashed modded moslo, and it went straight to Nokia's logo after the disclaimer | 11:57 |
| Sage_ | the upload part is a bit tricky as it requires ssh keys etc. thus not part of that | 11:57 |
| faenil | marquiz: is that normal? XD | 11:58 |
| marquiz | faenil: hmm, it should show the green moslo text | 11:59 |
| matrixx | faenil: ah ok, the dualbooter step was not needed? | 11:59 |
| marquiz | matrixx: yep :/ | 11:59 |
| matrixx | ok | 11:59 |
| marquiz | the dualbooter was just my initial experiments... | 11:59 |
| faenil | I have just fllashed the modded moslo, I get the disclaimer, but no green text | 11:59 |
| matrixx | maybe I'll try again later with the modified moslo only | 12:00 |
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| matrixx | I'm now fine, I have nemo, that's what I wanted :) | 12:00 |
| matrixx | dual boot would be just extra bonus | 12:00 |
| faenil | ok ok nothing my mistake | 12:00 |
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| marquiz | faenil: hmm, sounds strange... | 12:01 |
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| faenil | marquiz: my mistake...doing again ;) | 12:01 |
| marquiz | ah | 12:02 |
| matrixx | faenil: oh :D | 12:02 |
| faenil | repartitioning faile | 12:02 |
| faenil | ... | 12:02 |
| faenil | you can telnet into bla bla bla | 12:02 |
| * veskuh feels like monday, cant even checkout repo from gitorious | 12:03 | |
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| faenil | booting into harmattan, and after one min screen turns off | 12:03 |
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| matrixx | that's the same what happens to me | 12:04 |
| faenil | yeah but you could load Nemo at least | 12:04 |
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| matrixx | faenil: yeah, just listening if you get that black screen sorted out, maybe I can use same trick :) | 12:09 |
| faenil | it seems like marquiz has vanquished away though :D | 12:10 |
| matrixx | heh | 12:11 |
| marquiz | faenil: nope, was just on phone... | 12:15 |
| faenil | marquiz: ok np :) | 12:16 |
| marquiz | faenil: that black screen sounds very strange... | 12:16 |
| faenil | marquiz: we see nokia's log, but it never gets to the "pulse" animation | 12:16 |
| faenil | it's static | 12:16 |
| marquiz | hmm, ok | 12:16 |
| faenil | and before pulsing ,the phone switches off | 12:16 |
| faenil | (or just the screen, but I guess the phone) | 12:17 |
| marquiz | ok, that must be the watchdog | 12:17 |
| faenil | we could ask djszapi, he's worked on the security framework | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | faenil: N950? | 12:18 |
| faenil | yes | 12:18 |
| marquiz | i think i need to check that home, update to latest harmattan and try out myself | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like it needs a jig | 12:18 |
| faenil | :) | 12:18 |
| faenil | what about the repartitioning failed thing? any idea? | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | BTW, i'm receiving tomorrow a pristine N900 from the meego coding competition, which i'll be safekeeping for when key developers in Nemo ends up with a broken N900 usb port or the likes, and i'll ship it out to them | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | they donated it to our efforts, so | 12:18 |
| marquiz | : | 12:18 |
| faenil | :nod: | 12:19 |
| marquiz | faenil, it might be because that messed up something when you installed dualbooter+moslo | 12:19 |
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| faenil | could be, but matrixx did the same :D | 12:19 |
| marquiz | faenil: you can telnet to moslo and take a look at logs | 12:19 |
| matrixx | yeah, my repartition was a success | 12:19 |
| marquiz | matrixx: ah, ok | 12:20 |
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| marquiz | anyway, this black screen/watchdog reset sounds very strange | 12:20 |
| marquiz | as if they've changed something in nolo | 12:21 |
| faenil | open 192.168.2.15 reports network unreachable | 12:21 |
| marquiz | what does 'ifconfig usb0' say? | 12:21 |
| faenil | no bytes received | 12:22 |
| faenil | only sent | 12:22 |
| faenil | (ifconfig usb0 from notebook) | 12:22 |
| marquiz | what is the address? | 12:22 |
| marquiz | ip address | 12:22 |
| faenil | there's no ip | 12:23 |
| faenil | ubuntu keeps trying to connect but it doesn't manage to | 12:23 |
| marquiz | try ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.14 up | 12:23 |
| marquiz | ah, or set static ip in network manager | 12:23 |
| marquiz | there's no dhcp server in moslo :D | 12:23 |
| faenil | ehehe :D | 12:23 |
| faenil | ok 14 | 12:23 |
| faenil | network unreachable | 12:24 |
| faenil | it has reset ip | 12:25 |
| faenil | ..-.- | 12:25 |
| marquiz | faenil: you need to set it statically/manually in network manager, then | 12:26 |
| marquiz | right click the networking icon, setup... | 12:26 |
| faenil | yeah I know | 12:27 |
| marquiz | k | 12:27 |
| faenil | but it's not poppin up :D | 12:27 |
| faenil | must be a bug, I'm getting updates :) | 12:27 |
| faenil | I'm on ubuntu alpha2 | 12:28 |
| faenil | are you online in 2 hours? | 12:29 |
| marquiz | faenil: gotta leave in about 2 hours, today :( | 12:31 |
| marquiz | faenil: you can try | 12:31 |
| faenil | okay I'll be back in 1 hopefully :D | 12:31 |
| marquiz | faenil: one more thing: did you use moslo or moslo-n9? | 12:32 |
| marquiz | matrixx: same question, moslo or moslo-n9? | 12:33 |
| faenil | we both used moslo | 12:33 |
| marquiz | k | 12:33 |
| faenil | time to go to the canteen | 12:34 |
| faenil | cya later | 12:35 |
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| Sage_ | veskuh: about https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19 what does that mean? | 12:51 |
| Sage_ | veskuh: at least with the new theme and stuff I get xterm decorations and on full screen etc. | 12:51 |
| Sage_ | I would say WORKSFORME, can you confirm? | 12:52 |
| veskuh | Sage_: yes, now I'd say its worksforme | 12:52 |
| Sage_ | :nod: marked as resolved-worksforme | 12:53 |
| * Sage_ ponders about bug 20 | 13:05 | |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: I think we need to drop defaults.list and totem-defaults.list from http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/shared-mime-info.git;a=tree | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | no objetions | 13:11 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: first is related closely to meego applications and second to totem application which neither one is in Mer | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:11 |
| Sage_ | not sure though how that file should be generated | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | make it empty? | 13:12 |
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| Sage_ | veskuh: did you have test case for https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20 ? | 13:23 |
| veskuh | Sage_: Hmm.. I dont even remember filing that. Probably somebody else noted the issue and I just filed the bug to bugzilla. | 13:24 |
| Sage_ | :P | 13:24 |
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| Sage_ | anyone know any other apps to check mime info for file than gnomevfs-info? | 13:39 |
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| veskuh | Hmm.. Would be nice to see this on Nemo: http://isis-project.org/ | 14:17 |
| veskuh | IMHO the log is pretty bad | 14:18 |
| veskuh | s/log/logo/ | 14:18 |
| Stskeeps | oh wow | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | maybe the webos guys are actually serious | 14:19 |
| * Stskeeps bookmarks | 14:20 | |
| veskuh | Yep, there is many ex-meego guys in WebOS and especially on the browser team. | 14:20 |
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| Sage_ | hmmp... that could be nice thing to try | 14:30 |
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| faenil | marquiz: back :D | 14:38 |
| niqt | basyskom create mer based image, but peregrine for nemmo? | 14:44 |
| veskuh | Nemo roadmap, draft 1: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Roadmap | 14:45 |
| lbt | From our hosting at Hetzner: Unfortunately, there have been issues with the core switches. Our technicians are working hard to resolve the situation | 14:46 |
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| Sage_ | veskuh: http://pastie.org/3381237 ok so the problem still exists :) | 14:57 |
| Sage_ | after that lynx opens | 14:58 |
| veskuh | Sage_: Yep, good to know. I need to figure out what I need to do for helium to get it support xdg-open | 14:59 |
| veskuh | Sage_: I guess other part is to see if something needs to be configured in xdg-open side of things | 14:59 |
| Sage_ | I'm checking that atm. | 15:00 |
| Sage_ | noted that our shared-mime-info is wrong at least | 15:00 |
| Sage_ | points to lot of useless stuff that we don't have | 15:00 |
| veskuh | Anyway, this would be nice to get working, so that clicking links in browser, twitter, etc. would work | 15:01 |
| Sage_ | :nod: | 15:04 |
| Sage_ | it has something to do with /usr/share/applications/defaults.list I would say and the application .desktop file probably needs MimeType= as well | 15:05 |
| veskuh | Then the URL would come as command line parameter probably | 15:06 |
| Sage_ | I would think so yes | 15:07 |
| veskuh | Hmm.. Yep this looks like good link: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xdg-open | 15:07 |
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| Sage_ | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/xdg-utils.git;a=blob;f=meego_browsers.patch;h=ddff4c635cf3a0a3078d36271bf07ac8573e50ac;hb=HEAD uh | 15:09 |
| Sage_ | \o/ | 15:13 |
| Sage_ | export BROWSER=heliumreborn :) | 15:13 |
| Sage_ | so we need to set env variable for that to get it working | 15:14 |
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| Sage_ | hmmp | 16:34 |
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| Sage_ | ok, so what all tricks I need to get core dumps to filesystem. I have ulimit -c saying unlimited already and after crashing application I see Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 16:57 |
| Sage_ | what else is there? | 16:58 |
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| Stskeeps | sysctl core pattern? | 17:07 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: when you do figure it out, put on mer wiki, quite useful to know :) | 17:48 |
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| faenil | w00t: ping | 22:47 |
| w00t | faenil: too late, sorry, I'm off to sleep.. work in the morning | 22:49 |
| faenil | ok np ;) | 22:50 |
| faenil | I'm just back home | 22:50 |
| faenil | w00t: gn ;) we'll talk tomorrow if you have time ;) | 22:51 |
| faenil | marquiz: ping, did you discover anything? | 22:54 |
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