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| Sage_ | morning | 06:02 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:02 |
| djszapi | hey | 06:02 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3385727 <- did this and didn't help anything else? | 06:04 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: hmm | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | and rebooted? | 06:05 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: yes | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | sure it gets manifested in 'sysctl -a'? | 06:06 |
| Stskeeps | and ulimit -c shows correctly | 06:07 |
| Sage_ | yes ulimit -c shows unlimited | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 06:08 |
| Sage_ | oh, crap the pattern doesn't | 06:08 |
| Sage_ | pid does :) | 06:08 |
| Sage_ | hmmp | 06:10 |
| Stskeeps | would be nice if we can somehow make this into a package or flaggable option | 06:15 |
| * Sage_ ponders why values from core.conf under /etc/sysctl.d/ isn't read | 06:20 | |
| Sage_ | I can enabled with the same lines with sysctl -w key=value | 06:21 |
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| Stskeeps | should really be evaluated | 07:14 |
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| Sage_ | was there a cmd that can be used to refresh the styles without rebooting or restarting stuff? | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | styles? themes? | 07:19 |
| Sage_ | themes yes | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | i think there was a widgets gallery thing | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | to switch | 07:21 |
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| w00t | honestly, i'd be surprised if it worked | 07:29 |
| w00t | since harmattan doesn't have functionality to change themes, that sort of stuff kind of fell by the wayside | 07:29 |
| Sage_ | ok, well reboot on x86 isn't so much pain | 07:30 |
| Sage_ | Is there tool that could point what themes are applied to specific component? There is the Information display in widgetsgallery that can show the names of components. | 07:31 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:41 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: would we be able to do nemo for i586, llvmpipe version, and i586, intel drivers? | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | as in images | 08:11 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: sure if the mesa just is packaged properly that they can be easily distinguished | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:20 |
| Sage_ | http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/tmp/20120215-101759.png <- So what is the name of area around the launcher buttons? | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | btw, mesa 8.0 is out too | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | quick launcher? | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | quicklaunchbaroverlay | 08:21 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: we might need to do like mesa-llvmpipe that provides mesa etc. and same for mesa-gles-* | 08:23 |
| Sage_ | so that we can do similar in x86 adaptation mesa-intel provides mesa | 08:23 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | default mesa in mer is llvmpipe | 08:24 |
| Sage_ | yes | 08:24 |
| Sage_ | just need to make sure vendor can override it even with older version by forcing the name. | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's what tomorrow is for ;) | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | trying to prep so we can | 08:25 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: about the theme. the thing is that the center box that is around the buttons and extends a lot from the right side doesn't seem to have any id | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 08:34 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: the quicklaunchbaroverlay is the whole thing and there is one more box inside it around the buttons which is in center but the buttons inside that isn't | 08:35 |
| Sage_ | or at least so it seems to me | 08:35 |
| veskuh | Sage_: right, yes the area seems greener, so there is something | 08:36 |
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| Sage_ | veskuh: yes, but what is that thing :) | 08:37 |
| veskuh | Sage_: Perhaps because of missing icon it calculates the width for the area incorrectly | 08:38 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... good point | 08:38 |
| * Sage_ adds an icon | 08:38 | |
| Sage_ | actually it seems that the area doesn't extend over the other buttons | 08:40 |
| * veskuh Cant access gitorious or github again. Frustrated. | 08:40 | |
| Sage_ | \o/ after adding icon it is ok | 08:41 |
| w00t | veskuh: why? | 08:41 |
| veskuh | w00t: the ssh proxy through firewall does not seem to be working. | 08:42 |
| w00t | ah, glorious | 08:42 |
| w00t | i remember that fun all too well | 08:42 |
| veskuh | gotta love corporate IT | 08:42 |
| * Sage_ ponders if we could add meego-handset-camera app to x86 as well | 08:44 | |
| Sage_ | Problem: nothing provides gst-plugins-camera needed by meego-handset-camera-1.0.7-4.1.Nemo.Apps.i586 | 08:44 |
| w00t | qtmobility has patches to add moorestown camera support at least, afair | 08:44 |
| Sage_ | ok, so we are missing gst-plugins-camera | 08:45 |
| dcthang | pls rememeber meego-handset-camera is having a bug with video recording | 08:48 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage_: how did you get rid of "boot to tizen"?? | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | er, ? | 08:57 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: /etc/mic/mic.conf | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:00 |
| Sage_ | 2 values needs changing | 09:00 |
| Sage_ | name_prefix = nemo | 09:00 |
| Sage_ | distro_name = Nemo Mobile | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:01 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: you might be interested of https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/image-configurations/commit/580f63ded57634ea0f1a4d75e4dd4c6810fdd84e as well | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:01 |
| Sage_ | the extra entires can be done like that | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | just validating the llvm+mesa 8.0 llvmpipe thing atm | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | so far so good | 09:02 |
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| w00t | hahahaha | 09:17 |
| w00t | Sage_: you might appreciate this irony | 09:17 |
| w00t | i'm currently trying to change date/time in harmattan | 09:17 |
| w00t | and... the done button is disabled | 09:17 |
| Sage_ | w00t: :D | 09:19 |
| Sage_ | w00t: for some reason I'm happy :) | 09:20 |
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| Sage_ | w00t: btw, what version of harmattan if I may ask? | 09:20 |
| w00t | 1.2 | 09:20 |
| jukkaeklund | w00t, err, you just do the changes and hit back arrow | 09:21 |
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| w00t | jukkaeklund: no, this is newly flashed | 09:23 |
| w00t | I have a sheet with cancel / save | 09:23 |
| jukkaeklund | right.. you change the date/time and save becomes active | 09:24 |
| w00t | yeah, that's what i'd presume | 09:24 |
| w00t | but it isn't happening | 09:24 |
| w00t | I just changed it after it booted in anyway :) | 09:25 |
| jukkaeklund | ok, what is the exact build number | 09:25 |
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| * Sage_ just broke his nemo installation on exopc by installing new kernel | 09:25 | |
| Sage_ | timoph: you tested the kernel as well? | 09:25 |
| jukkaeklund | w00t, 30.2012... | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | if anyone wants to try our latest build on VMware/VirtualBox/whatever VM, http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/nemo-handset-i586-0.20120120.1.NEMO.2012-02-09.1.iso | 09:26 |
| w00t | 3.2012.02-6, latest 1.2 OCF | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | ignore the "Boot Tizen" | 09:26 |
| w00t | I'll try reproduce it again later, I have to start work now, sadly | 09:27 |
| jukkaeklund | w00t, ok its not anything final 1.2 then | 09:27 |
| jukkaeklund | w00t, sorry you have N950 of course it is :) | 09:28 |
| jukkaeklund | so when can we run Isis browser on Nemo? :p | 09:29 |
| w00t | that would be complicated | 09:29 |
| jukkaeklund | why? | 09:29 |
| w00t | they seem to have an awful lot of custom stuff involved.. even a custom Qt build (and they don't list what their patches are seperately... I need to do a diff at some point) | 09:30 |
| jukkaeklund | ok.. so Qt 4.8 and QtWebkit but its not simple as that.. | 09:30 |
| w00t | patched qtwebkit too (probably heavily) | 09:31 |
| w00t | but i'd expect that | 09:31 |
| w00t | i think grob on the n9 also has a seperate qtwebkit | 09:31 |
| jukkaeklund | I think grob has a really old qtwebkit.. | 09:32 |
| jukkaeklund | btw, date/time works on my N950 | 09:32 |
| w00t | probably, I mean, they'd have started productizing a long long time ago :p | 09:33 |
| w00t | and yeah | 09:33 |
| w00t | I've not seen it before | 09:33 |
| w00t | so I'm thinking fluke | 09:33 |
| w00t | I still found it funny given our problems with that :) | 09:33 |
| timoph | Sage_: not yet | 09:35 |
| Sage_ | timoph: don't try it is broken :) | 09:35 |
| timoph | :) | 09:35 |
| * Sage_ ponders what script is supposed to update /boot/syslinux/extlinux.conf | 09:35 | |
| Sage_ | err.. /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf | 09:36 |
| jukkaeklund | I have Nemo running with vmware :) | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | how fast is it for you? | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | and yes, there's problems when you use qml apps as an example, due to compositor | 09:37 |
| jukkaeklund | its really fast | 09:37 |
| jukkaeklund | cant get wireless device working from Nemo | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's within a VM so you probably need to add NAT network interface | 09:39 |
| jukkaeklund | thats what I have | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | so it should be online | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | as if it was ethernet | 09:40 |
| jukkaeklund | of course it is :) | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | jukkaeklund: so, if the compositor problem was fixed, usable for off-the-street UI developers you think? | 09:43 |
| jukkaeklund | worked right away with basic default settings for vmware | 09:43 |
| jukkaeklund | hold on, let me play few more minutes :) | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | (gesture up on the bottom if the black screen comes up) | 09:44 |
| jukkaeklund | so black screen is the problem? | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | it's because the llvmpipe stack doesn't do texture from pixmap correctly atm | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | so it shows black screen on some things | 09:45 |
| w00t | hmm, we have a VM, eh | 09:45 |
| w00t | iiiinteresting | 09:45 |
| jukkaeklund | stskeeps, yep its annoying as it is | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway, good start | 09:46 |
| jukkaeklund | it is great | 09:46 |
| jukkaeklund | I see 30-40FPS | 09:46 |
| jukkaeklund | or thats what widgetsgallery says | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | what kind of hardware, out of curiousity? | 09:47 |
| jukkaeklund | TP X201 | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | does that have VT virtualization? | 09:47 |
| jukkaeklund | should have | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:47 |
| jukkaeklund | though I don't have it enabled in vmware.. | 09:48 |
| Sage_ | jukkaeklund: to be sure you should check your bios. At least on my HP the VT was disabled by the factory bios | 09:48 |
| jukkaeklund | yeah, I enabled that in BIOS | 09:48 |
| jukkaeklund | but not sure what should be vmware settings | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | this is by the way not with using accelerated vmware, virtualbox, etc graphics drivers for 2d | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | so we can probably kick the fps even further up | 09:48 |
| jukkaeklund | I guess enabled "virtualize VT-x.." | 09:49 |
| jukkaeklund | pls get rid of "boot to tizen".. | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, yes | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | it's just that i was lazy to change my config :P | 09:50 |
| jukkaeklund | I enabled virtualize VT-x and it became slower | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | also, adding SMP/multiple processors to the VM should also improve perforamnce | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | couple that with a qt sdk and it should be quite interesting | 09:52 |
| jukkaeklund | its smooth at least with this setup | 09:52 |
| jukkaeklund | would be good to try with some netbook that many devs seem to use | 09:53 |
| jukkaeklund | I can later | 09:53 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: especially if we offer easy ways to install additional libs inside the SDK rootfs, it would be great - for platform apps development too | 09:53 |
| jukkaeklund | this tackles nicely problem of missing hardware.. | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: :nod: | 09:53 |
| w00t | not that I'm thinking of myself or anything.. *whistle* | 09:54 |
| Sage_ | lbt: did you work with the extlinux stuff at some point? | 09:56 |
| Sage_ | I'm mainly wondering what is the proper way to update the config for that | 09:56 |
| jukkaeklund | same way to have multiple touch events would be nice, without touch display | 09:57 |
| jukkaeklund | ..some way.. | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | you could probably do something with qemu-kvm and that | 10:00 |
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| lbt | extlinux... | 10:07 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: just fyi http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=grubby.git;a=commit;h=6e6cb85fd77b7d026a30cd099a2392e2e3c5f5a1 | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | sane | 11:18 |
| Sage_ | updated after that couple of times but there is support for arm and uboot also in grubby now | 11:18 |
| Sage_ | atm. trying to figure out how to do the kernel update for x86 properly with grubby and extlinux so that it would also boot :) | 11:22 |
| Sage_ | lbt: need to update your kernel HA template probably if the solution is something that could be adapted easily | 11:23 |
| lbt | ... | 11:23 |
| * lbt was in the middle of infra things... slow context switch | 11:24 | |
| Sage_ | :P | 11:24 |
| lbt | That HA work needs putting somewhere sensible | 11:25 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?commit=4&linkrev=base&package=kernel-adaptation-pc&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic | 11:32 |
| Sage_ | lbt: not related to previous but something we also need to change. | 11:32 |
| lbt | agree | 11:35 |
| lbt | make a bug? | 11:35 |
| Sage_ | we should have component for Hardware Adaptation Example | 11:36 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: where should the bug go now? Mer Vendor Interface? | 11:38 |
| lbt | good enough | 11:39 |
| lbt | a component may be a good idea too | 11:39 |
| lbt | HA utilities ? | 11:39 |
| Sage_ | I would recommend "Hardware Adaptation" instead of HA ;) | 11:40 |
| * lbt type slow | 11:40 | |
| Sage_ | but Utilities sounds ok, can't say anything better atm. | 11:41 |
| Sage_ | btw, how to change the version noted by kernel as it currently does /lib/modules/3.2.5/ when doing make INSTALL_MOD_PATH=%{buildroot} modules_install | 11:42 |
| Sage_ | and I want it to do 3.2.5-4.1 | 11:42 |
| Sage_ | # make sure EXTRAVERSION says what we want it to say | 11:46 |
| Sage_ | perl -p -i -e "s/^EXTRAVERSION.*/EXTRAVERSION = ${ExtraVer}/" Makefile | 11:46 |
| lbt | Sage_: I deliberately didn't do that | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | uhh.. | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | it's a good reason to have that | 11:48 |
| lbt | I would like to add something in there though | 11:49 |
| Sage_ | that is something we really need | 11:49 |
| Sage_ | one reason is that some scripts seem to assume that there is - in final kernel version | 11:50 |
| lbt | http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-versions.html | 11:51 |
| lbt | that's *why* I didn't do it - not saying I know the answer but it wasn't arbitrary | 11:52 |
| lbt | the point is I like to have a rationale for these things - then at least people know why we use what we use | 11:53 |
| Sage_ | lbt: :nod: I don't want to add anything that is there because of it has been there before so why not. | 11:54 |
| Sage_ | which was the initial approach of my kernel packaging do it as minimal as possible and see how it goes :) | 11:54 |
| lbt | the 'problem' is defining the abiname/featureset | 11:54 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/3387022 | 11:55 |
| lbt | but I think they can be macro values somewhere | 11:55 |
| lbt | :) | 11:55 |
| Sage_ | it assumes that there is at least one - as there should be the flavour :) | 11:56 |
| lbt | yeah - but that will fit with the debian style numbering | 11:59 |
| lbt | which is sane since it allows, eg a new kernel package with extra modules but no abi change | 11:59 |
| lbt | and if vendors want to increment abi value as a simple counter then that's OK too | 12:00 |
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| * Sage_ :headdes: /lib/modules/3.2.58.1-pc/ | 12:09 | |
| Sage_ | it is always nice to note typo after compiling larger package :P | 12:10 |
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| Sage_ | kernel-adaptation-pc-3.2.5-9.1.i586.rpm 2012-Feb-15 12:21:26 85.1M application/x-rpm | 12:30 |
| Sage_ | o_0 | 12:30 |
| Sage_ | 85M really? | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | remembered to strip? | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah, kitchen sink.. | 12:30 |
| Sage_ | hmmp old version only 12M so probably something went wrong :) | 12:31 |
| Sage_ | old version 3.0.0 | 12:31 |
| Sage_ | debuginfo package 19.6K ;) | 12:31 |
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| veskuh_nemo | after fixing #113 links work in ircchatter | 13:02 |
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| Sage_ | nice | 13:05 |
| Sage_ | veskuh_nemo: you have the bug 20 fix as well or just the fix for 113? | 13:05 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4365 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4365 | 13:06 |
| veskuh | I have 113, I exported BROWSER manually to verify | 13:06 |
| Sage_ | ah, ok | 13:06 |
| Sage_ | how to extend the rpm macros to show the actual result? | 13:10 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4365 Accepted promotion request | 13:10 |
| Sage_ | rpm -qp --scripts seems to do the trick | 13:11 |
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| slaine | w00t: not for too long, you might go blind | 16:48 |
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| w00t | frals: so I may have accidentally started on the QML :( | 16:55 |
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| rantom | Correct me if I'm wrong: new images of Nemo come tomorrow? | 17:58 |
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| * w00t has most of a simple browser done | 19:17 | |
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| timoph | http://timoph.fi/term.jpg <- vkb looks a bit funny :) | 19:36 |
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| Sage_ | timoph: known bug | 19:38 |
| timoph | still funny :) | 19:39 |
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| timoph | nice to see harmattan app working without any changes on nemo | 19:42 |
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| timoph | well. I need to fix the packaging a bit but otherwise works | 19:43 |
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| w00t | timoph: :) | 19:58 |
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| w00t | Sage_: http://qtl.me/filebrowser.png | 19:59 |
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| slaine | you see a lot of those lenovo's around these parts | 20:01 |
| Sage_ | w00t: nice | 20:06 |
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| timoph | slaine: yeah. keeps reminding me how much fun I had back in Dublin's conference | 20:14 |
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