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| * merlin1991 has nfc but plymouth is the ususal thing | 05:06 | |
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| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: generic-* something, i forgot | 05:40 |
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| amason | hello all, i was wondering if someone would be kind enough to give me a rough overview of the functionality that nemo currently provides on the N9 device | 06:15 |
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| Sage | morning | 07:05 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: huh? | 07:05 |
| Sage | dcthang: plymouth-lite and ce-backgrounds are used in Nemo and are in CE: Projects | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | err | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: pre-coffee | 07:06 |
| arcol | morning | 07:08 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 07:08 |
| arcol | is there any of you guys "eating their own dogfood" already? | 07:08 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | i think veskuh's doing it, i'm using nemo on my exopc | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa is too, i think | 07:09 |
| * dm8tbr just arrived in Oulu | 07:09 | |
| arcol | hmm | 07:09 |
| * dm8tbr might try if santa^w av500 brings him a A101/A80 gen9 for xmas^wfosdem | 07:10 | |
| * Stskeeps tries to find a good name for mer's central yaml files | 07:13 | |
| arcol | Stskeeps: Im using extensively on my n900 the camera feature (I have currently 2900 pictures on it), and I email it almost every picture (take picture, share, type email address). But if you say others has no problem I will try it the end of the motnh:) | 07:13 |
| Stskeeps | arcol: :nod: we can't give you production quality camera for various reasons, but it's already quite good | 07:15 |
| Stskeeps | and probably hackable if you want | 07:15 |
| arcol | various reasons? | 07:20 |
| arcol | any bug id?:) | 07:20 |
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| Stskeeps | various reasons = imaging technology is a key differentiator in mobile handsets and we can't make some of the highly patented ones available with redistributable licenses | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:21 |
| arcol | hmm | 07:22 |
| arcol | is it some specific feature? | 07:23 |
| arcol | its totally new to me. Any link to docs? | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | well, as an example, on n950, we don't have a lot of the smart autofocus | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | but try out n900 camera and see if it's ok or not | 07:24 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 07:48 |
| niqt | when i have stable https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcalendar how i can push in nemo image? | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | you make it into a tar.gz and then add a .spec file to it (we can usually help with that) and build it with community OBS and then submit it | 07:51 |
| niqt | ok | 07:52 |
| niqt | thnaks | 07:52 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: where are we supposed to have the PA settings for N9? | 09:55 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: it is the same pulseaudio-settings-n950 package | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | ok, i don't see the symlink to rm696, do you? | 10:28 |
| Sage | umm... it is in my branch | 10:30 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/rdiff?opackage=pulseaudio-settings-n950&oproject=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&package=pulseaudio-settings-n950&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&rev=4 | 10:30 |
| Sage | that is the fixed package that didn't work based on tests made by veskuh(?) | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 10:31 |
| veskuh | yep, well I do not remember anymore did I actually test the audio back then or just the commandline mentioned in hte bug | 10:31 |
| veskuh | yesterday I actually tested audio | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | also, i'm checking up on the battery measurement on n950-n9 | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | it seems to be that we're not at all doing any | 10:32 |
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| Sage | veskuh: btw, let me know when and if you have tested the Project:MTF:MW stuff. The libmeegotouch in there has 45 upstream bugs fixed. http://pastie.org/3200494 | 10:38 |
| veskuh | Ah, almost forgot. I can do it right now | 10:39 |
| Sage | btw, I was quite supriced how painless that update was | 10:41 |
| veskuh | I guess thinks are stabilizing | 10:42 |
| Sage | yes it seems so | 10:48 |
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| Sage | stskeepsie: I wonder if we should check more about the plymouth thing that fedora uses with systemd for splash screens. | 10:56 |
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| Sage | we have the "lite" version made by intel for it atm. | 10:56 |
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| veskuh | Sage, stskeepsie Nemo Steering Group | 11:02 |
| stskeepsie | yes, sorry, server crashed :) | 11:02 |
| veskuh | auts | 11:02 |
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| phaeron | Sage: looks strange. what happened ? | 12:09 |
| Sage | phaeron: no idea | 12:12 |
| Sage | trying to resubmit | 12:12 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4142 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/4142 | 12:13 |
| phaeron | obs hickup ? | 12:14 |
| Sage | yes, resubmit works | 12:16 |
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| Sage | veskuh: ah, bug fixed with update :) | 12:29 |
| veskuh | :) | 12:30 |
| veskuh | It's good to have bugs. Makes tracking progress easier. | 12:31 |
| rcg | uhm.. this might have been asked quite a few times in here but: is the n950 release/image compatible with the n9? | 12:39 |
| veskuh | yes, but same image works on both, but not the same installation instructions | 12:44 |
| veskuh | you have to search logs for link to instructions | 12:44 |
| veskuh | and getting harmattan back is challenge | 12:45 |
| rcg | veskuh: thx.. will have a look :) | 12:56 |
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| rcg | just for the record: http://mynokiablog.com/2012/01/15/howto-nemo-on-the-nokia-n9/ | 13:06 |
| rcg | http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/Nemo-Mobile-N9-instructions.txt | 13:06 |
| rcg | that's what turned up on a quick google search | 13:07 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4142 Accepted promotion request | 13:07 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4143 Rejected promotion request | 14:28 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4144 Rejected promotion request | 14:29 |
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| Sage | veskuh: a moment I'll do connman update | 14:36 |
| veskuh | ok | 14:36 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4145 Rejected promotion request | 14:37 |
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| Sage | veskuh: try connman-0.78~git2+e1d92d2 | 14:44 |
| veskuh | hmm.. without network its hard to use wget | 14:46 |
| Sage | :D | 14:47 |
| veskuh | Sage: Yep, that works. connmand does not crash and does not go wild. USB networking and WiFi work fine | 14:53 |
| Sage | veskuh: yes, that is also bug waiting for connman update | 14:55 |
| veskuh | You want to wait for tagged release? | 14:55 |
| Sage | I would prefer as this goes to Mer Core | 14:56 |
| veskuh | Ok | 14:56 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: opinions? | 14:56 |
| veskuh | I think we had bug status for waiting.. Hmm. TRIAGEDUPSTREAM sounds about right.. | 14:56 |
| veskuh | or RESOLVED CODEWAITING ? | 14:57 |
| Stskeeps | i presume cherry-picking isn't an option? | 14:57 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: too much patches :/ | 14:59 |
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| Sage | 16:58.39 < sameo> Sage: Not really no. The next ConnMan release will be a 1.0, so we're polishing our D-Bus APIs. | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | 'lo MohammadAG | 15:00 |
| MohammadAG | lo Stskeeps | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | how is it going? | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: any idea on timeframe? | 15:01 |
| MohammadAG | Stskeeps, same shit different day :P | 15:01 |
| MohammadAG | that and uni I guess | 15:01 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: btw, 'wagi' on #mer seems to be from connman (daniel wagner) | 15:02 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: no :( | 15:03 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: end of feb probably but not sure | 15:07 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, and no internim versions between what we have in mer and what is published from them? | 15:10 |
| Sage | no | 15:11 |
| Stskeeps | but they're in a stabilization phase, i presume | 15:12 |
| Sage | sry, misunderstood there are fixes between. | 15:12 |
| Sage | 0.78.2 | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok, i meant, no tagged release has the fixes we want | 15:12 |
| Sage | we haven't tried 0.78.2 | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | can we try that? | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | as i'm more inclined to take tagged releases | 15:13 |
| Sage | sure, I'll package that tomorrow to see what is going on there | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:15 |
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| merlin1991 | is there a list somewhere which closed blobs nemo still ships? | 16:08 |
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| Sage | merlin1991: those blobs are in the hardware adaptation's all. | 20:19 |
| merlin1991 | is there a definite list of "those" blobs? | 20:20 |
| * merlin1991 was thinking about taking nemo and basing a lil project on top, but the problem with redistribution are those blobs :D | 20:20 | |
| merlin1991 | if I remember correctly nemo has an agreement about the blobs with nokia? | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | merlin1991: as long as you're not doing it commercially, ie, selling phones with those as a part, there's no problem | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | merlin1991: they're redistributable for non-commercial purpose | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | s | 20:21 |
| merlin1991 | ah so nokia slapped a generaly allowance on them? | 20:22 |
| merlin1991 | s/generaly/general/ | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | right | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | we couldn't host them in meego.com else | 20:22 |
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| mikhas | erm, how was MeeGo non-commerical? | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: i think it's to be interpreted as not selling, but if you want a better explanation you can ask nokia legal | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | it was made for this purpose, hosting in a public project | 20:48 |
| merlin1991 | btw does anybody know what happened to apps.formeego.com? | 20:49 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, I assume Nokia Legal just didn't understand MeeGo properly. | 20:49 |
| mikhas | But then again, who did. | 20:49 |
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| Stskeeps | merlin1991: .org? | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: nah, these did for sure | 20:50 |
| merlin1991 | dmn | 20:50 |
| merlin1991 | though .com is unresponsive too | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | merlin1991: that one is down too, tohugh | 20:50 |
| lbt | pinged x-fade | 20:59 |
| merlin1991 | btw are there plans to add nemo to the apps.formeego system? | 21:00 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | but client work is needed | 21:01 |
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| rektide | what is the WM? mcompositor, mutter, or other? | 21:28 |
| Venemo | afaik mcompositor | 21:29 |
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| mikhas | I am wondering though, how much does Nemo need from a WM? Is compositing really must-have feature? | 21:49 |
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