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Sage | morning | 07:13 |
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Stskeeps | morn sage | 07:14 |
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Sage | I think I continue searching the udev thing. It still has something that is breaking the N900 boot | 07:54 |
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Sage | the bt mac address thing was one, but something else is off too | 07:54 |
veskuh | yep, good progress so far. | 07:55 |
Sage | ok, moved all udev rules away from /lib/udev/rules.d and still same thing :/ | 07:57 |
Sage | well, all except systemd rules | 07:58 |
Stskeeps | triage in 4 minutes? | 07:58 |
veskuh | In 1 min according to my clock | 07:59 |
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Stskeeps | ok then | 07:59 |
dcthang | this https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33 still not fixed? | 08:11 |
veskuh | bugzilla is up to date. | 08:11 |
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Sage | veskuh: about the reset thing. I think the restore original settings works, but the clean device requires the com.nokia.devicelock service | 09:20 |
veskuh | I guess it makes some sense. In the device lock if you typo your pwd too many times it wipes the device. I guess they implemented it to device lock and just recycled the code in control panel. | 09:23 |
veskuh | Or actually not recycled the code, but used it as service | 09:23 |
Sage | yes, it seems that cleandevice cleans the device during next reboot | 09:23 |
Sage | and the cp just says to devicelock service to do taht on next boot | 09:24 |
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Stskeeps | morn xruxa | 09:27 |
xruxa | morning | 09:29 |
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Sage | xruxa: did you note these http://pastie.org/3172498 http://pastie.org/3172538 ? | 09:31 |
xruxa | yup, not in much haste to fix those if no-one minds ;) | 09:32 |
Sage | yup, just informed. I'll file a bug about those just to keep track of them. | 09:32 |
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xruxa | is it just me or did irc-chatter's icon get lost somewhere? | 09:40 |
veskuh | works for me | 09:42 |
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veskuh | has anybody gotten local builds to work? | 10:30 |
Stskeeps | yes, what issues do you have? and on what OS? | 10:30 |
veskuh | "BuildService API error: can't verify packages due to lack of GPG keys" | 10:32 |
Stskeeps | --no-verify | 10:32 |
veskuh | "Warning: could not register binfmt handlers" | 10:33 |
Stskeeps | may be less critical, what error does it actually say? | 10:33 |
veskuh | No error yet.. just one warning on the way before preinstalling stuff | 10:34 |
Sage | Stskeeps: do you have kickstarter patches coming? I'm going to do some patching for the repository thing to get away the invalid gpg lines for now | 10:42 |
Sage | (not related to osc) | 10:43 |
Stskeeps | Sage: yes, though i think we should rename it mer-kickstarter, the tool too | 10:43 |
Stskeeps | as it's not compatible with the old setup really | 10:43 |
Sage | sure, we could do that as well. | 10:43 |
veskuh | Is it normal that preinstalling ncurses-libs-x86-arm takes over 15 min? | 10:45 |
Stskeeps | not terribly | 10:45 |
Stskeeps | qemu-arm (or qemu-arm-static) --version | 10:45 |
veskuh | qemu-arm version 0.12.3 (qemu-kvm-0.12.3) | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | ok, that's why | 10:46 |
Stskeeps | you need 0.14 or above or it stalls randomly | 10:46 |
veskuh | Ok, I think I got that from meego somewhere. What would be proper place to get qemu from? | 10:47 |
Stskeeps | wget http://repo.pub.meego.com/Mer%3a/Tools/openSUSE_11.4/i586/qemu-usermode-static-0.15.1-1.1.i586.rpm , rpm2cpio *.rpm |cpio -idv | 10:48 |
Stskeeps | it's just a static binary, so | 10:48 |
veskuh | ok, thanks | 10:49 |
Sage | anyone know dbus api to show messages via system ui? | 10:50 |
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veskuh | Stskeeps: yeps, qemu helped | 10:56 |
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Sage | hmmp... looked at meegotouch-theme btw | 11:01 |
Sage | I updated meegotouch-theme to version 0.25.1 which broke stuff | 11:02 |
Sage | previously tested by veskuh and it seems that in harmattan pr 1.2 they are still using the 0.24.x series so maybe we should stick with that as well | 11:02 |
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* lbt looks for Jukka to tell him the T-shirt sizes are in the email :D | 11:11 | |
veskuh | lbt: quickest way to reach him would probably be twitter :) | 11:12 |
lbt | he's done the right thing and emailed Denise ... she'll explain how to read an email to him .... | 11:14 |
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Sage | # Do not build require Qt Mobility module to avoid OBS extra build cycles | 11:26 |
the-boss | Sage: Error: "Do" is not a valid command. | 11:26 |
Sage | # - QtServiceFramework | 11:26 |
the-boss | Sage: Error: "-" is not a valid command. | 11:26 |
Sage | ^ ? | 11:26 |
Stskeeps | uhh.. | 11:27 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:27 |
Stskeeps | where is that from? | 11:27 |
Sage | libmeegotouch | 11:27 |
Stskeeps | well, qt mobility doesn't dep on libmeegotouch | 11:27 |
Sage | is that service framework the one I was missing a while ago? :D | 11:27 |
Stskeeps | i think | 11:27 |
Sage | hmmp | 11:27 |
Stskeeps | if it does, that's a clear layering violation | 11:27 |
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Sage | I wonder where that servicefw is used | 11:30 |
Sage | w00t: ^ any knowledge? | 11:30 |
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w00t | servicefw may not be used by anything we have | 11:33 |
w00t | (not that having it disabled is nice) | 11:33 |
veskuh | I think prestart and single instance support in libmeegotouch use servicefw | 11:34 |
Sage | lbt, Stskeeps, phaeron: so how can this patch be applied :D http://pastie.org/3194448 | 11:34 |
Stskeeps | yeah, ermmmmm | 11:35 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:35 |
* lbt grins out loud | 11:35 | |
lbt | git FTW | 11:35 |
veskuh | w00t, Sage hmm.. Looking at this: http://apidocs.meego.com/1.1/platform/html/libmeegotouch/servicefw.html not sure if libmeegotouch has own servicefw or uses Qt mobilitys.. | 11:36 |
lbt | Sage: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1910615/how-to-apply-git-diff-binary-patches-without-git-installed | 11:36 |
lbt | ie ... you can't | 11:37 |
Sage | veskuh: well, that was very old comment might be out of the lmt already | 11:37 |
Sage | lbt: oh, crap :) | 11:37 |
lbt | yeah | 11:37 |
Sage | so only thing I can do is to merge them to tarball pretty much | 11:38 |
lbt | mmm | 11:39 |
lbt | this is a png? | 11:39 |
lbt | so add it as a source file | 11:39 |
lbt | and do a manual prep cp ? | 11:39 |
Sage | well, it is patch that well either I do as patch or merge in tarball | 11:39 |
Sage | and use tar-version+gitX.tar.gz syntax | 11:39 |
lbt | what's wrong with my idea? | 11:40 |
lbt | upload the new png | 11:40 |
lbt | as Source2 | 11:40 |
lbt | and 'apply the patch' by cp Source2 -> dst | 11:40 |
Sage | makes confusion IMO. | 11:40 |
Sage | it is not my patch but one from git | 11:40 |
lbt | alternatively... we BR on git | 11:41 |
w00t | we don't have a git package | 11:41 |
Sage | yes | 11:41 |
lbt | rabbithole | 11:41 |
w00t | and having one requires packaging 318957178187 of perl packages | 11:41 |
w00t | (I looked at it) | 11:41 |
lbt | oh | 11:41 |
lbt | ew | 11:41 |
lbt | minimal git? | 11:41 |
lbt | we want to use git more in the build process eventually | 11:42 |
Sage | what is the easiest way to know how many commits there is difference to tag X from head? | 11:42 |
lbt | git log | 11:42 |
Sage | and manually count? | 11:42 |
lbt | or shortlog | wc | 11:42 |
lbt | using a range spec | 11:42 |
w00t | git log tag-name-here...branchname --pretty=oneline | wc -l | 11:43 |
w00t | shortlog? hmm | 11:43 |
lbt | --oneline | 11:43 |
w00t | did not know that existed :) | 11:43 |
lbt | it doesn't | 11:44 |
lbt | I just don't know all the options by heart :) | 11:44 |
mikhas | that why bash has aliases | 11:46 |
lbt | Sage: git log --oneline v2.6.35..v2.6.36 | wc | 11:47 |
veskuh | Sage: libmeegotouch utilizes qt mobility servicefw for its own servicefw if it is there. However, looks like not much is lost without mobility integration. http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/blobs/master/mservicemapper/mservicemapper.cpp | 11:47 |
Sage | veskuh: well, the question was mainly that if we should enable that now or not | 11:48 |
lbt | Sage: git log --oneline v2.6.35..v2.6.36 | wc | 11:49 |
veskuh | Its disabled? I do not think we are losing much. | 11:49 |
lbt | oops ... that's twice I've finger-fudged --- sorry | 11:49 |
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Sage | veskuh: yes, it seems to be disabled http://pastie.org/3194547 | 11:57 |
Sage | also qmsystem and libmlocale are | 11:57 |
Sage | and contentaction | 11:57 |
* Sage ponders why the -no-werror doesn't work there | 11:58 | |
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marquiz | Sage: you had some question about sensorfw back there(?) | 12:28 |
Sage | marquiz: yes, what is the difference with meego 0.7.x version and harmattan 0.6.x version? | 12:28 |
Sage | just pondering that meego's version isn't maintained anymore but harmattan is so if we should change to that if there isn't really need to stay in 0.7.x | 12:29 |
Sage | w00t, veskuh: do we miss something in MTF as we don't have following features enabled: qmsystem, libmlocale and contentaction? | 12:30 |
marquiz | Sage: i'd say not as the harmattan branch contains a lot of harmattan/n9-specific hacks | 12:32 |
marquiz | and there's not been too many changes after the summer | 12:32 |
marquiz | last commit in master is from october | 12:33 |
w00t | afair, mtf has an internal copy of mlocale, but we really should probably switch away from the bundled copy | 12:35 |
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veskuh | mcalendar would use qmsystem for something, but pretty much that is the only thing I could find for QmSystem | 12:43 |
veskuh | don't need it I think | 12:43 |
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veskuh | Sage: contenaction would support things like links in MLabels if the configuration of those would be ok. See: http://zagadka.vm.bytemark.co.uk/docboy/libcontentaction/ | 12:47 |
veskuh | However, I do not think we have any actions really supported. | 12:47 |
Sage | veskuh: I have libmeegotouch and theme update cooking atm. | 12:53 |
Sage | w00t: I'll package the mlocale as well to my next update so we get in sync with harmattan there | 12:55 |
Sage | I'm guessing that the internal mlocale we are using isn't really maintained anymore | 12:56 |
w00t | afaik not | 12:57 |
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Sage | \o/ libmlocale packaged and libmeegotouch update as well | 14:06 |
Sage | and meegotouch-theme and meegotouch-theme-graphics and meegotouch-applauncherd | 14:07 |
xruxa | Sage: nice, lets see if some of the green rectangles will go away | 14:07 |
Sage | available at https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Project%3AMTF:MW | 14:08 |
Sage | just need to wait until compile is done | 14:08 |
* Sage updates wetab with the new MTF stuff | 14:15 | |
* xruxa does not see any new MTF (?) | 14:17 | |
Sage | xruxa: it is only in Project:MTF:MW repo atm. as it is not tested yet | 14:17 |
xruxa | IC, I follow Projects:MTF:UX, not MW | 14:18 |
Sage | I don't see any change what so ever in these new packages | 14:20 |
Sage | veskuh: Project:MTF:MW contains new stuff for testing if you want to have a look. Personally I don't see any changes | 14:23 |
veskuh | Ok, I don't have time today, but I'll take a look tomorrow. | 14:24 |
Sage | also the :UX seems to compile fine against the new :MW | 14:28 |
Sage | Anyway I'll push that forward tomorrow at somepoint after people have had some time to test. | 14:29 |
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Sage | hmmp... nice keyboard from my netbook broke :( | 18:21 |
Stskeeps | the s10-3t? | 18:22 |
Stskeeps | and how broke? | 18:22 |
Sage | my "primary" home hacking laptop | 18:22 |
Sage | hp mini 5101 | 18:23 |
Stskeeps | ah | 18:23 |
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Sage | the n key doesn't work properly | 18:23 |
Sage | it seems like the spring under it fell apart or something | 18:23 |
Sage | I like sensitive keyboard but this is a bit too much :D | 18:23 |
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Venemo | hey w00t, can we talk a little bit about Lipstick? | 21:29 |
w00t | I guess, but not for long | 21:30 |
w00t | I'm in EET, so it's later than usual | 21:30 |
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vgrade | http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/1/16/2711225/mercedes-benz-gesture-control-car-interior-concept | 21:35 |
vgrade | I wonder what the jesture is for woops i've just ran into the car infromt | 21:37 |
vgrade | gesure | 21:37 |
vgrade | argh | 21:37 |
virtuald | try facepalm | 21:41 |
virtuald | or maybe faceplant on airbag | 21:41 |
Venemo | w00t, oh, sorry | 21:42 |
Venemo | w00t, so I see that you have some nice C++ models for various stuff that's needed in basically any UX | 21:43 |
Venemo | w00t, I was thinking about putting that code into a QML plugin | 21:43 |
Venemo | w00t, after that, I need a working statusbar (perhaps I can steal it from qt-components?) | 21:43 |
w00t | Venemo: go ahead, I want the entire UX moved into plugins (the core just loading one) in the longer run anyway | 21:43 |
w00t | yes, qt-components has a statusbar item that can probably be stoken | 21:44 |
Venemo | that's nice :) | 21:44 |
Venemo | and when this is done, I want to start working on my own UX, based on the lipstick QML plugin :) | 21:44 |
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w00t | :nod: | 21:45 |
w00t | sounds good | 21:45 |
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Venemo | w00t, IMO what's missing from Mer/Nemo (and also other Linux distributions in general) is a decent user experience. | 21:50 |
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Venemo | one that is actually convenient for end users too | 21:55 |
* w00t needs to go to bed | 21:56 | |
w00t | night | 21:56 |
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Venemo | w00t, good night :) | 22:29 |
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