#nemomobile log for Wednesday, 2012-01-18

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juhi24hi! tried installing nemo on my n900 on microsd with uboot. cant seem to boot to nemo. rewrote the 12-1-2012 image on the card a couple of times but no luck. any insights?01:11
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plateis there a HW compat page for n9006:00
platei assume wifi and Xorg work , but how about GPS, FM, Cam?06:00
plate(Trying to decide if i should go purchase a microSD card)06:03
plateit seems like the only sane solution is sell everything and look for whatever Archos tablet has teh best mer compatibility out of hte box. and then convince them to make a 4" version. could care less about LTE/GSM modems06:03
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Stskeepsarchos g9 is also an option then06:04
Stskeepswifi, xorg, gps works but isn't wired up, FM .. not sure, haven't tried, camera works06:04
plateah ok06:04
platesounds worth a try then :)06:04
Stskeepsmodem even works06:04
plateah, ARchos 43 is 4.3 in06:09
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dcthangHi, This bug is not fixed still? https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=907:49
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Stskeepsthere's a new bug for the charging level one07:50
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Stskeepswhich is a little more complex07:53
dcthangyes, no one is fixing it?08:04
Stskeepsit's on my list for either today or tomorrow, the issue is that there 1) isn't any module in the kernel reporting charging state 2) there is no contextkit module talking to BME (battery daemon)08:05
Stskeepsand either one is kind of complex :)08:06
Stskeepsveskuh: remember if battery level measurement -ever- worked on n950/n9?08:06
veskuhI don't remember seeing it ever08:07
Stskeepsok08:07
Sagemorning08:10
Stskeepsmorn sage08:11
StskeepsSage: prerelease is in Core-next: now08:11
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Sageyes, noted your mail. Will check if causes regressions in build08:11
Sagemost of the repos seem to be building still so maybe later today will check that :)08:12
Stskeepsyeah08:13
Stskeepsi wonder if mic2 will throw up at missing meego-release08:13
* veskuh hates bugs that are hard to replicate08:13
Sageremains to be seen. I'll check image build today or tomorrow.08:13
Stskeepsbtw, i got new kernel for n950 building yesterday08:13
Sageveskuh: what bug?08:13
veskuhI saw yesterday dialer close call button not actually closing the call08:14
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SageStskeeps: as in newer than .32 or just updated .32?08:14
StskeepsSage: updated .3208:14
veskuhhaven't been able to replicate today08:14
Stskeepsit doesn't fix the tearing issue, but it does fix some of the samsung onenand issues and possibly modem/usb08:14
w00tdid we ever look into our delta between harmattan wrt X?08:15
Stskeepsto the extent that we'd have to fork xorg08:15
Stskeeps-server08:15
w00tI mean, I guess that's one of the few components that differ08:15
w00theh08:15
w00tyes, I know they patch the shit out of it08:15
mikhas_;-)08:19
mikhas_we had to!08:20
w00tlies, mikhas_, sweet, delicious lies08:21
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SageStskeeps: where did we set e.g. -mfloat-abi=softfp ?08:34
Sageit was some rpm package or OBS config?08:34
Stskeepsrpm, meego-rpm-config08:34
Sageah, that yes08:35
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juhi24hi all! I failed booting into nemo yesterday on my n900. uboot just proceeds to noloboot... tried rewriting the image on the sd card a couple of times. should i try older image or..?08:49
Stskeepshow did you write it?08:49
veskuhDid you official Maemo5 on the device or community SSU?08:50
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juhi24cssu. does not work that way?08:50
juhi24and using dd08:50
Stskeepsdd to what exactly? show the command line please :)08:50
veskuhI think some people have reported problems if there is non-official kernel08:50
juhi24as in instructions for linux08:50
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veskuhjuhi24: cssu is probably the reason it does not work. Old instructions still had this warning:08:52
Stskeepsmorn iekku o/08:52
veskuhjuhi24: "WARNING: You have to use PR 1.3 version of Fremantle and nothing else"08:53
iekkumorning08:53
juhi24ok, that might explain it. thank you08:53
veskuhStskeeps: any idea why PR1.3 is required? Would be nice to support cssu version08:53
Stskeepsveskuh: long story short we had a run-in with nokia care08:53
Stskeepsveskuh: so we're erm, very careful when it comes to uboot08:54
Sageveskuh: hmmp08:54
Sage         U _ZN16NetworkItemModel20onDisconnectCompleteEP23QDBusPendingCallWatcher08:54
Stskeepsthere's nothing stopping anyone from using the cssu's uboot08:54
Sageoutput of: nm -D /usr/lib/libmeegotouchcp-connman-qt.so.0 | grep -i Complete08:54
veskuhStskeeps: hmm.. I hate those guys ;)08:54
Stskeepsjuhi24: can you show me the dd line?08:54
Sageveskuh: ah, nm. it is patches to the package08:54
Sageoh, hell... could someone do repository for meegotouchcp-connman w00t ? :)08:55
juhi24sry im on my n900. cant remember exactly. in my case of=/dev/mmcblk0p1 or something like that08:55
Stskeepsjuhi24: that's your error08:55
Stskeepsjuhi24: don't use p1, use mmcblk008:56
juhi24ahhh ofc!08:56
Sagew00t: there is 16 patches there already and well it is such a mess that I really don't want to continue :)08:56
juhi24now that you mention i remember reading in the instructions! i feel like such a noob...08:56
Sagew00t: could you fork https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-handset-ux/meegotouchcp-connman to some github thing ?08:57
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w00tsahyes08:58
w00tSage: yes08:58
w00twill sort it out in the next minute or two08:58
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Sagew00t: thx09:00
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juhi24hey thanks, stskeeps! i'll try installing again now with the correct dd line now ;)09:13
Stskeepsgood luck :)09:13
juhi24ty :)09:13
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dcthangabout audio problem in N9, it comes from wrong board name as I wrote in the description09:25
w00tSage: really doing it now (sorry)09:26
Sagew00t: no rush09:26
w00tSage: what do you want the repo called? meegotouchcp-connman?09:26
SageI think that is good as it is the package name as well09:27
Stskeepsdcthang: so everything works fine after the boardname is fixed?09:27
Sagedcthang: well, then this package should fix the problem: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/sage:/branches:/CE:/Adaptation:/N950-N9/CE_Adaptation_N9xx-common_armv7hl/noarch/pulseaudio-settings-n950-0.9.19.11-5.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9.noarch.rpm09:27
dcthangyeah09:27
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Sagedcthang: any change you could verify by doing clean image and installing that to your system?09:28
Stskeepsdcthang: could you test out sage's package, removing your old .pa file to verify the package works?09:28
dcthangI did try it on 2 N9 at least09:28
Sagedcthang: oh, and it worked?09:28
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#4148 Rejected promotion request09:28
dcthangyou mean the package?09:28
dcthangI tried to fix the board name for pa file in /etc/pulse09:29
Stskeepsi should really really go buy that n9..09:29
* w00t kicks Stskeeps out09:32
w00tgo do it09:32
Sagedcthang: would be nice if you could try the package out as others reported that the fix in that package didn't work09:32
dcthangyes, I know but I do not have it here. Will report to the bug very soon09:33
dcthangNo N9's near my side.09:33
Sageok09:34
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dcthangSome starting point how to use obs there? I want to build my own package from meego obs for multi arch: i386, arm ..09:39
Stskeepstopic in #mer has a guide on how to do it in community obs09:40
dcthangoh on mer, there is a topic...09:40
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reabyis it possible to do the copying to mmc only using n900 itself ?09:45
reabyhas somebody tried ever ?09:46
Stskeepsit's usually not a good idea09:46
reaby..aha09:47
reabyok, then i have to wait until monday to test this out =)09:47
w00tSage: pushed btw09:48
reabythanks09:49
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juhi24sending this from nemo on n900. looks and feels cool already! how to contribute?10:10
Stskeepswhere would you like to contribute?10:10
lbtjuhi24: congrats - what was the problem?10:11
juhi24the dd line just as sts said10:12
juhi24sry slo typing. i have finnish keyset so things messed up a bit10:13
lbtthought so ... and np :)10:13
juhi24stskeeps, i kno little about a lot of stuff but not expert on anything10:15
juhi24but im fast learner10:16
Stskeeps:nod:10:16
Stskeepsinto QML by chance?10:16
juhi24nm. might take a while to learn10:17
timophqml is pretty fast to leran10:18
timophs/leran/learn/10:18
timoph(unlike typing me for me)10:18
juhi24wiki needs updating?10:18
Stskeepsfor instance10:19
Stskeepshelping to make some documentation always helps too :)10:19
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* lbt could do with some help validating docs too10:19
lbtsome of it is quite heavy though10:20
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lbtkernel and image building, chroots. virtual machines?10:20
timophjuhi24: you don't happen to have cross compilation / toolchain experince with scratchbox2, etc? :p10:20
* timoph is a bit stuck with that excercise10:21
lbttimoph: document it10:21
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lbtit's amazing what you learn by documenting something you can't do :)10:21
timophlbt: I will after get it to move a bit forward10:22
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juhi24sry, i kno some programming and stuff and tried to play around with scrachbox. but almost no experience at all...10:23
lbtwell, following "getting started" guides with a notepad open and reporting issues then.... :D10:24
juhi24yeh ill sniff around and see if i have the time and the skillz to do anything for the good of this project10:26
Stskeepsany contribution, even small is most welcome :)10:27
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juhi24would be cool to be part of this somehow, yes. thanks for ur time guys! some studying to do now, bye!10:32
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SageStskeeps: http://pastie.org/3206628 hmmp...10:33
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SageStskeeps: on N90010:34
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Sageveskuh: have a moment to test one thing?10:35
Sageon N95010:35
* Sage left his N950 at home :/10:36
StskeepsSage: we don't have 854x48010:37
Sageveskuh: if you have time could you try these and pastie the output: http://pastie.org/320664110:37
SageStskeeps: hmmp10:37
SageStskeeps: well that explains one of those yes. But there is three failing tests.10:38
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veskuhSage: Sure10:51
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veskuhSage: http://pastie.org/320672410:57
Sagew00t: how to fix this http://pastie.org/320673610:59
Sagesomething somewhere screwed patches and I really would like to merge them with git am.11:00
Sagegit am --ignore-whitespace --ignore-space-change < ../0001-Fix-BMC-811-and-BMC-3397.patch <- same result11:01
Sagew00t: nm figured it out11:06
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w00tcool11:10
* w00t was at lunch11:10
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Sageveskuh: I have fix for the 82 compiling, care to test?11:30
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Sagehttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=meegotouchcp-connman&project=Project%3AMTF%3AUX version 0.1.0 when compile is done11:30
veskuhSage:  Sure11:30
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SageStskeeps: it seems that even N950 fails on those tests http://pastie.org/320672411:39
StskeepsWarning: using a composited window; results may not be reliable11:40
Stskeepskill mcompositor11:40
Sagehmmp11:46
veskuhSage: connman update works and fixes the bug11:47
veskuhmeaning connman-cp11:47
Sagecool. thx for testing11:47
veskuhnp11:47
Stskeepswhich connman version?11:47
Stskeepsah, -cp11:47
SageStskeeps: haven't had time to check those stable connman releases yet11:52
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SageStskeeps: turned off mcompositor and still getting Warning: using a composited window; results may not be reliable11:55
Sagealso decorator and friends11:55
SageStskeeps: with and without diffs: http://pastie.org/320696911:58
Stskeepsfun11:59
Sageso is the test faulty or does our stack has flaws?12:00
Stskeepsmaybe a bit of both12:01
Stskeepsthink i'll lay down a bit, feels like a flu coming on12:02
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Sageand for the record here is the N900 test set without mcompositor: http://pastie.org/320701012:06
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norayrStskeeps: In case you didn't notice, just wanted to mention that there's a GTA04 board. It has accelerated graphics and is able to run nemomobile for sure.19:53
Stskeepsnorayr: yes, there's a talk on it at FOSDEM and looking very much forward to seeing it :)19:54
norayr:)19:54
Stskeepsthe resolution might be too low19:54
norayrhmmm19:54
Stskeeps640x480 vs 800x48019:55
Stskeepsi actually got my freerunner back now19:55
norayrThere's an obvious need for a mobile non accelerated free UX for low end devices. HTC Wildfire also has smaller screen than other htc/android models and non GL graphics but it was able to run Froyo.19:57
norayrMe too, I have a freerunner eventually19:57
norayr:P19:57
norayrwith GTA02 though19:57
Stskeeps:nod:19:58
Stskeepsgta02 here too19:58
norayraha :)19:58
Stskeepsas a hobby project i'd like to try out some experiments with it at some point, but even when it comes to dumbphones, most of them are actually higher level than gta0219:59
norayrhmmm19:59
Stskeepsif you got a armv4t build of Mer for the freerunner, what would you do with it?19:59
norayrfirst of all I would port my photographic light meter to it, if it has light sensor20:00
Stskeepsat least gta02 doesn't20:01
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norayrThen... actually I've ordered yet another n900 in order to have it running nemomobile. Thus I can "live" under it, which means make sure I can read/write national texts()prepare a keyboard), and may be start adding some software to the nemo repositories. Cannot promise, but would like to.20:03
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