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| ilold | Stskeeps: :-) didn't find logs in maemo... didn't look very hard. anyway, testet the microSD with stock kernel. IO-Error did happen. I put dmesg output here: http://pastebin.com/30fc25Qv | 04:41 |
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| ilold | it started around 250mb of data beeing copied to microSD. | 04:42 |
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| Stskeeps | alien_: it's called mer CI obs and isn't really usable for anyone, gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb shows what input it has | 07:19 |
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| menghao_ | Hello | 07:32 |
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| menghao_ | morning gus | 07:35 |
| menghao_ | guys | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 07:35 |
| menghao_ | MORNING ! :d | 07:39 |
| menghao_ | sts, my nemo won't ring when there is incoming call | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | so what do you think about the image? | 07:40 |
| menghao_ | is that normla? | 07:40 |
| menghao_ | normal? | 07:40 |
| menghao_ | I gtg to go . i get back to you later | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | check bugs.nemomobile.org and report if not | 07:40 |
| menghao_ | okay | 07:40 |
| menghao_ | brb | 07:40 |
| menghao_ | I got to go. be right back | 07:41 |
| menghao_ | talk to you later. | 07:41 |
| Stskeeps | cy | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | a | 07:42 |
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| iekku | morning | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | iekku: have time to prepare a bugzilla search for the triage tomorrow? | 08:05 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, yes i do | 08:06 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, the search is something like 2 minutes work | 08:06 |
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| iekku | i try to make to the triage, if can't i provide the list at least | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 08:07 |
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| menghao | morning guys | 08:32 |
| iekku | morning | 08:32 |
| menghao | vibration function is not working on nemo? | 08:34 |
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| menghao | hi stskeeps | 08:42 |
| menghao | i'm back | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | i noticed | 08:42 |
| menghao | are you busy? | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | making a mer prerelease | 08:42 |
| menghao | for this week? | 08:43 |
| menghao | will you guys port XMS into Nemo? cause it has already release for N9 . | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | XMS? | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | depends, is it closed source? | 08:45 |
| menghao | yes I think it is , I know developer won't port closed source right? | 08:45 |
| menghao | it's under Ebuddy. | 08:46 |
| menghao | nice image, much more better than the previous version 1.2.9CE. :D | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | well, then we're not going to spend time on it, but if others want to try and see if it works under Nemo they can do so | 08:47 |
| menghao | alright, thanks. I like this image, wanted to use this instead of maemo but.. alarm clock is still not available right? | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | right | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | still work in progres | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | s | 09:05 |
| menghao | what can i do to contribute? | 09:06 |
| menghao | any easy stuff? | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | bug reports is a good start | 09:07 |
| menghao | ok | 09:09 |
| menghao | and. i remember i saw one video on youtube, they did test , n900 use n9 apps, where can i get the stop watch apps? is it available? | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | not sure how, you can try to ask xrura | 09:13 |
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| menghao | okay.. | 09:15 |
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| menghao | argh , my n900 unable to boot into maemo via uboot | 09:44 |
| menghao | finally. done. | 09:44 |
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| menghao | hi guys | 10:25 |
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| menghao | hello | 12:24 |
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| Hurrian | i just noticed something: builds are tagged armv7hl, and not armv7tnhl. | 12:41 |
| Hurrian | on the n900 | 12:41 |
| Hurrian | are the thumb and neon extensions buggy? | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | NEON isn't | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | thumb is | 12:43 |
| alien_ | hi, is the pub.meego.com really missing builders for armv7l and armv7hl? | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | no | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | armv7el == armv7l/armv6l, armv8el == armv7hl | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | it means "up to" | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | read the topic in #mer on how to set up your repos correctly :) | 12:47 |
| menghao | got repos for nemo to download packages? | 12:49 |
| alien_ | Stskeeps: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail ? | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | http://bit.ly/v4riNg | 12:52 |
| alien_ | thanks | 12:52 |
| alien_ | yay, that did the trick | 13:01 |
| alien_ | these were my first packages | 13:02 |
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| menghao | hello | 13:44 |
| menghao | how to gain root in nemo terminal ? :S | 13:44 |
| teve | su - ;-D | 13:49 |
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| menghao | and what is the password for root ? sorry for keep asking :S | 13:52 |
| teve | meego afaik | 13:52 |
| menghao | thanks ! | 13:53 |
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| alien_ | menghao: the password can be seen in the kickstart used to build your image | 14:01 |
| alien_ | but the default is meego | 14:01 |
| menghao | hm.. thanks alien. | 14:03 |
| menghao | alien, my clock is weird. | 14:09 |
| menghao | suppose to 22.09 now , it became 14.09. | 14:09 |
| menghao | any idea? | 14:10 |
| mikhas | alien_, hi – are you the Air UI guy? | 14:15 |
| alien_ | mikhas: no | 14:20 |
| alien_ | menghao: timezone? | 14:21 |
| menghao | GMT+8 | 14:21 |
| menghao | i did set my timezone, same thing happen to me in the afternoon, but it became normal after few hours, i didn't notice what i did to get it back normal. | 14:22 |
| menghao | right now it became abnormal again. | 14:22 |
| alien_ | menghao: is is set correctly on the device? | 14:22 |
| menghao | yes it is. | 14:25 |
| menghao | you mean in my maemo? | 14:25 |
| alien_ | wherever the closk appears to be wrong | 14:26 |
| menghao | Clock unable to set in Nemo. | 14:26 |
| menghao | Time zone is correct. | 14:26 |
| alien_ | do you use the date command from the root console? | 14:26 |
| menghao | nope. | 14:27 |
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| menghao | I'll read through wiki later, get back to you guys if I can't find solution. | 14:28 |
| alien_ | ls -la /etc/localtime | 14:28 |
| alien_ | that should be pointed to your own timezone | 14:28 |
| alien_ | in my case /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Berlin | 14:29 |
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| menghao | unable to type - by using keyboard right? | 14:30 |
| alien_ | you can connect to the nemo device using SSH | 14:30 |
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| alien_ | I only run nemo in a virtual machine so far, I lost my MMC card and keep forgetting to buy a new one | 14:31 |
| menghao | okay. | 14:31 |
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| menghao | it show the wrong timing . | 14:32 |
| menghao | 2011-12-18 14:10. | 14:32 |
| menghao | support to be 22.32 | 14:32 |
| alien_ | how does the /etc/localtime link look like, where does it point now? | 14:32 |
| menghao | kuching. it's in malaysia | 14:33 |
| menghao | GMT+8 | 14:33 |
| alien_ | then just set the date to the right value | 14:34 |
| alien_ | maybe you might need to run NTP :) | 14:34 |
| menghao | by using command? | 14:34 |
| menghao | NTP? sorry i'm newbie | 14:34 |
| alien_ | you can set the current time using the date command or your settings | 14:35 |
| alien_ | I recommend the settings app | 14:35 |
| menghao | setting apps got bug with clock. | 14:36 |
| menghao | may i know what's the command to set my loca time? | 14:37 |
| menghao | ls -la /etc/localtime | 14:37 |
| menghao | what's the next? | 14:37 |
| alien_ | the command to set the time is date | 14:37 |
| alien_ | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-set-date-time-from-linux-command-prompt/ | 14:38 |
| menghao | thanks and sorry for asking so many questions. | 14:38 |
| alien_ | it's ok | 14:39 |
| menghao | thanks. it works. | 14:40 |
| menghao | will alarm clock function add to nemo? | 14:40 |
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| alien_ | didn't try it yet | 15:19 |
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| alien_ | unresolvable: nothing provides slang-devel | 15:27 |
| alien_ | any ideas how could I work around this error? | 15:27 |
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| menghao_ | hey guys | 15:39 |
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| menghao | hey guys, anyone know how to install n9 apps like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HtzwswaN-k | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | alien_: include slang as a package | 15:40 |
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| Billynkid | Hi Guys | 16:06 |
| menghao | hi | 16:06 |
| Billynkid | I just starting out trying nemo | 16:06 |
| Billynkid | on a n900 | 16:06 |
| menghao | same here. | 16:07 |
| Billynkid | Having a problem getting the wifi to give me an ip | 16:07 |
| menghao | i just installed it today. | 16:07 |
| Billynkid | Looking amazing, loving the smooth qt interfaces | 16:07 |
| menghao | but too bad, don't have alarm clock function, i need to wake up 7hours later, having class at 8am.. | 16:07 |
| Stskeeps | menghao: sounds like a good app to make as a start | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | Billynkid: yeah, it's been much worse :) | 16:08 |
| menghao | stskeeps: make it by using qml? | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | yes, for example | 16:09 |
| menghao | well.. I'll try. | 16:09 |
| menghao | and may i know where can i get apps for nemo? or it's still unavailable? | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | menghao: apps.formeego.org is underway | 16:10 |
| alien_ | menghao: there are many apps build in the OBS | 16:10 |
| alien_ | I am now trying to add midnight commander | 16:11 |
| alien_ | which depends on slang | 16:11 |
| menghao | what does OBS stand for? | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | alien_: 'osc importsrcpkg' and http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.2.90.0.0.20110824.2/repos/oss/source/ is a godsend | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | we're intentionally not making mer or nemo too big in packages as there's more work to maintain | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | mer's ~320 packages, will be max 400 over time | 16:12 |
| menghao | hm.. that's great, as long as all the apps are useful . | 16:12 |
| alien_ | menghao: well, the core will be kept small | 16:13 |
| menghao | hm. | 16:13 |
| menghao | i went to apps.formeego.org , i downloaded a file, how to put into my phone? | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | but hopefully we'll share with rest of qt system | 16:13 |
| menghao | i installed Nemo on memory card. | 16:13 |
| alien_ | but on top of that you can have additional repos coming from diffferent people | 16:13 |
| alien_ | menghao: there should be a repo you could add to your zypper | 16:14 |
| alien_ | then just use the app manager app or zypper from the root console | 16:14 |
| menghao | zyper? wait. one moment. | 16:14 |
| menghao | what is zyper | 16:15 |
| alien_ | it's a RPM frontend, such as yum | 16:15 |
| menghao | ymp? | 16:15 |
| alien_ | zypper, double p | 16:15 |
| alien_ | menghao: yum is the package manager used in Redhat and Fedora | 16:16 |
| menghao | :o you must be a pro in linux. | 16:16 |
| alien_ | the equivalent of APT in Ubuntu | 16:16 |
| alien_ | not really | 16:16 |
| menghao | i think i should spend more time on open source OS> | 16:16 |
| menghao | I installed my Nemo image in my memory card. How to transfer files into Nemo? Like songs or some document, by using card reader? | 16:19 |
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| alien_ | yes | 16:20 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, how do you intend to keep Nemo small? | 16:20 |
| mikhas | Surely you don't want to repeat MeeGo's sin by not having polished, complete set of core apps? | 16:21 |
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| Stskeeps | mikhas: nah, it was more in terms of reviewing dependancies just as strictly as mer does, ie, we don't need LaTeX to build our man pages.. | 16:21 |
| mikhas | oh yeah, strict dependency management is certainly a good idea | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: and of course we don't want to repeat that sin :) | 16:22 |
| menghao | alien, can give me some hints or tips or even tutorial, how to port n9 apps into Nemo? | 16:22 |
| menghao | stskeeps, strict management is good ! :D | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: i should do a talk on "Seven deadly sins of the MeeGo project and how Mer solves them.." | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:22 |
| alien_ | menghao: you should start reading about the OBS | 16:23 |
| berndhs | you might never work again | 16:23 |
| alien_ | it's the tool we use | 16:23 |
| menghao | this thing? | 16:23 |
| menghao | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mer_OBS_VM_Setup_Guide | 16:23 |
| Billynkid | Where can I find the network setup files? Also the log files? | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | Billynkid: we use connman | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | Billynkid: so that and it's debugging methods | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | 'dmesg' might be handy | 16:24 |
| alien_ | menghao: no,read the links at the end of http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki | 16:25 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, well, perhaps less dramatic title, but yes. | 16:25 |
| menghao | not found. | 16:25 |
| menghao | something wrong with the link. | 16:25 |
| alien_ | add a / | 16:25 |
| menghao | okay | 16:25 |
| alien_ | Stskeeps: ^^^ | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: i love dramatic titles for my presentations ;) | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | bbl cinema | 16:26 |
| menghao | alien, what about this?http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/Install_OBS#Next_Steps | 16:29 |
| alien_ | menghao: you don't want that | 16:29 |
| alien_ | that's a partof infrastructure already done | 16:30 |
| menghao | okay. | 16:30 |
| menghao | actually what I want to know is , the way to port apps from N9. | 16:31 |
| alien_ | you need the sources and you need to write a spec file for getting them built as a RPM package instead of Deb | 16:32 |
| alien_ | you can create the spec file using specify, using a much easier to write yaml file | 16:32 |
| alien_ | then submit the source and the spec to our public infrastructure called OBS, which will build the RPM for you | 16:33 |
| alien_ | and will put it into your public zypper repo that you can use from your device | 16:34 |
| menghao | okay. I understand what you mean but I don't know how to do it. | 16:34 |
| menghao | source , is the deb file? installer? | 16:34 |
| Billynkid | So if I run ifconfig wlan0 down and then up I can see the interface trying to set an IP | 16:34 |
| Billynkid | but the interface does not change | 16:34 |
| Billynkid | Could Deleting host route failed (No such process) | 16:35 |
| alien_ | menghao: the deb file is a binary that the device can run, source is the human-readable part used to create it | 16:35 |
| Billynkid | be the problem? | 16:35 |
| menghao | ok. understood | 16:35 |
| menghao | Deb is something like Exe | 16:35 |
| alien_ | menghao: but we use RPM instead of deb, just a slightly different way of packaging | 16:35 |
| menghao | Source is all the code before it become .exe? | 16:35 |
| menghao | I got what you mean. | 16:36 |
| alien_ | no, it's more like MSI versus setup.exe | 16:36 |
| menghao | okay.. | 16:36 |
| alien_ | the binaries(what you mean by exe) are pretty much compatible between Nemo and Harmattan | 16:36 |
| alien_ | but the way of packaging them is different | 16:36 |
| menghao | ok.. thats mean, porting apps isn't an easy job to a newbie like me . | 16:37 |
| Billynkid | Ahh if I nuke the IP first it works | 16:37 |
| alien_ | menghao: it all depends on the app | 16:37 |
| alien_ | menghao: many might be straighforward | 16:38 |
| menghao | alien, have you heard about XMS? it's closed source right? | 16:38 |
| alien_ | never heard of it | 16:38 |
| menghao | new apps for N9. now is beta version, alike whatsapp. | 16:38 |
| alien_ | it might be closed, yes | 16:38 |
| menghao | for closed source, we can't get their source code and port it ? | 16:39 |
| alien_ | unless they do it | 16:39 |
| mikhas | well, if you're lucky enough you can just port the binary | 16:39 |
| mikhas | but most of the time that wont work/crash | 16:39 |
| alien_ | but there might be a way to just repackage binaries, just like mikhas said | 16:39 |
| alien_ | well, QML apps should work | 16:40 |
| menghao | you mean .deb? | 16:40 |
| alien_ | those are not really binaries | 16:40 |
| mikhas | yup | 16:40 |
| alien_ | no, I mean apps written for N9 using the Qtquick | 16:40 |
| menghao | the .. | 16:41 |
| menghao | XMS | 16:41 |
| menghao | is .deb file and it's QT based | 16:41 |
| alien_ | you can give it a try if you have the deb | 16:41 |
| alien_ | but you might need their permission in order to redistribute it to others | 16:41 |
| alien_ | closed source apps might have restrictions like you can't redistribute them to anyone else | 16:42 |
| menghao | i got the deb file, but I don't know how to do that, and I'll email to them right now. | 16:42 |
| alien_ | :) | 16:42 |
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| menghao | :) | 16:42 |
| menghao | thanks guys for the information. | 16:42 |
| menghao | gain a lot of knowledge. | 16:43 |
| alien_ | menghao: http://mynokiablog.com/2011/12/16/ebuddy-xms-available-for-meego/ | 16:43 |
| alien_ | sorry, that's just the deb | 16:44 |
| menghao | hm.. | 16:44 |
| menghao | that's mean.. we can't do that? even if we got the permission? | 16:44 |
| alien_ | just ask them | 16:45 |
| alien_ | maybe they are willing to help | 16:45 |
| alien_ | or don't mind if you redistribute it | 16:45 |
| menghao | okay. | 16:45 |
| alien_ | I think that's the way Opera did it for Meego a few months ago | 16:46 |
| menghao | hm, I'll email to them later. need to edit my flash project . have to submit on tomorrow. hate it. :@ | 16:46 |
| alien_ | heh, it seems alien can handle it | 16:47 |
| alien_ | at least it generated a RPM | 16:47 |
| menghao | you mean you email them to get the permissoin? | 16:47 |
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| alien_ | no, I mean I was able to generate an RPm out of their deb | 16:48 |
| menghao | ookay ! | 16:48 |
| menghao | :) | 16:48 |
| alien_ | no idea if it works, though | 16:48 |
| menghao | hope to hear from you soon :3 | 16:48 |
| menghao | don't worry I'm willing to sacrifice my time to be the tester. hahaha.. | 16:48 |
| alien_ | I can push it to some filesharing site if you want it | 16:49 |
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| menghao | sure. but how to install ? | 16:50 |
| alien_ | use the root account | 16:50 |
| menghao | Not sure about the command, how to install. | 16:51 |
| alien_ | you can copy it over using scp and install it using rpm -i | 16:52 |
| teve | rpm -ivh http://filesharing.site.com/path/xms_alien.rpm | 16:52 |
| alien_ | thanks, teve's suggestion is even better | 16:53 |
| alien_ | https://rapidshare.com/files/3124149724/xms-qt-1.0.0-2.armel.rpm | 16:54 |
| menghao | okay. I have to transfer it into my memory card right? by using card reader? | 16:54 |
| alien_ | you can download it from the device | 16:54 |
| alien_ | are you connected as root to it? | 16:55 |
| menghao | nope. | 16:55 |
| menghao | My room can't get wifi signal now. | 16:55 |
| menghao | too far from AP | 16:55 |
| menghao | are you a programmer? | 16:56 |
| alien_ | system engineer with some programming background | 16:56 |
| alien_ | DevOps, as some would say :) | 16:57 |
| menghao | what's the difference between system engineer? Information system engineer? ? | 16:57 |
| menghao | hm. okay. | 16:57 |
| menghao | I need to choose my major course in degree 6month later. | 16:58 |
| alien_ | this video explains pretty much my job http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAP1zaXUvAE | 16:58 |
| menghao | okay. | 16:59 |
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| mikhas | menghao, go to FOSDEM, should you live in Europe. | 17:02 |
| menghao | i'm not living in europe. | 17:02 |
| menghao | i live in Malaysia. | 17:02 |
| alien_ | I might go to FOSDEM | 17:03 |
| mikhas | hm, try to attend IT conferences regardless | 17:03 |
| mikhas | good thing about F/OSS conferences: they are usually very affordable | 17:03 |
| menghao | IT conferences.. like Barcamp? | 17:03 |
| alien_ | mikhas: IT ones are pretty expenssive, velocity was around 700€ | 17:04 |
| alien_ | I only went there because my employer paid it | 17:04 |
| menghao | unable to access my memory card >< | 17:04 |
| mikhas | yeah but how else would you get an idea about what you can do in IT? | 17:05 |
| alien_ | menghao: do you have a Linux machine besides the phone? | 17:05 |
| menghao | yes | 17:05 |
| menghao | but i have to reboot | 17:05 |
| menghao | be right back | 17:05 |
| alien_ | menghao: the card could only be read by linux | 17:05 |
| menghao | okay. | 17:06 |
| menghao | brb | 17:06 |
| alien_ | and developing for Nemo meens you need linux anyway | 17:06 |
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| menghao | hey | 17:13 |
| menghao | alien | 17:13 |
| alien_ | yes | 17:13 |
| menghao | :D | 17:13 |
| menghao | on ubuntu now. | 17:13 |
| menghao | but unable to paste the file into my memory card. | 17:13 |
| alien_ | download it from the device | 17:14 |
| menghao | N900? | 17:14 |
| alien_ | use tinyurl to shrink the URL and get it there | 17:14 |
| menghao | u mean download by using N900? | 17:15 |
| alien_ | exactly | 17:15 |
| menghao | mind give me the url again? | 17:15 |
| alien_ | ttp://tinyurl.com/6wn4cwr | 17:16 |
| menghao | unable to load web authentication page ! grr. | 17:20 |
| menghao | stupid wifi. | 17:20 |
| Billynkid | Ok, wifi now up | 17:22 |
| menghao | congrat billy | 17:24 |
| mikhas | alien_, very nice talk | 17:26 |
| mikhas | though second half is much better than first :-) | 17:26 |
| alien_ | thanks | 17:26 |
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| menghao | hey | 17:39 |
| menghao | alien | 17:39 |
| alien_ | yes | 17:39 |
| menghao | the browser didn't pop out the file let me to download | 17:39 |
| menghao | Is there any other browser beside helium? | 17:40 |
| alien_ | no idea, download it on the desktop and use scp to put it on the device | 17:40 |
| menghao | scp? | 17:41 |
| alien_ | are you still on Linux? | 17:41 |
| alien_ | scp file root@N900'sIP:/root/ | 17:42 |
| menghao | alien | 17:42 |
| menghao | I think I'll try it on tomorrow. | 17:43 |
| menghao | I got to sleep . class start in few hours time later. | 17:43 |
| alien_ | ok | 17:43 |
| alien_ | nite | 17:43 |
| menghao | I'm sorry I couldn't try it instantly | 17:43 |
| menghao | nite alien. | 17:45 |
| menghao | thanks for your information . | 17:46 |
| alien_ | welcome | 17:46 |
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| alien_ | question about the way we use gerrit/OBS | 17:54 |
| alien_ | what value does it add the fact that we store all the archives in git/OBS? | 17:55 |
| alien_ | shouldn't our packages just download the sources from the project that originates them, upon demand? | 17:55 |
| alien_ | and we only would distribute patches against them | 17:56 |
| alien_ | and build scripts | 17:56 |
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| psychologe | hello everybody,i need some help , | 19:09 |
| alien_ | psychologe: just ask | 19:10 |
| psychologe | i look this thread talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73146 ,i can boot power-kernel ,nitdroit-kernel ,,but can't boot nemo,, i aready write nemo img to my 4GB SD card , | 19:16 |
| psychologe | when system used uboot boot nemo ,output some error message :unable to read boot.scr on mmc1:2 ...and other , | 19:21 |
| alien_ | is this n900? | 19:22 |
| psychologe | yes ,on my N900 | 19:23 |
| alien_ | that thread doesn't seem to cover nemo | 19:24 |
| alien_ | you use uboot-pr13, right? | 19:26 |
| alien_ | on the Maemo side | 19:26 |
| alien_ | did you try to follow this instead? http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/GettingStarted | 19:27 |
| psychologe | it cover install power-kernel,nitdroit and meego on N900 ,,,,multiboot ,yes use uboot-pr13 | 19:28 |
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| xruxa | Sage: Seems I was able to make new Darko right in Project:MTF:UX. Do I need to do anything to push it to CE:UX:MTF or elsewhere? | 22:37 |
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| alien_ | I wonder, would Nokia be pissed if the community would rewrite the N9 UX from scratch and run it on top of mer? | 23:57 |
| alien_ | as it happened with the N900 UX already | 23:58 |
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