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| menghao | morning guy | 00:47 |
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| menghao | guys | 00:47 |
| Venemo_N950 | hi | 00:48 |
| menghao | what | 00:50 |
| menghao | what's the requirement to use scp command? | 00:50 |
| menghao | comp and device connected under same access point? | 00:50 |
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| menghao | hello | 01:18 |
| araujo | ni hao ma menghao | 01:20 |
| menghao | wo hen hao. | 01:22 |
| menghao | what about you? | 01:22 |
| araujo | hen hao | 01:23 |
| menghao | I not really good. | 01:23 |
| araujo | what's wrong? | 01:23 |
| menghao | was trying to transfer a rpm file into my sd card. | 01:24 |
| menghao | but failed. | 01:24 |
| menghao | i wrote my image in SD card. | 01:24 |
| araujo | did you check if the file is corrupted? | 01:26 |
| menghao | well. | 01:27 |
| menghao | hm. | 01:27 |
| menghao | I want to put a rpm file into my memory card | 01:28 |
| menghao | i tried to connect usb, and i choose mass strorage , it goes to my n900 32GB internal memory | 01:28 |
| menghao | Nemo unable to read the files from there right? | 01:28 |
| menghao | So i took out my memory card and put into card reader and insert into linux machine. | 01:28 |
| menghao | I tried to copy the file into memory card but fail too | 01:28 |
| menghao | araujo : any idea? | 01:41 |
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| menghao | hello | 02:34 |
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| menghao | alien, you there? | 03:15 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:38 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | alien_: will respond to your mail after coffee, is good to document the why and hows :) | 06:08 |
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| iekku | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&order=Importance&field0-0-0=assigned_to&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=TRIAGEDUPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=RELEASED&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=%09need-triage%40nemomobile.org | 06:23 |
| iekku | ^bugs needing triage, triage staring in 1,5h | 06:23 |
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| Stskeeps | thanks | 06:24 |
| iekku | i will try to be chairing | 06:25 |
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| Stskeeps | cool | 06:36 |
| mikhas | Bug triage @ 9am UTC on Monday is so cruel. | 06:41 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. it's just to start the week as our work has become a bit unfocused | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | and well | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | if we are in triages, we're not causing monday related accidents | 06:42 |
| iekku | :D :D :D | 06:43 |
| mikhas | Why unfocused? | 06:43 |
| Stskeeps | as in it's better to fix glaring bugs than add features at times | 06:43 |
| mikhas | That is very true. | 06:44 |
| mikhas | Whenever we had to add dramatic features in Harmattan, we've paid twice: Old bugs that didn't get fixed instead, and new bugs. | 06:45 |
| mikhas | => steadily increasing bug residue | 06:45 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:45 |
| iekku | is there bugs in harmattan? :shock: | 06:46 |
| mikhas | iekku, sometimes I am surprised we shipped. | 06:47 |
| iekku | mikhas, sometimes = all the time? :P | 06:48 |
| iekku | personally i'm suprised, not because the bugs, but because of the elop | 06:48 |
| mikhas | That too. | 06:50 |
| mikhas | See and yet it was probably the kick in the stomach that made us Harmattan ready to ship. | 06:51 |
| marquiz | morning | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | morn marquiz | 06:53 |
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| mikhas | Not going to be here later, but I'll try to forward https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48 to someone from our team. | 06:56 |
| mikhas | And https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50 lacks information. What should happen is that VKB's symview comes up, but we currently have no Maliit plugin in the open that counts as HWKB-ready. | 06:57 |
| mikhas | So bug 50 is most likely related to https://bugs.maliit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42 (or wrong HWKB mapping). | 06:58 |
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| Sage | morning | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: do me a favour and run CE:* against Core-next: as i described in the pre-release mail :) | 07:27 |
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| Stskeeps | ie, additional repo | 07:27 |
| * Sage was "offline" the whole weekend ;) | 07:27 | |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:28 |
| Stskeeps | good choice ;) | 07:28 |
| iekku | Sage, ooh! good! | 07:29 |
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| Stskeeps | be aware that the might be a toolchain bug for kernels, cxl000 saw it on n8x0 | 07:36 |
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| Sage | where is the bug triage kept? | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | #mer-meeting | 07:48 |
| the-boss | Stskeeps: Error: "mer-meeting" is not a valid command. | 07:48 |
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| niqt | morning | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | ANNOUNCEMENT: Bug triage in #mer-meeting right now | 08:05 |
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| Sage | veskuh, Stskeeps: about the pinquery. It seems that if the ofono is not running the pinquery doesn't try to start it http://pastie.org/3039688 | 08:41 |
| Sage | in theory if there is message sent to ofono systemd should start it | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | so dbus activation isn't happening? | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | add that to bug report | 08:42 |
| Sage | seems so | 08:42 |
| Sage | I'll check more soon | 08:42 |
| Sage | need to enable ping query for my sim | 08:42 |
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| Sage | where is the meego-pinquery upstream atm? | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | was created by us | 08:55 |
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| Sage | how to enable pinquery from cmdline with ofono? :) | 09:01 |
| Sage | we don't have UI for that and I don't have other phone to put the normal sim than N900 atm :P | 09:01 |
| menghao | Hello guys | 09:04 |
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| veskuh | Sage: nothing provides pm-utils >= 1.2.2.1 needed by upower | 09:11 |
| Sage | hmmp | 09:11 |
| Sage | that is mer bug | 09:12 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ^ | 09:12 |
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| * Sage checks the packaging | 09:12 | |
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| Sage | veskuh: a moment. | 09:14 |
| faenil | morning hackers :P | 09:15 |
| Sage | faenil: morning | 09:16 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I would say we need to get pm-utils to next mer release. | 09:17 |
| Sage | http://pm-utils.freedesktop.org/ <- can someone reach this? | 09:18 |
| veskuh | Sage: nope | 09:18 |
| Sage | veskuh: install upower from this repo https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl when the repo finish building. | 09:20 |
| Sage | veskuh: it should bring the pm-utils as well from there. | 09:20 |
| veskuh | Sage: ok | 09:21 |
| menghao | anyone have any idea how to transfer file into memory card? | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | menghao: we usually use ssh/scp | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | over usbnetwork | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | or wifi | 09:22 |
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| menghao | stskeeps, my image wrote in memory card. | 09:23 |
| Sage | veskuh: available. | 09:23 |
| menghao | i connect USB, the .rpm file is only able to transfer into 32gb internal memory | 09:23 |
| Sage | veskuh: if that works I'll do some updates to those packages and need you to restest after that. | 09:23 |
| * Sage ponders how to verify if upower really needs pm-utils | 09:24 | |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/3039812 <- probably this solves that it does | 09:25 |
| veskuh | Sage: nothing provides usermode needed by pm-utils-1.4.1-1.1.armv7hl | 09:26 |
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| Sage | oh, come on :D | 09:27 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: what brings upower to mer core? | 09:27 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm? | 09:29 |
| Sage | o_0 usermode deps on gtk2... | 09:29 |
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| mikhas | could someone please check why my Mer bugzilla account isn't synced with Nemo bugzilla account? | 09:45 |
| mikhas | I can log in in the former, not the latter | 09:45 |
| mikhas | openismus.com, michaelh at | 09:45 |
| Stskeeps | i'll prod lbt about it, we're on two users now with same issue | 09:46 |
| mikhas | thanks | 09:47 |
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| Sage | veskuh: I removed usermode dep from pm-utils so it should be available soonish when it recompiles | 10:24 |
| veskuh | Sage: Ok. | 10:25 |
| Sage | veskuh: rdy | 10:26 |
| veskuh | Sage: Problem: nothing provides pciutils >= 2.2.1 needed by pm-utils-1.4.1-2.1.armv7hl | 10:29 |
| veskuh | Sage: but on the good news side, I already install upower (ignore depends) and at least loading indication started to work | 10:30 |
| Sage | hmmp... that is a mess :D | 10:32 |
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| Sage | apparently that is not needed dep as well. No calls to lspci setpci or other bins are made from the code | 10:34 |
| Sage | dep was added in 2006 ;) | 10:35 |
| Sage | so things might have changed since then :P | 10:35 |
| veskuh | :) | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, like man pages made in latex.. | 10:36 |
| Sage | ok, so only pm-utils is needed to mer core. Stskeeps that is acceptable I guess? | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | i think so | 10:37 |
| Sage | veskuh: I'll do update for the 1.5year old upower as well. If you could test if that still works. | 10:37 |
| Sage | I'll inform when it is available | 10:37 |
| veskuh | Sage: Sure | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: before that, can you add Core-next? | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | so we can see how many red 'failed' we get | 10:39 |
| Sage | ok | 10:40 |
| Sage | all archs? | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:40 |
| Sage | cobs down? | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | works for me | 10:43 |
| Sage | ah, now works again | 10:43 |
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| Sage | oh, hell. This trashes my repo names totally :D | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | just a temporary thing.. | 10:45 |
| Sage | yes, well it is a problems still in the future if similar things come | 10:45 |
| Sage | I'm working around no panic, but still need to think about this at some point | 10:46 |
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| veskuh | Sage: device connected to USB and: http://pastie.org/3040124 | 11:11 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: I'll submit the pm-utils to CE:Utils for now and pick it up from there when ready. That should work for us for now. | 11:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:17 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3678 Rejected promotion request | 11:26 |
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| Sage | araujo: !!!!!! | 12:04 |
| Sage | araujo: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=maliit-framework.spec&package=maliit-framework&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared&srcmd5=e41e088ed06aefc9df31bf331df04ad7 | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | what about it? | 12:04 |
| Sage | araujo: why maliit require maliit to build.... see the sdk package | 12:04 |
| Sage | it can't bootstrap from 0 as it depends itself :P | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | ahh.. | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:05 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: phonon part of Mer core? | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | no, think it's dead too | 12:08 |
| Sage | oh | 12:08 |
| Sage | ok | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | well, at least not part of qt5 | 12:08 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3680 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3680 | 12:30 |
| phaeron | Sage: there you go | 12:32 |
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| Sage | yey | 12:48 |
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| Sage | o_0 | 12:48 |
| Sage | phaeron: check https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3680 | 12:48 |
| Sage | err... nm. slow cobs | 12:48 |
| Sage | phaeron: what is with the 3679? | 12:49 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3680 Accepted promotion request | 12:52 |
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| Sage | veskuh, Stskeeps: meego-pinquery uses ofono-qt, it might be that the problem in the pin is there | 12:59 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3681 Rejected promotion request | 13:02 |
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| Sage | veskuh, Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3040541 | 13:04 |
| veskuh | So in case pinquery does first query to ofono we do not get reasonable results and in cases where somebody else has done first query then pinquery would work? | 13:09 |
| Sage | well, to me it seems that pinquery doesn't actually query any information from ofono but relies on informatino that has been sent by ofono earlier. | 13:10 |
| Sage | so in cases where the pinquery is visible ofono has already sent information that pinquery is enabled or something | 13:11 |
| veskuh | Ah, so defining the query better would result better results? | 13:11 |
| Sage | I think so yes. | 13:11 |
| phaeron | Sage: btw osc rebuild -f projectname | 13:11 |
| Sage | phaeron: only the failed packages not all :) | 13:12 |
| phaeron | Sage: hence the -f | 13:12 |
| Sage | ah | 13:12 |
| Sage | I though it was force :P | 13:12 |
| Sage | ok, makes sense. | 13:12 |
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| Sage | phaeron: thx :) | 13:12 |
| phaeron | yeah osc is not great at consistency , but we choose to accept it as it is :D | 13:13 |
| * Sage goes away for a while. | 13:13 | |
| phaeron | so which request did you want me to look at | 13:13 |
| phaeron | ok tyt | 13:13 |
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| * Sage is confused with the maliit | 13:52 | |
| Sage | how did it get in to our CE:MW:Shared :D | 13:52 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3682 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3682 | 13:56 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3682 Accepted promotion request | 14:00 |
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| Sage | veskuh: if you are up for it do zypper remove upower and remove my repo and update the meego-contextkit-battery-upower package | 14:09 |
| Sage | veskuh: ah, and zypper remove pm-utils | 14:09 |
| Sage | if you had that as well | 14:09 |
| veskuh | sure | 14:09 |
| Sage | Got the upower patch to the official repos | 14:09 |
| Sage | it is the old upower as the new failed to work so will go with that for now | 14:10 |
| veskuh | yep, makes sense | 14:10 |
| Sage | however upower is in mer core so it will be updated at some point anyway. Thus we need to look at it. Also it is currently 1.5years old package and behind 10 versions :) | 14:12 |
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| Sage | do we have anyone interested in power management that could have a look? | 14:12 |
| Sage | uh, forgot to mention the NEMO# in the SR' :/ | 14:13 |
| veskuh | Yep, it shows the charging correctly now, but I suspect that battery status is not shown correctly | 14:18 |
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| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3684 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3684 | 14:28 |
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| Sage | veskuh: ok | 14:29 |
| the-boss` | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3684 Accepted promotion request | 14:35 |
| Sage | veskuh: Merged and tagged new version for NEMO#7 in theme. | 14:36 |
| veskuh | tnx, I can upgrade the package. | 14:36 |
| Sage | ok, thx | 14:37 |
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| ilold | Stskeeps: Hi. did you consider patching meego kernel? | 18:03 |
| ilold | *nemo kernel | 18:04 |
| ilold | ...mer... | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | nemo ;) | 18:11 |
| ilold | good. was about to write "tizen?" ;-) | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | vaporware ;) | 18:13 |
| ilold | Stskeeps: you read the dmesg of maemo? | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | yes, if you see i/o errors there that's not good | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | did you have the patch? | 18:14 |
| ilold | No, it was maemo with stock kernel, no sdcard patch. | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, if you could show me the needed patch :) | 18:15 |
| ilold | ok, I'll browse the logs... | 18:15 |
| ilold | http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=19843&d=1304626965 the 2.6.28 version. | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | happen to know of one for .37? | 18:19 |
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| ilold | i might. I think I browsed a .37 version up somewhere around beagleboard... but would take some time finding. | 18:20 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, that'd make life easier | 18:21 |
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| marquiz_ | evening | 18:26 |
| lbt_ | mikhas: ping | 18:27 |
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| mikhas | lbt, pong | 18:28 |
| lbt | mikhas: hey... I see you have bz login issues | 18:28 |
| marquiz_ | Sage, Stskeeps: you remember what has been the original idea behind mce's displaymeego module? | 18:29 |
| mikhas | yeah | 18:29 |
| lbt | so... lets see what's going on | 18:29 |
| mikhas | hmph, perhaps today is the day where I try out Nemo on this netbook … | 18:30 |
| * mikhas feels adventurous | 18:30 | |
| lbt | *g* | 18:30 |
| Sage | marquiz_: no | 18:31 |
| lbt | mikhas: I need to go find the logs for login | 18:31 |
| lbt | mikhas: you can login to merproject.org - correct? | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | marquiz_: displaymeego? O_o | 18:32 |
| mikhas | lbt, correct | 18:32 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: yeah, there's a displaymeego module in mce, written by lamikr | 18:32 |
| marquiz_ | as a patch | 18:32 |
| marquiz_ | which is derived from the display module of v1.10.92 | 18:33 |
| marquiz_ | very hard to rebase ;) | 18:33 |
| lbt | mikhas: are you using username or email on nemomobile.org? | 18:34 |
| lbt | try both | 18:34 |
| lbt | I suspect you should use username | 18:34 |
| mikhas | doh | 18:35 |
| mikhas | f | 18:35 |
| mikhas | oops, sorry for that input method problem | 18:35 |
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| mikhas | :-D | 18:35 |
| mikhas | lbt, yes it does accept my username | 18:35 |
| lbt | so you can login? | 18:35 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps, Sage: it actually seems that it's the display module with dimming disabled and some other minor changes | 18:35 |
| mikhas | lbt, yup | 18:35 |
| mikhas | so it doesnt sync email? | 18:35 |
| lbt | yay... OK - I'll clarify that | 18:36 |
| lbt | yes, but it uses uid to login from ldap | 18:36 |
| lbt | I guess that's odd for BZ | 18:36 |
| mikhas | as long as it is known, it's fine | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | marquiz_: curious, that sounds like something they would have used on intel platforms | 18:37 |
| mikhas | though of course, if someone could hack up your BZ instance/LDAP to map email to username, that be even better | 18:37 |
| lbt | glad it was that easy ... Stskeeps ^^^ need to use username to login to nemomobile | 18:37 |
| lbt | mikhas: it may permit that now | 18:37 |
| lbt | logout and in | 18:37 |
| mikhas | lbt, nope | 18:38 |
| lbt | OK | 18:38 |
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| lbt | mikhas: was that logged as a bug on merproject? | 18:41 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: accorging to the changelog it was submitted as a fix to BMC#14738, i'll try without it, see what happens | 18:41 |
| marquiz_ | https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14738 | 18:41 |
| mikhas | lbt, nope, at least cant find any | 18:42 |
| mikhas | funny how Maliit has nearly as many bugs in open as Mer and Nemo | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | approximately same time we opened them | 18:45 |
| ilold | Stskeeps: 2.6.39 and 3.0 but no .37 patch found. well, but it is not a big patch anyway. one line? althought I am no good with patching by myself. | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | .39 i'd lke to see | 18:47 |
| ilold | will this do? http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2011-July/034029.html | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i think it will | 18:50 |
| ilold | fine, I'll read the logs. have to go. | 18:51 |
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| mikhas | hm, on Nemo installation: installation should happen on dedicated console. I did not see that it was expecting input from, due to messaging continue to flow thru display. | 18:55 |
| mikhas | And "This is the last chance to rollback, Are you sure you want to continue?" should default to NO, not YES. | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | on X86? | 18:55 |
| mikhas | yes | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | ok, yeah, installer might be a bit odd there | 18:56 |
| mikhas | are they different for ARM/X86? | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes, we don't have arm installers | 18:56 |
| mikhas | oh :-D | 18:56 |
| mikhas | But other than that, it's pleasantly painless. | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | cristi claimed he had 60fps+ in virtualbox on his machine with Nemo with our LLVMpipe implementation | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | talk about a nice potential development platform | 18:57 |
| mikhas | woah | 18:58 |
| mikhas | Hey, I can see Finland! | 18:58 |
| mikhas | Means it booted up properly, I guess. | 18:58 |
| Stskeeps | yes ;) | 18:58 |
| mikhas | err yes, it *is* fast | 18:58 |
| mikhas | OK, but Nemo Keyboard has rendering issues in software mode. | 18:59 |
| mikhas | => could be https://bugs.maliit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18 | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not confident the compositor is working right | 19:00 |
| mikhas | Get rid of it. | 19:01 |
| mikhas | Seriously, mcompositor is too heavily patched for N9 use cases. | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | still, not any good alternatives | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | not gles ones at least | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | and don't say anything involving clutter :) | 19:02 |
| mikhas | Yeah. | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: javier had issues too | 19:02 |
| lbt | I noted in his bug ... waiting for him to appear | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:03 |
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