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| marquiz | morn | 07:14 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 07:14 |
| marquiz | Stskeeps: one thing popped into my mind yesterday, when going to sleep | 07:16 |
| marquiz | we very old n950 kernel in nemo/moslo | 07:17 |
| marquiz | we have | 07:17 |
| marquiz | (regarding the slowness problem) | 07:17 |
| marquiz | where could i get the latest harmattan sources | 07:17 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 07:18 |
| dm8tbr | marquiz: I think they're public by now for 1.1 | 07:18 |
| dm8tbr | also there is a full source dump of a GPL DVD available | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta3/free/k/kernel/kernel_2.6.32-20113701.10+0m6.tar.gz | 07:18 |
| marquiz | k, thanks | 07:19 |
| marquiz | i'll try that later | 07:19 |
| marquiz | just thought that if some initializations are "wrong" in the old kernel, they may affect after kexec | 07:20 |
| Sage | morning | 07:20 |
| marquiz | morn | 07:21 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, always good to align that | 07:21 |
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| marquiz | vgrade: thanks for testing, again - sounds strange, again :/ | 07:24 |
| marquiz | vgrade: we really need to setup some over-the-irc debugging session ;) | 07:25 |
| marquiz | where we both attend simultaneously :D | 07:25 |
| Ronksu | morning | 07:26 |
| Sage | marquiz: as you have a good knowledge about the N950 you might be able to help me to reflash my device to clean so I could try your nemo things on it :) | 07:28 |
| marquiz | Sage: grab the latest fiasco for harmattan and emmc | 07:32 |
| marquiz | flasher -F <harm-img> -F <emm-img> -f --erase-mmc=quick | 07:33 |
| marquiz | Sage: or take the latest oneclickflasher | 07:35 |
| marquiz | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950-39-5/ | 07:35 |
| marquiz | (if you want, that can be easily unpacked to get the fiasco images out of that) | 07:36 |
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| * Sage tries the OCF again to get the error message | 08:01 | |
| dm8tbr | OCF sux because it does secure wipe which takes ages :) | 08:02 |
| dm8tbr | yarr, that looks right | 08:03 |
| Sage | veskuh: I have some updates to MTF if you are interested to test those | 08:03 |
| dm8tbr | ECHAN | 08:03 |
| veskuh | Sage: Sure, I'll try the new image first and get on those in the afternoon | 08:03 |
| Sage | OCF = Opel Club Finland http://www.ocf.fi/ ;) | 08:03 |
| Sage | veskuh: ok. I'll try to get rest of the things compiled properly before that :) | 08:04 |
| Sage | w00t: ping | 08:05 |
| veskuh | Sage: Will you put the n900 kernel available, somebody in twitter was missing that.. Apparently wants to flash instead of using sd card.. | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh: i have a potential fix for the tearing ready, though waiting for compile to finish (COBS is acting up) | 08:05 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: Excellent, hope it works :) | 08:05 |
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| * Stskeeps glances at the mer core build results | 08:07 | |
| Stskeeps | there's nothing like a morning where you wake up and glibc isn't building | 08:07 |
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| iekku | or you have fever and your band is having gig on same day | 08:10 |
| niqt | morning | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | morn niqt | 08:11 |
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| w00t | Sage: pong | 08:14 |
| Sage | veskuh: well, the kernel can be found from the boot partition of sd card. But I'll upload the kernel there today. | 08:14 |
| veskuh | Sage: sure, but regular users do not know how to do that and you cannot easily do it on win or mac | 08:15 |
| Sage | veskuh: actually boot partition is vfat so anyone should be able to do it :) | 08:16 |
| veskuh | Ah, true. | 08:16 |
| Sage | w00t: just wondering if you know what is this this patch about https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=new_test_definitions.patch&package=meegotouch-compositor&project=Project%3AMTF%3AUX&srcmd5=6823325d1ff69bcaae6204275ade5f04 | 08:17 |
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| Sage | There is just comment: - added new test definition xml update patch: new_test_definitions.patch | 08:19 |
| w00t | heh, not sure, but i'd guess it dates back to when people were actively trying to productize (and unit test) everything | 08:19 |
| Sage | marquiz: http://pastie.org/3025309 with the OCF | 08:22 |
| Sage | w00t: well, I'll just rebase that. | 08:25 |
| marquiz | Sage: unpack the flasher bin | 08:26 |
| marquiz | it's basically a shell script appended with a tarball | 08:26 |
| marquiz | head -n100 <ocf.bin> to see the shell script | 08:26 |
| marquiz | (100 or something lines) | 08:26 |
| marquiz | don't remember it out of my head | 08:26 |
| Sage | ah | 08:27 |
| marquiz | there you can see how to untar it | 08:27 |
| marquiz | and then youll find the fiasco binaries | 08:27 |
| Sage | how to cut easily the first 96 lines out | 08:28 |
| marquiz | with head or tail | 08:28 |
| Sage | hmmp... head can take only first lines, tail can take only last ones. So I need to count the lines after the first 96 | 08:29 |
| Sage | 5985538 | 08:30 |
| marquiz | tail -n -96 | 08:30 |
| marquiz | use tail and minus sign before the number of lines | 08:31 |
| Sage | ah | 08:31 |
| Sage | marquiz: this ^ :) | 08:31 |
| marquiz | ah :D | 08:31 |
| Sage | hmmp | 08:32 |
| marquiz | didn't work? | 08:32 |
| Sage | tail -n -96 didn't | 08:34 |
| Sage | tail -n 5985442 Linux_OCF_39-5_RM680-RM680-OEM1.bin > Linux_OCF_39-5_RM680-RM680-OEM1.tar | 08:35 |
| Sage | ^ works | 08:35 |
| marquiz | k | 08:36 |
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| Sage | so what next? | 08:36 |
| marquiz | try the one i gave earlier: | 08:38 |
| marquiz | flasher -F <harm-img> -F <emm-img> -f --erase-mmc=quick | 08:38 |
| marquiz | what happens with that? | 08:38 |
| Sage | marquiz: http://pastie.org/3025350 | 08:38 |
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| Sage | w00t: removed part of that patch and got it to compile :) | 08:43 |
| w00t | :) | 08:44 |
| Sage | it patched line that was removed from newer version so I guessed it is not needed anymore :P | 08:44 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=meegotouch-controlpanelapplets&project=Project%3AMTF%3AUX&repository=CE_UX_MTF_i586 | 08:44 |
| Sage | ^ So what do we do continue disabling the mce or enable it? | 08:44 |
| Sage | I would prefer enabling it as then some controlpanel applets might start to work | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | we need mce in some form, even on x86, but ideally we should get rid of it in longer term | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | and replace with something more generic | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | ofcourse i've been saying that for almost 4 years now, even in Old Mer, but the generic initiatives always stalled :/ | 08:45 |
| Sage | :/ | 08:48 |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: not an interesting problem to solve (and lack of understanding about what the problem is), probably | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | i think to some extent policy framework could replace it | 08:51 |
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| Sage | marquiz: you worked with mce and dsme at some point right? Interested to do an update for those for us? :) | 08:51 |
| marquiz | didn't do virtually anything for mce | 08:55 |
| marquiz | can check dsme, though | 08:55 |
| marquiz | i should update the powerkey plugin to cope with systemd, anyway | 08:55 |
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| dcthang | Sage: for mce what do you want to update? | 08:57 |
| marquiz | Sage, Stskeeps: or, are there plans for better way for poweroff than the dsme hack? | 08:58 |
| marquiz | i.e. ui | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not sure if systemui can do it properly these days, but the emergency poweroff is always nice when you screw up | 08:58 |
| marquiz | Stskeeps: well, that's true | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | which we do quite a lot | 09:03 |
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| Sage | dcthang: well our mce is so old that we should really update it to newer version to get better compatibility with MTF | 09:04 |
| Sage | ah... and well the applets don't compile against the current MCE :) | 09:05 |
| Sage | displaybusinesslogic.cpp:350:22: error: 'MCE_COLOR_PROFILE_CHANGE_REQ' was not declared in this scope | 09:05 |
| marquiz | Sage: i can update mce, but don't probably find too much time in testing/debugging problems | 09:06 |
| Sage | dcthang: I would have updated the mce already, but we have 12 patches on top and I don't think they apply nicely | 09:06 |
| dcthang | okay, nice info | 09:07 |
| Sage | marquiz: MCE bug https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35 | 09:08 |
| Sage | marquiz: DSME bug https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36 | 09:08 |
| Sage | marquiz: and both of those should be sent to Project:MTF:UX (we have one in N9xx hardware adaptation as well but I will move it there when ready) | 09:09 |
| Sage | marquiz: and thx :) | 09:09 |
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| marquiz | Sage: np, let's see when i have the time to do those | 09:10 |
| marquiz | not today, at least ;) | 09:10 |
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| Stskeeps | veskuh: rpm -Uvh http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/stskeeps:/branches:/Mer:/fake:/Core:/armv7l/Mer_Corex_armv7hl/armv7hl/xorg-x11-server-1.10.1-3.1.armv7hl.rpm http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/stskeeps:/branches:/Mer:/fake:/Core:/armv7l/Mer_Corex_armv7hl/armv7hl/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-setuid-1.10.1-3.1.armv7hl.rpm ... | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | ... http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/stskeeps:/branches:/Mer:/fake:/Core:/armv7l/Mer_Corex_armv7hl/armv7hl/xorg-x11-server-common-1.10.1-3.1.armv7hl.rpm http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/stskeeps:/branches:/Mer:/fake:/Core:/armv7l/Mer_Corex_armv7hl/armv7hl/xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx-0.4.0-7.1.armv7hl.rpm | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | ignore the ...'s | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:56 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: booting.. | 10:00 |
| * Stskeeps prays | 10:00 | |
| veskuh | boots fine | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | but does it fix the tearing issue? | 10:03 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: The issue is still there. | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | @$%@ | 10:03 |
| * Stskeeps grabs n950 | 10:05 | |
| veskuh | Easiest way to see is to take a widgestgallery and open list | 10:05 |
| veskuh | scroll on portrait | 10:05 |
| veskuh | in the middle of screen you should see the issue | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | it's same graphics driver as we have on pr 1.1 so im really astonished | 10:06 |
| w00t | xorg issues? | 10:06 |
| veskuh | it is almost like it is not doing fullscreen updates | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | maybe kernel upgrade needed too | 10:08 |
| veskuh | there shouldnt have been changes in these things lately these kind of issues have been ok in Harmattan side long time already | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | did it always tear? | 10:10 |
| veskuh | I think in summer/spring it did not, but then I mostly used n900 | 10:11 |
| veskuh | meego ce that is | 10:11 |
| marquiz | Stskeeps: i put the latest h kernel in home:marquiz:n950:kernel | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | we should test with that | 10:11 |
| marquiz | Stskeeps: had to disable v4l2 patches, though as they didn't apply | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 10:11 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: but fall release we had tearing | 10:11 |
| marquiz | Stskeeps: i didn't really have more time than to upload new sources ;) | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | yea, that's fine | 10:12 |
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| veskuh | On Harmattan if I scroll widgetsgallery list I get FPS=59 on nemo varies between 60-90 | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | that sounds like vsync is disabled | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | can i see your powervr.ini? | 10:16 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/3025653 | 10:18 |
| veskuh | looks fine to me | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:18 |
| rantom | ho | 10:20 |
| rantom | or morning | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | ho ho ho rantom | 10:20 |
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| rantom | :) | 10:20 |
| rantom | I was checking the bugzilla for Nemo and noticed that there's no premade description for bugs yet? | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 10:21 |
| rantom | Ok. So the best option would be to copy one from another bug? | 10:22 |
| veskuh | rantom: yep, that is what i do | 10:22 |
| rantom | Yeah. Also, the bugzilla seems to save, for some reason, my name when autosaving login credential in Chromium, instead of the assigned nick | 10:23 |
| rantom | Don't know whether it's a bug in bugzilla or in the browser | 10:23 |
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| veskuh | increased parambuffersize but wierdly fps in widgetsgallery dropped to <30FPS | 10:34 |
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| veskuh | Sage: you had some new packages to test? | 11:52 |
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| Sage | veskuh: yes in Project:MTF:MW and Project:MTF:UX | 11:54 |
| veskuh | Ok, I'll add the repos and upgrade whatever they have | 11:54 |
| Sage | veskuh: thx. If nothing breaks that is good :) | 11:55 |
| Sage | veskuh: at least following should be updated: clean-device, meegotouch-applauncherd, meegotouchcp-region, meegotouchcp-language, meegotouch-systemui, meegotouch-home, meegotouch-compositor, meegotouch-theme, meegotouch-controlpanel | 11:56 |
| veskuh | 62 packages to upgrade. | 12:00 |
| veskuh | argh, my n950 crashed in middle of zypper update.. | 12:07 |
| veskuh | is there a comman to rebuild rpm db ? | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | rpm --rebuilddb | 12:08 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: no help. http://pastie.org/3026006 | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | rm /var/lib/rpm__* | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | aer | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | rm /var/lib/rpm/__* | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | and try again | 12:10 |
| veskuh | better, now its doing something | 12:11 |
| veskuh | and I can continue with zypper update. thanks Stskeeps! | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | np | 12:12 |
| veskuh | hmm.. apparently updating dsme, makes n950 boot | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 12:13 |
| veskuh | Sage: the theme is not ok, on MTF apps the menubar has moved in harmattan style to bottom of page and is missing graphics. It's missing button for menu and the corners of the bar. also the background seems to be transpareent and it instead should be in some color, otherwise it looks bad | 12:35 |
| veskuh | Sage: I guess we could fix those just by adding few pics to -ce theme | 12:35 |
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| Sage | veskuh: ok. I hope someone could look at that -ce theme or something. Or maybe we could remove the -ce theme and use the darko as default. | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | didn't we already agree on darko as default? | 12:50 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: yes | 12:50 |
| veskuh | Sage: those are not in darko either | 12:51 |
| veskuh | Sage: I think we are missing something like 5-6 quite simple images only. I can take a look at monday if I can make them. | 12:52 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: I even made a bug about changing the default: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41 | 12:53 |
| * Sage is the only one that is getting those bug mails atm. by default. | 12:54 | |
| Stskeeps | i get pestered weekly on my assigned bugs | 12:54 |
| veskuh | Well since I've filed 95% of the bugs, I'm also getting them. | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, we have triage monday morning | 12:54 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: at what time the triage was again? | 13:15 |
| xruxa | veskuh: I think we need to wait for Daniel to release the rest of the Blanco bits to base theme. The CSS alone is not enough. Then it should be all good for all derived themes (CE/Darko) | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: 10 finnish | 13:16 |
| * Sage adds notification | 13:18 | |
| veskuh | xruxa: well, yep. Based on widgetsgallery we are not missing much to have working theme. Maybe for components we are missing more but you have covered the most important stuff in darko. | 13:19 |
| xruxa | Anyway, if the rest of Blanco is not coming soon and if we insist on the be base, I could look into patching that in CE/Darko too | 13:20 |
| xruxa | "insist on the NEW base" ^ | 13:21 |
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| faenil | good afternoon :) | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | afternoon | 14:37 |
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| ilold | so, I just tried nemo 15.12... I don't know why I even bother. It is unbearable slow, asks about stop this application and that process, started applications show nothing but a blank space or other display errors. most things won't even start only the icon shows a bit of animation. | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | what device did you try it on | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | what class SD card? | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | what method of booting? | 15:37 |
| ilold | n900, class 4, u-boot | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | can you take a picture of the issue of the started applications issue? | 15:39 |
| Stskeeps | keep in mind those releases are also test releases currently and we just changed to a new image creator | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | so things might break | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | my experience on earlier releases don't match with what you experience, so it must be a bug :) | 15:41 |
| ilold | I could do that, but I don't think that my case I much diffent from other n900. | 15:42 |
| ilold | also some firmware doesn't load | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that one is normal | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | but your case might be special, bad SD card, wrong way of writing the image, or an actual bug | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | so that's why i'm asking you to collect some information and ideally put it on our bugtracker :) | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | bugs.nemomobile.org | 15:44 |
| ilold | I don't mind to collect some info, or pictures but I don't like to register on some bugtracker. so, I'll post in this channel if you can accept that. | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | basically it helps our workflow and assures we keep track of the issue | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway, ok, just get me a picture of the issue | 15:48 |
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| ilold | random... ok, retried and the it stoped booting halfway and I was back at u-boot screen. another boot, and a fsck check later it boot again. this time complete. it is still slow, but now apps are starting. the stop this process question still come up but go away this time... | 16:03 |
| ilold | also the the blank screen now goes away and "packages" application starts. | 16:05 |
| ilold | there is no symbol for terminal, only a red box. | 16:06 |
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| ilold | there are "flashbacks" of older applications (ended) when starting a new one. | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | that sounds like a bad sd card | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | i have to go, bbl | 16:09 |
| ilold | happens to fast take a picture. | 16:09 |
| ilold | now terminal comes up.... yeah.... bad sdcard... I/O errors all over the place. | 16:10 |
| ilold | damn | 16:10 |
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| vgrade | marquiz, ping me if you have an hour over the weekend for some testing | 16:19 |
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| beford | hey, I've been trying to boot the image from nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-testing-0.20111208.2.CE.2011-12-15.1.ks but I keep getting a black screen after the bootsplash | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | does the older releases work fine? | 18:45 |
| beford | which one should I try | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | whatever came before 12-15 | 18:46 |
| beford | its the first nemo / mer testing I am doing | 18:46 |
| beford | ok let me build the image | 18:46 |
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| beford | ok building 2011-12-01.2 | 18:49 |
| beford | 478 packages to be installed, 478 packages gotten from cache, 0 packages to be downloaded | 18:52 |
| beford | so, its using the same packages from 12-15 ? | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | well.. | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | we don't really snapshot nemo releases | 18:53 |
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| beford | ok so I have to use a different folder for the packages cache or clean it, right | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't matter, but does the images we build not work? | 18:57 |
| beford | not sure, I used to build images for meego and they worked great. I'll download the prebuilt image to check it | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | we might have screwed something up then | 18:59 |
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| beford | downloaded image boots ok Stskeeps | 19:46 |
| beford | :( | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:47 |
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| beford_nnemp | :q | 19:53 |
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| Stskeeps | :) | 19:54 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, was that last build was with the new mic? | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:19 |
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| vgrade | could be why beford image failed? | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | possible | 20:21 |
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| psYchotic1 | Hello everyone! | 22:13 |
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| psYchotic1 | I was just trying to flash my N900 with nemo 12-15.1, but I keep running into trouble | 22:14 |
| psYchotic1 | Currently, I have to start with getting a NUL character from my N900 to the de-installer script (otherwise it'll just hang right there). Then, when the image has been uploaded, I have to do that again. Finally, after the image has been copied, I get an error about "bz2" not being available. | 22:17 |
| psYchotic1 | am I doing something terribly wrong? | 22:17 |
| psYchotic1 | oh, and I'm flashing the emmc (just in case it wasn't clear yet) | 22:18 |
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| psYchotic1 | is there even anyone currently available? | 22:44 |
| psYchotic1 | That's too bad =( | 22:48 |
| Venemo | psYchotic1, patience is a virtue | 22:54 |
| Venemo | psYchotic1, see http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/GettingStarted to see how to do it for your N900 | 22:55 |
| Venemo | good night & cheers! :) | 22:55 |
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| psYchotic1 | Venemo: just in case you'll check the logs: thanks, but I'm specifically trying to get it on the eMMC =) | 22:58 |
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