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| vgrade | marquiz, Stskeeps, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T500ONx62ro | 01:19 |
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| merlin1991 | vgrade: HOW? :D | 01:33 |
| merlin1991 | I can't even get my n9 to boot harmattan with a different kernel | 01:33 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:39 |
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| merlin1991 | morning :D | 05:50 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 05:56 |
| merlin1991 | since I saw that youtube video with nemo on n9 yesterday I suppose one *can* boot unsigned kernels on the n9? | 05:58 |
| merlin1991 | any idea why mine doesn't let me do it? | 05:58 |
| Stskeeps | it is possible to boot unsigned kernels | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | except when you have security lock on | 05:59 |
| merlin1991 | what is the security lock, and how do I check if it's on? | 05:59 |
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| dm8tbr | password lock screen | 06:00 |
| merlin1991 | that one is off (there is a pw set though) | 06:00 |
| merlin1991 | because I don't get past initial nokia logo without any animation | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | pw set might be a problem too though | 06:00 |
| merlin1991 | it only changes to the battery loading indication (white sign) after some time | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | but there's a timing issue when loading using flasher on some N9s | 06:01 |
| merlin1991 | and if I unplug usb it just "powers" off | 06:01 |
| merlin1991 | so I should try actually flashing? | 06:01 |
| dm8tbr | sounds like low battery | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | nah, i'd wait for proper instructions | 06:01 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah, low battery | 06:01 |
| merlin1991 | nope not low battery | 06:01 |
| merlin1991 | almost full battery | 06:02 |
| merlin1991 | also tried it when harmattan told me that it's completely full battery | 06:02 |
| merlin1991 | so I made sure it's not battery, but apart from that I can't debug it any further since flasher claims "success" but nothing happens afterwards | 06:03 |
| dcthang | When I open my camera on N950, it's black. Running meego-handset-camera I got this log http://pastebin.com/YBHQGuk8 | 06:06 |
| dcthang | checked all packages for camera are fine. | 06:07 |
| dcthang | Do not why it says "Resource temporarily unavailable: libomap3camd is still in use" | 06:09 |
| dcthang | might be it makes camera outs of order | 06:09 |
| dcthang | checked which process using libomap3camd and killed it. It looks like the bug not come from that | 06:20 |
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| dcthang | someone knows this message: MInputContext: unable to create D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/meego-im-uiserver/imserver_dbus: No such file or directory | 06:57 |
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| Sage | morning | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 07:10 |
| vgrade | monring | 07:11 |
| * Sage starts fighting with mic. | 07:14 | |
| Sage | oh, darn. | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 07:19 |
| Sage | there is no tarball option for fs in this mic | 07:20 |
| Sage | so well it does the n950 image without tarball to the disk :) | 07:20 |
| * Sage starts patching | 07:22 | |
| Sage | oh, hell no | 07:39 |
| * Sage thinks the writer of this new mic was eating, drinking or smoking something while doing it. | 07:41 | |
| Stskeeps | oh? | 07:41 |
| Sage | https://github.com/jfding/mic/blob/master/plugins/imager/raw_plugin.py vs https://github.com/jfding/mic/blob/master/plugins/imager/loop_plugin.py | 07:42 |
| Sage | see the similarity in do_create? | 07:42 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 07:42 |
| Sage | I can show the diff http://pastie.org/3019755 | 07:43 |
| Sage | and wait there is more!! | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 07:43 |
| Sage | it is same in all of these https://github.com/jfding/mic/tree/master/plugins/imager | 07:44 |
| Sage | c... p.... | 07:44 |
| Sage | can you fill the blanks? :) | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 07:44 |
| Sage | was about to add new feature so well... need to copypaste the code to 5 files :P | 07:44 |
| Sage | ok, it looked good until I need to touch it :/ | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | refactor? | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:46 |
| Sage | need to study more what is this all about as it doesn't look very promissing atm. | 07:46 |
| Sage | anyway they are all inherited from one base class so that is good | 07:47 |
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| Stskeeps | morn xruxa | 08:11 |
| xruxa | morning | 08:12 |
| * xruxa pondering Fosdem, after all it is just 200km away | 08:12 | |
| Stskeeps | i'd hope you would come, we hope to get a lot of mer/nemo people together :) | 08:12 |
| xruxa | We should have all our people using Nemo on N9x0 as their primary phone that day at conference :) | 08:15 |
| xruxa | at least I plan doing so | 08:15 |
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| marquiz | morn | 09:06 |
| marquiz | vgrade: cool! | 09:06 |
| marquiz | the moslo obviously worked, finally ;) | 09:06 |
| marquiz | vgrade: did you try dual-booting to harmattan | 09:07 |
| marquiz | Stskeeps: about the sluggishness of harmattan i talked about yesterday: with some quick further testing it really seems to be related to kexec | 09:13 |
| marquiz | i "corrupted" the original harmattan kernel image a bit so that it booted in open mode | 09:13 |
| marquiz | result: performance was on par with "secure-booted" harmattan | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 09:14 |
| marquiz | yep, nemo performance should be investigated, too | 09:16 |
| marquiz | booting to nemo without kexec should be fairly easy with my modified moslo | 09:17 |
| marquiz | just pivot_root from the initrd | 09:17 |
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| mikhas | marquiz, malice or stupidity? | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | probably just a warm reboot issue | 09:20 |
| marquiz | yep, don't really know where the problem lies, though :/ | 09:21 |
| marquiz | i just have a fear it's sgx | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | check dmesg? | 09:22 |
| marquiz | mm, gotta do a dmesg comparison when i have time | 09:23 |
| marquiz | i examined that yesterday but didn't spot anyting, gotta do a real diff, i guess ;) | 09:24 |
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| Sage | n900 and n950 images are buiding now properly with mic but x86 has problems | 09:38 |
| Sage | I managed to build one yesterday though so pondering what happened | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | are you sure your repo urls are correct? | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | oh | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | arch=i686 | 09:39 |
| Sage | :headdesk: | 09:39 |
| Sage | there it is :D | 09:39 |
| Sage | --arch=i586 doesn't work | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | glibc is i686 for god know what reasons | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | it's on my list to make it be iatom or something | 09:40 |
| Sage | ok, now I have only naming issue with files and after that everything should be set. | 09:43 |
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| Sage | or hmm :P | 09:44 |
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| vgrade | marquiz, a few issues with the testing last night | 10:28 |
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| vgrade | marquiz, after flashing kernel the partition was only created on second boot | 10:30 |
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| vgrade | marquiz, when rebooting from Nemo to check dual boot function partition was not found, so device bootlooped | 10:31 |
| vgrade | marquiz, flashed stock again and I'm back to Harmattan | 10:32 |
| vgrade | marquiz, great work btw | 10:32 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps I used the lastest N950 Nemo image , do we need a N9 specific build? | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | not really | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | well, depends on what's needed for marquiz's moslo i guess? | 10:34 |
| araujo | morning | 10:35 |
| * araujo wonders if we are expecting a new release today | 10:36 | |
| marquiz | vgrade: hmm, got to get back to that | 10:45 |
| marquiz | vgrade: one thing, actually (that i probably have to change in that) is that it doesn't try to repartition unless you have the usb cable connected | 10:47 |
| marquiz | but sounds very strange that it didn't find the nemo partition after reboot... | 10:48 |
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| niqt | morning | 10:50 |
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| Sage | araujo: yes new release is expected today | 11:23 |
| Sage | I'm currently trying to get mic fixed so that I can build the release with it. | 11:24 |
| araujo | hi there Sage \o/ | 11:24 |
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| Sage | only one minor thing needs fix and then it should be ready :) | 11:26 |
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| vgrade | marquiz, I will try again later, it was a late one last night | 11:41 |
| faenil | congratz marquiz :) | 11:41 |
| faenil | and good morning people :) | 11:42 |
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| marquiz | vgrade: k, if you retry, take an updated kernel-moslo-n9 from the repo | 11:46 |
| vgrade | marquiz, k | 11:46 |
| vgrade | marquiz, the change to do partitioning once only | 11:47 |
| marquiz | nope, i spotted a flaw in backuping the harmattan kernel | 11:48 |
| * Sage thinks he finally got the mic working properly | 11:54 | |
| Sage | and still have about 2 hours time to spare to the orignal estimate :) | 11:55 |
| Sage | Probably good time for a late lunch now. | 11:55 |
| xruxa | +1 | 11:55 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: https://github.com/saukko/mic/commit/6d189fc9acd533f99803045af5eac8e998a1d746 ;) | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:01 |
| xruxa | Why did you remove that "to be obsolete" part? ;) | 12:02 |
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| Sage | http://pastie.org/3020668 \o/ | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | woo | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | meego-images/ ? | 12:11 |
| phaeron | cool | 12:11 |
| Sage | njust my own tmp dir | 12:12 |
| Sage | veskuh: thx, I though that NB# meant nokia bug so didn't even think about nemo there :P | 12:14 |
| Sage | araujo: we refer to nemo bugs with NEMO# | 12:14 |
| Sage | phaeron: this is just stupid https://github.com/saukko/mic/commit/ec03ff608750a5f1e50bcc82f72289187a1dfdc6 :P | 12:16 |
| araujo | Sage, ok | 12:16 |
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| * Sage ponders if something happened to tablets-dev as he can't login | 12:53 | |
| Sage | wow, what... | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 12:53 |
| phaeron | Sage: it's like mic2 all over again | 12:57 |
| Sage | phaeron: it is a bit better than mic2 but there are things that doesn't look nice :/ | 12:57 |
| Sage | the thing that is better is that it can build image without any meego bootstrap at least it seems so. Need to verify though if there is some left of from my old mic2 installation | 12:58 |
| marquiz | Sage: i guess that's ssort of the "old" mic before mic2 got developed out of that | 13:03 |
| marquiz | finally somebody figured out that mic2 is a totally unmaintainable mess ;) | 13:03 |
| Sage | marquiz: really? :) | 13:04 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: no updates :/ | 13:10 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: ok I'll sharpen the pointy stick | 13:11 |
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| marquiz | Sage: not entirely sure, but so it seems ;) | 13:20 |
| marquiz | look at the name :D | 13:21 |
| marquiz | and comparing the code to the old moblin image creator, it's VERY similar | 13:21 |
| * araujo thought we would have "tic" now instead of "mic" | 13:22 | |
| marquiz | or lic(k) | 13:22 |
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| dm8tbr | seems it's more 'suck'? ;) | 13:23 |
| marquiz | :D | 13:24 |
| marquiz | Some Unmaintainable Creator Krap | 13:24 |
| niqt | who prepare plasma-two iamge based on mer? | 13:25 |
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| rnovacek | niqt: try asking mdfe_ at #mer | 13:26 |
| niqt | k | 13:27 |
| niqt | ok | 13:27 |
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| dm8tbr | Sage: pointy stick applied | 13:34 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: :) | 13:34 |
| kimju | hmm.. tic, as in terminfo compiler? | 13:35 |
| * dm8tbr wonders if there would be optional GIF target in TIC | 13:39 | |
| dm8tbr | (warning, bad pun ahead!) | 13:39 |
| dm8tbr | TitzenImageCreator ;) | 13:39 |
| Sage | ;) | 14:04 |
| Sage | w00t: I'm updating some MTF package and also changing the packaging so that it uses the tarball that is got from the gitorious.org tag link | 14:24 |
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| w00t | Sage: i don't see much point for that - since that's basically generated the same way I do them (git archive), but by all means, if it's easier :) | 14:26 |
| Sage | well I used to do uncompress compress previously :P | 14:29 |
| w00t | hm? | 14:29 |
| w00t | https://github.com/rburchell/scripts/blob/master/tarball.rb | 14:30 |
| w00t | so, from a git checkout, run e.g. tarball.rb --outdir=~/code/meego/obs/home:w00t:branches:CE:Apps/qmlcalc --tag-prefix=meego/ | 14:31 |
| w00t | it'll search for the newest tag prefixed with meego/ in that git checkout, and dump a tarball in --outdir | 14:31 |
| Sage | don't want to checkout all of them to my disk | 14:32 |
| w00t | there's also robopackage, which can handle rebasing a branch of patches and dumping them, and automating a few other steps | 14:32 |
| w00t | it's not as smart as i'd like, i don't have time to make it smarter | 14:32 |
| w00t | sure | 14:32 |
| w00t | just showing you how i work :P | 14:33 |
| Sage | w00t: and thanks for that you always learn things from the way others do them :) | 14:41 |
| Sage | So updates for: clean-device, meegotouch-applauncherd, meegotouchcp-region, meegotouch-controlpanelapplets, meegotouchcp-language, meegotouch-systemui, meegotouch-home, meegotouch-compositor, meegotouch-theme and meegotouch-controlpanel are in my TODO | 15:03 |
| Sage | some of those are already ready for testing in Project:MTF:MW and Project:MTF:UX if someone is interested to test. | 15:04 |
| Sage | w00t: we would need libmeegotouch update and libmlocale pagckaging probably. | 15:05 |
| w00t | yes - has anything dragged in libmlocale yet? | 15:05 |
| w00t | i expect mtf relies on it now, or maybe they still have a seperate copy.. | 15:05 |
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| Sage | nothing dragged in so far | 15:07 |
| Sage | ah, also libcontentaction update is available | 15:07 |
| Sage | o_0 | 15:08 |
| Sage | libcontentaction.changes is empty | 15:08 |
| w00t | heh... | 15:08 |
| Sage | ah, only on my comp :P | 15:08 |
| Sage | we really should upstream more patches. Need to start rebasing some again | 15:12 |
| Sage | ok... we should rewrite patches in such form that they can be upstreamed :P | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: did you test it boots? | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | out of curiousity | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:19 |
| Sage | on n900 and ia32 | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:20 |
| Sage | my n950 is still well not working :) | 15:20 |
| Sage | and well, I tested image or two before that that it worked. | 15:21 |
| Sage | created all images today with the new mic so should be ok | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | ok, just afraid since you were doing with mic :) | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:21 |
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| Sage | well, if something is wrong new release tomorrow :P | 15:21 |
| * araujo downloads | 15:21 | |
| Sage | does mce work at all on ia32? | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | probably not well | 15:22 |
| Sage | well lets ask this way. Can we drop our mce removal patches from MTF components? :) | 15:23 |
| Sage | does it break ia32 if it is there | 15:23 |
| Sage | http://gizmodo.com/5867689/this-pyro-board-display-uses-tiny-flames-as-pixels :) | 15:27 |
| mikhas | mlocale is optional though | 15:28 |
| Sage | ok, time to head home. | 15:28 |
| mikhas | for LMT, ./configure -no-libmlocale should work | 15:29 |
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| araujo | mm | 15:50 |
| araujo | Sage, where is the kernel for the new image? | 15:50 |
| Venemo | are the x86 Nemo images working nicely on an Ideapad? | 15:51 |
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| Sage | araujo: ah, forgot to include kernels. | 16:16 |
| Sage | Is someone still using those? | 16:16 |
| * araujo is | 16:19 | |
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| dm8tbr | Sage: email, m( | 16:34 |
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| dm8tbr | Sage: ping! | 16:47 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: oh, come on | 16:56 |
| Sage | so we can't distribute binaries as user must click to be able to use the codes | 16:56 |
| Sage | well that doesn't prevent us using it but we can't redistribute and do images with it or do rpm packages in obs | 16:57 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: you know better how components fit together. can you answer that mail? If not I'll ask you a few questions and try to come up with something. | 16:59 |
| Sage | 2.3 Licensee shall not, and shall not permit any third party to alter, change, modify, adapt, decompile, disassemble, compile or reverse engineer or remove or circumvent any protection or other restrictive technology mechanism of the the Software and/or any and all parts thereof, or otherwise use, sub-license, assign or pledge the Software and/or any and all parts thereof other than what is expressly permitted in accordance with this Agreement. | 16:59 |
| Sage | _compile_ :) | 16:59 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: the fun bit is: it's in public git! no clickthrough crap! | 17:00 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: yes | 17:00 |
| Sage | What does that compile mean in there btw :) | 17:01 |
| * dm8tbr doesn't have the slightest clue | 17:01 | |
| Sage | so I can download the code but not compile? :) | 17:01 |
| * Sage is confused | 17:01 | |
| dm8tbr | no, the header says you're not allowed to see it unless you work for STE! | 17:01 |
| Sage | :P | 17:02 |
| Sage | I think someone haven't realized that it is not behind any click's | 17:02 |
| dm8tbr | possible | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | the linaro hwpacks are click-through too | 17:02 |
| dm8tbr | also their debian file claims it's BSD... | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | never rely on debian/copyright | 17:03 |
| dm8tbr | which means that the resulting package claims it's BSD | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:03 |
| Sage | http://www.igloocommunity.org/gitweb/ and especially http://www.igloocommunity.org/gitweb/?p=bsp/b2r2lib.git;a=blob;f=Makefile;h=301ef4cf9f6d2a7da13b29d27b06aed1e1473096;hb=HEAD Ps. don't click if you don't want to break the law :P | 17:03 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: remember my first mail 'I preemptively apologize...' | 17:04 |
| mikhas | damn, I just broke Swedish law I guess | 17:04 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: yes ;) | 17:04 |
| mikhas | "This code is ST-Ericsson proprietary and confidential." | 17:05 |
| dm8tbr | yep | 17:05 |
| mikhas | someone should add "and public." | 17:05 |
| dm8tbr | baaad mikhas! | 17:05 |
| mikhas | interesting commit messages | 17:07 |
| mikhas | as if each commit had to be approved by legal | 17:07 |
| mikhas | I know some other project where that worked really great | 17:07 |
| dm8tbr | I highly suspect that to be the case | 17:07 |
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| dm8tbr | Sage: you're apparently allowed to compile it if it's in accordance with 2.1, but how do you guarantee that in OBS? anyway IANAL | 17:26 |
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| dm8tbr | Sage: I'm not sure if I understand this correctly, how and where does this b2r2lib fit in? is it later a part of xorg? | 17:29 |
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| Sage | dm8tbr: that b2rlib is needed to compile xorg-x11-drv-ste which is BSD | 17:43 |
| dm8tbr | which is probably not license incompatible, but most inconvenient because you can't just put the b2r2lib code in e.g. OBS, but have to upload binaries separately and somehow enforce all the licensing terms they want to impose | 17:45 |
| * araujo wonders if Sage will get kernel images | 17:46 | |
| Sage | araujo: you can extract the kernel from the boot partition of sd card if you want it is the same one | 17:47 |
| araujo | Sage, all right | 17:47 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: how have we solved this in the SGX context? | 17:47 |
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| Sage | dm8tbr: well sgx driver is proprietary and it is provided as binary blob | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: other angle.. work with igloocommunity to provide a mer hwpack | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | they can distribute from there, so.. | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | i know they've done meego before, so | 18:12 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: the thing is that all of it should be bsd and available it is just that someone is lazy and haven't fixed the license text | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 18:16 |
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| Sage | I would think that it would be easier to just change the license, I have it all ready one click away just need the license fix :P | 18:17 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=b2r2lib&project=home%3Asage%3AMer%3Au8500&repository=Mer_Core_armv7hl | 18:18 |
| Sage | ;) | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | btw, you're going to get a lot of emails about failed builds | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | just ignore them | 18:19 |
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| Sage | araujo: so you are using the kernel for booting? | 20:24 |
| Sage | need to add to my todo to fix that kernel not there thing for n900. Haven't used it myself for a very long time so didn't notice it missing :/ | 20:24 |
| araujo | Sage, yes, .. though well, I can take it from /boot now | 20:29 |
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| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: made a quick dmesg diff for n950: non-secure (direct boot) vs. kexec | 21:32 |
| marquiz_ | http://pastie.org/3023089 | 21:32 |
| marquiz_ | the only thing i spotted are the many "disabling unused clock" lines in the non-kexec -boot | 21:33 |
| marquiz_ | wonder how they might make a difference... | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | onenand_wait errors look odd | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah | 21:36 |
| marquiz_ | yeah, i have some problems in onenand ;) | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | my mother in law poured tea over my n950 by accident, i wonder what kind of consequences that'll have in the long term | 21:39 |
| marquiz_ | and other thing, boot time with kexec is ~2min15s | 21:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:40 |
| marquiz_ | non-kexec is like 45s | 21:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's a bit bizarre | 21:40 |
| marquiz_ | yep | 21:40 |
| marquiz_ | really feels like ram or emmc is running at half rate or smth ;) | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | iozone benchmark, maybe | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | like we did for n90 | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | 0 | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | marquiz_: there was some kind of issue about frequency of emmc, are you using same version kernel on both? | 21:42 |
| marquiz_ | yeah, i was thinking the same | 21:42 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, i should really go crash in bed | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 21:43 |
| marquiz_ | same here | 21:43 |
| marquiz_ | c ya | 21:43 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps, long term consequences for the N950 or the mother in law | 21:55 |
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| vgrade | marquiz, tested new zImage, new partition gets created, exported over usb, Nemo written, pull usb, message about alt os recognised and press vol to boot. All looks ok but it does not boot into Nemo | 22:16 |
| vgrade | flashed back to stock ok, trying yesterdays kernel again | 22:19 |
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