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| Stskeeps | does sound work for you guys on current N950/N9 image? | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | in dialer | 07:18 |
| Sage | morning | 07:18 |
| Sage | It shouldn't as there isn't alsa-utils that is required for sound channel mapping :) | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | do we have that rpm anywhere? | 07:19 |
| Sage | however if it works I must say I'm very surpriced :D | 07:19 |
| Sage | yes, CE:Utils since yesterday | 07:19 |
| Sage | was on my todo for a long time :/ | 07:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 07:19 |
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| Stskeeps | dcthang: download http://repo.pub.meego.com/CE:/Utils/Mer_Core_armv7hl/armv7hl/alsa-utils-1.0.24.2-1.1.Nemo.Utils.armv7hl.rpm | 07:20 |
| dcthang | yes, dowloading | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -i, reboot | 07:22 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | morn niqt | 07:24 |
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| dcthang | still that problem | 07:29 |
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| dcthang | rpm -i install it then and reboot. Looks like it does not help | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 07:30 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh: did phone audio work on n9/n950 for you? | 07:31 |
| dm8tbr | it worked for me on n950 | 07:31 |
| dm8tbr | and i think for jukka on n9 | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 07:31 |
| veskuh | I think it did, but it may be that I tried on N900. No alarm on n950 at least. | 07:31 |
| dcthang | N900 it works fine | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: anything in /home/meego/.xsession-errors ? | 07:32 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: yep, on n950 audio on call works, but no alarm tone | 07:33 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 07:33 |
| dm8tbr | and I had to open the dialler to pick up the call | 07:34 |
| Sage | I really wonder how that works if the audio isn't set properly in the first place :D | 07:35 |
| Stskeeps | miracle? | 07:35 |
| Sage | we might not need the alsa hack script in nokia-n950-configs then | 07:35 |
| veskuh | Sage: Well, alarm tone does not work. so somehting works something doesnt. | 07:36 |
| veskuh | Sage: and it worked on n900 | 07:36 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=nokia-n950-configs.sh&package=nokia-n950-configs&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&srcmd5=1d66cdc1cd37e80b66d31ba351723a15 | 07:36 |
| Sage | line 7 | 07:37 |
| Sage | that command probably fails atm. veskuh could you try to do zypper install alsa-utils and then check? | 07:37 |
| veskuh | Sure | 07:37 |
| Sage | that should fix that problem | 07:37 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: for .xsession-errors http://pastebin.com/fv7ewNGj | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok, nothing suspicious | 07:42 |
| veskuh | Sage: installed and rebooted. No alarm tone though :( Call audio still works. | 07:49 |
| Sage | veskuh: if you are up for testing you could check if peregrine from this repo installs and works: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Atelepathy | 07:52 |
| veskuh | Sage: yep, I can do that | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: is both audio in and out not working? ie, other side of phonecall can't hear anything | 07:54 |
| ssirkia | iirc, ring tone needs working resource policy. And if ringtone works in n900, it might sound 'ugly'. | 07:54 |
| dcthang | both in and out not working, YES | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: ok, that narrows it down a bit :) | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: could you ask penk to perhaps test n950 with same image? so we can see if this is a n9 specific issue | 07:56 |
| dcthang | ah I have one N950 here as well. | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | please test with that and see if the behaviour is different | 07:57 |
| dcthang | I cannot use this N950 to test phone call | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 07:59 |
| dcthang | any other solution for that? | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | well, penk chen can make phonecalls on n950 supposedly, so he'd be a good way to verify if this is an isolated n9 issue | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | they are sort of different | 08:02 |
| veskuh | Sage: we need voicecallhistory for dialer history and missed call notifications: https://build.meego.com/package/show?package=voicecallhistory&project=Trunk | 08:06 |
| veskuh | related to bug https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32 | 08:07 |
| dcthang | Penk does not have it atm | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: ah okay | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: i'll boot up the same image on my n950 later today to see if i can replicate symptoms, if i can find my second SIM card | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: get alsamixer and check things look OK with alsamixer -c 0 | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | ie, no muted things, etc | 08:08 |
| Sage | veskuh: ok, will check on that today as well. | 08:09 |
| veskuh | Sage: good, I tried the rpm already from meego trunk, but there was version mismatch so I could not yet verify that it will solve both issues, but from code and logs it looks like it should. | 08:10 |
| Sage | ok | 08:16 |
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| veskuh | Sage: Peregrine installs and UI seems to work, but it is useless since there is no services in the UI (no gtalk even). I guess it would use fasight/telepathy plugins and either there is none installed or those do not work. | 08:20 |
| Sage | hmmp | 08:20 |
| Sage | can someone point me what package would add accounts ;) | 08:21 |
| veskuh | telepathy-gabble is xmpp and I guess that would the same as gtalk | 08:23 |
| veskuh | hmm.. there would be qt components ui also for it. Now peregrine installs the plain QML, which is not as cool. | 08:27 |
| Sage | well that peregrine isn't the latest version | 08:33 |
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| xruxa | morning | 08:40 |
| veskuh | morning | 08:41 |
| xruxa | veskuh: would you test the themed VKB on N950 for me? | 08:42 |
| veskuh | xruxa: yep, I can do that. | 08:43 |
| xruxa | can you add my repo home:jakub:branches:CE:MW:Shared and update maliit-plugins? | 08:44 |
| xruxa | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/jakub:/branches:/CE:/MW:/Shared/Mer_Core_armv7hl/home%3ajakub%3abranches%3aCE%3aMW%3aShared.repo | 08:45 |
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| Sage | w00t: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qt-mobility&project=home%3Asage%3Amkcal <- success | 08:47 |
| Sage | w00t: so now I would need someone to test those :) | 08:47 |
| xruxa | congrats ;) | 08:47 |
| * Sage got telepathy packages cleaned up quite nicely. | 08:48 | |
| Sage | and updated | 08:49 |
| * xruxa is going to release some flicker-free updates to his apps | 08:50 | |
| veskuh | xruxa: on portrait all good. on landscape there is some extra space on both sides | 08:51 |
| w00t | niqt: have you had time to look at mobility yet? | 08:51 |
| Sage | o_0 voicall history is ofono plugin | 08:51 |
| xruxa | veskuh: that is kind of expected (to fit N900) - is it too bad? Can you make screenshot for me? | 08:51 |
| veskuh | It looks annoying as the extra space is gray. I'll grab a screenshot. | 08:52 |
| xruxa | veskuh: how about slowness and other issues - I'm not too happy with the speed. | 08:52 |
| xruxa | veskuh: gray is unexpected | 08:52 |
| veskuh | Speed is fine on N950. The key "preview" comes fast. | 08:53 |
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| Sage | xruxa: could the vkb theme be relative so that it would scale on any kind of screen? | 09:01 |
| xruxa | Sage: yes | 09:01 |
| xruxa | Sage: we should add API to the base class to give us actual screen size. But - not sure we want that on fullHD screens and such | 09:01 |
| xruxa | could be used at least to tailor-fit for N950 and N900 device classes | 09:02 |
| Sage | xruxa: I would say that there is no harm if that would work on fullhd screen as well and if it would scale it would works right? :) | 09:02 |
| Sage | veskuh: voicallhistory should be now available so zypper ref zypper install voicecallhistory should do the trick. If it does I'll add it to dialer deps. | 09:03 |
| xruxa | will need to get araujo to comment that | 09:03 |
| veskuh | xruxa: gray space is on MTF apps, on qt components apps it seems to be black and not that bad: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/45141614/20111201-105606.png | 09:04 |
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| xruxa | veskuh: thanks! | 09:05 |
| Sage | veskuh: telepathy-gabble is in telepathy prj now as well. Also I recommend updating those packages from the project as I updated them all. | 09:06 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: Do you think this problem comes from hardware? | 09:07 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: i don't have a N9 so i haven't tested those things through | 09:07 |
| dcthang | ok :). hope to get something today.. | 09:08 |
| veskuh | Sage: yep, that fixes call history on dialer | 09:09 |
| veskuh | Sage: and also missed call notification goes from dialer to system ui | 09:10 |
| veskuh | :) | 09:10 |
| veskuh | one problem remains. missed call notification does not include the number where the call came from. | 09:11 |
| veskuh | neither does history for missed calls. For others it works. | 09:11 |
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| dcthang | any application that can play music there? might be want to check sound first | 09:14 |
| niqt | w00t: not yet.. | 09:14 |
| Sage | veskuh: nice | 09:15 |
| niqt | tonight i look mobility........ the night is my hack time | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: isn't there MusicShelf ? | 09:16 |
| w00t | niqt: sure | 09:16 |
| Sage | veskuh: can you point out the bug numbers that are fixed with voicecall history addition. | 09:16 |
| dcthang | It can play mp3 or what kinds of music files? | 09:17 |
| niqt | yesterday i worked with my brother php web application :( | 09:17 |
| veskuh | Sage: it fixes #32 | 09:17 |
| veskuh | Sage: and #26 | 09:17 |
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| niqt | today will released new nemo version? | 09:28 |
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| xruxa | w00t: updated Flicrk and Maps with the non-flicker code you suggested. Flicker is gone but also the zoom-in animation on switching :( | 10:00 |
| w00t | curious | 10:02 |
| w00t | does it work for qmlcalc? (it uses it, obviously) | 10:02 |
| xruxa | w00t: I see few zoom-in frames on flickery apps, but the non-flickery ones just pop in right away | 10:02 |
| w00t | erm.. that's weird :) as it was working for me (obviously) | 10:03 |
| xruxa | w00t: home:jakub:branches:CE:Apps:MTF has those if you want to ttry | 10:03 |
| w00t | ok, I can't right now as I'm snowed under with work | 10:03 |
| xruxa | np - I will release those anyway, the flicker was worse than the missing animation | 10:04 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3294 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3294 | 10:08 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3295 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3295 | 10:08 |
| * xruxa is on fire ^^^ | 10:09 | |
| Sage | veskuh: did you check the telepathy/peregrine stuff again? | 10:10 |
| xruxa | Sage, araujo : araujo is the maintainer for maliit (maliit-plugins in particular) - I have the themed VKB available, but is it normal to submit it without going through araujo? It is 50% rewrite of the code. | 10:10 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: Does this ring a bell: E: modinfo.c: Failed to open module "/usr/lib/pulse-0.9.22/modules/module-nokia-algorithms": file not found | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | just sent it upstream to maliit? | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: that doesn't look good | 10:11 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: rpm -qa | grep pulseaudio | 10:11 |
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| xruxa | Stskeeps: will try | 10:12 |
| Sage | iekku: what do you think. Could we allow bug to be changed from New to Released without the Resolved state? | 10:13 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/bUs7dqdt | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: hmm | 10:14 |
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| Stskeeps | dcthang: those errors look weird (memory) | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | how much free mem/swap is there? | 10:14 |
| dcthang | total: 1008588 kB, free: 566516 kB | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | should be enough | 10:15 |
| iekku | Sage, i don't like the idea | 10:16 |
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| Stskeeps | dcthang: find what configs refer to module-nokia-algorithms, it should be .so, not without | 10:16 |
| Sage | iekku: well doesn't matter after we get boss to do the bugzilla status changes :) | 10:16 |
| iekku | Sage, that leads to the situation that all bugs are straight to released from new | 10:17 |
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| iekku | without any commenting etc | 10:17 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: you mean finding lib that depend on module-nokia-algorithm? | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: no, conf | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | in /etc/pulseaudio i think | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: #maliit is friendly people :) | 10:19 |
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| dcthang | ok, got it now: arm_nokia_rm_680_board.pa:.ifexists /usr/lib/pulse-0.9.19/modules/module-nokia-algorithms.so | 10:21 |
| dcthang | arm_nokia_rm_680_board.pa:load-module module-nokia-algorithms | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | oh right.. | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | cat /etc/boardname | 10:22 |
| dcthang | arm_nokia_rm_696_board_1603 | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | that might cause some problems | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | moment | 10:23 |
| dcthang | ok, great. at least should have some clues | 10:23 |
| veskuh | Sage: Does not work, something about account manager http://pastie.org/2948789 | 10:24 |
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| veskuh | Sage: or the UI works and now I can chooce gtalk as account, but saving account info doesnt do anything | 10:25 |
| w00t | I'd guess that telepathy stuff isn't fully installed | 10:25 |
| Sage | veskuh: ok, need to discuss with mdfe then about that. | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: cp arm_nokia_rm_680_board.pa arm_nokia_rm_696_board.pa | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | and reboot | 10:26 |
| Sage | rm696? | 10:26 |
| veskuh | Sage: jbos might also know, I think he is one of the original authors | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: 9 | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: N9 | 10:27 |
| Sage | oh... | 10:27 |
| Sage | we need symlink | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | yes, just testing if this is the cause | 10:27 |
| * Sage didn't know the product code for N9 | 10:28 | |
| veskuh | Sage: what we are missing is telepathy-missioncontrol http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Mission%20Control | 10:28 |
| Sage | ok, will check that next | 10:29 |
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| Sage | veskuh: what is that used for? | 10:30 |
| veskuh | Sage: stores account info | 10:30 |
| Sage | ok | 10:30 |
| w00t | and talks to gabble (and other CMs) to tell them what to do | 10:31 |
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| dcthang | Ststkeeps: nothing happens | 10:33 |
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| dcthang | now you will have this with longer list http://pastebin.com/zViEBzv8 | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: hmm | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: i'll take a look in 2 1/2 hours on my own n950 | 10:36 |
| Sage | w00t, veskuh: do you know if we need the libaccounts-glib support from telepathy-mission-control? | 10:37 |
| w00t | probably not | 10:38 |
| w00t | we don't have any accounts ui | 10:38 |
| dcthang | ok then Stskeeps | 10:38 |
| Sage | ok | 10:39 |
| veskuh | Sage: No, idea. | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ask jbos? | 10:39 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Amkcal <- a rebuild helped..? | 11:03 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: yes | 11:06 |
| Sage | veskuh: try zypper install telepathy-mission-control if that helps | 11:07 |
| Sage | after zypper ref | 11:07 |
| Sage | and let me know if there is yet more stuff missing :) | 11:07 |
| veskuh | ok | 11:07 |
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| Sage | ok, anything else people are missing in addition to the qt-mobility organizer and telepathy? | 11:10 |
| Sage | packaging problems errors missing stuff etc.? | 11:10 |
| veskuh | Sage: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28 and twimgo is missing | 11:15 |
| Sage | veskuh: fixed both. | 11:19 |
| Sage | something else? | 11:20 |
| veskuh | Nice. | 11:21 |
| Sage | phaeron1: SR#3294 and SR#3295 seem to be stalled | 11:23 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: no need to check on your N950 | 11:23 |
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| dcthang | I did recheck it and the problem is obvious as we discussed before. Lacking of the correct board name | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:26 |
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| Stskeeps | can you do me a favour and file a bug on bugs.nemomobile.org about this? | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | so we can fix it in our releases | 11:26 |
| dcthang | yes | 11:27 |
| Sage | I can take a look of that right away. | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:33 |
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| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=pulseaudio-settings-n950&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9 | 11:43 |
| Sage | dcthang, Stskeeps: ^ fix for the rm696 problem | 11:43 |
| dcthang | ok, cool .. | 11:44 |
| Sage | would be nice if someone could verify | 11:44 |
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| Sage | Is there somekind of screenshot app available that could be used from cmdline? | 11:51 |
| Sage | that doesn't require anything else than Xorg but would output proper png images for example | 11:51 |
| veskuh | Sage: see http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Developers#Screenshot for gstreamer based solution | 11:52 |
| Sage | heh, was looking easy to remember cmdline but ok :D | 11:53 |
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| dcthang | where is the splash image (Nemo) ? | 12:11 |
| lbt | dcthang: ce-backgrounds | 12:14 |
| lbt | I have the gimp source if it's needed | 12:14 |
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| lbt | and it should credit wazd too | 12:15 |
| dcthang | thanks lbt. it from which folder? /user/share? | 12:15 |
| lbt | see https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=ce-backgrounds.spec&package=ce-backgrounds&project=CE%3AApps&srcmd5=143e5138f7f37e18f72e02934617f2f0 | 12:16 |
| xruxa | seems multiple binary packages from single source is weird concept in RPM world, unlike Debian. Judged by lack of documentation. | 12:16 |
| lbt | xruxa: nah ... just the usual rpm lack of docs | 12:17 |
| xruxa | bit better results searching for "subpackage" | 12:18 |
| lbt | you should be using spectacle - I'm sure the docs there are superb :) | 12:18 |
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| w00t | spectacle makes it easy | 12:20 |
| * xruxa still looking for example | 12:20 | |
| lbt | w00t: I kinda feel spectacle makes it easy if you knew how to do it beforehand | 12:20 |
| w00t | lbt: nah.. it's a lot less of boilerplate | 12:21 |
| xruxa | is it normal to have part of the spec file hand-written and part being updated by specify? | 12:21 |
| * lbt grins | 12:21 | |
| w00t | xruxa: it happens | 12:22 |
| lbt | that's exactly the kind of stuff that you need to know | 12:22 |
| lbt | w00t: it happens? I thought it was mandatory | 12:22 |
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| lbt | %files? | 12:22 |
| w00t | no, you can list files in the .yaml | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: yes, in >> << sections | 12:22 |
| Sage | lbt: Files: in .yaml | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | but it's in exception cases | 12:22 |
| Sage | lbt: if you are using make configure etc. properly you don't need to do any hand modifications. | 12:23 |
| lbt | Sage: I read the docs .... but like I say ... they're mainly useful if you know rpm | 12:23 |
| lbt | OK | 12:23 |
| w00t | I don't read the docs, because they're useless | 12:23 |
| w00t | I just copy-paste things until they work | 12:23 |
| w00t | :D | 12:23 |
| lbt | w00t: yep.... that's how come I edit the files in the spec | 12:23 |
| lbt | it works... move on | 12:24 |
| xruxa | +1 | 12:24 |
| xruxa | If I thought packaging is work of art I'd go for Post office job instead | 12:24 |
| lbt | they both end up with machine gunning down crowds of people | 12:25 |
| lbt | maniacal laughter | 12:25 |
| lbt | and sobbing | 12:25 |
| lbt | or we could move to .deb? | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | use spectacle if there's a yaml, if you refuse, we'll manually change your opinions | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:28 |
| veskuh | is there any way of askind stuff from contextfw with command line tools? | 12:28 |
| veskuh | ls | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh: isn't there a context-ls thing? | 12:28 |
| veskuh | nothing else than contextd in our image atm. | 12:29 |
| Sage | veskuh: I could create googletalk account with peregrine at least. That didn't work for you? | 12:29 |
| veskuh | Sage: no connection | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh: there's a tools package, i think | 12:29 |
| Sage | veskuh: well connection doesn't still work :/ | 12:29 |
| veskuh | Sage: yep, then we are at same level. I tried to take a look at logs and sources, but did not see anything obvious. | 12:30 |
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| Sage | well it might be that this version of peregrine is broken anyway. | 12:30 |
| Sage | I'm not sure if this even should work :) | 12:31 |
| veskuh | It used to work (™) | 12:31 |
| veskuh | at summer release time i remember trying it.. but a lot has changed since then. | 12:31 |
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| Sage | yes | 12:33 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: contextkit-tests installed context-ls | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 12:35 |
| veskuh | and with context-listen I can read values from properties. Nice. | 12:37 |
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| * Sage is thinking of creating new release soon | 12:58 | |
| Stskeeps | sounds like a good time, it's going to take a bit before next mer release too so | 12:59 |
| xruxa | Sage: Do we want a hackish but new VKB or wait for next week? | 13:00 |
| Sage | xruxa: what does hackish mean? :D | 13:01 |
| veskuh | Sage: cool looking :) | 13:01 |
| xruxa | Sage: comes with upstream name (maliit-plugins) but is not upstreamed | 13:02 |
| xruxa | Will take quite bit of time to get it upstream and to get packaging into place too | 13:02 |
| xruxa | Sage: plus, the maintainer araujo did not even see it or comment on it | 13:03 |
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| Sage | xruxa: I would probably wait then at least comments from araujo | 13:07 |
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| Sage | veskuh: WlanEnabled is in contextkit-maemo | 13:13 |
| veskuh | ah, and rest of network stuff is on -meego. confusing | 13:14 |
| Sage | https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/contextkit-maemo/commit/d2c29ff9e4745c586ddada10051ebe5464292299?format=patch | 13:15 |
| Sage | does harmattan use contextkit-meego? | 13:15 |
| veskuh | Don't think so as they do not have connman | 13:16 |
| Sage | ah, our contextkit-maemo isn't compiled with mce and that seems to be in mce plugin? | 13:16 |
| Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=contextkit-maemo&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared :) | 13:17 |
| veskuh | that could be the reason. | 13:17 |
| Sage | however, we can't build it with mce as such, but we could try to separete the mce plugin | 13:18 |
| Sage | contextkit-maemo-mce and use that in CE:UX:MTF | 13:18 |
| Sage | same goes for the battery and precence plugins probably | 13:18 |
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| veskuh | precence is low prio, battery would be more important, but I think it is somehow working on n900 . | 13:19 |
| Sage | for battery we have something from contextkit-meego in use | 13:20 |
| Sage | however some of it might work better with the maemo thing. Anyway should check those | 13:20 |
| veskuh | yep, there are like 7 properties defined in my n950 for battery | 13:20 |
| Sage | veskuh: nice finding btw :) | 13:20 |
| veskuh | Sage: thanks | 13:20 |
| * Sage starts building new images. | 13:23 | |
| Sage | sry for all that have patches waiting, lets get them in next week. | 13:23 |
| Sage | there is quite a lot changed packages in this release though: 427 packages to be installed, 52 packages gotten from cache, 375 packages to be downloaded | 13:24 |
| * KaziKluBey has a new sd-card 8GB class 6 standing by to test new image | 13:28 | |
| xruxa | That ^ is the spirit ;) | 13:29 |
| KaziKluBey | :) | 13:29 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: that n950 boot thing is still not included btw. | 13:30 |
| Sage | probably should check if that can be fixed before releasing | 13:30 |
| Stskeeps | .ks hack? | 13:31 |
| dm8tbr | *nod* | 13:31 |
| Sage | I'm thinking more like a kernel package hack | 13:31 |
| * KaziKluBey My old 16GB is now my main card in my htc hd2 instead, the n900 is now officially a guineapig :) | 13:31 | |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/2949463 | 13:33 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ^ something like that :) | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: if it works, ship it | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:34 |
| Sage | should work :) | 13:35 |
| * KaziKluBey F5:ing | 13:35 | |
| xruxa | ... for next 5 hours? | 13:36 |
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| KaziKluBey | oh, wll it take tht long? | 13:36 |
| Sage | ah, found the actual reason for that | 13:36 |
| Sage | and yes, it is my bad :D | 13:36 |
| xruxa | KaziKluBey: dunno, would not expect minutes, prod Sage for estimate | 13:37 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: ah, new n950 images soon then? :) | 13:38 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: yes | 13:38 |
| Sage | phaeron: ping | 13:38 |
| KaziKluBey | xruxa: ok, no rush for me though. just eager to try it out, as always :) | 13:39 |
| xruxa | sigh ... anyone who 1) enjoys fiddling with Qt's qmake 2) has nothing to do for few hours ? | 13:42 |
| xruxa | ^^ didn't think so ... but just had to ask | 13:43 |
| Sage | what is wrong with cobs again | 13:44 |
| Sage | needs recalculations... | 13:44 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3295 Accepted promotion request | 13:47 |
| Sage | veskuh: looking that mce plugin? | 13:50 |
| Sage | If not I could take a look if that can be easily compiled separately | 13:50 |
| veskuh | Sage: Better if you do it. | 13:50 |
| Sage | ok, will check that | 13:51 |
| Sage | I need someone to test n950 kernel package soon | 13:51 |
| veskuh | I can do that | 13:52 |
| Sage | if it compiles fine | 13:52 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3294 Accepted promotion request | 13:52 |
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| Sage | veskuh: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=contextkit-maemo-mce&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AProject%3AMTF%3AUX | 14:14 |
| w00t | xruxa: what's up with qmake | 14:15 |
| Sage | veskuh: let me know how that installs and works | 14:15 |
| veskuh | yep | 14:15 |
| Sage | veskuh: also could you check if this package installs fine and adds those two missin files properly: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-n950&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3ACE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9 | 14:17 |
| veskuh | Sage, installs and works. I see wlan indicator when connected and not when wlan disabled. :) | 14:18 |
| Sage | yey | 14:20 |
| w00t | nice! | 14:20 |
| w00t | ^5 veskuh, Sage | 14:20 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: where was that your gles test app again :P | 14:21 |
| * Sage should really create package for it | 14:22 | |
| Stskeeps | www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/glestest.cc | 14:22 |
| Sage | binaries? | 14:22 |
| Stskeeps | /glestest is old old armv7l | 14:23 |
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| Sage | veskuh: you tested that mce with n950? | 14:25 |
| veskuh | yep | 14:25 |
| Sage | ok | 14:26 |
| * Sage check n900 | 14:26 | |
| veskuh | Sage: New kernel works and boots. I manually removed symlinks that I had previously done, so that I know it creates them fine, but do not know if upgrade would replace old once correctly | 14:28 |
| Sage | veskuh: try to force installation of the old kernel back and see if somethign fails | 14:29 |
| Sage | just with -f | 14:29 |
| Sage | mce plugin works on n900 as well | 14:34 |
| Sage | I'm wondering what package should bring that in. | 14:41 |
| Sage | I would like to say systemui however that plugin doesn't work on others than N900 and N950 | 14:41 |
| w00t | and now we reach the problem that generic arch images isn't quiiiite enough in some ways ;) | 14:42 |
| Sage | generic arch images? | 14:42 |
| Sage | what do you mean | 14:42 |
| w00t | like you say - it's for n900/n950 only | 14:42 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3298 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3298 | 14:42 |
| w00t | it shouldn't be on i586 at all, and also isn't useful for other ARM devices | 14:42 |
| Sage | what is your point? :) | 14:43 |
| w00t | I don't really have one | 14:43 |
| veskuh | Sage: upgrading new kernel on top of older kernel and manually created symlinks worked fine. | 14:43 |
| w00t | it's a hard problem | 14:43 |
| w00t | that's all | 14:43 |
| Sage | veskuh: yes, but can you install the old kernel on top of the new one with -f without any complaints? | 14:43 |
| Sage | rpm -Uvh -f .... | 14:44 |
| Sage | kernel from CE:Adaptation:N950-N9 | 14:44 |
| veskuh | Ah, why is that important? | 14:44 |
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| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3298 Accepted promotion request | 14:47 |
| Sage | veskuh: to test that postun doesn't break when user tries to do update next time | 14:47 |
| veskuh | Sage: No, ."..(which is newer than kernel-adaptation-n950-2.6.32.20112201-8.1.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9.armv7hl) is already installed" | 14:47 |
| Sage | veskuh: rpm -Uvh --force ? | 14:47 |
| veskuh | no complaints | 14:47 |
| Sage | ok | 14:47 |
| Sage | and links gone again? | 14:48 |
| veskuh | Hmm.. They are there | 14:48 |
| veskuh | but point to nonexisting files | 14:48 |
| Sage | ok, well ok for now :D | 14:49 |
| Sage | needs to be fixed at some point better | 14:49 |
| Sage | ah, damn hackers. they edit fs on %post so those are not handled by rpm removal | 14:49 |
| veskuh | Ok, gotta go. Bye! | 14:49 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3299 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3299 | 14:49 |
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| phaeron | Sage: I think rpmlint wars about those | 14:54 |
| Sage | probably | 14:54 |
| phaeron | *warns | 14:58 |
| the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3299 Accepted promotion request | 14:59 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/2950018 | 15:37 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: on N900 something isn't righ | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | we should just scrap GL support to be honest | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | we're a EGL/GLESv2 suhop | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | shop | 15:37 |
| faenil | :D | 15:38 |
| Sage | +1 for that | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | please add to architectual backlog | 15:42 |
| Sage | Mer Core/mesa, task right? | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i guess, | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | since most other stuff is GL-less | 15:44 |
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| Sage | how did I check if lib is hardfloat again | 15:48 |
| Stskeeps | readelf -A | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | VFP registers | 15:50 |
| Sage | http://pastie.org/2950128 | 15:57 |
| Sage | should work with armv7l? | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | so softfp | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | and yes | 15:58 |
| Sage | ok | 15:58 |
| Sage | some other problem then | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | see how ubuntu gles wors? | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | works | 15:58 |
| Sage | what do you mean? I'm using the same xorg driver and proprietary binaries at least. | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | well, if they set any bpp stuff etc | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | or processes on bootup | 16:01 |
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| vgrade | or permissions on devices | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that helps too | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | setuid vs not setuid | 16:06 |
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| Sage | well, I can see the picture ok. But EGL just doesn't work | 16:20 |
| Sage | I can see xterm for example | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it might be different devices | 16:21 |
| faenil | any news about the new build? | 16:24 |
| Sage | cooking atm. | 16:25 |
| faenil | yey :) | 16:26 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: will you kill me if Mer release numbers become along lines of 0.20111201.1.0.0 ? | 16:27 |
| faenil | I will xD | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | (there's btw a point for each of those) | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:29 |
| faenil | oh well , then it's ok xD no, not really :D | 16:30 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: umm... ? | 16:36 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: so two extra .0.0 ? | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yeah, i'm pondering if that's actually redundant | 16:37 |
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| Sage | To me that doesn't have any effect | 16:37 |
| xruxa | ^ Kimi Raikonnek quote? | 16:39 |
| Sage | ;) | 16:39 |
| Sage | faenil: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-handset/2011-December/000870.html | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | so, short explanation - imagine the core changes go into a git branch, master - once a week, we branch into a prerelease branch and on that branch we add stabilization patches. then we release the prerelease branch at a certain date | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | while changes go into master again which then becomes next (pre)release | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Process#Version_numbers | 16:40 |
| faenil | very nice changelog :) | 16:41 |
| faenil | thx Sage | 16:41 |
| Sage | if you are not in a rush I'll say I'll respond tomorrow. If you are in rush, then go for it ;) | 16:41 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ^ :) | 16:41 |
| * Sage needs to go now | 16:41 | |
| Stskeeps | cya | 16:41 |
| faenil | lo | 16:41 |
| faenil | downloading image :D | 16:42 |
| faenil | need to try some hack this evening to try making n950 antenna better :D | 16:43 |
| faenil | physical hack I mean LD | 16:44 |
| faenil | :D | 16:44 |
| faenil | like soldering a sheet of aluminium to the antenna XD | 16:44 |
| faenil | w00t: how come you're very silent in the last few days ? :) | 16:46 |
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| djszapi | Hi! Are there available native look'n feel components for nemo application development, or just pure Qml ? | 16:48 |
| faenil | mmm no components afaik, but I'm not sure | 16:48 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: ^ | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | djszapi: qml components with different theme but similar components exist in nemo | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | as in harmattan | 16:49 |
| faenil | oh, nice :) | 16:50 |
| djszapi | I would like to write a Gluon Player :P | 16:56 |
| djszapi | which device would you recommend from me from the N900, N950 collection ? (If I am not mistaken n9 is not entirely ready yet, but I might be wrong). | 16:57 |
| djszapi | for me* | 16:57 |
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| faenil | be back later :) | 17:02 |
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| dm8tbr | djszapi: if you happen to have moslo or are willing to flasher load a kernel and mess with things you can also use the N9 | 17:45 |
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| KaziKluBey | Q: Anyone managed too boot the recent image on the N900? | 17:58 |
| KaziKluBey | Mine halts in the splashscreen | 17:59 |
| djszapi | dm8tbr: mmm, I see. Thanks. | 18:33 |
| * KaziKluBey boot works after a rewrite | 18:36 | |
| djszapi | dm8tbr: do you know anything about the warranty if you flash own kernel on N900 ? | 18:38 |
| djszapi | like mer and then nemo Ui. | 18:38 |
| dm8tbr | djszapi: no idea, I'm not a nokia representative, please contact one of them to inquire about this. | 18:46 |
| dm8tbr | that said, you can recover by cold flashing | 18:46 |
| dm8tbr | the only failure mode I know would be screwing up cal area | 18:47 |
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| xruxa | KaziKluBey: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/20110502-235451.png - runs but we are missing some GStreamer bits | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | like what? | 21:01 |
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| xruxa | Stskeeps: can't see details :( Says http://pastie.org/2951540 | 21:03 |
| Stskeeps | ah, we don't support AAC/MP3 and other capitalistic codecs | 21:04 |
| xruxa | but do we have packages for those somewhere? | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | it should be possible to do but there's issues having them on COBS for instance | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | for legal reasons | 21:05 |
| * xruxa not thrilled about copying more N9 code over to N900 | 21:05 | |
| Stskeeps | well | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | you can probably activate gst-dsp | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | hang on | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Ideas/DSP | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | though that was with meego 1.2 | 21:06 |
| xruxa | hmm, so that tidsp-binaries has the DSP-side codecs like mp3? | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 21:08 |
| * xruxa will give it a go - was about to flash the latest anyway now | 21:08 | |
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| Stskeeps | might need some manual hacking | 21:09 |
| xruxa | no such packages as dsp-tools or gst-dsp. That solves it for me. | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i guess we should import them to our HW adaptation | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | file a bug please_ | 21:10 |
| xruxa | no rush for me | 21:10 |
| xruxa | I'd rather get all QtMobility API's pre-installed which we still do not have | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 21:10 |
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