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iekku | morning | 04:21 |
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araujo | morning iekku o/ | 04:22 |
iekku | \o | 04:26 |
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dm8tbr | moaning | 05:27 |
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Stskeeps | morn | 06:18 |
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marquiz | morning | 06:28 |
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Sage | morning | 07:47 |
Stskeeps | morn sage | 07:48 |
Stskeeps | Sage: going to re-evaluate some of your submits now that we have proper logs | 07:50 |
Sage | ok | 07:52 |
Stskeeps | we had some NTP issues before so builds broke randomly | 07:54 |
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niqt | morning | 07:57 |
kengu2 | the latest release on n900 seems to alert on incoming calls and launch dialer? I was in the belief that there was/is problem with that but I just received a call and I thought I didn't have dialer running. No, it was not a test case. I just happened to get a call. | 07:57 |
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Stskeeps | kengu2: that's good :) | 07:58 |
Stskeeps | kengu2: if you find the bug in question on bugs.nemomobile.org, you can note that it actually works for you | 07:59 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3288 Rejected promotion request | 08:08 |
Stskeeps | it's incredible how proc/sys/vm/vdso_enabled can still screw up qemu | 08:09 |
Sage | Stskeeps: udev/rules.d/10-pvrsrvkm.rules:1:KERNEL=="pvrsrvkm", OWNER="meego" | 08:09 |
Stskeeps | Sage: ah @%@%#^& | 08:09 |
Sage | Stskeeps: ^ one reason for name change :) | 08:09 |
Stskeeps | that's just silly | 08:09 |
Sage | we probably should do something else than static name there :) | 08:09 |
Stskeeps | can't we make it group video or something? | 08:09 |
Sage | Stskeeps: worst thing is that it is our code ;) | 08:09 |
Stskeeps | yes, i know, hence my reaction | 08:09 |
Sage | probably video group would be proper one | 08:10 |
Stskeeps | and then write permissions for group | 08:10 |
phaeron | Sage: removing old changelog entries ? :D | 08:11 |
Sage | phaeron: boss broke to that? | 08:12 |
phaeron | it's not allowed | 08:12 |
Sage | phaeron: well the thing is that I just took the ustream | 08:12 |
phaeron | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/3288 | 08:12 |
Sage | it was forked package and forked comments :/ | 08:12 |
phaeron | I can see that, but what the check sees is the lines starting with - | 08:13 |
phaeron | Sage: did you get my messages in #mer ? | 08:13 |
Sage | yes, I saw thus package :) | 08:13 |
Sage | I can fix that changelog by adding it there though | 08:13 |
Sage | actually I can't :) | 08:14 |
Sage | date doesn't match :P | 08:14 |
Sage | ok, in this kind of situation what is the proper action? Just ignore the upstream changelogs and add one of my own only? | 08:15 |
Sage | Stskeeps: opinions https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/3288 | 08:15 |
Stskeeps | go for it | 08:16 |
phaeron | Sage: I agree that meego's package is the culprit. so maybe make it a warning and then remove the exception later ? | 08:16 |
Sage | phaeron: I can just manually short circut that :) | 08:18 |
Sage | before review completes :P | 08:18 |
phaeron | Sage: or reopen request and accept it | 08:19 |
phaeron | Sage: you loose the trial build but I guess that's ok | 08:19 |
Sage | that is ok | 08:22 |
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niqt | how to do screenshot on nemo? | 08:26 |
xruxa | run widgetsgalleru -> debug tools | 08:27 |
Sage | cp /dev/fb0 /root/image.raw ;) | 08:32 |
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Sage | phaeron: so how to reopen request? | 08:34 |
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Sage | We should probably create a meta bug for nemo: "[META] Bugs blocking usage as primary phone" or something | 08:41 |
Sage | what are the main problems atm. outside the calling/gprs area? | 08:41 |
veskuh | battery status | 08:42 |
phaeron | Sage: osc request reopen foo | 08:42 |
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xruxa | veskuh: battery indicator works for me on N900, tough battery life is worse than it used to be | 08:54 |
veskuh | xruxa: yep on N900 it seems to work. doesn't work on N950 though. | 08:54 |
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xruxa | w00t: http://blog.rburchell.com/2011/11/avoiding-graphics-flicker-in-qt-qml.html you want us to use it in our apps now? | 11:18 |
w00t | xruxa: you can, but not compulsory, i'm ~half done moving it into a little stub launcher we can reuse for pure qml apps | 11:22 |
w00t | just need to package it :) | 11:22 |
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cousin_luigi | Greetings. | 11:34 |
w00t | hi | 11:35 |
cousin_luigi | Does nemo support platforms other than N9* ? | 11:35 |
w00t | it supports whatever people want to try put it onto | 11:36 |
cousin_luigi | w00t: Has anyone taken up the challenge yet? | 11:38 |
w00t | what challenge? | 11:38 |
cousin_luigi | w00t: Of porting meego to other cellphones... | 11:39 |
w00t | not that I know of | 11:39 |
w00t | it isn't trivial to get something actually usable, Stskeeps is a good person to talk to about that | 11:40 |
Stskeeps | mer's easy to port but problems is always graphics drivers and modem | 11:41 |
cousin_luigi | Stskeeps: I see.:/ | 11:41 |
Stskeeps | if you are a handset vendor, it'sa lot easier | 11:41 |
cousin_luigi | Stskeeps: I'm a handset user who would like an alternative to the existing platforms:) | 11:42 |
w00t | right.. I was meaning, difficult in terms of getting something actually usable :) | 11:42 |
cousin_luigi | Stskeeps: Do you see more vendors supporting it in the future? And what about tizen? | 11:42 |
Stskeeps | cousin_luigi: tizen doesn't have any code published or architecture, hard to say | 11:43 |
Stskeeps | mer's just a core, people like Nemo make handset UIs | 11:43 |
cousin_luigi | I see. | 11:44 |
Stskeeps | ie, not strictly a handset platform, but i hope one day people will make mer-based handsets | 11:44 |
cousin_luigi | Do you see that happening anytime soon?:/ | 11:46 |
Stskeeps | we just announced mer under two months ago, patience :) | 11:46 |
Stskeeps | but Nemo can make phonecalls | 11:46 |
arcol | Stskeeps: but you worked on it since ages before the announcement!:) | 11:47 |
Stskeeps | arcol: hehe | 11:47 |
Stskeeps | arcol: not terribly, first very seriously a couple of weeks before :) | 11:47 |
Stskeeps | we had practically no infra | 11:47 |
arcol | I dont mind if meego is only supported on two model. I have one of it | 11:48 |
arcol | :) | 11:49 |
arcol | development is not scattered. We will end up at least one working model | 11:49 |
arcol | thats good enough for me:) | 11:49 |
arcol | if you can keep up with one model/year supporting its enough | 11:52 |
arcol | (2010 - n900, 2011 - n9, 2012 - ?) | 11:52 |
arcol | its like a reference model for the manufacturers | 11:52 |
Stskeeps | no idea about 2012 | 11:53 |
Stskeeps | :P | 11:53 |
cousin_luigi | arcol: Problem is the supported models are a bit out of my budget. | 11:53 |
arcol | yeah, we need an entry model too. good point | 11:54 |
arcol | however I plan to use mine for 5 years | 11:54 |
arcol | (3.5 years left) | 11:54 |
cousin_luigi | well, I guess I'm going to check back with you guys in a few months and see what happened:) | 11:55 |
cousin_luigi | good luck | 11:55 |
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xruxa | ouch - http://pastie.org/2943645 - what happened? Do we really have this many new packages coming for tomorrow's image? | 12:10 |
Stskeeps | new Mer release? | 12:11 |
Stskeeps | we moved OBS, so | 12:11 |
Stskeeps | and be aware: i don't guarantee upgrades as we moved OBS | 12:11 |
xruxa | explains. Thanks. | 12:13 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3289 Rejected promotion request | 12:24 |
Sage | ah | 12:25 |
Sage | Stskeeps: after I get the alsa-utils there :P | 12:25 |
Stskeeps | ok | 12:25 |
Sage | veskuh: that preview needs to be added to the default gconf key to fix the issue. | 12:27 |
Sage | not sure though which package should provide that. Maybe ce-mtf-configs? | 12:28 |
* lbt got appsformeego client running last night | 12:29 | |
lbt | it tried to install harmattan things :) | 12:30 |
veskuh | lbt: nice. But the UI is mostly working? | 12:30 |
Sage | well some of those apps should run fine in theory at least | 12:30 |
lbt | veskuh: yes | 12:30 |
lbt | sage ... they're .debs though | 12:31 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3290 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3290 | 12:43 |
Sage | Stskeeps: ok now alsa-utils goes to the CE:Utils :) | 12:45 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3290 Accepted promotion request | 12:47 |
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Sage | btw, anyone checked why on exopc and wetab the x86 blanks the screen and never comes back? | 13:21 |
Stskeeps | xset, dpms, that kind of stuff? | 13:23 |
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faenil | hello peopleee :) | 13:25 |
Stskeeps | lo | 13:26 |
faenil | how's life mate? | 13:26 |
Stskeeps | headache, currently | 13:26 |
faenil | oops | 13:26 |
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lbt | Sage: that screen blanking seems to be triggered by events - if you boot and leave it alone it's fine - but as soon as you touch it it goes blank | 13:39 |
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faenil | ok so, first test... | 13:52 |
faenil | N950 reception: 45-55% | 13:52 |
faenil | N9 signal in the same spot: 75-85% | 13:52 |
faenil | now trying to remove the back of the n950... | 13:53 |
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faenil | removed N950 back, didn't get any better :( | 14:04 |
faenil | N950: 55%, N9: 85%... | 14:04 |
faenil | that's so sad :( | 14:04 |
Sage | :( | 14:10 |
Stskeeps | n950 isn't terribly good with signals | 14:11 |
faenil | it's totally useless here :( | 14:12 |
faenil | I always get no signal at uni :( | 14:12 |
Stskeeps | only a developer phone anyway | 14:12 |
faenil | need to keep it on the desk | 14:12 |
faenil | sure | 14:12 |
faenil | glad it didn't reach the market though... | 14:12 |
Sage | ? | 14:13 |
Stskeeps | well, it's not production level calibrated properly | 14:13 |
Stskeeps | probably | 14:13 |
dm8tbr | it's just their way to remind us that we should also buy a proper N9 ;) | 14:13 |
faenil | :) I have an N9 xD got at devdays ^^ | 14:14 |
dm8tbr | lucky b*stard :-p | 14:14 |
faenil | but I wanted to sell it since it's an overkill because I already have n950 and N8 ^^ | 14:14 |
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dm8tbr | sell the N8, who uses dead platforms anyway *snerk* | 14:14 |
faenil | but I can't sell it with the n950 being so useless | 14:14 |
faenil | need the N8 :) | 14:14 |
faenil | and it has got long battery life, and wonderful camera + wonderful antenna signal | 14:15 |
faenil | all things n950/n9 dream about D | 14:15 |
faenil | :) | 14:15 |
dm8tbr | deeeetails ;) | 14:15 |
faenil | ehehehe | 14:16 |
* dm8tbr simply keeps a stack of BL-4D in his pocket, longest battery-life evvvar! | 14:16 | |
Sage | free phone and still not happy ;) | 14:16 |
faenil | anyway, dm8tbr you know what's better? I won a free kindle in a drawing at devdays the first evening, and it was my birthday! :D | 14:16 |
dm8tbr | did I said lucky b*stard already? oh, yes I did... | 14:17 |
dm8tbr | ;) | 14:17 |
faenil | the morning after, they said people with the blue card were going to receive the N9 (i.e. people who chose to follow the Qt Quick track) | 14:17 |
faenil | and guess what, I was in Qt Quick track coz advanced Qt was already full when I registered :D | 14:17 |
faenil | that was amazing! You can imagine how excited I was! | 14:18 |
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faenil | so what's the most important release blocker atm in Nemo? :) | 14:24 |
w00t | I think it's generally agreed that dialer starting being a bit weird, and indicators being a bit broken are the biggest issues atm | 14:25 |
Sage | :nod: | 14:25 |
w00t | (https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2 being one of those, i don't have the other id handy) | 14:25 |
faenil | registering to the bugzilla :) | 14:26 |
Sage | is there something in mer core <-> nemomobile package level that needs attention atm? | 14:28 |
faenil | account created :) w00t: 3d crossword exam is finished :) I could have some spare hours during the next days...I "only" have to work on the thesis and study from now on | 14:28 |
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w00t | Sage: organizer support i think is the biggest thing i know of, i guess that's probably straddling mer a little too | 14:29 |
Sage | ah that one | 14:29 |
* Sage already forgot | 14:30 | |
faenil | I have got tearing on my notebook with official ATi drivers, so I can accept it's there on nemo too :) | 14:31 |
faenil | anyway, did you find the cause of that tearing? is there any info about that? | 14:32 |
w00t | Stskeeps was taking a look, but he's had a lot on his plate. dunno if he got to it yet. | 14:36 |
faenil | k | 14:37 |
Stskeeps | i'm actively blocked by PR1.1 kernel source not being published | 14:37 |
faenil | isn't it out yet? :O | 14:37 |
Stskeeps | something screwed up in the process, it seems | 14:37 |
faenil | -.- | 14:37 |
w00t | *sigh* | 14:37 |
faenil | Stskeeps: do you want me to look for updated info about that? | 14:39 |
Stskeeps | nah, there's plenty of twitter sources and forum discussions | 14:39 |
faenil | ok ;) | 14:40 |
faenil | w00t: could you please give me some update about qmlsms and explain what's needed/ToDo? | 14:43 |
w00t | sure. not much has changed in the past week, I've not had time (or inclination) to get back to it yet. so - current status is, there's a simple prototype/kickaround QML UI, plus xruxa's currently seperate bubble prototype.. those need to be merged into the codebase of what was formerly meego-handset-sms, replacing the old UI (which will involve writing models to present the data, etc) | 14:45 |
* Sage can't believe his eyes with the mkcal build atm. | 14:47 | |
w00t | Sage: oh? | 14:47 |
Sage | that can't work :D | 14:47 |
Stskeeps | what's worse, using EDS or this stuff? | 14:48 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:48 |
Stskeeps | or is there no EDS calendar backend | 14:48 |
w00t | there -is- no eds calendar backend | 14:49 |
Stskeeps | ok | 14:49 |
Stskeeps | so there's only kcalcore .. or which are there | 14:49 |
faenil | w00t: ok...could you please tell me more about what to keep from the old app? | 14:50 |
w00t | there's mkcal, memory, or harmattan, or maemo5 (using god knows what), symbian (irrelevant to us) | 14:51 |
w00t | er | 14:51 |
w00t | harmattan = mkcal | 14:51 |
Stskeeps | maemo5 sounds like EDS.. doesn't it | 14:51 |
Stskeeps | or was there an insane closed api for that | 14:52 |
w00t | i'm pretty sure they didn't use eds for calendaring | 14:52 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. "calendar-backend" | 14:52 |
Sage | LOL | 14:52 |
Sage | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Amkcal | 14:52 |
Sage | no tracker in there and compiled mkcal :P | 14:53 |
Stskeeps | fun | 14:53 |
Stskeeps | does it actually work | 14:53 |
Stskeeps | ? | 14:53 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:53 |
Sage | I don't think so :D | 14:53 |
w00t | that.. really shouldn't build :) | 14:53 |
Stskeeps | install -m 644 -p /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/mkcal-0.3.11/src/sqlitestorage.h /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILDROOT/mkcal-0.3.11-7.1.i386//usr/include/mkcal/ | 14:54 |
Stskeeps | hmmmmm | 14:54 |
Stskeeps | :P | 14:54 |
Stskeeps | also 'dummystorage' and 'trackerstorage' | 14:54 |
w00t | oh, hmm | 14:55 |
w00t | i actually remember something about calendaring in harmattan not actually relying on tracker | 14:55 |
w00t | they mirror their own database to it for stupid purposes (search or something) | 14:55 |
w00t | but i don't think they actually -use- it as their primary data storage | 14:55 |
w00t | so it may be that tracker can be neutered out of there | 14:55 |
w00t | faenil: so, do you have a clone of meego-handset-sms to look at? | 14:56 |
veskuh | w00t: yep, sounds about right | 14:56 |
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Stskeeps | take qmf while you're at it? | 14:57 |
faenil | w00t: cloning...but have to go in a bit...will be back later, hopefully :) | 14:57 |
w00t | er | 14:57 |
w00t | don't we already have qmf? | 14:57 |
w00t | it's needed for sms | 14:57 |
w00t | (it shouldn't be, but that's another discussion) | 14:57 |
Sage | w00t: it is not in mer core | 14:57 |
w00t | ok | 14:57 |
Stskeeps | not in mer core (yet) | 14:57 |
Sage | ok, will continue that thing tomorrow | 14:58 |
Sage | have to go very soon | 14:58 |
faenil | what's qmf? | 14:58 |
Stskeeps | ok | 14:58 |
Stskeeps | good work | 14:58 |
w00t | qt messaging framework | 14:58 |
faenil | oh ok... | 14:58 |
w00t | email, basically | 14:58 |
faenil | I have just cloned meego-handset, need anything else? | 14:59 |
w00t | for some cracked-out reason, the original sms authors decided to jam it into meego-handset-sms | 14:59 |
faenil | oh... | 14:59 |
w00t | faenil: you can probably forget about building this on desktop without a bit of work, so for now yeah, just that repo is good | 14:59 |
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w00t | README provides a pretty good overview though | 15:00 |
faenil | oh that's sad, can't see my sms app in action when it will be ready for any action xD | 15:00 |
w00t | ARCHITECTURE is also useful | 15:00 |
faenil | bettery almost empty | 15:00 |
w00t | basically, src/ is the primary bit you'll be hacking at | 15:00 |
faenil | cya later | 15:00 |
w00t | o/ | 15:00 |
faenil | you talking about handset-sms now right? | 15:00 |
w00t | yes | 15:01 |
faenil | k | 15:01 |
faenil | l8 | 15:01 |
faenil | l8er | 15:01 |
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w00t | Stskeeps: interesting.. | 15:05 |
Stskeeps | mm? | 15:05 |
w00t | there is a calendar-backend on gitorious :P | 15:05 |
Stskeeps | yes i know | 15:05 |
Stskeeps | it's more dead than meego though | 15:05 |
w00t | given the contact is someone i know to have left nokia, possibly | 15:06 |
w00t | though it has recent commits | 15:06 |
slaine | Wonder if we can get Norwegian blue Meego tee's | 15:06 |
Sage | w00t: that qt-mobility there should compile now. Would be nice if someone could test if that organizer actually works :) | 15:06 |
Stskeeps | i have a couple of Tizen tshirts | 15:06 |
w00t | niqt: ^^^^ | 15:06 |
Stskeeps | i figured i would start a collection tshirts of dead OS'es | 15:07 |
slaine | Stskeeps: From the prague meet up ? | 15:07 |
Stskeeps | slaine: yeah :P | 15:07 |
Stskeeps | maemo, meego, tizen. | 15:07 |
Stskeeps | mer.. not dead ;) | 15:07 |
w00t | just pining | 15:07 |
w00t | for the fjords... | 15:07 |
Sage | cya later everyone. | 15:07 |
Stskeeps | cya | 15:07 |
slaine | w00t: exactly | 15:08 |
w00t | Sage: o/, thanks again | 15:08 |
niqt | yes i'm | 15:08 |
w00t | niqt: see home:sage:mkcal on obs | 15:08 |
niqt | tomorrow i'll try | 15:09 |
w00t | you'll hopefully have a mobility there with organizer working | 15:09 |
niqt | w00t: i have obs account, but i never used it, is the moment to leaard it | 15:09 |
w00t | sure :) | 15:10 |
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veskuh | w00t: What is the easiest way to see dbus method signature? | 15:22 |
veskuh | This is probably reason fall call history fail in dialer: "HistoryProxy: GetVoiceHistory() failed: Method "GetVoiceHistory" with signature "" on interface "org.ofono.CallHistory" doesn't exist | 15:23 |
w00t | qdbus is a useful tool | 15:23 |
* slaine is booting the last nemo image now | 15:23 | |
veskuh | hmm.. there is SmsHistory but no call history.. | 15:28 |
slaine | w00t: how's lipstick coming along ? | 15:34 |
slaine | meegotouchhome is still really bloaty | 15:34 |
veskuh | argh, latest ofono-qt is really crappy. it is missing bunch of features that dialer wants to use. | 15:40 |
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rlinfati | Hi, how i install mer on n950? i flash moslo, mkfs.ext4 to sdb, untar, cp cmdline-* cmdline, cp vmlinuz- vmlinuz.... but not boot | 20:47 |
rlinfati | also, i see the cmdline say root=mmcblk0p4.. and i try with 3, but nothing happens | 20:47 |
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rlinfati | :( | 20:54 |
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kengu2 | hmm.. i did as instructed and the fix and it worked | 20:58 |
kengu2 | rlinfati: these instructions: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 | 21:00 |
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rlinfati | can be related to my n950 was with pr1.1 before ? | 21:18 |
kengu2 | yes | 21:21 |
dm8tbr | rlinfati: shoudl work fine, do the fix I mentioned! | 21:24 |
dm8tbr | see mailing list | 21:24 |
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dm8tbr | http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-handset/2011-November/000868.html | 21:26 |
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Sage | w00t: the build for qt-mobility failed on arm. for some missing file. Need to check why it differs on arm and intel | 22:33 |
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