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| iekku | morning | 05:30 |
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| dm8tbr | moaning | 05:40 |
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| Sage | morning | 06:55 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | seems like my obs is finally behaving again | 06:56 |
| dcthang | which packages for playing mp3 ? | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | we don't support that out of the box, you need to manually compile those yourself or set up DSP | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | because of legal reasons | 07:00 |
| dcthang | okay, good reason for manually build | 07:01 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:25 |
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| niqt | Stskeeps: i should write on wiki info for newbie, example use of obs, where is correct page ofor write it? | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | you can start out in a User:niqt/ page i guess, get reviews, then post eventually to a major page | 07:30 |
| niqt | ok | 07:31 |
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| Sage | I think I'll add picocom to CE:Utils | 07:51 |
| Sage | so far I have used minicom in many cases, but picocom is much better without all the extra stuff :P | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | screen.. | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 | 07:54 |
| Sage | well... that is not nice either at times. Anything that graps the whole screen is a problem at times. | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | tue | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | true | 07:54 |
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| Sage | hmmp... | 08:00 |
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| dcthang | anyone here who built oFono package? | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh: PMO bug 240023 and 236714 sounds like our n950/n9 tearing bug | 08:34 |
| w00t | 236714 I have definitely seen | 08:36 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: Hmm.. yes, I though we should have all major components newer than that.. | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh: not xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx, 240023 is fixed after our version | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | i'll try to see if i can bring it to PR1.1 level | 08:37 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: yep, nice finding | 08:38 |
| Sage | dcthang: why? | 08:47 |
| dcthang | ah I just want to check that if I did some wrong things since now I cannot make a call | 08:50 |
| dcthang | Moreover, after some seconds, it turns off the screen makes me not happy. Finding out the way to prolong that time.. | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | you can adjust that in MCE gconf, i think | 08:56 |
| w00t | i think there's actually a bug there | 08:58 |
| w00t | i've had the screen turn off right after a press a few times | 08:58 |
| w00t | i can't pin it down though | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | urgh | 09:00 |
| veskuh | w00t: yep, seen similiar kind of things | 09:01 |
| dcthang | Stskeeps: how can I try it with mce gconf? actually donot know where to find it atm | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: gconf2-tool -R / or something | 09:04 |
| Sage | our mce and dsme are so old that we should update those :/ | 09:04 |
| Sage | however there is quite a lot patches on those that needs to be rebased. | 09:04 |
| * Sage creates bugs about those | 09:05 | |
| dcthang | ah ok. tnx Sstskeeps. | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: gconftool-2, i mean | 09:06 |
| dcthang | yep, only that tool in my system | 09:06 |
| w00t | Sage: "can't wait" ;) | 09:10 |
| Sage | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35 | 09:10 |
| Sage | w00t: ^ you want a challenge ;) | 09:10 |
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| w00t | not today at least, maybe if i get some time | 09:12 |
| dcthang | btw I have this error when trying to call a number: modem is not available or power down | 09:13 |
| dcthang | does it have a problem with ofono? | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | dcthang: from normal dialer? | 09:13 |
| dcthang | yes | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | SIM PIN? | 09:14 |
| dcthang | no | 09:14 |
| dcthang | before this, I still make call normally | 09:14 |
| Sage | and dsme bug https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36 | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | well, get the ofono tests and see what status is | 09:14 |
| dcthang | it has this suddently | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: how do you feel about a forked xorg-x11-server in our hardware adaptation? | 09:15 |
| Sage | o_0 | 09:16 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: what can be the reason for that? | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | well, let me just check some things first. | 09:16 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: http://build.meego.com/package/files?package=xorg-x11-server&project=home%3Amlehtonen%3Abranches%3Adevel%3Ax11%3ATrunk | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | see the dri2* patches? | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | that's required to upgrade our xorg-x11-fbdev-sgx | 09:20 |
| dcthang | simple solution for that case is to unplug SIM and plug it again -> work | 09:20 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: I though those patches are in upstream | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: haven't been able to find them in git, but, it seems like they were sent just before feb11.. and then not pushed to get integrated | 09:21 |
| Sage | I though I checked that alraeady at some point and we found them | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 09:22 |
| Sage | from some upstream thing | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | well i found them on mailing list | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | but no "merged" signal, or in git | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | as they completely change the ABI for DRI2 drivers i'm not sure i want them in core | 09:23 |
| * Sage is thinking what hell feels like | 09:23 | |
| Stskeeps | something like this | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | i'll check old logs about the DRI2 patches | 09:24 |
| Sage | I though we found those from somewhere | 09:25 |
| Sage | well, maybe not then :/ | 09:25 |
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| niqt | w00t: i have installed mobility contact, today writing a little example to try all | 09:39 |
| w00t | niqt: ok | 09:39 |
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| Sage | niqt: mobility contact? The mkcal organizer thing? | 10:25 |
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| niqt | Sage: yes | 10:27 |
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| niqt | i need for qmlcalendar | 10:27 |
| Sage | ok. Let me know how it turns out. | 10:27 |
| niqt | ok | 10:27 |
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| Stskeeps | http://code.google.com/p/maliit-plugin-jp/ | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 12:10 |
| veskuh | Stskeeps: jp-support fo Makoto? :-) | 12:10 |
| xruxa | nice | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | veskuh: well, for example, but good CJK support is essential for handsets | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | at least if you want to go into areas where you might actually make money | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:11 |
| xruxa | +1 | 12:11 |
| veskuh | true | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | so i'm happy to see stuff like that oss :) | 12:11 |
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| xruxa | Looks like one-man show and comes with input dictionary. Lovely. | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | it's amazing how nice plugins come out when you have a input framework that is usable many places and well, not shit - ie, requiring special closed source plugins to even have basic functionality | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | (hildon input method framework) | 12:14 |
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| Stskeeps | i will dearly wait for the klingon input method | 12:15 |
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| * xruxa is trying to make bubble faster. Go bubble, go! | 12:49 | |
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| w00t | xruxa: :) | 12:59 |
| xruxa | you might be laughing now but just wait ... | 13:00 |
| w00t | no, no laughs | 13:00 |
| w00t | i fully support your work :) | 13:00 |
| w00t | did you get maliit sorted out by the way? | 13:01 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: yeah, hildon IM was a big shame | 13:01 |
| w00t | and was -really- hard to use ... | 13:01 |
| xruxa | w00t: send a merge request. Have bad experience with those dusting around for a bit. | 13:02 |
| w00t | xruxa: don't worry, the maliit guys are pretty responsive :) | 13:02 |
| xruxa | they might be, I'm not. That merge request stretched my GIT skillz to the limit | 13:03 |
| w00t | hehe | 13:03 |
| w00t | if you need help, just poke | 13:03 |
| * w00t has been busy of late, but can try take time out to offer some pointers | 13:03 | |
| xruxa | appreciated | 13:03 |
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| veskuh_ | Nice we have now tasks on Nemo bugzilla also | 14:46 |
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| * xruxa is done torturing bubble for today, still too slow for N900 :( | 15:04 | |
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| marquiz_ | evening | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | evening marquiz_ | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | marquiz_: those DRI2 patches in xorg-x11-server, were they ever included in upstream xorg? | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | ran into them today again :) | 16:12 |
| marquiz_ | hmm, let me try to remember... | 16:12 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: for xorg-x11-fbdev?? | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | yes, the ones that enabled us to upgrade fbdev-sgx | 16:13 |
| marquiz_ | i mean upgrading that to the harmattan version? | 16:13 |
| marquiz_ | ah, k | 16:13 |
| marquiz_ | i guess they were never merged upstream | 16:13 |
| marquiz_ | but, iirc, they all are found on the mailing lists | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | i think it was somehow feb11 related that they never got pushed much after thatb | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | but at least we have them for 1.10.1 thanks to your work | 16:14 |
| marquiz_ | iirc (again), there were some changes in the dri2 api, so in that sense they were a bit intrusive | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:14 |
| marquiz_ | k, where did you find them? | 16:15 |
| marquiz_ | internal obs, prolly? | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | your home project on build.meego.com :) | 16:15 |
| marquiz_ | ah, there, i have always hated cleaning up ;) | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | just wanted to check if you had the same understanding that they were never really merged, so we remembered right :) | 16:17 |
| marquiz_ | yeah, that's how i remember it | 16:17 |
| marquiz_ | and yes, i guess the reason might be loss of motivation after "black friday" | 16:18 |
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| mbbjk | jh | 16:21 |
| mbbjk | hello | 16:21 |
| mbbjk | any body here? | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 16:21 |
| mbbjk | can u help me how to run nemo on n900 | 16:21 |
| mbbjk | i try google youtube but ther is not video how to install nemo | 16:22 |
| mbbjk | do u have any idea? | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC (please read all the warnings) together with an release image | 16:22 |
| mbbjk | meego and nemo are same? | 16:23 |
| veskuh_ | mbbjk: http://veskuh.blogspot.com/2011/11/brief-history-of-nemo-mobile.html | 16:23 |
| mbbjk | coz i got this http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20111128.3.CE.2011-12-01.2/images/ | 16:23 |
| veskuh_ | yes same instructions work | 16:23 |
| mbbjk | good ty | 16:24 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: for the past week i've taken a look into moslo (and made major modifications to suit my needs) | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | cool, what are the new things? | 16:29 |
| marquiz_ | i had previously missed a very important bit there: the source code for reboot2 -> now i'm able to dual-boot harmattan in secure mode | 16:29 |
| marquiz_ | works very well (with fb_text2screen) | 16:30 |
| marquiz_ | now i'm implementing automatic repartitioning of the emmc | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | i guess this is n950 specific | 16:30 |
| marquiz_ | hmm, don't know, really, not necessarily | 16:31 |
| marquiz_ | depends on the nolo on n9 | 16:31 |
| * Stskeeps goes take a look at reboot2 | 16:31 | |
| marquiz_ | if i just had a n9, i could test ;) | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i should really buy one.. :P | 16:31 |
| marquiz_ | so, if reboot2 works on n9, then nothing is n950-specific | 16:31 |
| Stskeeps | so, you're installing your own moslo in that area i presume | 16:32 |
| marquiz_ | yep | 16:32 |
| marquiz_ | my heavily modified moslo | 16:32 |
| mbbjk | is ther any new flash player for n900 ??? | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | mbbjk: nop, sorry | 16:33 |
| marquiz_ | now loading (cpio) initrd works too, though | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | marquiz: and with reboot2 you can then signal somehow to NOLO to load the harmattan kernel instead of moslo at startup | 16:33 |
| marquiz_ | so one can also load-only | 16:33 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: yep | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | well that's clever | 16:33 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: when calling reboot2 nolo always loads the kernel mtdpart, without examining nolo partition | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | unsure if that exists in the n9 stream, but for n950 that's quite nice | 16:35 |
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| Stskeeps | how do you flash your moslo anyway? | 16:37 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: yeah, i really don't know if it works for n9 :( | 16:37 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: with flasher | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:38 |
| marquiz_ | http://wiki.meego.com/User:Marquiz/N950 | 16:38 |
| marquiz_ | Stskeeps: if reboot2 doesn't work for n9, kexec might be the only option | 16:39 |
| marquiz_ | and it is, actually, for secure boot | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | i think the problem is more on the point of view that there's no moslo partition in NAND to my knowledge | 16:40 |
| marquiz_ | ah, that ruins it :( | 16:40 |
| marquiz_ | doesn't anybody in our (or your) team have one? ;) | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | i guess we could ask jukka to volunteer possibly, but let's see | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | having it for n950 would be a huge benefit at least | 16:42 |
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| aapo | Hi, I'm still running pre-released firmware on N950. Should I upgrade or test Nemo? | 19:11 |
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| veskuh_ | aapo: Well, Nemo is still work in progress, and not yet exactly ready for daily use.. For hacking and occasional use it is ok, but still some phone basics missing | 19:34 |
| veskuh_ | current bug list give quite good idea what is missing:https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=TRIAGEDUPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&product=Applications&product=Hardware%20adaptation&product=Middleware&product=MTF%20UX | 19:34 |
| aapo | veskuh_:that sounds actually good enough. Any thoughts about official firmware? I'm not upgraded yet because I want 'root'='super user' | 19:36 |
| veskuh_ | aapo: good question. You cannot flash moslo (that is needed for Nemo) on top of just any version. and afterwards you cannot necessarily downgrade back to any version as there has been some changes on boot loaders and such. | 19:39 |
| veskuh_ | unfortunately I do not have answer for you. I have done Nemo on top of 34-2 and that worked, and I think I also did it on top of 39-5, but that was our internal release if I remember correctly. | 19:41 |
| veskuh_ | I haven't tried if I could still get 34-2 back to the device | 19:42 |
| veskuh_ | aapo: one more thing, earlier marquiz said that he has been working on dual boot solution, that might be one thing to check.. see logs for details.. | 19:43 |
| dm8tbr | IIRC you need beta2 for moslo | 19:43 |
| dm8tbr | it will not work/screw up on beta1 | 19:44 |
| aapo | veskuh_: Truly speaking I hate Aegis so much that I'm not using Harmattan until it is totally hacked out | 19:44 |
| veskuh_ | aapo: :) | 19:44 |
| aapo | so can I install newest nemo straigth or should I do some upgrading/flashing? | 19:45 |
| dm8tbr | I would be very very surprised if that won't happen even on PR1.2 ;) | 19:45 |
| veskuh_ | aapo: it is like dm8tbr says, you need to have at least 34-2 first on device | 19:46 |
| veskuh_ | aapo: so flash that first, see that it boots and then you can put Nemo on it. | 19:46 |
| dm8tbr | going back from 39-5 aka beta3 should not be possible AFAIK | 19:46 |
| veskuh_ | dm8tbr: unfortunately true | 19:47 |
| dm8tbr | unless you have RDC, but that's not for mere mortals. | 19:47 |
| dm8tbr | I'd love to have that on my black N950 :D | 19:47 |
| aapo | ok, at this moment I have 22-6 | 19:50 |
| veskuh_ | aapo: yep, that is quite old. Surely you cannot go back to that if you flash something on it. | 19:51 |
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| aapo | veskuh_: yeah, but maybe it is time to step to the presence (or even future) | 19:52 |
| veskuh_ | :) | 19:52 |
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