Monday, 2013-12-16

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warzonhello all09:26
warzon i'm trying to use libhybris on hp touchpad with mer and getting strange error in gdb with test_egl  __current_locale_name (category=category@entry=5) at localename.c:2509:27
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UninstallStskeeps: good morning09:38
Stskeepsgood morning09:38
Uninstallmips fails are still there09:39
Stskeepsyeah, but not nearly as bad as before :P09:39
Uninstallbison, cairo, elfutils, glibc09:39
Stskeepsnod09:39
Uninstallqemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped <-- yeah, everything is fine09:40
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warzonhello09:52
warzonhas anyone experienced crash with libhybris on __current_locale_name in glibc?09:54
Stskeepsdid you patch your bionic09:54
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warzonno, it's because of that?09:54
Stskeepsyes, probably09:54
warzonin hybris distribution there is patch for gingerbread, but not for jb. i'm using cyanogenmod 10.1 (4.2.2) on touchpad.09:55
warzonis for jb patch is also neaded?09:56
Stskeepsprobably yes09:56
warzonthank you, i will be very pleased if you can tell me where i can find that patch?09:56
Stskeepsyou can probably use the one that ubuntu uses09:57
warzonthanks a lot for help09:59
warzonsomething like this http://pastie.org/pastes/7649385 ?10:03
merlin1991lbt: https://img.merproject.org/images/mer-sdk/mer-latest-sdk-rolling-chroot.tar.bz2 is still from 22-May-2013 22:11 didn't you say youd schedule a new build?10:05
lbtI did ... I just didn't give a release date ... it must be catching :D10:06
lbtI'm afk today ... that is on my xmas holiday todo list10:06
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merlin1991:)10:10
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UninstallStskeeps: can you try to retrigger glibc on mipsel? I wan to see if the sefault happens every time10:19
StskeepsUninstall: done10:19
Uninstallthank you10:19
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UninstallStskeeps: rpcgen is crashing on mipsel...10:40
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UninstallStskeeps: "{CO} The first invocation of rpcgen is also the first use of the recently11:03
Uninstallcompiled dynamic loader.  If there is any problem with the dynamic loader11:03
Uninstallit will more than likely fail to run rpcgen properly. This could be due to11:03
Uninstallany number of problems."11:03
Uninstallfrom glibc FAQs11:03
Stskeepsfun11:03
UninstallStskeeps: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=mips&package=glibc&project=mer-core%3Amipsel%3Adevel&repository=Core_mipsel <--- it seems so here11:06
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Stskeeps /opt/cross/bin/mipsel-meego-linux-gnu-ld: error in /opt/cross/lib/gcc/mipsel-meego-linux-gnu/4.8.2/crtendS.o(.eh_frame); no .eh_frame_hdr table will be created.11:09
Stskeepsthat doesn't look healthy11:09
UninstallStskeeps: so there must be a huge problem with crt*11:10
Stskeeps{standard input}: Assembler messages:11:12
Stskeeps{standard input}:92: Warning: no .cprestore pseudo-op used in PIC code11:12
Stskeepsin the cross compiler11:12
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Sfiet_Konstantinbetter ask here: do Mer provides an implementation of webdav / caldav / carddav ?11:16
Sfiet_Konstantinor maybe Nemo ?11:16
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UninstallSfiet_Konstantin: check for KDE/active stuff11:18
Sfiet_KonstantinUninstall: indeed, I was thinking about looking at their stuff11:19
Sfiet_Konstantinbut maybe there is a more generic implementation, and maybe it is already in mer / nemo11:19
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StskeepsUninstall: i'll check debian's11:20
UninstallStskeeps: I'm reading this mail in the meantime: https://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2013-01/msg00336.html11:21
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UninstallStskeeps: binutils has been updated recently, right?11:35
Stskeepsright11:36
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Uninstalltime for lunch12:00
UninstallStskeeps: I haven't found anything useful yet, I will spend more time on it after lunch12:00
Stskeepssame here12:01
UninstallStskeeps: by the way do you know any mipsel expert here around?12:01
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UninstallI'm back12:52
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UninstallStskeeps: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2003-09/msg01139.html13:09
Merbotgcc.gnu.org bug 2003 in other "libgcc ABI" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]13:09
Stskeeps2003, though13:11
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Uninstallyes :/13:13
UninstallStskeeps: do you remember if binutils has been updated before gcc?13:14
Stskeepsno, after13:19
Stskeepsi don't mind reverting13:19
UninstallStskeeps: I think we should try to go with a recent ld and elfutils before13:20
UninstallI'm not sure if it can be useful but I would like to try it13:20
Stskeepswell, i'll revert first, then we'll see13:21
Stskeepsbut yes, elfutils too13:21
Uninstallbinutils, elfutils, glibc, gcc <--- I would try this sequence and see what happens13:22
Stskeepsnod13:22
UninstallStskeeps: binutils is building again for all the arches, is that ok?13:26
Stskeepsyesx13:26
Stskeepsit'll take a bit but it's fine13:26
Uninstallok13:27
Uninstallanyway before that armv6l was close to the end13:27
Stskeepsgood, saw any errors?13:29
UninstallStskeeps: it seems ok, now perl is compiling13:34
UninstallStskeeps: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=mips&package=binutils&project=mer-core%3Amipsel%3Adevel&repository=Core_mipsel13:37
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UninstallStskeeps: OT question: do you remember which is the proper scheduler for armv6hl?13:41
Stskeepsarmv7el13:42
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UninstallStskeeps: I can bootstrap it using armv7hl, right?13:52
Stskeepsoh hl13:53
Stskeepsarmv8el and yes13:53
Uninstallok, cool13:53
notmartI have a new hardware adaption that should be almost ready (linux-sunxi for allwinner a10/a20 stuff)13:54
UninstallI have to spend sometime to understand this scheduler related stuff13:54
Uninstallnotmart: cool13:54
notmartcould it be published under nemo:devel:hw:linux-sunxi?13:54
notmart(and testing,stable, as usual)13:54
Uninstallthat's ok as soon as it is not mipsel ahaha13:54
notmartUninstall: eheh :) no is armv7hl ;)13:55
notmart(in theory also without hardfp even tough you would have it without x because video drivers require it)13:56
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Uninstallnotmart: by the way prepare yourself to test all the active stuff against gcc 4.8... it might be "funny" :D13:58
notmartUninstall: probably...13:58
Stskeepsnotmart: yes probably13:58
notmartfor the hardware release i'm sticking with an old mer release tough13:59
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notmartStskeeps: who i should poke? :)13:59
Uninstallanyway everything should fine as soon as you don't write code with something like QString a = NULL LOL13:59
Uninstall*should be fine14:00
Stskeepsnotmart: sage but he might be limited availability due to vacation14:00
* notmart writes him14:01
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notmartSage_: ping14:11
UninstallStskeeps: by the, talking about rpm... it seems that both openSUSE and Fedora are using the same version of it14:11
notmart(or anybody that can decide wether accept a new hardware adaptation project under nemo:hw:*)14:12
Uninstallthat is 4.11.114:12
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UninstallStskeeps: lbt: Do you have any opinion about upgrading rpm soon? (soon = next weeks)14:28
Uninstallwould be ok 4.11.1 version?14:28
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UninstallStskeeps: things are not going to be better: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=mips&package=elfutils&project=mer-core%3Amipsel%3Adevel&repository=Core_mipsel14:32
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UninstallStskeeps: do we really want -fexceptions everywhere?15:32
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Uninstalllbt: ping15:54
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lbtUninstall: pong15:55
Uninstalllbt: do you know if there is any good reason to build everything in Mer with -fexceptions ?15:55
lbtUninstall: no; I don't know that kind of thing - would need to research it :)15:57
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Uninstalllbt: I can't understand why is there15:59
Uninstallit comes from meego-rpm-config-0.18.tar.bz215:59
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lbtUninstall: what are the pros/cons of it15:59
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Uninstallwell, I'm investigating why mipsel with gcc 4.8 is oddly broken16:00
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lbtUninstall: it may simply be that given the use of Qt and hence C++ we are more likely to invoke C functions from C++16:02
lbthaving said that Qt notably doesn't use exceptions :D16:02
lbt(yet)16:02
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Uninstall_oh, timeout16:06
Uninstall_lbt: have you read my last messages here?16:06
Stskeeps[17:05] <lbt> Uninstall: it may simply be that given the use of Qt and hence C++ we are more likely to invoke C functions from C++16:06
Stskeeps[17:06] <lbt> having said that Qt notably doesn't use exceptions :D16:06
Stskeeps[17:06] <lbt> (yet)16:06
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Uninstall_I said "I think that it should be enabled explicitly for each package"16:08
lbtah, I missed that16:08
Uninstall_but I would really like to know the decision behind that16:08
lbtyes, I would too16:08
StskeepsUninstall_: perhaps historic16:09
lbtlets check MeeGo's commit logs ... wait they didn't believe in that :D16:09
Stskeepscheck .changes?16:09
lbttrue. that may have something16:09
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Uninstall_anyway that flag will build also stuff like coreutils with unwind tables...16:10
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lbtUninstall_: there needs to be a default; given that seems to be it then maybe it would be better to move away as needed16:11
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lbtso basically just live with it and fix builds/packaging where it makes sense16:12
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Uninstall_Stskeeps: do you mind to test to remove -fexceptions from gcc and glibc only on mipsel?16:18
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StskeepsUninstall_: i think -fexceptions come from fedora16:30
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Uninstall_Stskeeps: we should try to understand if it has to be disabled for some packages...16:36
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StskeepsUninstall_: i kinda wonder if anybody even uses mips with mer..17:05
Uninstall_Stskeeps: that's a good point17:05
Uninstall_on the other hand I'm trying to understand at this point if we are doing something bad somewhere17:05
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Stskeepsmips has always been a massively troubled child in fedora derived systems17:06
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StskeepsUninstall_: sent a query to mer-general@17:08
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Uninstall_ok17:10
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Uninstall_Stskeeps: I have a review for you :)18:15
Stskeepsokie?18:16
StskeepsUninstall_: jesus christ18:16
Stskeepsdo i dare wonder where that came from? :P18:16
Uninstall_Stskeeps: that's mine, but I've found some interesting information on gcc mailing list18:17
Uninstall_there is a mail from jakub@redhat that has some useful info18:17
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Uninstall_Stskeeps: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2002-11/msg01671.html18:18
Merbotgcc.gnu.org bug 2002 in c "problem (?) with variable length arrays extension" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]18:18
Uninstall_Stskeeps: I'm not sure at 100% but I'm pretty confident that it will work18:20
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Uninstall_now I must leave the office, later we'll how's going :)18:22
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Uninstall_Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1633 <-- it has been updated, the patch "was inverted"18:29
Stskeepsk18:29
Uninstall_thanks :)18:29
Uninstall_Stskeeps: I will offer you some beers first time when I see you around ;)18:30
StskeepsFOSDEM is probably next time18:30
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Uninstall_probably yes18:30
Uninstall_Stskeeps: well, I you will get some good belgium beers ;)18:31
Stskeepshehe ;)18:32
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cybrNautvgrade: people report problems with X11 on Kobo.  Have you worked that out, or do you use something different than X11 on mer?20:10
vgradecybrNaut: I had early mer + wayland qtcompositor no X20:11
cybrNautvgrade: thanks.  ATM, Kobo looks like a good candidate, considering you have something functional, with graphics, and debian has also been ported to it.  Seems like if Kobo decides to drop the ball on their old products one day, there would still be support from Mer and Debian projects20:13
cybrNautand that's what I think is important... all e-readers are proprietary from the factory, and all but Kobo seem to be entirely dependant on their vendors for support20:14
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cybrNautvgrade: can any model of kobo work with your hack?20:17
vgradecybrNaut: what I showed was a WIP not ready for day to day use20:21
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xSmurfoh wow this place is packed20:32
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CosmoHillhi xSmurf20:38
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xSmurfhey CosmoHill :)20:42
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xSmurfCosmoHill: I'm not actually here for Mer, I'm just trying to get frame buffer refreshing to work to run X in a debian chroot on my kobo20:52
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