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| warzon | hello all | 09:26 |
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| warzon | i'm trying to use libhybris on hp touchpad with mer and getting strange error in gdb with test_egl __current_locale_name (category=category@entry=5) at localename.c:25 | 09:27 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: good morning | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | good morning | 09:38 |
| Uninstall | mips fails are still there | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but not nearly as bad as before :P | 09:39 |
| Uninstall | bison, cairo, elfutils, glibc | 09:39 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 09:39 |
| Uninstall | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped <-- yeah, everything is fine | 09:40 |
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| warzon | hello | 09:52 |
| warzon | has anyone experienced crash with libhybris on __current_locale_name in glibc? | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | did you patch your bionic | 09:54 |
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| warzon | no, it's because of that? | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | yes, probably | 09:54 |
| warzon | in hybris distribution there is patch for gingerbread, but not for jb. i'm using cyanogenmod 10.1 (4.2.2) on touchpad. | 09:55 |
| warzon | is for jb patch is also neaded? | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | probably yes | 09:56 |
| warzon | thank you, i will be very pleased if you can tell me where i can find that patch? | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | you can probably use the one that ubuntu uses | 09:57 |
| warzon | thanks a lot for help | 09:59 |
| warzon | something like this http://pastie.org/pastes/7649385 ? | 10:03 |
| merlin1991 | lbt: https://img.merproject.org/images/mer-sdk/mer-latest-sdk-rolling-chroot.tar.bz2 is still from 22-May-2013 22:11 didn't you say youd schedule a new build? | 10:05 |
| lbt | I did ... I just didn't give a release date ... it must be catching :D | 10:06 |
| lbt | I'm afk today ... that is on my xmas holiday todo list | 10:06 |
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| merlin1991 | :) | 10:10 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: can you try to retrigger glibc on mipsel? I wan to see if the sefault happens every time | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: done | 10:19 |
| Uninstall | thank you | 10:19 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: rpcgen is crashing on mipsel... | 10:40 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: "{CO} The first invocation of rpcgen is also the first use of the recently | 11:03 |
| Uninstall | compiled dynamic loader. If there is any problem with the dynamic loader | 11:03 |
| Uninstall | it will more than likely fail to run rpcgen properly. This could be due to | 11:03 |
| Uninstall | any number of problems." | 11:03 |
| Uninstall | from glibc FAQs | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | fun | 11:03 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=mips&package=glibc&project=mer-core%3Amipsel%3Adevel&repository=Core_mipsel <--- it seems so here | 11:06 |
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| Stskeeps | /opt/cross/bin/mipsel-meego-linux-gnu-ld: error in /opt/cross/lib/gcc/mipsel-meego-linux-gnu/4.8.2/crtendS.o(.eh_frame); no .eh_frame_hdr table will be created. | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | that doesn't look healthy | 11:09 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: so there must be a huge problem with crt* | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | {standard input}: Assembler messages: | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | {standard input}:92: Warning: no .cprestore pseudo-op used in PIC code | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | in the cross compiler | 11:12 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | better ask here: do Mer provides an implementation of webdav / caldav / carddav ? | 11:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or maybe Nemo ? | 11:16 |
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| Uninstall | Sfiet_Konstantin: check for KDE/active stuff | 11:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Uninstall: indeed, I was thinking about looking at their stuff | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but maybe there is a more generic implementation, and maybe it is already in mer / nemo | 11:19 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall: i'll check debian's | 11:20 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I'm reading this mail in the meantime: https://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2013-01/msg00336.html | 11:21 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: binutils has been updated recently, right? | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | right | 11:36 |
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| Uninstall | time for lunch | 12:00 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I haven't found anything useful yet, I will spend more time on it after lunch | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | same here | 12:01 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: by the way do you know any mipsel expert here around? | 12:01 |
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| Uninstall | I'm back | 12:52 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2003-09/msg01139.html | 13:09 |
| Merbot | gcc.gnu.org bug 2003 in other "libgcc ABI" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | 2003, though | 13:11 |
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| Uninstall | yes :/ | 13:13 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: do you remember if binutils has been updated before gcc? | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | no, after | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | i don't mind reverting | 13:19 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I think we should try to go with a recent ld and elfutils before | 13:20 |
| Uninstall | I'm not sure if it can be useful but I would like to try it | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | well, i'll revert first, then we'll see | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, elfutils too | 13:21 |
| Uninstall | binutils, elfutils, glibc, gcc <--- I would try this sequence and see what happens | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 13:22 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: binutils is building again for all the arches, is that ok? | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | yesx | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | it'll take a bit but it's fine | 13:26 |
| Uninstall | ok | 13:27 |
| Uninstall | anyway before that armv6l was close to the end | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | good, saw any errors? | 13:29 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: it seems ok, now perl is compiling | 13:34 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=mips&package=binutils&project=mer-core%3Amipsel%3Adevel&repository=Core_mipsel | 13:37 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: OT question: do you remember which is the proper scheduler for armv6hl? | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | armv7el | 13:42 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I can bootstrap it using armv7hl, right? | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | oh hl | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | armv8el and yes | 13:53 |
| Uninstall | ok, cool | 13:53 |
| notmart | I have a new hardware adaption that should be almost ready (linux-sunxi for allwinner a10/a20 stuff) | 13:54 |
| Uninstall | I have to spend sometime to understand this scheduler related stuff | 13:54 |
| Uninstall | notmart: cool | 13:54 |
| notmart | could it be published under nemo:devel:hw:linux-sunxi? | 13:54 |
| notmart | (and testing,stable, as usual) | 13:54 |
| Uninstall | that's ok as soon as it is not mipsel ahaha | 13:54 |
| notmart | Uninstall: eheh :) no is armv7hl ;) | 13:55 |
| notmart | (in theory also without hardfp even tough you would have it without x because video drivers require it) | 13:56 |
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| Uninstall | notmart: by the way prepare yourself to test all the active stuff against gcc 4.8... it might be "funny" :D | 13:58 |
| notmart | Uninstall: probably... | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | notmart: yes probably | 13:58 |
| notmart | for the hardware release i'm sticking with an old mer release tough | 13:59 |
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| notmart | Stskeeps: who i should poke? :) | 13:59 |
| Uninstall | anyway everything should fine as soon as you don't write code with something like QString a = NULL LOL | 13:59 |
| Uninstall | *should be fine | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | notmart: sage but he might be limited availability due to vacation | 14:00 |
| * notmart writes him | 14:01 | |
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| notmart | Sage_: ping | 14:11 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: by the, talking about rpm... it seems that both openSUSE and Fedora are using the same version of it | 14:11 |
| notmart | (or anybody that can decide wether accept a new hardware adaptation project under nemo:hw:*) | 14:12 |
| Uninstall | that is 4.11.1 | 14:12 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: lbt: Do you have any opinion about upgrading rpm soon? (soon = next weeks) | 14:28 |
| Uninstall | would be ok 4.11.1 version? | 14:28 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: things are not going to be better: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=mips&package=elfutils&project=mer-core%3Amipsel%3Adevel&repository=Core_mipsel | 14:32 |
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| Uninstall | lbt: ping | 15:54 |
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| lbt | Uninstall: pong | 15:55 |
| Uninstall | lbt: do you know if there is any good reason to build everything in Mer with -fexceptions ? | 15:55 |
| lbt | Uninstall: no; I don't know that kind of thing - would need to research it :) | 15:57 |
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| Uninstall | lbt: I can't understand why is there | 15:59 |
| Uninstall | it comes from meego-rpm-config-0.18.tar.bz2 | 15:59 |
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| lbt | Uninstall: what are the pros/cons of it | 15:59 |
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| Uninstall | well, I'm investigating why mipsel with gcc 4.8 is oddly broken | 16:00 |
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| lbt | Uninstall: it may simply be that given the use of Qt and hence C++ we are more likely to invoke C functions from C++ | 16:02 |
| lbt | having said that Qt notably doesn't use exceptions :D | 16:02 |
| lbt | (yet) | 16:02 |
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| Uninstall_ | oh, timeout | 16:06 |
| Uninstall_ | lbt: have you read my last messages here? | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | [17:05] <lbt> Uninstall: it may simply be that given the use of Qt and hence C++ we are more likely to invoke C functions from C++ | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | [17:06] <lbt> having said that Qt notably doesn't use exceptions :D | 16:06 |
| Stskeeps | [17:06] <lbt> (yet) | 16:06 |
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| Uninstall_ | I said "I think that it should be enabled explicitly for each package" | 16:08 |
| lbt | ah, I missed that | 16:08 |
| Uninstall_ | but I would really like to know the decision behind that | 16:08 |
| lbt | yes, I would too | 16:08 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall_: perhaps historic | 16:09 |
| lbt | lets check MeeGo's commit logs ... wait they didn't believe in that :D | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | check .changes? | 16:09 |
| lbt | true. that may have something | 16:09 |
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| Uninstall_ | anyway that flag will build also stuff like coreutils with unwind tables... | 16:10 |
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| lbt | Uninstall_: there needs to be a default; given that seems to be it then maybe it would be better to move away as needed | 16:11 |
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| lbt | so basically just live with it and fix builds/packaging where it makes sense | 16:12 |
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| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: do you mind to test to remove -fexceptions from gcc and glibc only on mipsel? | 16:18 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall_: i think -fexceptions come from fedora | 16:30 |
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| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: we should try to understand if it has to be disabled for some packages... | 16:36 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall_: i kinda wonder if anybody even uses mips with mer.. | 17:05 |
| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: that's a good point | 17:05 |
| Uninstall_ | on the other hand I'm trying to understand at this point if we are doing something bad somewhere | 17:05 |
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| Stskeeps | mips has always been a massively troubled child in fedora derived systems | 17:06 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall_: sent a query to mer-general@ | 17:08 |
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| Uninstall_ | ok | 17:10 |
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| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: I have a review for you :) | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | okie? | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall_: jesus christ | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | do i dare wonder where that came from? :P | 18:16 |
| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: that's mine, but I've found some interesting information on gcc mailing list | 18:17 |
| Uninstall_ | there is a mail from jakub@redhat that has some useful info | 18:17 |
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| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2002-11/msg01671.html | 18:18 |
| Merbot | gcc.gnu.org bug 2002 in c "problem (?) with variable length arrays extension" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 18:18 |
| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: I'm not sure at 100% but I'm pretty confident that it will work | 18:20 |
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| Uninstall_ | now I must leave the office, later we'll how's going :) | 18:22 |
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| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1633 <-- it has been updated, the patch "was inverted" | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | k | 18:29 |
| Uninstall_ | thanks :) | 18:29 |
| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: I will offer you some beers first time when I see you around ;) | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | FOSDEM is probably next time | 18:30 |
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| Uninstall_ | probably yes | 18:30 |
| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: well, I you will get some good belgium beers ;) | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | hehe ;) | 18:32 |
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| cybrNaut | vgrade: people report problems with X11 on Kobo. Have you worked that out, or do you use something different than X11 on mer? | 20:10 |
| vgrade | cybrNaut: I had early mer + wayland qtcompositor no X | 20:11 |
| cybrNaut | vgrade: thanks. ATM, Kobo looks like a good candidate, considering you have something functional, with graphics, and debian has also been ported to it. Seems like if Kobo decides to drop the ball on their old products one day, there would still be support from Mer and Debian projects | 20:13 |
| cybrNaut | and that's what I think is important... all e-readers are proprietary from the factory, and all but Kobo seem to be entirely dependant on their vendors for support | 20:14 |
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| cybrNaut | vgrade: can any model of kobo work with your hack? | 20:17 |
| vgrade | cybrNaut: what I showed was a WIP not ready for day to day use | 20:21 |
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| xSmurf | oh wow this place is packed | 20:32 |
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| CosmoHill | hi xSmurf | 20:38 |
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| xSmurf | hey CosmoHill :) | 20:42 |
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| xSmurf | CosmoHill: I'm not actually here for Mer, I'm just trying to get frame buffer refreshing to work to run X in a debian chroot on my kobo | 20:52 |
| * CosmoHill smiles and nods | 20:53 | |
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