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| CosmoHill | night night, slaapwel | 00:46 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall: finally at qtwebkit | 08:47 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: everything seems good right now | 10:47 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, bootstrapping rest of archs now too | 10:47 |
| Uninstall | cool | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | so we'll see arm/mips failurse | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully not too many | 10:58 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I'm scared about mips | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | wait until we get aarch64 | 11:03 |
| Uninstall | lol | 11:03 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I think we have to update qemu before that | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | probably yes | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | i need to decide about /lib vs /lib64, too | 11:05 |
| stephg | /lib please! | 11:06 |
| stephg | (unless it's an RHism, RH does /lib64 and /usr/lib64 and it's a pain (imo) | 11:07 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: without multilib, right? | 11:08 |
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| Stskeeps | because on aarch64 it maay make sense to have multilib | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | but i'm really not sure as it's a nightmare in itself | 11:10 |
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| Uninstall | I'm not sure how much it can be useful | 11:11 |
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| Uninstall | has anyone altrady tried to kickstart and boot mer with gcc 4.8? | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | not yet | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | you can probably do it with manual patterns off mer-core:i486:devel | 11:27 |
| Uninstall | I would like to benchmark boot times and Qt apps performances | 11:30 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall: ugh @ mipsel | 14:21 |
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| covox | thp: ping | 14:34 |
| thp | covox: pong | 14:35 |
| covox | the SDL guys just mainlined (most of) the wayland driver | 14:35 |
| covox | however they held off on your fine qtwayland extension stuff until they could get a confirmation on the license | 14:36 |
| thp | covox: wasn't the license already sdl-compatible? | 14:36 |
| covox | it should be | 14:37 |
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| covox | I think they just want to hear from the author that you're ok with the wacky zlib variant they have going on | 14:37 |
| thp | covox: sure, whom should i talk to? | 14:38 |
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| covox | could you give a quick mail to gabriel jacobo, gabomdq@gmail.com ? | 14:38 |
| covox | or to the SDL list, if you're on that | 14:38 |
| thp | covox: sure - what should i write? that applying the license from http://hg.libsdl.org/SDL/file/default/COPYING.txt is okay for my SDL wayland code at https://github.com/thp/SDL/tree/wayland-rpm/src/video/wayland ? | 14:40 |
| covox | http://lists.libsdl.org/pipermail/sdl-libsdl.org/2013-December/092302.html - thread | 14:41 |
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| covox | that sounds okay, would you have no problem with the headers being changed to the standard one? | 14:42 |
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| thp | covox: yeah, i'd be fine with that | 15:34 |
| covox | awesome | 15:34 |
| thp | covox: any eta for when the qtwayland patches will land in a release version of SDL 2? | 15:36 |
| thp | covox: would be cool to flip our packages over to use just plain vanilla upstream SDL without any patches :) | 15:37 |
| covox | thp: at a guess, next release would be in maybe a month or two? | 15:40 |
| covox | it's up to slouken really | 15:41 |
| covox | also there are mer packages? | 15:41 |
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| thp | covox: yes, https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/libsdl (in nemo mobile) | 15:48 |
| thp | covox: cool, we can probably build from SDL hg until the release then once the patch is in | 15:48 |
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| covox | man, why didn't I think of checking | 15:51 |
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| drf__ | Stskeeps: just to add moar pain, I pushed a MR for updating v8, as it was rotting | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | drf__: a build monitor that's all green is boring anyway | 16:13 |
| drf__ | Stskeeps: isn't it? :) | 16:13 |
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| drf__ | jokes aside, our v8 was 3y+ old and not so good | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | agreed | 16:15 |
| drf__ | and now that qt is drifting away from v8 we have no option but to have our own for stuff like pacrunner or node | 16:15 |
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| Stskeeps | o/ smoku | 17:08 |
| smoku | hi. who should I bug with issues with mer bugzilla? | 17:08 |
| smoku | hi Stskeeps | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: i guess me, what's wrong with it? | 17:08 |
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| smoku | Your user account for merproject.org is : jakub | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 17:09 |
| smoku | jakub? my name has nothing in common with 'jakub' ;-) | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that does seem a bit strange :) | 17:09 |
| smoku | are you able to change it? | 17:10 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm looking, it may be a problem in LDAP in which case it's lbt | 17:10 |
| smoku | I wanted to log in to OBS and 'jakub' is not what I want ;-) | 17:10 |
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| Stskeeps | and the user ids in bugzilla is in no way related.. hmm | 17:12 |
| smoku | huh? I am following https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/OBS | 17:12 |
| smoku | "To get started you will need to create a Mer account on Bugzilla which is also used for OBS (note: account name, not email)." | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | right, can you log in with e-mail + your password on bugs.merproject.org ? and also with your login name + password there | 17:13 |
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| smoku | i concur. I was able to log in to bugzilla using my email + password | 17:14 |
| Stskeeps | okay, does login name (not jakub) work too? | 17:14 |
| smoku | I did it to check what my user name is to log to OBS | 17:14 |
| smoku | but... 'jakub'? :) | 17:14 |
| smoku | should I try it? | 17:15 |
| Stskeeps | well, try 'smoku' first | 17:15 |
| smoku | I could create the home repos for 'jakub' which I don't want ;-) | 17:16 |
| smoku | 'smoku' did work :) | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | does jakub work, too? ;) | 17:19 |
| smoku | Project Name: | 17:19 |
| smoku | home:jakub | 17:19 |
| smoku | Title: | 17:19 |
| smoku | well | 17:19 |
| smoku | worked too ;-) | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | welll. | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 17:20 |
| smoku | Did I mention I am a "big" fan of LDAP? ;) | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | i love single sign on, the weird issues we get.. | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:20 |
| smoku | especially lightweight part of it ;D | 17:21 |
| smoku | anyways... I'm in :) | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: btw, want a demo of the jolla device at some point? | 17:22 |
| smoku | is there any way of recovering my home repo of MeeGo OBS? | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, let's see.. | 17:22 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, I don't understand the question | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: well, i'm still in warsaw, if you'd like to try out the first mer-based phone :) | 17:23 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, oh... surely :D | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: http://skeiron.org/repo/repo.pub.meego.com/home:/smoku/ and http://skeiron.org/repo/repo.pub.meego.com/home:/smoku%3a/ probably has your src rpms | 17:24 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, it's just the repos? no OBS API there? | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | well, somebody synced them off before it was shut down | 17:24 |
| smoku | good enough :) | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | not sure if it has it though :/ | 17:25 |
| smoku | it's ok to pull this in to Mer OBS? | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | looks like there's no rpms directly there.. :/ | 17:26 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I'm going to fix gcc on mips | 17:27 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: did it already | 17:27 |
| Stskeeps | it was simple | 17:27 |
| Uninstall | cool | 17:28 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: http://mirror.lxer.com/harmattan/home/rzr/var/cache/url/http/repo.pub.meego.com/Project:/Cordia:/ | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | that looks saner | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: i can recommend osc importsrcpkg | 17:29 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, thx | 17:31 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: elfutils, bison, glibc has problems though, though that may be due to gcc not compiling | 17:32 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I think so | 17:33 |
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| lbt | smoku: there are 2 accounts with that email | 17:37 |
| lbt | looks like it got confused with xruxa | 17:38 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, seems like obs will be nicely heated overnight now | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:39 |
| lbt | :) | 17:39 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: do you know who xruxa is? | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes, jakub pavelek | 17:40 |
| lbt | I do recall *way* back having some confusion ove the jakub name in LDAP | 17:41 |
| lbt | logs reveal nothing | 17:41 |
| Stskeeps | seperate person from smoku for sure ;) | 17:41 |
| lbt | I suspect I fixed it badly | 17:41 |
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| lbt | yeah xruxa is on the system | 17:41 |
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| smoku | IIRC I was one of the first creating account in new Mer infra. there was a lot of jiggling parts then ;-) | 17:42 |
| lbt | smoku: yeah - I think it was due to that | 17:43 |
| merlin1991 | smoku: are you back working on cordia ? | 17:44 |
| smoku | most importanly. 'smoku' works with the password I'm familiar with ;) | 17:44 |
| smoku | merlin1991, there is unusual interest in Cordia lately. several people contacted me during last weeks. | 17:45 |
| smoku | merlin1991, I thaought the least I could do is to make source packages available again, for them to work with | 17:45 |
| merlin1991 | I wonder how tied in hildon-desktop is with X11, or in other words how hard it is to move it to wayland | 17:45 |
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| merlin1991 | hm "All users have a home:<login> project by default, and can also create new sub projects. New project outside of your home namespace can get requested via bugzilla. To discuss the requested project setup, please use the opensuse-buildservice@opensuse.org mailing list." | 17:47 |
| merlin1991 | bugzilla is also a link to the opensuse bugzilla | 17:47 |
| smoku | merlin1991, HEAVILY tied in. that's why I abandoned my attempt to port Hildon to Mutter. to much reliance in MatchBox features I needed to rewrite | 17:47 |
| smoku | but I got myself a cheapo Dell Streak 5 again and I would like to toy around with Mer on it :) | 17:49 |
| merlin1991 | Stskeeps: how would I go about changing my email in mer obs, edit user data lets me edit my name, nothing else | 17:49 |
| lbt | smoku: OK ... bz should be fixed ... let hope it doesn't blat anything :) | 17:51 |
| lbt | merlin1991: you need to change it on bugzilla | 17:52 |
| lbt | that will update LDAP and might change on OBS | 17:52 |
| lbt | "might" because OBS may pre-load a user table on initial login and may not be bright enough to update when LDAP changes | 17:53 |
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| merlin1991 | lbt: bugzilla as in https://bugs.nemomobile.org ? | 17:54 |
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| lbt | merlin1991: https://bugs.merproject.org | 17:55 |
| lbt | which is the master | 17:55 |
| merlin1991 | hm no options to change my mail there | 17:56 |
| lbt | maybe I have to do it for you | 17:57 |
| lbt | old email ? | 17:57 |
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| cybrNaut | vgrade: what OS is on the Kobo readers from the factory? i'm trying to decide between Kobo and iRex iLiad | 18:01 |
| cybrNaut | iRex is linux (from the factory).. while Kobo does not say what their OS is (a bit of a put-off) | 18:02 |
| Uninstall | do you remember which is the right scheduler for armv6hl? | 18:02 |
| cybrNaut | I know Mer can be put on Kobo, but I'd like to know what alternatives there are (in case I don't like the Mer OS) | 18:03 |
| Uninstall | cybrNaut: don't misunderstand me, but I think that an eInk reader is pretty useless with just mer ;) | 18:04 |
| Uninstall | cybrNaut: you need some kind of UI on top of mer | 18:05 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, what about that dinner I promised you? ;-) | 18:05 |
| cybrNaut | Uninstall: ah, so it's half-baked.. i'll look closer at the iRex product lines then | 18:05 |
| cybrNaut | i want an e-reader that is fully FOSS, and functional for reading books | 18:06 |
| Uninstall | cybrNaut: the point is that mer is just a rather minimal set of packages | 18:06 |
| smoku | cybrNaut, I doubt you would find one | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: well, now the situation is a little more complicated since i got a son in july :) | 18:08 |
| cybrNaut | smoku: in that case, then I would apparently be stuck with getting a netbook that works with gnu/linux, and replacing the screen with a pixelQI one | 18:09 |
| lbt | cybrNaut: it's half-baked in the same way that the linux kernel is half-baked :) | 18:09 |
| cybrNaut | i was trying to avoid making a project out of it | 18:09 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, LOL... :D well.... I'll get "something" in july too ;-) | 18:10 |
| Uninstall | lbt: I think we need to set up a new homepage for mer ;) | 18:12 |
| smoku | cybrNaut, I settled with Nook Glow, as it's pretty hackable and I could put anything I want on it :) | 18:12 |
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| lbt | Uninstall: yeah ... xmas is coming | 18:13 |
| lbt | Uninstall: the main driver behind that page was to setup a bank account to handle finances ... hint, hint | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: cool, congrats :) | 18:14 |
| Uninstall | lol | 18:14 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, thx. u2. :) | 18:14 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, anyway, invitation is still standing :) | 18:14 |
| cybrNaut | smoku: nook runs android, correct? | 18:15 |
| smoku | cybrNaut, correct | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: yeah, i'll see what i can do about that one, but for now a coffee is probably easier to organize as it's a major semi-military-like operation to even get out of the house all three of us ;) | 18:18 |
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| cybrNaut | smoku: Android devices tend to come bundled with non-removable apps. is that also the case with the nook? Do you need to root it to remove garbage? | 18:21 |
| smoku | cybrNaut, yes. you need to root it. but then you're free to do whatever you want to | 18:22 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, LOL.... I know what you mean :D | 18:23 |
| cybrNaut | smoku: i'll keep Nook in mind. My hang-up is not wanting to financially support controlling companies, even though I can take back control | 18:25 |
| cybrNaut | there are a hell of a lot of linux-based e-readers, so i'd be surprised if not a single one is fully FOSS | 18:26 |
| cybrNaut | http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_Reader_Matrix <= interesting comparison of readers.. not many winCE devices | 18:26 |
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| cybrNaut | can Mer be dual-booted with linux, on a Kobo? | 18:30 |
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| cybrNaut | if the proprietary linux stuff were on one partition, and Mer on another, that would be a functional compromise | 18:32 |
| Uninstall | cybrNaut: the problem is that you need to find some eInk reader software to run on top of Mer | 18:33 |
| Uninstall | cybrNaut: by the way you can install mer as you want | 18:34 |
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| smoku | Stskeeps, how much of android do one need to use libhybris? is bionic enough? | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: in practice you don't need to use anything but the android HAL and it's dependencies | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: you patch bionic and a few other places and you can dlopen | 18:59 |
| smoku | Stskeeps, do I have to build it, or just copy some .so from /system ? | 19:05 |
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| shmerl | Hi. I'm trying to figure out how to write a yaml spec for libopus. Looking at libvorbis now. How does it specify where to place what? (i.e. /lib and etc.). http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/libvorbis.git;a=blob_plain;f=libvorbis.yaml;hb=HEAD | 19:18 |
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| situ | What's the right way to deploy a library on Sailfish VM (I have forked the library and made changes in it) ? | 19:31 |
| situ | Should I make an rpm for it through build.merproject.org ? | 19:32 |
| situ | hmm or I can just make an rpm of it on my local system and deploy it (why I didn't think this before) :) | 19:33 |
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| lbt | there is no general 'right' way | 19:35 |
| lbt | I use mb2 locally to just build rpms | 19:35 |
| lbt | OBS is good if you want collaboration | 19:35 |
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| situ | Ok, I never used mb2. But for now just deploying rpm by building it in QtCreator works for me. | 19:42 |
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| cybrNaut | Kobo devices force registration | 19:46 |
| cybrNaut | fuck that... i don't want a babysitter | 19:46 |
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| vgrade | cybrNaut: kobo is linux based, my touch is running a heavily patched Qt4 version for ui , https://github.com/kobolabs | 20:03 |
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| cybrNaut | vgrade: at the moment, i'm thinking Onyx and PocketBook are better companies to support, because they seem less controlling (they run on linux and don't force registration with a store) | 20:07 |
| cybrNaut | they may not be as good or popular as kobo | 20:08 |
| cybrNaut | but hacking to get some control is not ideal, because the manufacturer is still rewarded with my business | 20:08 |
| vgrade | cybrNaut: my kobo choice was driven by great end of line pricing on the touch and the guthub content | 20:11 |
| cybrNaut | what's guthub? is that like git? are you saying there are a lot of apps for it? | 20:14 |
| shmerl | github is a repository for many open source projects: https://github.com | 20:15 |
| vgrade | https://github.com/kobolabs has source for kobo products | 20:18 |
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| RzR | Stskeeps, hi, are you checking my online archive ? is it ok ? | 20:47 |
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