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Stskeeps | good morning timoph | 05:37 |
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timoph | morn | 05:37 |
timoph | lets see if I manage to get things crashing today :p | 05:38 |
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Bostik | morning | 07:08 |
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timoph | hmmh. can't seem to get started doing stuff(tm) today | 09:25 |
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Superpelican | vgrade:I've now tried tinycore with my own uImage:it doesn't boot | 09:45 |
Superpelican | vgrade:So likely it's my kernel | 09:45 |
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Superpelican | vgrade:But the problem is, is that it looks like the tinycore rootfs is packed into a "uCore" | 09:47 |
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Superpelican | vgrade:So I can't just replace the tinycore default kernel's modules with my modules | 09:47 |
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Superpelican | vgrade:And what if the tinycore modules don't match the version of my own kernel? | 09:53 |
Superpelican | vgrade:So I'll never know whether it really is my kernel or the combination | 09:53 |
Superpelican | I don't mind compiling a new kernel | 09:55 |
Superpelican | It's just that I'm not really looking forward to manually have to edit all those CONFIG's that Mer needs :( | 09:55 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:I assume when you enable an ARM errata option in make menuconfig, you enable a workaround/fix for the errata and not disable the workaround (for debugging purposes etc.)? | 11:40 |
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sledges | Superpelican, what about this one: https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=kernel-adaptation-n900.config&package=kernel-adaptation-n900&project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap3%3An900&rev=719a0413fb6e1438eeb2510db72083f7 ? | 11:43 |
* sledges gets twitches seeing all those tens of patches among package files... | 11:45 | |
Superpelican | sledges:ctrl+f for "errata" doesn't find anything | 11:45 |
sledges | Superpelican, there's an error with OBS file viewer and ctrl+f (in chromium for sure) | 11:46 |
sledges | download the file and search again | 11:46 |
Superpelican | sledges:I'm using Firefox | 11:46 |
Superpelican | but will download anyway | 11:46 |
sledges | Superpelican, same problem on firefox | 11:47 |
sledges | (just checked, eh..) | 11:47 |
Superpelican | sledges:How do I download | 11:47 |
Superpelican | sledges:I mean without downloading the whole repo | 11:47 |
sledges | Ctrl+A Ctrl+C | 11:47 |
Superpelican | nvm | 11:47 |
Superpelican | I've found the button | 11:47 |
sledges | or that :P | 11:48 |
sledges | errata is there ;) | 11:48 |
Superpelican | but not set | 11:48 |
sledges | correct! :D | 11:49 |
Superpelican | but a10 is a different SoC | 11:49 |
Superpelican | and a hw bug could lead to strange things | 11:49 |
Superpelican | and if sth weird happens, you'll never be sure why | 11:50 |
sledges | a10? sorry, i thought you wanted to have nemo -flashed- on n900 (instead of µSD way) | 11:51 |
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Superpelican | eh, no | 11:56 |
Superpelican | I'm now trying to port Mer/Nemo to my chinese android tablet | 11:56 |
Superpelican | which is a rebranded Point of View Protab 2 XXL | 11:56 |
Superpelican | based on Allwinner A10 | 11:56 |
Superpelican | Might try to find a new, stronger magnet in today | 11:57 |
Superpelican | But gave up for now | 11:57 |
Superpelican | No, I can't flash Nemo to eMMC | 11:57 |
Superpelican | It's my only phone | 11:58 |
Superpelican | so I can't delete Maemo | 11:58 |
sledges | Superpelican, do you have an OBS repo for a10 ? | 11:58 |
Superpelican | not yet | 11:58 |
Superpelican | but vgrade has already worked on A10 hw adaptation | 11:58 |
Superpelican | there are already images for some devices | 11:58 |
sledges | Superpelican, so did notmart and mdfe | 11:58 |
Superpelican | I know | 11:59 |
Superpelican | :) | 11:59 |
Superpelican | "did" | 11:59 |
sledges | and they are pretty active on OBS, busy freshening up kernel | 11:59 |
Superpelican | ok | 11:59 |
sledges | "are" :P | 11:59 |
sledges | last change: 23 hours ago ;) | 11:59 |
Superpelican | was getting a little scared ;) | 11:59 |
sledges | so why don't you reference their repos? | 11:59 |
Superpelican | I thought: is sunxi so hopeless? :P | 11:59 |
sledges | one has broken u-boot, the other has broken kernel :D take the best of both worlds :D | 11:59 |
Superpelican | hmm can look at their .config | 12:00 |
Superpelican | who has the working kernel? | 12:00 |
sledges | 'cause they already did most of work for you | 12:00 |
sledges | https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=home%3Amdfe%3Ahw%3Asunxi | 12:00 |
sledges | https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=home%3Anotmart%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Amdfe%3Ahw%3Asunxi | 12:00 |
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Superpelican | sledges:Have you already seen https://sailfishos.org/presentations/qtdevdays_beijing_2013_jpetrell.pdf | 12:01 |
sledges | yes | 12:01 |
Superpelican | sledges:Sfiet_Konstantin just shared on #SailFish | 12:01 |
Superpelican | cool isn't it? | 12:01 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | it was shared yesterday on #JollaMobile | 12:01 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 12:01 |
sledges | anyway, those guys are working on different sunxi branches | 12:02 |
Superpelican | I'm really looking forward to Qt5 on Jolla | 12:02 |
Superpelican | GNU/Linux future is looking awesome | 12:02 |
sledges | notmart on sunxi-eoma68 | 12:02 |
Superpelican | with Wayland, Qt5 and Jolla | 12:02 |
Superpelican | :) | 12:02 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Superpelican: http://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/comments-on-jolla-ui/ | 12:02 |
Superpelican | will check obs now ;) | 12:02 |
sledges | mdfe on stage/sunxi-3.4 | 12:03 |
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Superpelican | sledges:Both obs repo's are on build.merproject.org, right? | 12:04 |
Superpelican | hmm looks like mdfe has the broken u-boot | 12:05 |
Superpelican | so the kernel must work then :) | 12:05 |
Superpelican | https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor?blocked=0&building=0&dispatching=0&finished=0&project=home%3Amdfe%3Ahw%3Asunxi&scheduled=0&signing=0&succeeded=0 | 12:05 |
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sledges | it's a fresh u-boot build, i think it's only the packaging problem | 12:05 |
sledges | looking into the error | 12:05 |
sledges | basically, you branch the whole repo (or package-by-package) into your own repo | 12:06 |
sledges | and start having fun :) | 12:06 |
Superpelican | sledges:hmm mdfe seems to have not set the errata's | 12:07 |
Superpelican | sledges:So I won't either ;) | 12:07 |
sledges | :) | 12:07 |
sledges | to the awesome future of GNU/Linux!:)! | 12:07 |
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Superpelican | sledges: :) | 12:08 |
Superpelican | sledges:Should I set "Use ARM EABI to compile kernel" when compiling kernel in sb2 armv7hl in Mer SDK? | 12:09 |
Superpelican | sledges:Or will it run an ARM emulation layer in another ARM emulation layer then? | 12:09 |
Superpelican | vgrade:Found something interesting: the default kernel command string includes console=ttyS0 ! | 12:10 |
sledges | sb2 *should* be equivalent to what OBS does :") | 12:11 |
sledges | or you can always osc build locally too ;) | 12:12 |
Superpelican | vgrade, Stskeeps:ah, I think I forgot to enable the "Map console to the primary display device" option ;) | 12:18 |
Superpelican | Maybe that's why I didn't see anything on the screen | 12:19 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:Should I enable Android drivers support for libhybris? | 12:22 |
Stskeeps | sorry, bit busy right now | 12:22 |
Superpelican | ok | 12:22 |
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sledges | Superpelican, in case you're not aware: default kernel command line can be overwritten by u-boot's default bootcmd which in turn can be overwritten by boot.scr if present | 12:23 |
Superpelican | I know | 12:23 |
Superpelican | I had a boot.scr with console=tty0 | 12:23 |
sledges | fair | 12:23 |
Superpelican | The strange thing is, is that the device wouldn't boot Android when the SD card is inserted | 12:24 |
Superpelican | even though the screen stayed black | 12:24 |
Superpelican | So I'm suspecting that the kernel did start | 12:24 |
Superpelican | but it didn't turn on the screen and show something | 12:24 |
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sledges | Superpelican, if you run out of ideas (don't think it will work, but worth a try): https://build.merproject.org/package/rdiff?linkrev=base&package=kernel-adaptation-mako&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Adm8tbr&rev=2 | 12:30 |
Superpelican | sledges:Is there also a way to automatically set all the CONFIG options Mer requires (https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check/blob/master/mer_verify_kernel_config) | 12:31 |
sledges | and you can always put android's kernel there | 12:31 |
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sledges | see if that boots on | 12:32 |
Superpelican | sledges:Changing all those kernel options manually with ctrl+f isn't very fun to do | 12:32 |
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sledges | Superpelican, absolutely | 12:32 |
Superpelican | phew | 12:32 |
Superpelican | I've already done it once | 12:32 |
sledges | sorry forgot to inform you about that tool | 12:32 |
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Superpelican | sledges:How | 12:33 |
Superpelican | sledges:Other than writing a bash script that uses sed | 12:33 |
sledges | mer_verify_kernel_config, what you just said | 12:34 |
Superpelican | eh, doesn't it only check if you have the options enabled? | 12:34 |
sledges | sorry, misread your "Is there also a way to automatically...?" as "there is also a way to automatically..." :D | 12:35 |
sledges | Superpelican, the order is not important, just add needed configs to the end of the file | 12:36 |
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sledges | afterwards you will still need to make oldconfig to pull dependencies (if any), and you'll get a nice ordered .config again | 12:36 |
Superpelican | ah, of course and the ones that are not set, are commented out | 12:36 |
sledges | yup | 12:36 |
Superpelican | So you won't get the same CONFIG's double | 12:36 |
Superpelican | What do you mean with to pull dependencies? | 12:37 |
sledges | if you change a config flag, other which depend on it change as well | 12:37 |
Superpelican | And you do you exactly pull those dependencies? | 12:38 |
sledges | hopefully it will -just- work ;) | 12:39 |
sledges | otherwise when you make bzImage it will curse :P | 12:39 |
sledges | saying 'run make oldconfig first' | 12:39 |
Superpelican | you mean I should just run "make oldconfig" after adding the CONFIG's? | 12:39 |
sledges | you may need to run that, yes | 12:39 |
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sledges | i always run it, as it cleans up the .config file (removes commented duplicates etc) | 12:40 |
Superpelican | sledges:I can't run make uImage | 12:41 |
sledges | ? | 12:41 |
Superpelican | sledges:When it tries to create an uImage it will complain that I should install mkimage | 12:41 |
Superpelican | sledges:So after I had created a zImage in Mer SDK sb2 | 12:42 |
Superpelican | sledges:I converted it to an uImage on my host (x86_64) | 12:42 |
Superpelican | sledges:openSUSE with u-boot-tools | 12:42 |
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Superpelican | sledges:Now just running "make -j3" in sb2 | 12:45 |
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sledges | Superpelican, mkimage is in the u-boot-tools package | 12:46 |
sledges | u-boot-sunxi-tools in your case | 12:46 |
Superpelican | sledges:Does u-boot-sunxi-tools vs u-boot-tools matter? | 12:47 |
sledges | no | 12:48 |
Superpelican | Does it matter whether I convert the zImage to an uImage on x86_64 or ARM (emulated)? | 12:48 |
sledges | so SUSE's u-boot-tools should be ok | 12:48 |
Superpelican | as long as -A arm flag is added to mkimage | 12:49 |
sledges | yes | 12:49 |
sledges | was about to say that lol | 12:49 |
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Superpelican | sledges:Now just running make, without oldconfig cleanup | 12:57 |
Superpelican | haven't got any errors so far, so can I assume that the cleanup isn't needed? | 12:57 |
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Superpelican | vgrade_:I think the kernel is causing the problems | 12:59 |
Superpelican | vgrade_:Now compiling a new kernel | 12:59 |
Superpelican | vgrade_:I think I forgot to set the "Map the console to the primary display device" option | 13:00 |
Superpelican | vgrade_:Can't remember checking it the first time | 13:00 |
vgrade_ | Superpelican:so your tinylinux did not boot after you replaced just the uImage and your kernel modules | 13:02 |
Superpelican | correct | 13:02 |
Superpelican | but I couldn't add my own modules | 13:02 |
Superpelican | tinycore rootfs seems to be packed in an uCore file | 13:03 |
Superpelican | so I couldn't replace the modules | 13:03 |
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Superpelican | sledges, vgrade:http://pastebin.com/J8iFv1xW | 13:20 |
Superpelican | Is it overriding the options I just added for Mer support?! | 13:20 |
Superpelican | then it says restarting config | 13:20 |
Superpelican | and it starts asking questions for the CONFIG | 13:20 |
Superpelican | 's | 13:20 |
sledges | Superpelican, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/errors-override-with-config-file-743435/ | 13:20 |
sledges | means some of files that you added were not duplicates | 13:21 |
Superpelican | files? | 13:21 |
sledges | flags | 13:21 |
Superpelican | but which option will "sort .config | uniq -u >> .config2 && mv .config2 .config" favor? | 13:21 |
Superpelican | I can also just answer the questions it asks me | 13:22 |
sledges | wonder what good oldconfig would say? :) | 13:23 |
Superpelican | assuming it will only ask me questions about the flags I added manually | 13:23 |
Superpelican | you mean "make oldconfig" | 13:23 |
sledges | yes | 13:23 |
Superpelican | Won't it edit my file | 13:23 |
sledges | it will, make a backup | 13:23 |
sledges | I usually go with defaults, so do: | 13:24 |
sledges | modify .config by hand | 13:24 |
sledges | run make menuconfig | 13:24 |
sledges | escape escape | 13:24 |
sledges | save configuration | 13:24 |
sledges | :) | 13:24 |
sledges | sorts everything most of time :) | 13:24 |
Superpelican | but I do actually change options in menuconfig | 13:24 |
sledges | that's fine. saving configuration also cleans up .config | 13:25 |
Superpelican | ? | 13:25 |
Superpelican | also how can I check if oldconfig has chosen the right option | 13:25 |
sledges | no matter if you change options in menuconfig or not, saving config cleans up the config file | 13:25 |
Superpelican | but how do you save a config | 13:25 |
sledges | but I never had duplicates before | 13:25 |
Superpelican | you mean just esc | 13:26 |
sledges | by quitting menuconfig app | 13:26 |
sledges | yes | 13:26 |
Superpelican | ok | 13:26 |
Superpelican | so first edit, then menuconfig | 13:26 |
Superpelican | sledges:Should I enable fair group scheduler? | 13:27 |
sledges | the best way to know for sure what's happening when you have duplicates - is to dedicate some time and go through them manually (ctrl+f, but not in OBS+browser ;)) | 13:27 |
sledges | yes | 13:27 |
sledges | it should be marked as mandatory for such boards like pandaboard | 13:28 |
sledges | most probably yours, too | 13:28 |
sledges | CONFIG_CGROUP_PERF, CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED | 13:29 |
Superpelican | what is /dev/nvram or NVRAM? | 13:29 |
Superpelican | I've already googled | 13:29 |
Superpelican | but don't understand | 13:29 |
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sledges | no idea :) | 13:29 |
Superpelican | I thought I read somewhere it's only for x86 BIOS or something like that | 13:29 |
sledges | ok, i'm off, have fun! | 13:30 |
xavinux | Superpelican: NVRAM => No volatile RAM | 13:30 |
xavinux | it don´t loss the information after the power is off | 13:31 |
xavinux | uses in Cisco routers also | 13:31 |
Superpelican | ok | 13:31 |
Superpelican | but is it needed for a tablet or phone etc. ? | 13:32 |
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xavinux | today most NVRAM are flash Rams and yes are use in smartphones | 13:33 |
Superpelican | ok, then will enable it | 13:34 |
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Superpelican | My new kernel is built now | 14:02 |
Superpelican | Will try :) | 14:02 |
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xavinux | :) good luck! | 14:07 |
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Superpelican | vgrade:How do I find out what I should set as load address for my uImage (when converting from zImage to uImage with mkimage)? | 15:12 |
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Superpelican | vgrade:Last time I didn't specify anything, because I didn't know what to specify and then it became 0 | 15:13 |
Superpelican | vgrade:Maybe that's why it didn't work | 15:13 |
Superpelican | vgrade:After all I still don't know whether or not the kernel booted | 15:13 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:Are you no longer busy? :P | 15:39 |
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Stskeeps | /g iamer | 15:46 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:? | 15:48 |
Stskeeps | still busy | 15:48 |
Superpelican | ok :( | 15:49 |
Stskeeps | i go on paternity leave very soon so i'm very absent | 15:49 |
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Aard | Stskeeps: I tested today with a bundled cat, it's very doable to keep that thing on the lap and continue typing. plus your child will be less mobile :p | 15:51 |
sledges | Superpelican, on ref repos mkimage is done via mkuboot.sh script: https://build.merproject.org/package/rawlog?arch=armv7el&package=kernel-adaptation-sunxi&project=home%3Anotmart%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Amdfe%3Ahw%3Asunxi&repository=latest__armv7l | 15:51 |
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Bostik | I can say with confidence and very recent experience that having a kid is the WORST all-around factor for productivity | 15:54 |
Bostik | whether it's the child or the mother, but someone is constantly nagging for attention | 15:55 |
Stskeeps | yeah.. will be interesting to see how it's like working from home | 15:55 |
sledges | you own paste Stskeeps : http://theoatmeal.com/comics/working_home | 15:56 |
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Bostik | would be funny if it wasn't so painfully true | 16:02 |
Stskeeps | i'm actually wearing pants today | 16:02 |
Bostik | and I can add one more thing on the negative side: no way to catch a beer after work with your office mates | 16:02 |
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Superpelican | sledges:Where did they get that script then, it's at least not in https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi/tree/sunxi/tools | 16:04 |
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Superpelican | sledges:But they also give the load address and entry point: "mkuboot.sh -A arm -O linux -C none -T kernel -a 0x40008000 -e 0x40008000 -n 'Linux-3.4.43' -d arch/arm/boot/zImage arch/arm/boot/uImage" | 16:29 |
Superpelican | So what they to do is basically the same as just calling mkimage | 16:29 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: what was the ld.so.cache~ error message exactly? | 17:27 |
Stskeeps | ah, found it | 17:29 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: i'm really wondering how on earth this can happen fwiw | 17:45 |
Stskeeps | ldconfig should always be executed with ldconfig -r /target ARGS | 17:45 |
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Stskeeps | it even does: | 17:47 |
Stskeeps | /* Write cache first to a temporary file and rename it later. */ | 17:47 |
Stskeeps | char *temp_name = xmalloc (strlen (cache_name) + 2); | 17:47 |
Stskeeps | sprintf (temp_name, "%s~", cache_name); | 17:47 |
Stskeeps | in glibc | 17:47 |
Stskeeps | and rewrites cache_file with a chroot prefix | 17:48 |
Stskeeps | so my gut feeling is that perhaps something manages to bypass sb2 | 17:49 |
Stskeeps | an strace would reveal this | 17:49 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:Do you know how to find out which load address I should enter when converting a zImage to an uImage? | 17:51 |
Superpelican | and what's an entry point? | 17:51 |
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Stskeeps | look at your u-boot configuration | 17:52 |
Superpelican | what do you mean with u-boot config? | 17:52 |
Stskeeps | the u-boot environment | 17:52 |
Stskeeps | it specifies those things, load address | 17:52 |
Superpelican | and where do I find the u-boot env? | 17:52 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:Is u-boot.bin the u-boot environment? | 17:57 |
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Stskeeps | no | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | but it might have a predefined one | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | generally, run 'file' on an existing uImage | 17:58 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:hmmm | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | it should tell you the parameters there from what ik now | 17:59 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:Might try that on the uImage of tinycore linux, which ran on my tablet by only replacing the script.bin | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | also | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | install uboot-tools and make uImage in kernel sources | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | very handy | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:59 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:But what I don't understand is, it seems you don't need to enter the load address and entry point when running make uImage | 18:00 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:But do need when you just run make and then do mkimage | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | well, that's because the kernel is much smarter than a person is | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:00 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:The reason I can't run make uImage is, that the Mer SDK doesn't seem to have u-boot-tools | 18:00 |
Superpelican | or does it? | 18:01 |
Superpelican | zypper se uboot and zypper se u-boot both say no packages found in Mer SDK | 18:01 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:The first time I compiled a kernel I did with make uImage | 18:01 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:But at the end of making, it complained that mkimage wasn't installed | 18:02 |
Stskeeps | yes, hence the uboot-tools | 18:03 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps: zypper in uboot-tools complains that the package doesn't exist | 18:04 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:So Mer SDK doesn't have u-boot-tools? | 18:05 |
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* lbt is back now | 18:08 | |
lbt | hey Stskeeps | 18:08 |
lbt | yes - I think the rules are missing it somehow | 18:09 |
lbt | 'back' is misleading ... popped in on the way to cook food :) | 18:10 |
Bostik | cooking | 18:14 |
Bostik | the most fun one have have with their pants on | 18:14 |
Bostik | chicken in fridge, resting in marinade; meatballs done and now simmering in their sauce... | 18:15 |
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CosmoHill | I've just ridden 8 miles on my bike non-stop without sitting down :o | 18:30 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:Thanks for the file tip | 18:41 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:I now know the load address and entry point address from the tinycore linux uImage that succesfully boots on my tablet :) | 18:42 |
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ccxvi_ | which tablet? | 19:01 |
Superpelican | ccxvi_:Cherry Mobility M1007, which is a rebranded Point of View Protab 2 XXL | 19:03 |
Superpelican | http://superpelicanblog.wordpress.com/porting-mer-corenemo-mobile-to-the-cherry-m1007/ | 19:04 |
Superpelican | I will document the process of porting | 19:04 |
Superpelican | When I at least have the Mer Core running | 19:04 |
Superpelican | So page will be updated | 19:04 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps, vgrade:yay, just booted my kernel on the tablet with sun4i rootfs | 19:14 |
Superpelican | some errors but I've got a shell now | 19:14 |
Superpelican | it says "chroot: can't execute '/init': No such file or directory" | 19:15 |
Superpelican | and "/bin/ash: can't access tty; job control turned off" | 19:15 |
Superpelican | usb keyboard also works :) | 19:16 |
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CosmoHill | night night | 21:47 |
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