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| phako | I don't suppose there'a a hardware adaptation for the XO? | 09:05 |
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| Stskeeps | XO? | 09:06 |
| panda84kde | Stskeeps: I think he's referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | phako: which of the XO's? | 09:11 |
| phako | any | 09:11 |
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| phako | sorry, yes. those XO | 09:11 |
| phako | s | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | you can use mer armv7hl, armv7l on the armada 610 (XO 1.75?) at least | 09:13 |
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| phako | ah ok | 09:22 |
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| kostola | Stskeeps: ping | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | kostola: no hints so far.. i need the full build log from your local build | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | and a 'ls' of the sb2-tools-armv6l package checkout | 10:48 |
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| kostola | ok | 10:59 |
| kostola | I'll send you | 10:59 |
| kostola | what the hell is happening in our OBS :) | 10:59 |
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| kostola | Stskeeps: I'm building | 11:03 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:06 |
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| kostola | Stskeeps: mail ;) | 11:24 |
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| * Stskeeps reads | 11:29 | |
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| Stskeeps | kostola: in the end of %install section in the sb2-tools-armv6l.spec file, add: cat baselibs.conf | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | need to verify it gets created correctly | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | also | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | what does rpm -q --info build-mkbaselibs say:? | 12:12 |
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| xavinux | Stskeeps: Hi, is there any problem to access https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo? I can access merproject.org/ without problem but not https mer sites... | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | xavinux: what browser do you use | 12:28 |
| xavinux | firefox and chrome | 12:28 |
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| xavinux | I can access https:google.com.ar without problem | 12:29 |
| xavinux | https://google.com | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | should work | 12:29 |
| xavinux | ok will keep trying but still can access, although thank you for your answer | 12:30 |
| xavinux | https://sailfishos.org can access ok | 12:31 |
| xavinux | only with mer project https sites is the problem | 12:31 |
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| xavinux | Stskeeps: get this error: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET wiki/Nemo. Reason: Error reading from remote server | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ^ ? | 12:40 |
| lbt | looking | 12:41 |
| xavinux | ok | 12:41 |
| lbt | looks like the wiki went down a few mins ago - I missed the alerts | 12:42 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I think I'm going to need to do some phost maint soon | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:46 |
| lbt | xavinux: back now | 12:46 |
| xavinux | thnk you | 12:46 |
| xavinux | +thank | 12:47 |
| xavinux | I can access ok now | 12:47 |
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| xavinux | http://xavinux.blogspot.com.ar/2013/06/nemo-os-components-functions.html Nemo Mobile OS components | 12:54 |
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| ericcc | good blog | 13:09 |
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| xavinux | thanks ericcc :) writing all night, hope it's useful to others | 13:14 |
| ericcc | you are good guys | 13:14 |
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| kostola | Stskeeps: ping | 13:25 |
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| Stskeeps | kostola: pong | 13:26 |
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| kostola | I was away...now I'm trying what you said | 13:27 |
| kostola | I have to issue "rpm -q --build ... " on my OBS server right | 13:28 |
| kostola | ? | 13:28 |
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| Stskeeps | both in sdk and obs server | 13:29 |
| kostola | ok | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -q --info | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | rpm -q --info build-mkbaselibs, thati s ;) | 13:29 |
| kostola | I think the correct line to append to the spec file is | 13:30 |
| kostola | cat %{_sourcedir}/baselibs.conf | 13:30 |
| kostola | is it correct? | 13:31 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 13:32 |
| kostola | ok | 13:32 |
| kostola | maybe we got it | 13:34 |
| kostola | "package build-mkbaselibs is not installed" | 13:34 |
| kostola | Stskeeps: ^ | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | that in SDK? | 13:35 |
| kostola | yes | 13:35 |
| kostola | it's installed in OBS server | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | zypper in build-mkbaselibs in sdk and try the --baselibs thing again the | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | n | 13:36 |
| kostola | http://pastebin.com/nN6f71G2 | 13:36 |
| kostola | that's the package info of our OBS server | 13:36 |
| kostola | also build-mkbaselibs is NOT installed in our workers | 13:37 |
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| kostola | Stskeeps: I've built sb2-tools-armv6l before installing the package | 13:53 |
| kostola | now I've installed it and I'm rebuilding | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:53 |
| kostola | so I'll send you both buildlogs | 13:53 |
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| xavinux | Stskeeps: may I help with package packaging? Do you need help in that point? | 14:00 |
| kostola | Stskeeps: I have the logs | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | kostola: ok, please send | 14:14 |
| kostola | Stskeeps: done | 14:16 |
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| kostola | it seems that nothing changed | 14:22 |
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| Stskeeps | /me looks | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | this is with --baselibs right | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | this doesn't make any sense. | 14:28 |
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| Stskeeps | please ls -al /var/tmp/build-root/usr/lib/build /var/tmp/build-root/.build | 14:30 |
| kostola | yes | 14:30 |
| kostola | this is the command I used to build | 14:30 |
| kostola | osc build --clean --no-verify --baselibs Core_armv6l i586 sb2-tools-armv6l.spec | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | is correct | 14:31 |
| kostola | ok | 14:31 |
| kostola | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/gWtWae5V | 14:32 |
| kostola | the output of ls -al ... | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | kostola: can i ask you to try to do the same experiment, but against https://api.ci.merproject.org ? | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | (build.ci's api) | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | and Core:armv6l sb2-tools-armv6l there | 14:34 |
| kostola | ok but how can I do that? | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | osc -A https://api.ci.merproject.org ls | 14:34 |
| kostola | yes ok | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | type in the login, password you used | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | and just check out the package, osc build --clean --no-verify --baselibs Core_armv6l i586 sb2-tools-armv6l.spec | 14:35 |
| kostola | I have to do that on my Mer SDK right? | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | then we can track the issue a little better i think | 14:37 |
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| kostola | Stskeeps: it's building | 14:38 |
| kostola | osc -A https://api.ci.merproject.org build --clean --no-verify --baselibs Core_armv6l i586 sb2-tools-armv6l.spec | 14:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok, lemme know when done | 14:40 |
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| kostola | Stskeeps: ping | 15:11 |
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| Stskeeps | plong | 15:12 |
| kostola | sorry I made a mistake | 15:13 |
| kostola | the build was locked asking me to trust the packages | 15:13 |
| kostola | so it did not build anything yet | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:13 |
| kostola | I'm building again :) | 15:13 |
| kostola | you're linking to i486 project I see | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | .. that might actually be it | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | arch i486 targets armv6l:inject | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | this means turn i486 packages into armv6l packages | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | in baselibs.conf | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | if you get a .armv6l.rpm now when building from api.ci this is the problem | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | mer builds against a Core:i486, not i586 as not everybody had atom/ssse3 | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | so you should make a local Core:i486 build, not Core:i586; and then build arm against that | 15:24 |
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| kostola | Stskeeps: I built the first time and I obtained /var/tmp/build-root/home/abuild/rpmbuild/RPMS/armv6l/sb2-tools-armv6l-dependency-inject-1.0-1.armv6l.rpm | 15:37 |
| kostola | seems correct | 15:37 |
| kostola | now I'm rebuilding saving the build log to send it to you | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes, then it's definately that issues | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | -s | 15:38 |
| kostola | so what do I have to do? | 15:38 |
| kostola | build Core:i486 and then link to it on armv6l? | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | correect | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | i should really have seen this earlier.. | 15:39 |
| kostola | we have to change the Local Mer wiki page | 15:41 |
| kostola | changing i586 to i486 | 15:41 |
| kostola | (if it works) | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | it changed because of people running into SDK and builder issues so | 15:42 |
| xavinux | Stskeeps: may I help with rpm packaging? Do you need help in that point? | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | xavinux: check tasks list in bugs.merproject.org ;) | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 15:43 |
| xavinux | ok | 15:43 |
| kostola | Stskeeps: I'll start building Core:i486 immediately | 15:43 |
| kostola | Stskeeps, lbt: when are you planning to integrate gcc 4.7 in Mer? | 15:45 |
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| xavinux | Stskeeps: Login in bugs.merproject.org, Now could you guide how to start verifying those bugs and what do I need? I've already installed an i486 Nemo mobile VM in virtualbox and installed it to Hard Disk | 16:19 |
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| Superpelican | Stskeeps:I would like to try to port mer/nemo to a chinese android tablet, I've already collected some pretty detailed information about it. But do you have a good starting point. | 17:17 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Is there a porting guide? | 17:17 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:I think I should get U-boot running first? | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | Superpelican: get your own kernel built and flashed and own root file system; and ideally own built android build that you can flash and it works | 17:18 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps: It's a Allwinner A10 (sun4i) tablet | 17:18 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps: but why an android build? | 17:18 |
| Superpelican | Android isn't compatible with Mer, right? | 17:19 |
| Superpelican | because it doesn't use glibc and X | 17:19 |
| Superpelican | Or am I misunderstanding something? | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | Superpelican: you can use libhybris to use android hw adaptation | 17:20 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:But isn't native preferable? | 17:20 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Isn't there a performance penalty involved with libhybris? | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | not really, compared to the time saved in time to market | 17:20 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:But there are already Mali 400 drivers available | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 17:21 |
| Superpelican | http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400 | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | but in practice you want something that just works, and with your hw | 17:22 |
| vgrade | Superpelican: we've not been able to run mcompositor on those drivers | 17:22 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:Have there already been porting efforts for porting to sunxi then? | 17:23 |
| Morpog_PC | so there is no performance hit using libhybris? | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC: i've been trying to find one so far but in practice, it's just(!) a dlopen and dlsym | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | and a passthrough | 17:23 |
| vgrade | Superpelican: yes, I've run nemo on mele A1000, cubieboard and pengpod tablet | 17:23 |
| Superpelican | lima isn't quite in a usable state yet? | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | and it's working so good that i'd just recommend people to use qt5-wayland nemo + lipstick-qt5 at this point | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:24 |
| kostola | Stskeeps: do you think that not having build-mkbaselibs installed on my worker will not build my i486 Mer:Core project correctly? | 17:24 |
| Morpog_PC | sounds like a great future for mer and nemo and of course sailfishos :) | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | kostola: build comes from the server | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't be a problem | 17:25 |
| kostola | perfect ;) | 17:25 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Does Nemo Mobile already support Qt5 && Wayland? | 17:25 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:I've been reading some things about Qt5 and Wayland lately | 17:25 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:It sounds pretty sweet ;) | 17:25 |
| Morpog_PC | I've seen it running on youtube | 17:26 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps: I guess this isn't the whole Mali 400 driver stack: http://malideveloper.arm.com/develop-for-mali/drivers/open-source-mali-gpus-linux-exadri2-and-x11-display-drivers/ | 17:26 |
| Morpog_PC | Superpelican, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX-CCgI_EbY | 17:26 |
| Morpog_PC | or here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw413qUdWOQ&NR=1&feature=endscreen | 17:27 |
| vgrade | Superpelican: that's just the open bits, you still need the closed blobs from linux-sunxi | 17:27 |
| vgrade | Superpelican: and I've not been able to make that stack work with mcompositor | 17:28 |
| vgrade | as Stskeeps hints, qt5 wayland with lipstick-qt5 is future | 17:29 |
| kostola | Stskeeps: I think on monday you'll have the reponse ;) have a nice weekend | 17:29 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:But is there a Nemo build with Qt5/wayland already? | 17:30 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:Or is this still nightly stuff? | 17:30 |
| vgrade | Superpelican: no nemo build atm. I was waiting for next official build and I'll do one for cubie | 17:31 |
| vgrade | required packages are in repos though | 17:31 |
| vgrade | Superpelican: what tablet do you have | 17:32 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:Well it is a long story, but it's "real" name is "Cherry Mobility M1007" | 17:33 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:But there has been said that the Point of View Protab 2 XXL is the same | 17:33 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:And people have also reported to have been running Protab Android ROMs succesfully on the M1007 | 17:34 |
| Superpelican | without modification | 17:34 |
| Superpelican | I've also collected some information already with lsmod | 17:34 |
| Superpelican | http://pastebin.com/Yab6tyYb | 17:34 |
| Superpelican | And I just found out there is a whole page for the Protab 2 XXL: http://linux-sunxi.org/Point_Of_View_ProTab2_XXL | 17:35 |
| Superpelican | with Ubuntu images! | 17:35 |
| Bostik | vgrade, Superpelican: one thing to remember about qt5/wayland - the wayland module (qtwayland.git) is not yet part of the official qt5 release, so integrating the module may require some additional manual work | 17:35 |
| Superpelican | There's even information about how to get the touchscreen to work :) | 17:35 |
| Bostik | where "some" really depends on the situation, but shouldn't be too much by our standards | 17:35 |
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| Superpelican | Bostik: now I'm getting a little bit scared "by our standards" ;) | 17:36 |
| Superpelican | with also the awesome, hard work that has been done by you guys :) | 17:37 |
| Superpelican | *also = all | 17:37 |
| Bostik | Superpelican: I've been doing qt5 packaging for mer for ... more than two years now, so my definition of "straightforward" may be a bit off | 17:37 |
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| Bostik | it's the difference between "whuh?" and "not again" ;) | 17:38 |
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| Superpelican | Just created a special page for the porting process, where I will collect all information: http://superpelicanblog.wordpress.com/porting-mer-corenemo-mobile-to-the-cherry-m1007/ | 17:41 |
| Superpelican | Will be updated of course ;) | 17:41 |
| vgrade | Superpelican: ftp://5.9.162.110/nemo/cubieboard/tablet/cubieboard/mer/testing/armv7hl/weekly/ might be useful | 17:42 |
| Superpelican | vgrade: thanks, especially u-boot may be useful, I think :) | 17:43 |
| xavinux | Hi people, Login in bugs.merproject.org, Now could someone guide on how to start verifying those bugs and what do I need? I've already installed an i486 Nemo mobile VM in virtualbox and installed it to Hard Disk | 17:44 |
| vgrade | all A10 hardware boots the same way but devices have different fex file and uboot build due to different hardware specs, memory etc | 17:45 |
| vgrade | you can drag boot.bin (the compiled .fex) from your device and get memory settings so you can buld your own uboot. linux-sunxi has all details | 17:47 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:I know, I've already read some stuff from linux-sunxi and rhombus-tech | 17:47 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:cubieboard has the same wifi module as my tablet :) | 17:48 |
| Superpelican | realtek 8192cu | 17:48 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:I also have the android kernel source, I found it on the official Cherry support forum board | 17:49 |
| Superpelican | http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/387386/FV_android4.0_release_source_code.tar.gz | 17:50 |
| Superpelican | but it's a bit weird | 17:52 |
| Superpelican | it contains lots of drivers and stuff for other devices | 17:53 |
| Superpelican | for example for laptops, acer, asus, eee pc etc. | 17:53 |
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| Superpelican | vgrade:You can use the script.bin obtained from the default Android install directly, right? | 18:02 |
| vgrade | yes | 18:02 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:there is already a mem-static dump on the protab 2 xxl linux-sunxi page | 18:03 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:there's even a whole partition table | 18:03 |
| Superpelican | about the sizes and fs's | 18:03 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:The script.bin has also been extracted already: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6scdp37kqgg9tw5/script.bin%2Bfex.zip | 18:04 |
| Superpelican | should I use it? | 18:04 |
| Superpelican | Or am I better of extracting my own/ | 18:05 |
| vgrade | if your sure its the same tablet it can be used | 18:05 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:Can the tablet get damaged if I use the wrong script.bin? | 18:07 |
| vgrade | not seen that happen myself, but remember adaptation is risky. I'm assuming your plannning to boot from sdcard | 18:08 |
| Superpelican | vgrade: yes | 18:08 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:So the Android install should stay undamaged also | 18:08 |
| vgrade | yes | 18:09 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:It's not very necessary it keeps working, but it would be really nice | 18:09 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:I won't would be nice if it isn't rendered useless, when the porting fails or certain things don't work completely | 18:09 |
| Superpelican | *I wouldn't | 18:10 |
| Superpelican | not "won't" lol | 18:10 |
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| Superpelican | vgrade:So I should be able to use the mer rootfs straightaway as long as I get a custom U-Boot and kernel running for my specific tablet/ | 18:14 |
| vgrade | depends on what you mean by straghtaway :) but should get commandline pretty quick | 18:15 |
| vgrade | ly | 18:16 |
| vgrade | then depends which way you want to go , qt4 or qt5 | 18:16 |
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| Superpelican | vgrade:I know have adb shell access (android) to the device and I've found the script.bin of the tablet and some other possibly interesting files | 18:57 |
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| Superpelican | including boot.axf and boot.ini | 19:00 |
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| CosmoHill | hello ladies, gentleman and everyone in between | 19:05 |
| xavinux | Hi CosmoHill, how are you... | 19:07 |
| CosmoHill | I'm good thanks, hayfever has been better and I've had a nice day after work :) | 19:07 |
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| xavinux | good :) | 19:09 |
| CosmoHill | yourself? | 19:10 |
| xavinux | good, have a free day so didn't have to work. Stayed all night writing on Nemo for my blog which hope can be useful :) | 19:12 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:I've extracted the u-boot.bin that came with the tablet using the adb shell :) | 19:12 |
| xavinux | for others... | 19:13 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:Is it useful? | 19:13 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:Or will I have to create a new u-boot.ini anyway for Mer? | 19:13 |
| CosmoHill | xavinux: sounds good. I've been meaning to write another blog post or two and edit the three I've not published yet | 19:15 |
| xavinux | as a newbe try to explain what I have learn in these week, and now breaking my head trying to learn hoe to help to fix bugs! I have just created an account in Bugzila and sea bugs reported, but don't know well what to do..... | 19:17 |
| xavinux | *how | 19:18 |
| xavinux | already installed an i486 VM and installed it to HDD in my Virtualbox... | 19:19 |
| CosmoHill | cool | 19:22 |
| CosmoHill | mine is just a blog about me and stuff | 19:22 |
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| xavinux | good! | 19:23 |
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| rcg | hi | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | lo rcg | 19:24 |
| rcg | hey Stskeeps, how's it going? everything alright? | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, baby still in the womb | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | 2 weeks to go to surgery | 19:27 |
| rcg | alright, i'll keep my fingers crossed | 19:27 |
| rcg | what i can tell so far is that it was the best decision ever :D | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | hehe :) | 19:28 |
| rcg | you'll lose quite some sleep, get cried at, have to change diapers all time but it's an absolutely wonderful and great experience :) | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, looking forward to having him out | 19:29 |
| rcg | i wish you all the best :) | 19:29 |
| CosmoHill | hi rcg | 19:29 |
| rcg | my fiancee and our son too :) | 19:29 |
| rcg | hi CosmoHill | 19:29 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: ooo congrays | 19:29 |
| CosmoHill | congrats* | 19:29 |
| rcg | http://blog.michaelarother.de/ there are some pics of the small fella :) | 19:31 |
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| CosmoHill | rcg: the website looks very nice, can't speak for the content since I can't read it | 19:32 |
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| Stskeeps | rcg: aww :) | 19:35 |
| rcg | if you click the images you can see some more pictures | 19:36 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:Just booted tiny core linux image on the tablet :D | 19:37 |
| Superpelican | vgrade:I replaced the script.bin that came with the image with the one I extracted from the tablet ;) | 19:37 |
| rcg | i think he is super cute. otoh, i am the father and i guess every father thinks his child is the cutest on the world :) | 19:37 |
| Superpelican | I now have shell | 19:37 |
| rcg | bbl | 19:41 |
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| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Does video acceleration also work with libhybris drivers? | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 19:58 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps: nice, also I just want to say that I think you've done awesome work on libhybris | 20:05 |
| Superpelican | :) | 20:05 |
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| rcg | brb | 20:36 |
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| CosmoHill | wb | 20:38 |
| rcg | re | 20:39 |
| rcg | thx | 20:39 |
| rcg | btw, how to upgrade the sdk? i tried to update via "sudo sdk-version --latest --go" but this gives me an error: " | 20:40 |
| rcg | "couldn't fetch latest release version, aborting" | 20:40 |
| rcg | most probably because mer-tools still points to meego.com | 20:40 |
| rcg | am talking about the mersdk that installs itself by default to /srv | 20:41 |
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| ljp | inside the sdk do: echo 5.9.68.173 repo.pub.meego.com | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts | 21:03 |
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| rcg | ljp, thanks, that did the trick | 21:25 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 23:55 |
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| ulf` | Howdy | 23:56 |
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