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| lbt | morning | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 09:02 |
| lbt | I forgot the triage yesterday | 09:03 |
| slaine | morning folks | 09:04 |
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| dcthang | afternoon :) | 09:15 |
| aknight | where is mer's networking config stored? | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | aknight: it's not really ;) check your ifconfig -a and see if eth0 is up | 09:25 |
| aknight | Stskeeps: it's not | 09:25 |
| aknight | Stskeeps: I mean, I don't even have an eth0 | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so; you have to go switch your virtualbox network card to e1000 or something like that | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | or pcnet32 | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | i forget | 09:25 |
| aknight | Stskeeps: that did the trick (e1000) | 09:26 |
| aknight | I saw that the e1000 mod was loaded in the other vm but didn't think to change the adapter | 09:28 |
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| slaine | lbt, fyi, had a problem running that setup_obs.sh on 12.2, iirc it was a package conflict relating to ruby from the Meego repo. | 10:40 |
| lbt | slaine: not surprising - I've not tried for a while tbh | 10:40 |
| slaine | was trying to find the terminal, can't, I'll run it again to get the proper details | 10:41 |
| lbt | PR welcome ;) | 10:41 |
| slaine | http://pastebin.com/DH973tYC | 10:42 |
| slaine | I'll investigate | 10:43 |
| lbt | hmm - looks like a ruby 1.8 issue | 10:44 |
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| Sage | lbt: when tools moves to mer obs? | 10:50 |
| lbt | it's there | 10:51 |
| lbt | I need to do a release from cobs with a new sdk-version that either migrates to ssu or at least uses mobs for the next release repo | 10:52 |
| lbt | I doubt ssu makes sense atm | 10:53 |
| Sage | hmmp | 10:53 |
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| Sage | https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=mer-tools%3Adevel <- empty? | 10:53 |
| lbt | yes | 10:54 |
| Sage | why? | 10:54 |
| lbt | because it's easier to copy back from mer-tools:testing than cobs:Mer:Tools:Devel | 10:55 |
| lbt | also I don't use it yet | 10:55 |
| lbt | I think devel will be where git hooks point | 10:55 |
| Sage | could you populate it already? | 10:56 |
| Sage | I would use it like now :) | 10:56 |
| lbt | how? | 10:56 |
| Sage | how what? | 10:57 |
| lbt | how would you use it? | 10:57 |
| Sage | umm.. download packages from it? | 10:57 |
| lbt | can't you use testing? | 10:57 |
| lbt | oh, wait - ssu flavour? | 10:57 |
| Sage | :nod: | 10:58 |
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| lbt | this is really, really silly | 10:58 |
| lbt | I'll do it though | 10:58 |
| Sage | well, I'm using mer-next build of devel for everything and using testing stuff that is bulid against different mer release can break stuff. | 10:58 |
| slaine | lbt, indeed, 12.2 has ruby 1.9 | 10:59 |
| slaine | and somethings linked against ruby 1.8 | 10:59 |
| lbt | slaine: I wonder why - it should build against 12.2 I think | 10:59 |
| lbt | Sage: I actually don't build tools against next yet | 11:00 |
| slaine | Heh, was right in front of me, "Problem: nothing provides libruby.so.1.8()(64bit) needed by rubygem-libxml-ruby-2.2.2-0.1.5Mer.x86_64" | 11:00 |
| Sage | lbt: if you populate :devel you will ;) | 11:01 |
| lbt | Sage: OK, but be warned, I am doing tools development in testing, not devel | 11:01 |
| lbt | I don't want to deal with nemo devel | 11:02 |
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| lbt | I would like to set tools-flavour to devel and nemo-flavour to testing | 11:02 |
| lbt | but I'm not allowed | 11:02 |
| lbt | so tools:devel will be static at this snapshot for a while | 11:03 |
| Sage | lbt: so maybe doing linkpac instead of copypac for now? | 11:03 |
| lbt | doubles the number of builds per change | 11:04 |
| lbt | do you really need to track tools:devel ? | 11:04 |
| lbt | we can do new snapshots if you need an update | 11:04 |
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| aknight | can someone point me to the ks file for the platform sdk vm image? | 11:10 |
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| lbt | aknight: you need to make your own from sdk-kickstarter-configs | 11:19 |
| lbt | aknight: I just haven't got around to automating the production and publishing of them yet | 11:20 |
| aknight | lbt: ah, found it. thanks | 11:21 |
| lbt | I can probably share one later if you have issues - I'm working on it at the moment | 11:21 |
| aknight | lbt: I think this is enough to get me started (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_Development) | 11:21 |
| lbt | aknight: just to be clear - why a vm image? | 11:22 |
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| lbt | typically you'd only do that to run on windows/mac | 11:22 |
| aknight | lbt: well I'm using the Platform SDK vm image and just wanted to see how it's put together | 11:22 |
| lbt | ok - so "vm image" is the virtualbox one | 11:23 |
| aknight | right | 11:23 |
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| aknight | maybe I should say vdi | 11:23 |
| lbt | ok - I tend to call that the SDK build engine as it is primarily used with QtCreator | 11:23 |
| aknight | lbt: sdk build engine it is :) | 11:24 |
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| lbt | and I think it includes notes on making a vdi in the ks | 11:24 |
| lbt | have fun | 11:24 |
| aknight | lbt: is there any reason that the build engine couldn't be a read-only file-system (iso)? | 11:25 |
| aknight | live image or w/e | 11:25 |
| lbt | hmm | 11:25 |
| aknight | well it updates itself | 11:26 |
| aknight | so that's a good reason to be writable | 11:26 |
| lbt | well, yes, but in general | 11:26 |
| lbt | I doubt it would work today and there are some issues with the targets which need a real disk | 11:27 |
| lbt | the design intention was a replacable black box thouh | 11:27 |
| lbt | so no user data | 11:27 |
| aknight | lbt: that makes sense to me. especially if I need to "pull the plug" on the vm | 11:28 |
| lbt | some virtualbox features have bugs/missing features which made that only 9% acheivable | 11:28 |
| lbt | 99% :) | 11:29 |
| lbt | the intention was to allow easy updates if things went wrong (corruption in vdi type stuff) | 11:29 |
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| Sage | lbt: compromise, linkpac + disable build by default and enable when new build is wanted? :) | 12:08 |
| lbt | well, I did a copypac a while back and trimmed down the builds | 12:09 |
| lbt | https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor?project=mer-tools%3Adevel | 12:09 |
| Sage | ok | 12:10 |
| Sage | btw, why don't you want to work with devel? Can you give me why? | 12:10 |
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| lbt | essentially I want to have control over what changes in my sdk build and when | 12:13 |
| lbt | ideally I'd run with a numbered released | 12:13 |
| Sage | umm.. how that does differen from testing compared to devel? | 12:15 |
| lbt | it's a compromise | 12:15 |
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| lbt | and frankly I have no choice without redesigning and rewriting a tool which wasn't developed to support this | 12:17 |
| lbt | I debated just using sdk-version to handle rewriting repos but I'm going to see how ssu goes | 12:18 |
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| Sage | lbt: did you happen to have repodiff tool as deb package somewhere that we could install to crepo? And did you have some special version of it at some point? | 12:30 |
| lbt | hmm | 12:30 |
| Sage | and do we have repodiff in mer sdk somewhere? | 12:31 |
| lbt | I did createrepo | 12:32 |
| Sage | i.e., how to get http://pastie.org/7812867 with mer sdk? | 12:33 |
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| Sage | I have repodiff on my fedora at least | 12:33 |
| Sage | located in yum-utils apparently | 12:34 |
| lbt | I have http://www.merproject.org/Mer_Tools_Status.txt | 12:37 |
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| lbt | that needs to be redone for mobs of course | 12:38 |
| Sage | where is that tool? | 12:38 |
| Sage | would need some tool so users could do diff's between different nemo snapshots | 12:39 |
| Sage | and I recall you talking about one at some point | 12:39 |
| lbt | yes, islam has a 'proper' one - I just knocked up a cronjob that does that | 12:39 |
| lbt | my webapp : http://pastie.org/7812902 :D | 12:41 |
| Sage | hehe :) | 12:43 |
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| Sage | we really should make some repodiff tool available in mer-tools | 12:43 |
| Sage | so one could do repo comparison within sdk | 12:43 |
| lbt | happy to accept that | 12:44 |
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| HLFH | hi | 12:48 |
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| HLFH | What about CardDAV in Mer Project ? | 12:48 |
| HLFH | Any news about CardDAV inside Mer or inside Sailfish ?? | 12:50 |
| HLFH | Thanks in advance (@^^@) | 12:50 |
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| HLFH | Any news about CardDAV inside Mer or inside Sailfish ?? | 12:55 |
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| Stskeeps | HLFH: i don't think we have it in mer | 12:55 |
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| HLFH | Stskeeps ok thanks | 12:58 |
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| Sage | lbt: mer-kickstarter fails | 13:01 |
| lbt | I know :) | 13:01 |
| Sage | also on mer-tools:testing | 13:01 |
| Sage | ok just saying. :) | 13:01 |
| lbt | error: File /home/abuild/rpmbuild/SOURCES/kickstarter-0.19.tar.bz2: No such file or directory | 13:01 |
| lbt | ty | 13:01 |
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| woweric | i hope 05.09 is coming fast!!! | 13:31 |
| sledges | 0.19 is knocking at your door! \o/ :) | 13:32 |
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| woweric | hahaa | 13:33 |
| woweric | marc had comt to beijing | 13:34 |
| * sledges is dancing around the kickstarter btw :) | 13:35 | |
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| kaltsi | Stskeeps: https://review.merproject.org/1412 (python, python-libs, zip added to sb2-tools) | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 14:19 |
| Stskeeps | how about xz/cpio? | 14:19 |
| kaltsi | cpio is there already, xz.. ok I can add that too | 14:20 |
| lbt | kaltsi: how does that play with sdk ? | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | should be fine | 14:24 |
| Stskeeps | we have +pp but we never had both perl and python ;) | 14:24 |
| kaltsi | lbt: how how? should not be a problem, python is not automatically accelerated, a package has to export something to get it accelerated | 14:24 |
| lbt | just because we have fs_rules.lua in there | 14:25 |
| lbt | which may not be something we want longer term | 14:25 |
| kaltsi | has the sdk-build+pp mode evolved from obs-rpm-build+pp? | 14:26 |
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| lbt | yes but it's not used | 14:27 |
| kaltsi | the sdk-build (without +pp) is the default mode I think. so in this case, no effect to sdk | 14:27 |
| kaltsi | we might want to enable some of the new binaries in the sdk-build mode, though | 14:29 |
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| lbt | yep | 14:40 |
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| aknight | lbt: any idea what package module.h might be in? | 14:54 |
| Stskeeps | kernel modules? | 14:54 |
| aknight | yep | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | kernel-adaptation-pc-devel | 14:55 |
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| Stskeeps | think there's a package where you can see how it's built against | 14:56 |
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| aknight | Stskeeps: thanks. found module.h now although it made me downgrade virtualbox guest additions | 14:59 |
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| phaeron | lbt: cmds not responding to ssh | 15:04 |
| phaeron | or ,, very slowly | 15:04 |
| lbt | many snakes | 15:05 |
| lbt | Out of memory: Kill process 25332 (python2.7) score 74 or sacrifice child | 15:06 |
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| kaltsi | Stskeeps: ahh looks like python could use this "accelerate only if installed to target"-case like doxygen.. (I'm working on it) | 15:11 |
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| phaeron | lbt: restarted it | 15:12 |
| * phaeron prays for memory | 15:12 | |
| lbt | it's supposed to send data from disk -> network ... I didn't think it needed RAM | 15:14 |
| phaeron | patches welcome | 15:14 |
| lbt | less RAM gives you something to scratch | 15:14 |
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| lbt | fuuu | 15:24 |
| lbt | pattern voodoo | 15:25 |
| lbt | patterns only work because of convoluted triggers kicking processes into rebuilding repos,,,, | 15:25 |
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