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| Sage_ | lbt: Stskeeps: ping, where is changelog for prerelease? | 05:26 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:32 |
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| dcthang | Stskeeps: did hacking something? :-) | 07:38 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 07:40 |
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| dcthang | ah it looks like you are sleepy. | 07:43 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah | 07:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:43 |
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| kaltsi | mornink | 08:38 |
| kaltsi | [ol]: thanks for the explanation, seems straightforward enough | 08:39 |
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| lbt | Sage: looking at our changelogs: "Drop su from coreutils and do a bit cleanup." ... when we make changes like this I think "why" is more important than "what" | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: coreutils newer version moved su to util-linux | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | and we can't upgrade coreutils due to gplv3 | 09:10 |
| lbt | *nod* - not worried about su so much as asking for changelogs to contain more explanation than description | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:12 |
| lbt | but added to notes | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | "- Ruin stskeeps' weekend" | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:12 |
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| Sage | lbt: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/coreutils.git;a=blob;f=coreutils.changes;h=766d84debff1a5ee91241f3672e5cb4199ed1b76;hb=5f65ced25847d05dc0f0ccfe2b31377ab780eb72 | 09:33 |
| Sage | lbt: noted, but more detailed stuff was in .changes file. | 09:33 |
| lbt | Sage: right - do you think maybe we should ask for the .changes text to go into the gerrit commit message? | 09:35 |
| lbt | I think I tend to do that but it's not written down | 09:36 |
| lbt | or maybe I rewrite the changelog tool to use .changes and ignore gerrit ones? | 09:36 |
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| lbt | Sage: http://www.merproject.org/activity | 09:40 |
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| Sage | lbt: I think it would be better to do the changelog based on .changes instead of gerrit ones | 09:48 |
| Sage | .changes ones would be cleaner as there can be 100 commits to gerrit to just to do one single feature. Which will just flood the changelog with data that isn't that interesting for most. | 09:49 |
| Sage | .changes file should always contain the most important information anyway. | 09:50 |
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| Sage | hmmp... did I break mds2? :D | 10:02 |
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| Sage | MerSDK [sage@sage-x230 obs-mer-community]$ obs-mer-community branch mer:mds2:Core:armv7hl:master qemu-usermode | 10:02 |
| Sage | ^ cmd hasn't returned and https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=qemu-usermode&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3Amer%3Amds2%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl%3Amaster doesn't load | 10:03 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: lbt: ^ | 10:03 |
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| kaltsi | doesn't load? | 10:06 |
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| Sage | well at least my browser doesn't load that page | 10:07 |
| kaltsi | page loads for me. failure is after installing all build deps; "su: cannot not open session: Permission denied" | 10:07 |
| lbt | same here | 10:08 |
| * Sage retries | 10:08 | |
| Sage | ok well now it loads | 10:08 |
| Sage | and also the command returned. So just long waiting when branching from mds2 | 10:08 |
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| * Sage doesn't understand where that error comes from though | 10:09 | |
| lbt | Sage: on gitpkg - I really need to sort out some SDK stuff today - maybe this evening? | 10:09 |
| Sage | lbt: sounds good. | 10:10 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: have you seen the error before: ^ " su: cannot not open session: Permission denied" & " Error: TOPDIR empty" | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: will respond later, deep in some code | 10:11 |
| Sage | err... that is the coreutils, util-linux mess in my branch | 10:11 |
| kaltsi | sage are you going to update qemu? | 10:13 |
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| Sage | kaltsi: was planning to yes | 10:15 |
| kaltsi | good :) | 10:16 |
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| lbt | Sage: are you thinking to gitpkg it? | 10:21 |
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| Sage | lbt: no. Just updating as is. For me gitpkg has too many loose ends atm. | 10:22 |
| lbt | just as a comment - the intention is to clone upstream git wherever possible, not to use pristine-tar unless upstream is svn or hg or somehting | 10:22 |
| lbt | ok, no problem | 10:22 |
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| martyone_ | hi, with Aard we based implementation of one feature and unit tests inside Nemo's SSU on QAbstractFileEngine. Only after that we discovered file-engines are made private in Qt5. What is the opinion of having Qt private headers available in Mer and to use them? | 10:25 |
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| Sage | lbt: personally I feel gitpkg too messy atm. to start using it. I needs to improve quite a bit more before I want to start using it more. If you don't follow exactly what is assumed it can fail in so many ways. | 10:29 |
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| lbt | Sage: you need to distinguish between the tools - we can't ask gp_setup to be an AI for automatically converting any spec to a gitpkg :) | 10:31 |
| Sage | lbt: it works yes, but it is not user friendly atm. My fork contains fixes mainly making it more user friendly and in general working for my first usecase I tried. | 10:31 |
| lbt | versus the gitpkg service ever failing | 10:31 |
| lbt | I agree it needs improving - but we also need a reasonable goal | 10:32 |
| Sage | lbt: sure, but if one can find 20 ways to make it crash in half an hour it is not friendly. | 10:32 |
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| lbt | yeah - getting a list of those would be good | 10:34 |
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| lbt | you had that etherpad which really helped a lot | 10:34 |
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| Sage | lbt: tbh I got tired of waiting (we are all busy understandable) and now instead of etherpad I did the fork with patches. At the same time I got a bit better picture of it in general | 10:36 |
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| lbt | yes - fair enough - and I'm just looking to see where the problems are - and I know "20 ways" is not meant to be precise | 10:37 |
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| lbt | kaltsi hit an issue where EDITOR is not defined. You're finding a problem with ./.git not existing (which I don't understand) and also something with tags/paths being confused | 10:38 |
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| Sage | lbt: https://github.com/saukko/git-pkg/commit/958ec7df78278772b98bde015a49da25669a5663 for .git not existing | 10:46 |
| Sage | and yes, tabs vs spaces makes that look bad we should pic one | 10:47 |
| lbt | Sage: yes - what are you doing that needs that patch | 10:47 |
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| Sage | mkdir tmp; gp --auto --pkgdir=../packaging/ | 10:47 |
| Sage | err | 10:47 |
| Sage | mkdir tmp; cd tmp; gp --auto --pkgdir=../packaging/ | 10:47 |
| Sage | mkdir tmp; cd tmp; gp_setup --auto --pkgdir=../packaging/ | 10:48 |
| * Sage needs to wakeup | 10:48 | |
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| lbt | OK - that's not a valid line. Docs say --base-on=<tag>|--unpack-to=<tag> | 10:48 |
| lbt | I agree it should catch that | 10:49 |
| kaltsi | can I select in .spec file which compression util/algo is used to compress the rpm? I think it's now xz, but for local testing I'd like to use something quicker like gz | 10:49 |
| kontio | lbt: Fatal: Rule file interface version check failed: got 104, expected 105sb2: Error: startup of sb2d failed. -> any hint what is wrong in my env? | 10:49 |
| lbt | I further agree it's redundant and like your auto selection idea | 10:49 |
| lbt | kontio: yes - sb2 and rules don't match | 10:49 |
| lbt | you have new sb2 and old rules, update SDK | 10:49 |
| kaltsi | kontio: edit /usr/share/scratchbox2/modes/sdk-build/fs_rules.lua and change 104 to 105 | 10:49 |
| kaltsi | or update sdk.. better :) | 10:49 |
| Sage | lbt: well check my patches. :) | 10:50 |
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| Sage | lbt: https://github.com/saukko/git-pkg/commit/35352acd6511ccb143094e77dbc2dbfda09df04c ;) | 10:50 |
| kontio | I just did a sudo sdk-version --latest, zypper ref and up | 10:50 |
| lbt | Sage: I like to understand the "why" of a patch | 10:50 |
| Sage | lbt: you suddently have time now? :) | 10:51 |
| kaltsi | kontio: the "bad" package comes from mer-tools .. what's your sdk tools version? | 10:51 |
| lbt | Sage: no, I'm just not ignoring your higlights | 10:51 |
| lbt | I should :) | 10:51 |
| lbt | kontio: you may need rolling sdk - I think that bug is present in 'latest' where it doesn't verify rules version == sb version | 10:51 |
| kontio | Tools repos point at version: 7.1.0 | 10:52 |
| kontio | the last time I used rolling my sdk blew up :-) | 10:52 |
| lbt | sdk-version --core latest --sdk next --go | 10:52 |
| Sage | lbt: simple why for dropping --unpack-now is that we need to make it simpler. By default --auto should be automatic and require as little options as possible. There should be --don't-unpack option if that behaviour is wanted to be separated. | 10:52 |
| kontio | ok | 10:52 |
| Sage | lbt: already told this in backlog couple of days ago here ;) | 10:52 |
| kontio | I try rolling... | 10:52 |
| lbt | Sage: I know ... : "I further agree it's redundant and like your auto selection idea" | 10:53 |
| kontio | tja google didn't find it... | 10:53 |
| lbt | kontio: :) | 10:53 |
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| kontio | ok seems to work, thx | 10:54 |
| Sage | lbt: why did you ask "why" then? | 10:55 |
| * Sage is confused | 10:55 | |
| lbt | you are fixing the wrong bug | 10:55 |
| lbt | you were making .git when you should have been detecting a bad command line option | 10:56 |
| lbt | given the right command line it would have worked | 10:56 |
| lbt | but seriousl - I need to get some work done... tonight? | 10:57 |
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| Sage | lbt: which is just what I've tried to constantly point out. It has too many cmdline options it requires by default | 10:57 |
| lbt | personally I don't like magic | 10:57 |
| lbt | it bites more often than it helps | 10:57 |
| lbt | if a package maintainer doesn't understand what he/she is doing then that's a problem to me | 10:58 |
| lbt | I want a conscious decision "I want to use git/pristine tar/mix because I've evaluated upstream and know how to handle version control" | 10:59 |
| Sage | lbt: it is --auto. With --manual you can add 100^100000 options if you want. --auto is all about magic, right? | 10:59 |
| lbt | not "--auto will make the right choice" | 10:59 |
| lbt | no | 10:59 |
| lbt | --auto should be --supply-all-options-to-allow-a-complete-import-of-packaging | 10:59 |
| lbt | --manual means "I'll tidy up before the final commit" | 11:00 |
| lbt | maybe I should have --auto as the default - the way the code is written that was a tad difficult | 11:00 |
| lbt | since the audience for the code is ~5 people then there is a law of diminishing returns | 11:01 |
| lbt | that aspect of the code | 11:01 |
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| lbt | do you see what I was thinking? | 11:01 |
| lbt | I would like --unpack-to to *never* be used | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: thanks for prerelease btw, looks like it was finished at 1am something your time? | 11:02 |
| lbt | so having it pick it as almost the default is really bad to me | 11:02 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yes, sounds correct | 11:02 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I actually triggered mobs update to run on a timer - so don't read much into that | 11:03 |
| lbt | and Sage, to clarify: I'm trying to explain how I have been thinking about things - I am not rejecting your points. | 11:05 |
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| kaltsi | lbt: does gitpkg only operate on tagged revisions? can it operate on HEAD? I'd like to just try and build my latest changes with gp_release --git-dir=xyz, but I haven't made a new version yet? | 11:23 |
| lbt | kaltsi: it can operate on HEAD | 11:24 |
| lbt | at the moment it needs everything commited though | 11:24 |
| lbt | you want to do an osc build ? | 11:25 |
| kaltsi | yes osc build | 11:25 |
| lbt | first: this functionality needs work - there are a lot of cases :) | 11:26 |
| lbt | gp_release --help | 11:26 |
| lbt | "An alternative use is to *not* specify --ver or --rel" | 11:27 |
| lbt | so cd to your osc dir | 11:27 |
| kaltsi | yep, I've used it before like that | 11:28 |
| lbt | run gp_release --git-dir=../path-to.. and it should work | 11:28 |
| lbt | it should set release to a sha1 version with commit count | 11:28 |
| kaltsi | so it just makes a checkout of mer-master and doesn't care about whichever tag is the latest? | 11:28 |
| lbt | *mumble* | 11:28 |
| lbt | try it and tell me | 11:28 |
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| kaltsi | yes works | 11:29 |
| lbt | this stuff is genuinely complex in the general case | 11:29 |
| lbt | eg for a package which has a pristine tarball and some commits in git and .... | 11:29 |
| lbt | it has to add temporary patches to represent your WIP | 11:29 |
| lbt | I think gp_release may not be quite the right place - but I'm not sure - my logic was that it's kinda like doing a transient private release | 11:31 |
| kaltsi | hmm rpm release became "6.14.67ba25b" .. the 67ba25b is from the latest commit, but I wonder what is the 6.14 | 11:31 |
| lbt | 6 is probably the release | 11:31 |
| lbt | 14 is the commit count | 11:31 |
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| kaltsi | right 6 is the latest tagged release | 11:31 |
| lbt | the commit count makes the sha1 sort in order | 11:31 |
| lbt | so the next transient release should be 6.15.45663 and would be > 6.14.67ba | 11:32 |
| lbt | even though 45663 is < 67ba25b | 11:32 |
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| kaltsi | ok | 11:32 |
| lbt | just for local transient installs | 11:32 |
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| lbt | you see why my --help gets long? | 11:33 |
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| kaltsi | in the gp_release --edit case when I just want to edit the spec file, it prints out that make the commit with a specific comment "Release $patchtag".. but surely I can add my life story to the log too? | 11:37 |
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| kaltsi | I mean, do you expect to find a log entry with that specific format for some reason? | 11:40 |
| lbt | mmm | 11:45 |
| lbt | ah, I think that's a minimal "this will work" set of cut'n'paste commands | 11:46 |
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| Sage | lbt: well, I'm mainly saying that by default it should take only one option/parameter and try to figure out automatically what user wants. And if that fails then say that couldn't do it and pleaes specify more what is wanted. | 12:16 |
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| Sage | lbt: what was the planned evening discussion time btw? | 13:22 |
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| kkszysiu | Stskeeps: Ur living in Warsaw? :D | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 14:52 |
| kkszysiu | Interesting :) | 14:52 |
| kkszysiu | Why Warsaw? Why Poland? :D | 14:54 |
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| Stskeeps | kkszysiu: wife | 14:56 |
| kkszysiu | I see :) | 14:57 |
| Stskeeps | kkszysiu: you were further down south weren't you? | 14:57 |
| kkszysiu | Yes | 14:57 |
| kkszysiu | Wroclaw | 14:57 |
| kkszysiu | :) | 14:57 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: been there once | 14:59 |
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| kkszysiu | Hehe was it a good trip? Did you enjoyed Wroclaw? | 15:00 |
| Stskeeps | i did | 15:01 |
| Stskeeps | it was this dobryprogamy meego event | 15:01 |
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| lbt | phaeron: did you update webhook to work with git-pkg ? | 17:15 |
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| lbt | nm - it's the "Trigger build" button which uses "HEAD" which git-pkg doesn't currently understand | 17:17 |
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| Sage | lbt: https://github.com/mer-tools/mer-sdk-ssu-data/blob/master/share_ssu/repos.ini#L11 <- should be /%(release)_%(arch) if you want to be able to do next vs latest testing. | 20:55 |
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| lbt | Sage: yeah, provided release is only ever latest or next | 20:58 |
| lbt | line 7 looks wrong now you mention it | 20:59 |
| Sage | lbt: on rnd it really is only latest or next. | 21:00 |
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| Sage | on release I can see static numbers as well, but I haven't worked on that on nemo side either yet. | 21:01 |
| lbt | it's good enough for now | 21:01 |
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| lbt | ty for pointing it out too | 21:02 |
| Sage | got notification about new repo so gave it a quick look :) | 21:02 |
| lbt | ah, mer-tools ? | 21:03 |
| lbt | looks like webhook and github are not playing well together | 21:03 |
| Sage | :nod: | 21:03 |
| Sage | anyway time to head to bed I guess | 21:03 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 21:54 |
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