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Stskeeps | morn | 06:50 |
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kyyberi | morn | 07:14 |
woweric | MORN | 07:14 |
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SunnyDraje | hi just installed mer on my pc .. performed update.. and viola .. nuts and bolts everywhere.. zypper refuses to update .. path excludes sbin (with tools needed to bring network up(currently upped it by hands)... | 07:38 |
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Stskeeps | SunnyDraje: hi, do you mean the platform sdk or what did you install? | 07:41 |
SunnyDraje | basykom wetab iso on x86 tablet | 07:43 |
Stskeeps | okay, i'm not sure how they have set up their sw and updates, so you'd have to ask them :) | 07:43 |
Stskeeps | #active might give better directions | 07:43 |
Stskeeps | mer just provides a core, 'vendors' build upon it | 07:44 |
SunnyDraje | only one that actually works all other distros including ubuntu have something wrong either with kernel/kde/multitouch etc.. | 07:44 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:45 |
SunnyDraje | baseurl=http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120816.1/builds/i586/packages/ | 07:46 |
Stskeeps | well, it's more likely that the nemo or KDE part is the gulty part | 07:47 |
Stskeeps | y | 07:47 |
SunnyDraje | and repo of meego (which i think is ofline) that's base system repos installed// guilty part is something that updated system libs making broken paths and serivices not gui overlay | 07:48 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 07:49 |
Stskeeps | you can -probably- get a more up to date thing from plasma active directly | 07:49 |
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SunnyDraje | any links? i saw some sort of plasma active git repo | 07:50 |
Stskeeps | not handy, i'm not really involved with the project | 07:50 |
Stskeeps | but #active is their irc channel | 07:50 |
SunnyDraje | well sorry for trouble thnx for help digging deeper then.. ugh i hate hand fixed tough to maintain later systems.. but no choice// | 07:51 |
Stskeeps | :nod: releasing is a hard process :) | 07:51 |
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Stskeeps | plfiorini: did you ever play with llvmpipe on top of kms? | 07:58 |
plfiorini | Stskeeps, i am right now ;) | 07:58 |
Stskeeps | is it working? | 07:58 |
plfiorini | Stskeeps, i have some problems running maui livecd on vmware | 07:58 |
plfiorini | Stskeeps, i know there are problems with llvm, some assert | 07:58 |
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Stskeeps | ah, right | 07:59 |
plfiorini | Stskeeps, it didn't work on nouveau | 07:59 |
plfiorini | on archlinux | 07:59 |
Stskeeps | maybe you're hitting the AVX/SSSE3 issue? | 07:59 |
plfiorini | Stskeeps, maui still has llvm 3.1 and weston starts although i don't see any output | 07:59 |
Stskeeps | moment, wife calling me to breakfast | 08:00 |
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plfiorini | Stskeeps, maui februrary worked without problems build had llvm 3.1 and mesa snb-magic-14553-g0e2f26d5ea26febd16173aa8bbf7427b090e320f | 08:08 |
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Stskeeps | plfiorini: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/mesa.git;a=tree , http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/llvm.git;a=blob;f=nosse4-avx.patch;h=9b3d649741310be11e843fa44ce9d9940ca9d03d;hb=HEAD | 08:17 |
Stskeeps | is what i use - so, you basically have llvmpipe rendering into GBM buffers and flipping to screen with KMS? | 08:19 |
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Stskeeps | reason i'm asking is due to virtualbox, EGL_PLATFORM=fbdev is sloow | 08:26 |
Stskeeps | :P | 08:26 |
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plfiorini | yes it's unusable | 08:57 |
plfiorini | mmm looks like i'm using gallium 0.4 on svga3d | 08:57 |
plfiorini | so it's not llvmpipe ... | 08:58 |
Stskeeps | well, dunno | 08:58 |
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Stskeeps | should be possible to use llvmpipe somehow | 09:00 |
plfiorini | it should do it automatically, trying the older version i was using on feb | 09:02 |
Stskeeps | ok | 09:04 |
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Stskeeps | splitville | 10:33 |
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Sage_ | lbt: let me know when you have time for git-pkg discussion (rather sooner than later). Pushed more commits to my fork and to me it starts to feel something that one can use now. I've tested only one usecase really so far which is gp_setup --auto --pkgdir= and after that gp_release with couple of things. | 14:51 |
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Superpelican | Good afternoon | 14:59 |
Stskeeps | good afternoon | 15:00 |
Superpelican | I just compiled a small C++ application I write with the Mer Platform SDK with mer-target-armv7l | 15:00 |
Superpelican | *wrote | 15:00 |
Superpelican | I tried to execute it in sb2 with the same target | 15:00 |
Superpelican | and got: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped | 15:00 |
Superpelican | from qemu | 15:00 |
Stskeeps | heh, well, maybe it did in fact crash :) | 15:01 |
Superpelican | The x86 version runs fine | 15:01 |
Superpelican | And it doesn't include any platform specific code | 15:01 |
Stskeeps | show me the c++ code? | 15:01 |
Superpelican | https://bitbucket.org/Superpelican/clamshell_cli/src/4054b5c8856f347b574aa9768c3c0e5ef9a3c882/clamshell.cpp?at=0.3-release | 15:01 |
Superpelican | I've also compiled it on my Nokia N900 (Maemo 5) in EasyDebian and it was behaving weird to | 15:02 |
Superpelican | I thought it was just the environment on the N900 | 15:02 |
Superpelican | So I thought I'd just download the Mer platform SDK to compile it for ARMv7 | 15:03 |
Superpelican | But the one compiled in sb2 on my x86 computer acts weird on the N900 too :( | 15:03 |
Stskeeps | well | 15:04 |
Stskeeps | run your x86 one through valgrind | 15:04 |
Superpelican | ok | 15:04 |
Superpelican | aha, I think I've got something interesting | 15:06 |
Superpelican | <valgrind>possibly lost: 1,241 bytes in 23 blocks</valgrind> | 15:06 |
Superpelican | It also complains with: "Use of uninitialised value of size 8" | 15:07 |
Superpelican | So it probably has something to do with the size of variables | 15:07 |
Superpelican | I mean the difference between the variable size on x86 and ARMv7 | 15:07 |
Stskeeps | might be | 15:08 |
Stskeeps | or that you're not getting zeroed memory or whichever | 15:08 |
Superpelican | It also says: "Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)" | 15:09 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 15:09 |
Superpelican | So it must be near some conditional statement | 15:09 |
Superpelican | And when I run it on the N900, it outputs weird blank lines | 15:09 |
Stskeeps | well, it should ideally tell you line numbers too | 15:09 |
Stskeeps | should give you a hint | 15:09 |
Superpelican | it only gives hexidecimal numbers | 15:10 |
Superpelican | Don't know if that are memory addresses or line numbers | 15:10 |
Superpelican | well it does actually point to a line number in libc-start.c | 15:10 |
Superpelican | But I don't think that's where the real problem lies ;) | 15:11 |
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Stskeeps | moo Venemo_N9 | 15:12 |
Superpelican | Maybe this is more helpful: http://pastebin.com/DSQt3ZRK | 15:14 |
Superpelican | I converted the hexidecimal number that precedes "at" but it turns out to mean something close to 4000000 | 15:15 |
Superpelican | My program has 200 lines of code | 15:15 |
Superpelican | So I don't think that is a line number :P | 15:15 |
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rcg | evening | 15:58 |
fk_lx | rcg: hi | 15:58 |
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rcg | hey fk_lx, sup? | 16:00 |
fk_lx | nothing special, preparing another edition of smart devices conference | 16:03 |
rcg | sounds interesting, what's that about? | 16:05 |
rcg | i mean more than the obvious answer "smart devices" ;) | 16:05 |
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fk_lx | rcg: anything connected with smart/mobile devices from software to hardware etc. | 16:06 |
rcg | i see | 16:07 |
fk_lx | rcg: you can see some photos from last year | 16:07 |
fk_lx | http://www.flickr.com/photos/91844608@N06/ | 16:07 |
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fk_lx | more here to come (probably in first part of next week): smartdevcon.eu | 16:08 |
rcg | looks interesting, will try to keep an eye on it :) | 16:09 |
fk_lx | rcg: but it's not a scientific conference ;-) so no articles etc. | 16:10 |
rcg | aye | 16:11 |
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CosmoHill | moo | 16:18 |
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rcg | hey CosmoHill | 16:52 |
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CosmoHill | how are you rcg | 16:57 |
rcg | fine fine | 16:58 |
rcg | self? | 16:58 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: I'm looking into that issue with my program on ARMv7, it extremely strange valgrind only complains at some questions (my program asks the users questions, for example what is "5 * 4") | 16:58 |
Superpelican | *it=it is | 16:58 |
CosmoHill | I am well, tired | 16:58 |
Superpelican | it is an multiplication tables practising application | 16:59 |
rcg | yeah, am also a bit tired :) | 16:59 |
rcg | but we've been enjoying the fantastic weather today :) | 17:00 |
CosmoHill | yeah | 17:02 |
CosmoHill | I've had a bike ride and done work in the garden | 17:02 |
rcg | sounds nice | 17:04 |
rcg | :) | 17:04 |
CosmoHill | we took the shed down and it's just in a bile atm | 17:05 |
CosmoHill | pile* | 17:05 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: Now installing valgrind in the Mer Platform SDK | 17:05 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:Going to try to run the ARMv7 version of the program through valgrind in sb2 | 17:05 |
Stskeeps | mm, unsure how that'll go | 17:06 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: sb2 -t mer-target-armv7l valgrind /path/to/armv7/binary/ doesn't do anything | 17:07 |
Stskeeps | thought so, valgrind+qemu wont necessarily place nice | 17:08 |
Stskeeps | play | 17:08 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: ok | 17:08 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: Is there a way to find out at which line of the source code the memory problems occur? | 17:10 |
Stskeeps | if you build your program with -g it really should | 17:11 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: thx, will try that | 17:11 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: tried compiling with -g flag, it doesn't change anything | 17:14 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:I mean valgrind doesn't output more information | 17:14 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:http://pastebin.com/Lctt95C5 | 17:14 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: is there anything in that output that can point to line numbers? | 17:15 |
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Stskeeps | ok, you need to compile all your .o's in your program with gcc -g | 17:16 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:My program has only one source file: clamshell.cpp | 17:17 |
Stskeeps | ok, try compile it with -O0 | 17:17 |
Stskeeps | as well | 17:17 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: That doesn't change anything either | 17:18 |
Stskeeps | right, out of ideas then | 17:18 |
Stskeeps | run gdb on device perhaps | 17:18 |
Superpelican | It's interesting that an earlier version of my program (with less functionality) didn't have all these strange problems | 17:19 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:I'm going to try to compare them | 17:19 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps:And of course try to run valgrind on my N900 | 17:20 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:But I'm going to reboot it first, it's getting really sluggish now :( | 17:20 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: Looks like valgrind isn't available on Debian Squeeze (EasyDebian), strange | 17:24 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:going to try gdb | 17:25 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:I'm now finding out until which line my program runs ok | 17:35 |
* Stskeeps builds qtwebkit for x86_64.. | 17:36 | |
Stskeeps | let's see how that goes | 17:36 |
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Superpelican | Stskeeps: The GDB session went fine, there are blank lines instead of text the program should output, but it runs fine | 17:38 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: very strange | 17:38 |
Stskeeps | points to use of uninitialized variables then, perhaps | 17:38 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:That's what valgrind on x86_64 complains about: "Use of uninitialised value of size 8", I looked up c++ data types on cplusplus.com | 17:40 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: But it seems that double and long double are the only data types in C++ that have a size of 8 bytes | 17:41 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:My program doesn't use floating point numbers | 17:41 |
Stskeeps | a pointer is 64 bit (8 bytes), too | 17:41 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:thx a lot, that is very helpful :) | 17:42 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps: note: all information I gave you was from the x86_64 version of my program | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | right | 17:44 |
Superpelican | Stskeeps:Just tried x86 32 bit version | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | i have to go for now, bye | 17:44 |
Superpelican | ok | 17:44 |
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bunk | Stskeeps: Are there any working Zephyr adaptions apart from the ones for virtualbox? | 18:22 |
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Stskeeps | bunk: sure; though not as handily provided. i use qtwayland+wayland+libhybris-wayland on top of android drivers | 18:24 |
bunk | Stskeeps: What is the status of the raspberry? | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | bunk: i think vgrade+cx1000 does wayland on there, too | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | er, cxl000 | 18:25 |
bunk | ah, thanks | 18:26 |
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cxl000 | Stskeeps I was able to compile qtwebkit 5.0.2 for x86_64 and qupzilla work OK. does not compile for arm. | 22:13 |
cxl000 | Stskeeps I have also seen a number of programs under x86_64 put objects in /lib64 like python modules and libexec. | 22:16 |
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[ol] | cxl000: When I was bootstrapping Mer core for x86_64, I've tried to eliminate multilib. If you see other packages puting their libraries into /lib64 or /usr/lib64 because and you see that it's because some package in Mer core causes this, please let me know. | 22:41 |
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