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SunnyDrajehi just installed mer on my pc .. performed update.. and viola .. nuts and bolts everywhere.. zypper refuses to update .. path excludes sbin (with tools needed to bring network up(currently upped it by hands)...07:38
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StskeepsSunnyDraje: hi, do you mean the platform sdk or what did you install?07:41
SunnyDrajebasykom wetab iso on x86 tablet07:43
Stskeepsokay, i'm not sure how they have set up their sw and updates, so you'd have to ask them :)07:43
Stskeeps#active might give better directions07:43
Stskeepsmer just provides a core, 'vendors' build upon it07:44
SunnyDrajeonly one that actually works all other distros including ubuntu have something wrong either with kernel/kde/multitouch etc..07:44
Stskeeps:nod:07:45
SunnyDrajebaseurl=http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20120816.1/builds/i586/packages/07:46
Stskeepswell, it's more likely that the nemo or KDE part is the gulty part07:47
Stskeepsy07:47
SunnyDrajeand repo of meego (which i think is ofline) that's base system repos installed// guilty part is something that updated system libs making broken paths and serivices not gui overlay07:48
Stskeeps:nod:07:49
Stskeepsyou can -probably- get a more up to date thing from plasma active directly07:49
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SunnyDrajeany links? i saw some sort of plasma active git repo07:50
Stskeepsnot handy, i'm not really involved with the project07:50
Stskeepsbut #active is their irc channel07:50
SunnyDrajewell sorry for trouble thnx for help digging deeper then.. ugh i hate hand fixed tough to maintain later systems.. but no choice//07:51
Stskeeps:nod: releasing is a hard process :)07:51
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Stskeepsplfiorini: did you ever play with llvmpipe on top of kms?07:58
plfioriniStskeeps, i am right now ;)07:58
Stskeepsis it working?07:58
plfioriniStskeeps, i have some problems running maui livecd on vmware07:58
plfioriniStskeeps, i know there are problems with llvm, some assert07:58
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Stskeepsah, right07:59
plfioriniStskeeps, it didn't work on nouveau07:59
plfiorinion archlinux07:59
Stskeepsmaybe you're hitting the AVX/SSSE3 issue?07:59
plfioriniStskeeps, maui still has llvm 3.1 and weston starts although i don't see any output07:59
Stskeepsmoment, wife calling me to breakfast08:00
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plfioriniStskeeps, maui februrary worked without problems build had llvm 3.1 and mesa snb-magic-14553-g0e2f26d5ea26febd16173aa8bbf7427b090e320f08:08
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Stskeepsplfiorini: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/mesa.git;a=tree , http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/llvm.git;a=blob;f=nosse4-avx.patch;h=9b3d649741310be11e843fa44ce9d9940ca9d03d;hb=HEAD08:17
Stskeepsis what i use - so, you basically have llvmpipe rendering into GBM buffers and flipping to screen with KMS?08:19
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Stskeepsreason i'm asking is due to virtualbox, EGL_PLATFORM=fbdev is sloow08:26
Stskeeps:P08:26
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plfioriniyes it's unusable08:57
plfiorinimmm looks like i'm using gallium 0.4 on svga3d08:57
plfioriniso it's not llvmpipe ...08:58
Stskeepswell, dunno08:58
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Stskeepsshould be possible to use llvmpipe somehow09:00
plfioriniit should do it automatically, trying the older version i was using on feb09:02
Stskeepsok09:04
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Sage_lbt: let me know when you have time for git-pkg discussion (rather sooner than later). Pushed more commits to my fork and to me it starts to feel something that one can use now. I've tested only one usecase really so far which is gp_setup --auto --pkgdir= and after that gp_release with couple of things.14:51
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SuperpelicanGood afternoon14:59
Stskeepsgood afternoon15:00
SuperpelicanI just compiled a small C++ application I write with the Mer Platform SDK with mer-target-armv7l15:00
Superpelican*wrote15:00
SuperpelicanI tried to execute it in sb2 with the same target15:00
Superpelicanand got: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - core dumped15:00
Superpelicanfrom qemu15:00
Stskeepsheh, well, maybe it did in fact crash :)15:01
SuperpelicanThe x86 version runs fine15:01
SuperpelicanAnd it doesn't include any platform specific code15:01
Stskeepsshow me the c++ code?15:01
Superpelicanhttps://bitbucket.org/Superpelican/clamshell_cli/src/4054b5c8856f347b574aa9768c3c0e5ef9a3c882/clamshell.cpp?at=0.3-release15:01
SuperpelicanI've also compiled it on my Nokia N900 (Maemo 5) in EasyDebian and it was behaving weird to15:02
SuperpelicanI thought it was just the environment on the N90015:02
SuperpelicanSo I thought I'd just download the Mer platform SDK to compile it for ARMv715:03
SuperpelicanBut the one compiled in sb2 on my x86 computer acts weird on the N900 too :(15:03
Stskeepswell15:04
Stskeepsrun your x86 one through valgrind15:04
Superpelicanok15:04
Superpelicanaha, I think I've got something interesting15:06
Superpelican<valgrind>possibly lost: 1,241 bytes in 23 blocks</valgrind>15:06
SuperpelicanIt also complains with: "Use of uninitialised value of size 8"15:07
SuperpelicanSo it probably has something to do with the size of variables15:07
SuperpelicanI mean the difference between the variable size on x86 and ARMv715:07
Stskeepsmight be15:08
Stskeepsor that you're not getting zeroed memory or whichever15:08
SuperpelicanIt also says: "Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)"15:09
Stskeeps:nod:15:09
SuperpelicanSo it must be near some conditional statement15:09
SuperpelicanAnd when I run it on the N900, it outputs weird blank lines15:09
Stskeepswell, it should ideally tell you line numbers too15:09
Stskeepsshould give you a hint15:09
Superpelicanit only gives hexidecimal numbers15:10
SuperpelicanDon't know if that are memory addresses or line numbers15:10
Superpelicanwell it does actually point to a line number in libc-start.c15:10
SuperpelicanBut I don't think that's where the real problem lies ;)15:11
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Stskeepsmoo Venemo_N915:12
SuperpelicanMaybe this is more helpful: http://pastebin.com/DSQt3ZRK15:14
SuperpelicanI converted the hexidecimal number that precedes "at" but it turns out to mean something close to 400000015:15
SuperpelicanMy program has 200 lines of code15:15
SuperpelicanSo I don't think that is a line number :P15:15
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rcgevening15:58
fk_lxrcg: hi15:58
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rcghey fk_lx, sup?16:00
fk_lxnothing special, preparing another edition of smart devices conference16:03
rcgsounds interesting, what's that about?16:05
rcgi mean more than the obvious answer "smart devices" ;)16:05
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fk_lxrcg: anything connected with smart/mobile devices from software to hardware etc.16:06
rcgi see16:07
fk_lxrcg: you can see some photos from last year16:07
fk_lxhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/91844608@N06/16:07
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fk_lxmore here to come (probably in first part of next week): smartdevcon.eu16:08
rcglooks interesting, will try to keep an eye on it :)16:09
fk_lxrcg: but it's not a scientific conference ;-) so no articles etc.16:10
rcgaye16:11
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rcghey CosmoHill16:52
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CosmoHillhow are you rcg16:57
rcgfine fine16:58
rcgself?16:58
SuperpelicanStskeeps: I'm looking into that issue with my program on ARMv7, it extremely strange valgrind only complains at some questions (my program asks the users questions, for example what is "5 * 4")16:58
Superpelican*it=it is16:58
CosmoHillI am well, tired16:58
Superpelicanit is an multiplication tables practising application16:59
rcgyeah, am also a bit tired :)16:59
rcgbut we've been enjoying the fantastic weather today :)17:00
CosmoHillyeah17:02
CosmoHillI've had a bike ride and done work in the garden17:02
rcgsounds nice17:04
rcg:)17:04
CosmoHillwe took the shed down and it's just in a bile atm17:05
CosmoHillpile*17:05
SuperpelicanStskeeps: Now installing valgrind in the Mer Platform SDK17:05
SuperpelicanStskeeps:Going to try to run the ARMv7 version of the program through valgrind in sb217:05
Stskeepsmm, unsure how that'll go17:06
SuperpelicanStskeeps: sb2 -t mer-target-armv7l valgrind /path/to/armv7/binary/ doesn't do anything17:07
Stskeepsthought so, valgrind+qemu wont necessarily place nice17:08
Stskeepsplay17:08
SuperpelicanStskeeps: ok17:08
SuperpelicanStskeeps: Is there a way to find out at which line of the source code the memory problems occur?17:10
Stskeepsif you build your program with -g it really should17:11
SuperpelicanStskeeps: thx, will try that17:11
SuperpelicanStskeeps: tried compiling with -g flag, it doesn't change anything17:14
SuperpelicanStskeeps:I mean valgrind doesn't output more information17:14
SuperpelicanStskeeps:http://pastebin.com/Lctt95C517:14
SuperpelicanStskeeps: is there anything in that output that can point to line numbers?17:15
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Stskeepsok, you need to compile all your .o's in your program with gcc -g17:16
SuperpelicanStskeeps:My program has only one source file: clamshell.cpp17:17
Stskeepsok, try compile it with -O017:17
Stskeepsas well17:17
SuperpelicanStskeeps: That doesn't change anything either17:18
Stskeepsright, out of ideas then17:18
Stskeepsrun gdb on device perhaps17:18
SuperpelicanIt's interesting that an earlier version of my program (with less functionality) didn't have all these strange problems17:19
SuperpelicanStskeeps:I'm going to try to compare them17:19
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SuperpelicanStskeeps:And of course try to run valgrind on my N90017:20
SuperpelicanStskeeps:But I'm going to reboot it first, it's getting really sluggish now :(17:20
SuperpelicanStskeeps: Looks like valgrind isn't available on Debian Squeeze (EasyDebian), strange17:24
SuperpelicanStskeeps:going to try gdb17:25
SuperpelicanStskeeps:I'm now finding out until which line my program runs ok17:35
* Stskeeps builds qtwebkit for x86_64..17:36
Stskeepslet's see how that goes17:36
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SuperpelicanStskeeps: The GDB session went fine, there are blank lines instead of text the program should output, but it runs fine17:38
SuperpelicanStskeeps: very strange17:38
Stskeepspoints to use of uninitialized variables then, perhaps17:38
SuperpelicanStskeeps:That's what valgrind on x86_64 complains about: "Use of uninitialised value of size 8", I looked up c++ data types on cplusplus.com17:40
SuperpelicanStskeeps: But it seems that double and long double are the only data types in C++ that have a size of 8 bytes17:41
SuperpelicanStskeeps:My program doesn't use floating point numbers17:41
Stskeepsa pointer is 64 bit (8 bytes), too17:41
SuperpelicanStskeeps:thx a lot, that is very helpful :)17:42
SuperpelicanStskeeps: note: all information I gave you was from the x86_64 version of my program17:44
Stskeepsright17:44
SuperpelicanStskeeps:Just tried x86 32 bit version17:44
Stskeepsi have to go for now, bye17:44
Superpelicanok17:44
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bunkStskeeps: Are there any working Zephyr adaptions apart from the ones for virtualbox?18:22
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Stskeepsbunk: sure; though not as handily provided. i use qtwayland+wayland+libhybris-wayland on top of android drivers18:24
bunkStskeeps: What is the status of the raspberry?18:25
Stskeepsbunk: i think vgrade+cx1000 does wayland on there, too18:25
Stskeepser, cxl00018:25
bunkah, thanks18:26
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cxl000Stskeeps I was able to compile qtwebkit 5.0.2 for x86_64 and qupzilla work OK. does not compile for arm.22:13
cxl000Stskeeps I have also seen a number of programs under x86_64 put objects in /lib64 like python modules and libexec.22:16
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[ol]cxl000: When I was bootstrapping Mer core for x86_64, I've tried to eliminate multilib. If you see other packages puting their libraries into /lib64 or /usr/lib64 because and you see that it's because some package in Mer core causes this, please let me know.22:41
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