Monday, 2013-03-18

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xavinuxthanks lbt for your invitation00:15
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xavinuxlbt: so, I comment wgat I have test and the result and have to change it s state to VERIFIED?00:17
CosmoHillnight guys00:18
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Stskeepsmorn stephg07:11
stephgugh yes it is07:11
BostikI woke up, and thus was the day ruined07:11
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Stskeepsgood morning mikhas, phaeron08:30
dcthangmorning Stskeeps08:32
dcthanglong time no see :-)08:32
phaeronStskeeps: morning08:33
Stskeepsindeed, though i'm always around08:33
Stskeeps:P08:33
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kavurilbt, X-Fade: greetings from jake9xx. I have created an account in Mer bugzilla. Id: kavuri. Please active my account09:13
lbthey - no need on mer infra09:14
lbtthe only restricted service is making images09:14
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kavurilbt: thanks. Ignore my earlier activation request then09:24
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sledgeshello10:37
sledgeswhy is MerSDK specify yielding different .spec than the OBS boss_bot, from the same YAML ?10:38
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lbtsledges: different specify version?10:38
sledgesalong the lines of adding preun systemd etc?10:38
lbtdetails ?10:39
sledgeshttps://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/843710:39
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lbtphaeron: Sage: ^^ ?10:44
sledgesit tries to automagically help me out with .service files I added. I went the old-school way, (creating /lib/systemd symlinks etc), though would be nice to have a sample of the n10:44
lbtthat doesn't make sense to me10:44
sledges*new smart systemd way10:44
sledgeslbt, join the club :))10:44
sledgesas I'm just speculating10:45
lbtwhat version specify do yo uhave in SDK10:45
lbtmust be 0.2510:46
sledgesMerSDK bash-3.2$ specify --version10:46
sledges0.2510:46
sledges:)10:46
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lbtsledges: was the service file present when running specify ?10:54
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sledgesin the same folder? no10:55
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* sledges trying with .service file now10:56
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sledgesnow I placed .service file in the same dir, same yield10:57
sledgesnothing's changed10:58
lbt:/10:59
lbtlog a bug :)10:59
sledges:)10:59
sledgescould you teach me how to do locally (or via osc) what boss-bot is trying to do (i.e. specify) ?11:00
lbtit should literally run 'specify'11:00
sledgescheck_yaml_matches_spec11:00
sledgesso I could look in the code (python is one of my fav languages :))11:01
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lbtspecify", "-n", "-N",11:01
sledgesnot download and non interactive...11:02
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sledgesthe next step would be to look into specify on OBS itself11:03
sledgeswhere it decides systemd is needed11:03
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lbthttps://github.com/MeeGoIntegration/boss-standard-workflow11:04
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sledgesnice thanks11:05
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kaltsiif I branch a package from a project in OBS, will my home project inherit the prjconf from the original project?11:15
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kaltsiosc meta prjconf shows up empty .. but I guess it's somehow inherited11:16
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lbtmost don't have prjconf - does the branch source?11:23
kaltsiyes, like Core:armv7hl in mer ci obs11:25
lbtand what does your branch build against ?11:26
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kaltsiI'm not sure what you mean? I'm building with "Core_armv7hl armv8el"11:28
Sagesledges: well, you modified .spec after calling specify. So those files are out of sync11:31
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sledgesSage, I surely modify spec, but only for the custom/install/%files sections, like any other package11:38
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sledgeswhen I produce a vanilla .spec from current .yaml on MerSDK on my PC11:39
sledgesit adds all those Requires ldconfig11:39
sledgesnow boss-bot wants me to remove the ldconfig bits and add systemd bits11:39
sledgesbut it wasn't me who added them, it was MerSDK specify ;)11:39
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lbtANNOUNCE: Bug triage in #mer-meeting11:59
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sledgeslbt, Sage , thank you problem solved. I normally do: create .yaml, specify, manually edit .spec . What I should've done: create .yaml, specify, manually edit .spec, specify again, with .spec existing13:05
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lbtsledges: OK - in that case I misunderstood the bot output13:05
lbtit read to me like mer bot had added lines about systemd13:06
sledgesapparently after I modify .spec, specify wants to add more things13:06
sledgesbecause that's what essentialy happens13:06
sledgesI wish it didn't (.yaml should be a master of indications, all subsequent mods to .spec should not trigger specify altering .spec once again)13:07
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lbtthat shouldn't happen IMHO13:11
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Sagesledges: lbt: it happens when specify detects new files that need some new post scripts for example13:26
lbterm13:26
sledgesthat's a nice feature, :) TNH13:26
lbtno, it's not13:26
sledgess/TNH/TBH/13:26
lbtit feels wrong13:27
* sledges never knew about systemctl enable-daemon commands, and thanks to it, I do now :)13:27
* sledges didn't say it didn't feel wrong to me ;)13:27
lbtyeah, that's cool - but it should be in the yaml13:27
sledgesok13:27
Sagelbt: well, if one adds the files to .yaml there is no such thing.13:27
lbtsorry?13:28
sledgesSage meant to say %files13:28
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Sagei.e., user does yaml file. Creates .spec file from that with specify. Later user adds stuff to #>> files # <<file section manually to spec. Now those might have new deps that should be in place that user didn't know of.13:29
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lbtah13:29
lbtspecify  doesn't see a .service file in the current dir and modifies the spec13:29
Sageno13:30
sledgeslbt, .service in current dir or not, is irrelevant. specify only reads contents13:30
sledgesof .yaml13:30
Sagesledges: and .spec13:30
sledgesapparently :D13:30
lbtbut even so I'm not sure I'm happy at specify looking inside the 'do not touch' parts13:30
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Sagelbt: well it doesn't modify those parts it just notes that oh, user forgot to add dependency to this and that13:30
Sageand add those to the autogenerated part based on the manual entry13:30
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Sageafaik. this happens only for %files section13:31
* Sage really should be resting13:31
lbtso you now need to run specify after modifying the .spec!13:31
lbtSage: yes - go away13:31
lbtthis will keep13:31
Sagelbt: yes in some cases, but that is really users choise as files should be added to .yaml in the first place instead of straight to .spec13:32
lbtyep - I really don't like that feature13:32
Sagemight be a bit confusing yet I agree on that13:32
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lbtspecify is not speclint_and_fix :)13:33
lbtbut seriously, go and rest13:33
lbtthis is not important stuff13:33
lbtsledges: did you file a bug on this ?13:34
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sledgeswill do lbt , got the pastie and minimal .yaml to reproduce ready ;)13:35
lbt"rerunning specify without modifying yaml or specify-controlled sections changes .spec"13:35
lbtcc me too please13:35
sledgesparane pian Sage :) (if that makes sense in Finnish :)13:35
lbtit may be OK but I am not convinced - slightly concered about SDK impact too13:35
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sledgeslbt, subject should indicate that re-running only after manually modifying .spec13:37
lbtyeah - suggestion only13:37
sledgesk13:37
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xavinuxiekku: How are you. Sorry can you please help with this bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620 what have to do if I want to fixed it, remember I am new in these tasks15:22
Merbot`Mer bug 620 in systemd "Date and time are not set" [Normal,New]15:22
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w00tplundstr: I guess #620 is solved at nemo level only? (with dsme)15:37
plundstrlet me check15:38
w00t(re xavinux's message above)15:38
plundstrw00t: spiiroin: I'm not sure how this time checking works on nemo level only. I have made solution for sailfish only but spiiroin might know nemo situation. Simo are you online?15:41
plundstrxavinux: Have you tried to reproduce 620  on nemo (with latest dsme and timed)? Do we still have the problem15:44
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xavinuxNo Sir  I didn´t try yet, don´t know how to try to reproduce it...15:48
xavinuxrecently inroads in fixing bugs15:49
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plundstrxavinux: w00t: I only now realized this bug is on Mer (made by me).  My feeling now is that it should not be solved by mer but on nemo,sailgfish etc. because this is somewhat HW-depended. Ie. IMHO this bug should be invalid on mer level15:51
plundstrI made bug 620 WONTFIX15:56
Merbot`Mer bug 620 in systemd "Date and time are not set" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62015:56
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xavinuxplundstr: thnaks for your advice. So nothing that I must do to help with this bug?16:10
plundstrxavinux: right, it's done now :)16:11
xavinuxmay I know why was changed to WONTFIX to undestand better how bugs fixed work Sir?16:13
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plundstrxavinux: Like I said in the bug, I feel now that Mer is wrong place to solve this. Initial time setting should be taken care by systems on top of Mer, like Nemo, Sailfish etc. So WONTFIX on Mer but valid on Nemo, Sailfish etc. unless those haven't fixed it.16:17
* CosmoHill got a job :)16:18
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xavinuxok I understand Sir, thanks16:20
plundstrxavinux: Bug could have been set also to INVALID. It is matter of taste which one would have been correct.16:21
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xavinuxok Sir thanks16:29
xavinuxfor your ecplanation16:30
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sledgesit went to your email too lbt : https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69216:55
Merbot`Mer bug 692 in Spectacle "after manually adding .service to %files in .spec, it will be modified again by `specify`" [Normal,New]16:55
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sledgescongrats CosmoHill \o/ , wordpress?16:57
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CosmoHillhi sledges17:07
CosmoHillback and middle end design17:07
sledges:)17:08
sledgesgoot stuff17:08
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xavinuxSome help nedeed here to start verifying Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58817:12
Merbot`Mer bug 588 in zypper "Zypper is not able to find patterns when arch is set to armv7hl" [Normal,New]17:12
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SKonstantin_tabsledges, ping ?17:26
SKonstantin_tabWopps wrong chan17:27
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vgrade_congrats CosmoHill18:47
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kaltsiStskeeps: darn I left a stupid typo in my glibc gerrit submit.. can I reject it myself from there?19:04
Stskeepsjust amend it19:05
kaltsiahaa.. let's see, I realized on my way walking home :)19:06
Stskeepsyou can commit --amend and add the Changeid: or something like that19:07
Stskeepsit's in the contribution in detail19:07
kaltsiroger19:07
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xavinuxHi people, trying to learn how to fixed bugs. Any idea to start fixing bug 588 will be apreciate, thank you https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58819:28
Merbot`Mer bug 588 in zypper "Zypper is not able to find patterns when arch is set to armv7hl" [Normal,New]19:28
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* lpotter wonders why systemd is not letting his dbus adaptor appear19:42
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kaltsiStskeeps: ok, commit amended.. that's glibc ready for localedef accel, on my home machine build time went from 37 mins -> 21 mins accelerated20:27
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ArtoxIs there some config file that enables/disables serial terminal? I cannot get a login prompt/type any characters on my serial console and I dont know if my kernel or Mer broke it21:41
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Artoxwell, I am pretty sure its /etc/securetty21:47
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lpotteranyone here know much about systemd?22:43
sledgeshow much lpotter ? :)22:47
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CosmoHillcyas22:51
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lbtlpotter: maybe22:51
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lpotterI made a dbus service daemon. daemon works fine if I dont use systemd. if I start it, the dbus interface does not show up, although the process is running22:53
lpotter:)22:54
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sledgespermissions ok? is it called from under /usr/lib/systemd/user or /lib/systemd/system ?23:01
lpotteruser23:01
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sledgeshow do you start it? I normally end up starting from sshell: DISPLAY=:0 systemctl --user start my.service23:02
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sledges(can't remember exact order of --user and start arguments)23:03
lpotterpretty much. it starts fine. its just the dbus interface doesn't appear23:03
lpotterand no inidication of any errors23:03
sledgesmental :)) all boils down to systemd's invocation23:04
sledgesat #systemd they were quite helpful btw23:05
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sledges(for dbus IF to work, the process context needs to have dbus session ID etc)23:05
sledgescontext/environment23:06
lbtI'm no help - not done any dbus systemd stuff23:09
lbtyes, they're likely to care in #systemd especially if it's user session23:09
lbthowever we're on an oldish version23:09
lpotterok. thanks.23:11
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