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| chriadam | mardy: optimistic ping? Having some issues with multiple copies of signonpluginprocess staying resident in memory, each of them trying to handle process() requests... any tips on what I might be doing wrong? I've tried to ensure that I always destroy any auth sessions I create from an identity, so I don't think it's that. I'm also seeing some strange behaviour (eg, sometimes the session data passed through to the signon ui process has had the clientData | 02:06 |
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| chriadam | mardy: https://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/source/browse/src/oauth2plugin.cpp?repo=signon-plugin-oauth2#456 is that meant to be "expires_in" or is "expires" what facebook uses instead? | 04:23 |
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| chriadam | mardy: heh. that problem I was having with client data being stripped out was my fault. Sorry to bother you. | 05:38 |
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| sledges | how can I re-run dhcp on wlan0 having just connman in the system ? | 11:53 |
| Bostik | sledges: if the connman package ships its "test" scripts, one of those could be used for that (at least a year ago) | 11:56 |
| sledges | yes, they are there! \o/ finally shipping default with mer(-next) :) | 11:57 |
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| Bostik | I honestly don't remember which one I ended up using but they were suitably easy to try out ;) | 11:58 |
| sledges | set-ipv4-method | 11:58 |
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| sledges | weird, setting via dhcp just does nothing, stays at 169.254.113.113 | 12:03 |
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| sledges | ouch, N950 adaptation hasn't got libGLESv1_CM | 13:32 |
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| CosmoHill | hello | 14:47 |
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| sledges | hi | 15:16 |
| sledges | I have my own version of lipstick colorful home | 15:16 |
| sledges | how can I pull down and merge changes from upstream ? | 15:16 |
| sledges | (downstreaming :)) | 15:16 |
| sledges | OBS question ^ | 15:17 |
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| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: http://nexfiles.kjonigsen.net/ubuntu/touch-preview/ - ubuntu for phones..Seems they might be using libhybris =P | 15:24 |
| RaYmAn | (yeah, it's a leak I think) | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: yup, they said they'd oss their changes | 15:26 |
| RaYmAn | Cool :) | 15:26 |
| vgrade_ | is it out yet | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | it was leaked at least | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | some cardboard cutout apps or something | 15:31 |
| vgrade_ | how long to port sailfish ui to all devices :) | 15:31 |
| vgrade_ | they plan to launch on | 15:32 |
| sledges | :)) | 15:32 |
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| Stskeeps | motherfuckers | 15:34 |
| mikhas | ? | 15:35 |
| RaYmAn | I wonder how they handled armhf thing | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | libhybris is apache license and they've of course added a small bunch of lgplv3 libraries | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | well, i guess it -could- be worse | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | but not cool behaviour | 15:37 |
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| mikhas | now you cannot use the changes without relicensing your project | 15:37 |
| mikhas | the BSD license trap | 15:37 |
| Mric__ | Hello everyone, I'm having a little problem with the packages manager. If I want to update, view or install it gives me this error ''ErrorInternalError Rpm exception". I tried to run zypper -ref to refresh the cache but then I got this error ''error: rpmdb: Thread/Process 460/1047524464 failed:Thread died is Berkely DB library. error: db4 error (-30974) from dbenv->failchk: DB_RUNRECORY: fatal error, run ..", any ideas ? | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, they have singlehandedly convinced me to not start out with open source of stuff i do anymore | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | thank you canonical | 15:38 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, ask them to relicense back | 15:38 |
| mikhas | otherwise throw mud at them, in public | 15:38 |
| Aard | mikhas: they most likely won't do that, from how they operate I'm pretty sure they did that for exactly that effect. | 15:39 |
| mikhas | well, ask them, get a negative reply and *then* you can complain in public and make them look bad | 15:39 |
| mikhas | dont ask them and you risk looking bad yourself | 15:39 |
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| mikhas | worst case: they do the relicensing | 15:40 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: iirc I've seen some licenses explicitly disallow relicensing to gpl or similar =P | 15:40 |
| mikhas | RaYmAn, the problem is that adding GPL to BSD-style licensed code is compatible, but not the other way around ā¦ | 15:41 |
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| Stskeeps | well, ok | 15:41 |
| mikhas | if the roundtrip was fully possible, there'd be no problem | 15:41 |
| RaYmAn | of course | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | ok, there's certain improvements there that are not lgplv3 | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | that's good | 15:42 |
| RaYmAn | hm | 15:42 |
| mikhas | now, having that said, I can guess where Aard is coming from: Someone inside Canonical probably sees Mer & co as competition, when in fact they should look at iPhone and Android, of course. | 15:43 |
| Aard | yep. | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | either way, i can definately take in their improvements in some areas | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | and it makes sense to have parts of it lgplv3 as it's external libraries, i'm not personally interested in those | 15:44 |
| RaYmAn | heh, they seem to have based the android part of cyanogenmod | 15:46 |
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| Venemo | sorry I'm late to this conversation, but does canonical use libhybris? :O | 15:47 |
| mikhas | is there an official source? | 15:47 |
| mikhas | I cannot use leaks | 15:47 |
| RaYmAn | not yet, no | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-extras/llibhybris | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | and there's irc logs | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:47 |
| RaYmAn | well, ok, source that they are using libhrbris I guess | 15:47 |
| Venemo | and they are not even using git for it? lol | 15:48 |
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| mikhas | reading from git repos into bzr works just fine | 15:49 |
| sledges | but how can Canonical do that !? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5419923/can-gpl-be-re-licensed | 15:49 |
| mikhas | it makes sense for them, everything in LP is tied to bzr | 15:49 |
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| sledges | isn't a lawsuit appropriate ? | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: lgplv3/gplv3 is compatible with aplv2 | 15:50 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, this gives us 'free' hardfp compatibility for libhybris | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | which tbh isn't so ba | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | d | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:51 |
| sledges | and libhybris wasn't gplv2 initially, you said it's apache... ok then it changes things a bit | 15:51 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | anyway | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | from a global perspective this is a net win for non-android | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't mean i can't call the way it was done a bit ugly | 15:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:52 |
| Venemo | just a bit? | 15:53 |
| Venemo | did they send you a merge request at all? | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | no, but i just discussed and they're open to aplv2 too | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | so, OK | 15:53 |
| * Stskeeps goes study code | 15:53 | |
| Venemo | so they basically stole your code, relicensed it and did not contribute back | 15:53 |
| Venemo | that is typical for canonical | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | well, to be honest, they haven't released binaries yet | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | so strictly speaking, since i only found out today, and code comes out today.. | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:54 |
| Stskeeps | anyhow, whatever helps break the android monopoly on exciting hw.. | 15:54 |
| mikhas | that's the spirit | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | now, who's up for hacking google glass? | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:55 |
| RaYmAn | lol | 15:56 |
| Venemo | wat is google glass? | 15:56 |
| niqt | only american can to do it | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: those wearable display things | 15:56 |
| RaYmAn | 1500$ and having to be 'chosen' goes against that for now ;) | 15:56 |
| Venemo | ah. | 15:56 |
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| Stskeeps | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes | 15:58 |
| sledges | Mer on google glass, and Stskeeps' vision of A Day Made of Glass is one step closer :) | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | i don't so much believe in google glass tbh | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | and i'd much rather hack on vuzix's kit | 15:59 |
| sledges | yea, give us those buzz-/key-words now ;) | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | and the problem is simple really | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | how many supermarkets and other places do you see with "no camera"? | 16:00 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:00 |
| sledges | how does that tie in? | 16:00 |
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| Stskeeps | how can you have a constant experience if you're obliged to take it off, or get assuaulted by security guards when you forget to take it off? | 16:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:01 |
| RaYmAn | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ | 16:01 |
| RaYmAn | there we go - no more leaks | 16:01 |
| sledges | gotya :)) | 16:03 |
| ka6sox | where are the sources! | 16:03 |
| ccssnet | i love that question | 16:08 |
| ccssnet | i just asked emerson for their sources to the em543 tablet | 16:08 |
| ccssnet | no reply yet | 16:08 |
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| ali1234 | the sources are around | 16:16 |
| ali1234 | https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/qmenumodel/trunk is one bit | 16:17 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps, according to their own readme: "Goal is to be merged with upstream asap." | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | will begin to work to help merge in a week or so | 16:33 |
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| kulve | rcg: did you try getting logs from systemd? | 16:37 |
| rcg | kulve, not from systemd yet | 16:38 |
| rcg | tried to get output from /proc/kmsg but that didn't work | 16:38 |
| rcg | via ssh it shut down before the important output appeared | 16:38 |
| rcg | and locally it seemed that it didn't write the important part to disk before it crashed | 16:39 |
| kulve | there is something fishy going on.. | 16:39 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, i see.. so the contributions are usable? | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: probably, yeah | 16:39 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, nice | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | as i said in the end, whatever helps end the android monopoly on exciting hw | 16:40 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, aye, agreed | 16:40 |
| rcg | kulve, last time sound went crazy directly in connection to things breaking | 16:40 |
| rcg | i wonder if just my hw is funky | 16:40 |
| rcg | got another nexus 7 here | 16:41 |
| kulve | not likely, but of course it should be verified | 16:43 |
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| kulve | 3g + n950 + ssh + my operator just does not work fluently.. Not sure who to blame. I do have the slowest deal from the operator, but these 1 minute freezes are annoying | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: n950 has shit reception for me | 16:44 |
| dm8tbr | kulve: saunalahti? | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: use mosh? | 16:45 |
| kulve | dm8tbr: kolumbus, but it is the same thing at the end | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | bbl | 16:46 |
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| dm8tbr | ok, the lowest traffic class of SL seems to suck quite bad, especially in densely populated areas | 16:46 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I tried it but it kept my n950 too hot. There has been new versions since but I have not tried them | 16:46 |
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| dm8tbr | I live in Tampere/Hervanta and throughput is a travesty at home, sucked before I had VDSL. | 16:47 |
| kulve | dm8tbr: yeah, I haven been suspecting something like that, although usually these problems are most severe with bad signal. Currently I am 10km north from Ruka.. | 16:47 |
| kulve | 3g or 3.5g but low signal strenght. Usually works really fluently but then there can be one minute freezes with no traffic at all.. | 16:48 |
| dm8tbr | ah, that's something different | 16:49 |
| dm8tbr | pin it to 3G instead of auto. the traffic stops on transition 2Gāā3G | 16:49 |
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| kulve | usually I can see new messages coming in in irssi (over ssh) but nothing I type is visible | 16:50 |
| kulve | during the freeze | 16:50 |
| kulve | yeah, that 2g to 3g (or vice versa) is really slow on my n950. And it does it much more frequently than an older ericsson I have tried as well | 16:51 |
| dm8tbr | that's TCP | 16:51 |
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| Artox | I just noticed | 17:06 |
| Artox | on Mer COBS /usr/share/doc is writable | 17:06 |
| Artox | I had a spec file writing there in error anfd it just succeeded | 17:06 |
| Stskeeps | curious | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | bug please | 17:10 |
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| Artox | [18:10] <Stskeeps> bug please | 17:17 |
| Artox | where? | 17:17 |
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| lbt | Artox: bugs.merproject.org | 17:18 |
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| sledges | is it normal that repo takes so long (>5min by now) to have vew version of a package published? all flags OK | 17:52 |
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| sardini | hi | 18:38 |
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| alund | hello | 20:56 |
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| alund | just got a huuuuge update | 20:57 |
| lbt | good? | 20:58 |
| alund | system crash after 25 sec | 20:58 |
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| alund | now i restarted again, and restarted plasma-device which does not come up in a good shape | 20:58 |
| alund | the crash happened running knetwalk | 20:59 |
| alund | what should i expect to be improved? | 20:59 |
| lbt | ah, I think you may want #active :) | 21:00 |
| alund | lbt: maybe, i don't know why the crash happened :) | 21:01 |
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| alund | quite crashy, the update is a step back in that respect | 21:50 |
| alund | whereever the problem lies | 21:51 |
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