Wednesday, 2013-02-20

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sledges!seen Sfiet_konstantin10:47
Merbotsledges: Sfiet_konstantin was last seen in #mer 1 week, 5 days, 19 hours, 20 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <Sfiet_Konstantin> :)10:47
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Nicd-umm10:48
Nicd-[11:54:56] -!- Sfiet_Konstantin [~sk@tsf-444-wpa-5-002.epfl.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]10:48
Nicd-maybe it's case sensitive?10:49
sledges!seen Sfiet_Konstantin10:49
Merbotsledges: Sfiet_Konstantin was last seen in #mer 1 week, 5 days, 19 hours, 22 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Sfiet_Konstantin> :)10:49
sledgesa Merbotbug then :)10:49
sledgesor maybe it's the last time he said something?10:49
dm8tbrsledges: did he actually say something in here?10:49
sledges"!seen" != "!talked"10:50
sledges:)10:50
dm8tbrseen saying something10:50
sledges:D10:50
dm8tbrit's all bout the frame of reference10:50
sledgesit's all how semantically the commands are shortened10:50
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sledgesa package requires libsdl. is there a way I could provide it in OBS ? (mer hasn't got sdl apparently)12:20
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lbtsledges: yes12:37
lbtyou simply port and build it in your project12:37
lbtif it turns out to be more widely useful then it may go into a shared area12:38
lbteventually, if there is enough demand and it's suitable, it may go into core12:38
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Sagesledges: if you package SDL cleanly I would be happy to include it to nemo mw. You aren't the only one who has asked for it.12:41
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sledgeslbt, I build it in my project by adding a package to a project containing other packages depending on it?13:03
lbtyes13:03
lbtOBS resolves depends by looking in Repos13:03
sledgesapparently it existed in harmattan13:03
sledges(SDL)13:03
lbtthe first repo in the path is the one that is made by local packages being built13:04
lbtthen see the 'path' entry(ies) in the project meta13:04
sledgesit looks pretty OK here: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Acxl000%3Axbmc13:07
sledgeswill try to branch around13:07
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sardinihello13:54
sledgeshi sardini13:54
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rcgkulve, do you alse experience crashes with your nexus 7?15:04
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kulvercg: I have used it mostly without a GUI, so can not really say. No crashes without it ;)15:12
kulvercg: crashes of what?15:12
rcgi see15:13
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rcgwell, from time to time it crashes as in the ui freezes followed by a reboot15:13
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kulvethat sounds really odd. What makes it reboot?15:15
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rcgdunno15:16
rcgseems to happen randomly during usage15:16
rcgcouldn't pinpoint it to a specific task or action15:16
kulveI guess we do not have a watchdog enabled in kernel..? Or if it is, I guess nothing uses it?15:17
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kulveI have not seen any that kind of freezes with my nemo usage though, but as said I have not run it that much. Also I did let ubuntu idle for half a day and it did not either freeze15:18
rcgis there a way to something like "tail -f" on dmesg?15:18
kulve/proc/kmsg?15:18
kulvework on android at least ;)15:19
rcgah yes, found "cat /proc/kmsg" does what i want15:19
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rcgtwo guys same thought :)15:19
kulveyou can directly tail that too15:19
rcgaye15:20
rcginterestingly cating it also shows continuous output15:20
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rcghmm actually "tail -f" on it does nothing, while "cat /proc/kmsg" does exactly what i want15:21
rcgalright.. waiting for the next crash then15:21
rcgwell, crashes never happen when you need em15:23
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kulvecan you zgrep WDG /proc/config.gz? (I think WDG was the short for watchdog..15:33
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sledgeslooks like trivial fix, zlib doesn't link itself in, could you help me out pls: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=numptyphysics&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Acxl000%3Axbmc&repository=CE_MW_Shared_armv7hl15:34
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kulvercg: actually looks like it is WATCHDOG but it usually does not do anything unless somebody explicitly opens the device (and I can not remember what device it is..)15:35
rcgmeh.. battery is low :(15:36
rcgkulve, yeah,  zgrep WAT /proc/config.gz shows some things15:36
rcgCONFIG_WATCHDOG CONFIG_TEGRA_WATCHDOG CONFIG_TEGRA_WATCHDOG_ENABLE_ON_PROBE are set15:37
rcgbut i cannot investigate further while the thing is charging15:37
rcgfor some reasons it automatically suspends when charging15:37
rcgthat may be one more point that needs some attention... general powermanagement works but imho suspending on charging doesn't make sense15:38
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rcgand it really insists on suspending.. even after waking it up it keeps suspending after some seconds15:38
rcgkulve, do you think something is actively triggering the watchdog and is causing the reboot that way?15:39
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kulvejust an idea, not a very probable though15:47
rcgsledges, try "BuildRequires:  pkgconfig(zlib)"?15:47
kulveif somebody opens the watchdog device, it needs to poll it regularly, or the kernel will boot (I think)15:47
rcgsledges, ah just saw #nemomobile :)15:47
sledgesrcg, got "BuildRequires zlib " is pkgconfig necessary ?15:48
kulvebut as said, I doupt that freeze/boot is about wdg but I can not think of any other reason for the whole device to boot..15:48
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rcgsledges, just a second, switching to #nemomobile for that one15:49
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rcgkulve, i see15:50
rcgwill continue experiments when battery is charged15:50
rcgthx for the hints :)15:50
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kulvercg: you might want to see the systemd logs as well. Maybe there is a service specified to need a reboot when exiting/crashing. You could check from the .service files if any of them are specified to do so. At least I think it is possible with systemd16:30
rcgkulve, roger that :)16:31
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sledgesany cubieboard (or allwinner a10 in general) Mer HA efforts around ?17:12
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rcgsledges, ain't the pengpod tablet a10 based?17:22
rcgiirc there is an hw adaptation for pengpod17:23
sledgeshrm not here https://build.pub.meego.com/search/search?search_text=pengpod&commit=Search&project=1&package=1&name=1&attribute=&advanced=on&issue_tracker=bnc+%28Novell+Bugzilla%29&issue_name=17:23
rcgsledges, yeah, dunno where they put it but iirc they said at some place that they support plasma active17:26
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sledgeshere they are http://pengpod.com/dl/images/17:28
sledgesmer-test.* ...17:28
sledges:)17:28
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sledgeson Allwinner wiki they've got links to non-existing [[Mer]] since long time17:33
sledgesI fixed this now :) http://linux-sunxi.org/Mer17:33
vgrade_sledges: I did some work with mele1000 but was limited by its 512MB RAM for Plasma, I've a 1GB cubie on my desk waiting for some love. https://github.com/linux-sunxi for kernel source and gfx blobs17:34
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sledgesyup, that one has u-boot et al.17:36
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vgrade_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFvkZniHZc17:36
sledgesand that's the guy's repo (as opposed to the community's repo): https://github.com/npeacock17:36
sledgesvgrade_, it remains slow in vertical scrolling hmmm17:38
vgrade_sledges: that was a quick hack some months ago and gfx drivers have received some love since17:39
sledgesgoood :)17:39
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vgrade_sledges: http://ssvb.github.com/2013/02/01/new-xf86-video-sunxifb-ddx-driver.html has some benchmarks with the new xorg driver17:40
sledgesFPS: 328 !! 8)~17:40
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sledgesperhaps Aaron Seigo could now re-think his statement ;) http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-active&m=13528046621465117:44
sledges(for the performance part, not the GPL part ;))17:45
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sledgesa colleague has just brought cubieboard, so that's where I'm coming from :)17:51
sledgeswonder what .patchy differences are there between cubieboard and pengpod .17:52
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vgrade_sledges: penpod people had an issue recently where a batch of tablets which should have had same spec had different wifi hw so its anyones guess18:06
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vgrade_sledges: there is good efforts going on to get all A10 devices running the same kernel at least.  They have a config system which defines hardware specs pins etc (fex files).  A bit like device tree I guess18:08
* sledges got perxplexd by the flashback of the dreaded glamo issue on OpenMoko18:08
* sledges :nods:18:09
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vgrade_sledges: there is also some work being done on a proper device tree kernel patch for upstream18:09
vgrade_but as usual there is a  lack of docs for this part18:09
vgrade_glamo?18:09
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sledgesglamo GPU, went closed source just after openmoko guys signed hw deal18:10
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sledgesand also it had hw issues (gps not working when sd card is read)18:10
vgrade_ouch18:10
sledgesthat was years ago, history repeating as we see :)18:11
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CosmoHillhey dudes, dudettes and bots / scripts / robots18:41
sardinihugh CosmoHill18:42
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Morpog_MobileCould the final qt5 packages in mer work on harmattan?20:26
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rcgkulve, "managed" to crash it two times, with cat /proc/kmsg running via ssh, however directly after crash i see no output21:38
rcgwill try to cat to a file and see what happens21:38
rcghopefully it shows something meaningful there21:38
CosmoHill.o/21:40
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sledgesnight o\22:51
CosmoHillnight night22:52
CosmoHillsleep well / slaapwel22:52
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