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| sledges | !seen Sfiet_konstantin | 10:47 |
| Merbot | sledges: Sfiet_konstantin was last seen in #mer 1 week, 5 days, 19 hours, 20 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <Sfiet_Konstantin> :) | 10:47 |
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| Nicd- | umm | 10:48 |
| Nicd- | [11:54:56] -!- Sfiet_Konstantin [~sk@tsf-444-wpa-5-002.epfl.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] | 10:48 |
| Nicd- | maybe it's case sensitive? | 10:49 |
| sledges | !seen Sfiet_Konstantin | 10:49 |
| Merbot | sledges: Sfiet_Konstantin was last seen in #mer 1 week, 5 days, 19 hours, 22 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Sfiet_Konstantin> :) | 10:49 |
| sledges | a Merbotbug then :) | 10:49 |
| sledges | or maybe it's the last time he said something? | 10:49 |
| dm8tbr | sledges: did he actually say something in here? | 10:49 |
| sledges | "!seen" != "!talked" | 10:50 |
| sledges | :) | 10:50 |
| dm8tbr | seen saying something | 10:50 |
| sledges | :D | 10:50 |
| dm8tbr | it's all bout the frame of reference | 10:50 |
| sledges | it's all how semantically the commands are shortened | 10:50 |
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| sledges | a package requires libsdl. is there a way I could provide it in OBS ? (mer hasn't got sdl apparently) | 12:20 |
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| lbt | sledges: yes | 12:37 |
| lbt | you simply port and build it in your project | 12:37 |
| lbt | if it turns out to be more widely useful then it may go into a shared area | 12:38 |
| lbt | eventually, if there is enough demand and it's suitable, it may go into core | 12:38 |
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| Sage | sledges: if you package SDL cleanly I would be happy to include it to nemo mw. You aren't the only one who has asked for it. | 12:41 |
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| sledges | lbt, I build it in my project by adding a package to a project containing other packages depending on it? | 13:03 |
| lbt | yes | 13:03 |
| lbt | OBS resolves depends by looking in Repos | 13:03 |
| sledges | apparently it existed in harmattan | 13:03 |
| sledges | (SDL) | 13:03 |
| lbt | the first repo in the path is the one that is made by local packages being built | 13:04 |
| lbt | then see the 'path' entry(ies) in the project meta | 13:04 |
| sledges | it looks pretty OK here: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Acxl000%3Axbmc | 13:07 |
| sledges | will try to branch around | 13:07 |
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| sardini | hello | 13:54 |
| sledges | hi sardini | 13:54 |
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| rcg | kulve, do you alse experience crashes with your nexus 7? | 15:04 |
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| kulve | rcg: I have used it mostly without a GUI, so can not really say. No crashes without it ;) | 15:12 |
| kulve | rcg: crashes of what? | 15:12 |
| rcg | i see | 15:13 |
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| rcg | well, from time to time it crashes as in the ui freezes followed by a reboot | 15:13 |
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| kulve | that sounds really odd. What makes it reboot? | 15:15 |
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| rcg | dunno | 15:16 |
| rcg | seems to happen randomly during usage | 15:16 |
| rcg | couldn't pinpoint it to a specific task or action | 15:16 |
| kulve | I guess we do not have a watchdog enabled in kernel..? Or if it is, I guess nothing uses it? | 15:17 |
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| kulve | I have not seen any that kind of freezes with my nemo usage though, but as said I have not run it that much. Also I did let ubuntu idle for half a day and it did not either freeze | 15:18 |
| rcg | is there a way to something like "tail -f" on dmesg? | 15:18 |
| kulve | /proc/kmsg? | 15:18 |
| kulve | work on android at least ;) | 15:19 |
| rcg | ah yes, found "cat /proc/kmsg" does what i want | 15:19 |
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| rcg | two guys same thought :) | 15:19 |
| kulve | you can directly tail that too | 15:19 |
| rcg | aye | 15:20 |
| rcg | interestingly cating it also shows continuous output | 15:20 |
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| rcg | hmm actually "tail -f" on it does nothing, while "cat /proc/kmsg" does exactly what i want | 15:21 |
| rcg | alright.. waiting for the next crash then | 15:21 |
| rcg | well, crashes never happen when you need em | 15:23 |
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| kulve | can you zgrep WDG /proc/config.gz? (I think WDG was the short for watchdog.. | 15:33 |
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| sledges | looks like trivial fix, zlib doesn't link itself in, could you help me out pls: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=numptyphysics&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Acxl000%3Axbmc&repository=CE_MW_Shared_armv7hl | 15:34 |
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| kulve | rcg: actually looks like it is WATCHDOG but it usually does not do anything unless somebody explicitly opens the device (and I can not remember what device it is..) | 15:35 |
| rcg | meh.. battery is low :( | 15:36 |
| rcg | kulve, yeah, zgrep WAT /proc/config.gz shows some things | 15:36 |
| rcg | CONFIG_WATCHDOG CONFIG_TEGRA_WATCHDOG CONFIG_TEGRA_WATCHDOG_ENABLE_ON_PROBE are set | 15:37 |
| rcg | but i cannot investigate further while the thing is charging | 15:37 |
| rcg | for some reasons it automatically suspends when charging | 15:37 |
| rcg | that may be one more point that needs some attention... general powermanagement works but imho suspending on charging doesn't make sense | 15:38 |
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| rcg | and it really insists on suspending.. even after waking it up it keeps suspending after some seconds | 15:38 |
| rcg | kulve, do you think something is actively triggering the watchdog and is causing the reboot that way? | 15:39 |
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| kulve | just an idea, not a very probable though | 15:47 |
| rcg | sledges, try "BuildRequires: pkgconfig(zlib)"? | 15:47 |
| kulve | if somebody opens the watchdog device, it needs to poll it regularly, or the kernel will boot (I think) | 15:47 |
| rcg | sledges, ah just saw #nemomobile :) | 15:47 |
| sledges | rcg, got "BuildRequires zlib " is pkgconfig necessary ? | 15:48 |
| kulve | but as said, I doupt that freeze/boot is about wdg but I can not think of any other reason for the whole device to boot.. | 15:48 |
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| rcg | sledges, just a second, switching to #nemomobile for that one | 15:49 |
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| rcg | kulve, i see | 15:50 |
| rcg | will continue experiments when battery is charged | 15:50 |
| rcg | thx for the hints :) | 15:50 |
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| kulve | rcg: you might want to see the systemd logs as well. Maybe there is a service specified to need a reboot when exiting/crashing. You could check from the .service files if any of them are specified to do so. At least I think it is possible with systemd | 16:30 |
| rcg | kulve, roger that :) | 16:31 |
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| sledges | any cubieboard (or allwinner a10 in general) Mer HA efforts around ? | 17:12 |
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| rcg | sledges, ain't the pengpod tablet a10 based? | 17:22 |
| rcg | iirc there is an hw adaptation for pengpod | 17:23 |
| sledges | hrm not here https://build.pub.meego.com/search/search?search_text=pengpod&commit=Search&project=1&package=1&name=1&attribute=&advanced=on&issue_tracker=bnc+%28Novell+Bugzilla%29&issue_name= | 17:23 |
| rcg | sledges, yeah, dunno where they put it but iirc they said at some place that they support plasma active | 17:26 |
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| sledges | here they are http://pengpod.com/dl/images/ | 17:28 |
| sledges | mer-test.* ... | 17:28 |
| sledges | :) | 17:28 |
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| sledges | on Allwinner wiki they've got links to non-existing [[Mer]] since long time | 17:33 |
| sledges | I fixed this now :) http://linux-sunxi.org/Mer | 17:33 |
| vgrade_ | sledges: I did some work with mele1000 but was limited by its 512MB RAM for Plasma, I've a 1GB cubie on my desk waiting for some love. https://github.com/linux-sunxi for kernel source and gfx blobs | 17:34 |
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| sledges | yup, that one has u-boot et al. | 17:36 |
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| vgrade_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWFvkZniHZc | 17:36 |
| sledges | and that's the guy's repo (as opposed to the community's repo): https://github.com/npeacock | 17:36 |
| sledges | vgrade_, it remains slow in vertical scrolling hmmm | 17:38 |
| vgrade_ | sledges: that was a quick hack some months ago and gfx drivers have received some love since | 17:39 |
| sledges | goood :) | 17:39 |
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| vgrade_ | sledges: http://ssvb.github.com/2013/02/01/new-xf86-video-sunxifb-ddx-driver.html has some benchmarks with the new xorg driver | 17:40 |
| sledges | FPS: 328 !! 8)~ | 17:40 |
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| sledges | perhaps Aaron Seigo could now re-think his statement ;) http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-active&m=135280466214651 | 17:44 |
| sledges | (for the performance part, not the GPL part ;)) | 17:45 |
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| sledges | a colleague has just brought cubieboard, so that's where I'm coming from :) | 17:51 |
| sledges | wonder what .patchy differences are there between cubieboard and pengpod . | 17:52 |
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| vgrade_ | sledges: penpod people had an issue recently where a batch of tablets which should have had same spec had different wifi hw so its anyones guess | 18:06 |
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| vgrade_ | sledges: there is good efforts going on to get all A10 devices running the same kernel at least. They have a config system which defines hardware specs pins etc (fex files). A bit like device tree I guess | 18:08 |
| * sledges got perxplexd by the flashback of the dreaded glamo issue on OpenMoko | 18:08 | |
| * sledges :nods: | 18:09 | |
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| vgrade_ | sledges: there is also some work being done on a proper device tree kernel patch for upstream | 18:09 |
| vgrade_ | but as usual there is a lack of docs for this part | 18:09 |
| vgrade_ | glamo? | 18:09 |
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| sledges | glamo GPU, went closed source just after openmoko guys signed hw deal | 18:10 |
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| sledges | and also it had hw issues (gps not working when sd card is read) | 18:10 |
| vgrade_ | ouch | 18:10 |
| sledges | that was years ago, history repeating as we see :) | 18:11 |
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| CosmoHill | hey dudes, dudettes and bots / scripts / robots | 18:41 |
| sardini | hugh CosmoHill | 18:42 |
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| Morpog_Mobile | Could the final qt5 packages in mer work on harmattan? | 20:26 |
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| rcg | kulve, "managed" to crash it two times, with cat /proc/kmsg running via ssh, however directly after crash i see no output | 21:38 |
| rcg | will try to cat to a file and see what happens | 21:38 |
| rcg | hopefully it shows something meaningful there | 21:38 |
| CosmoHill | .o/ | 21:40 |
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| sledges | night o\ | 22:51 |
| CosmoHill | night night | 22:52 |
| CosmoHill | sleep well / slaapwel | 22:52 |
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