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| brad_qqq | Hi all,I created a project using mer kit.When I build it,it always said "make: Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 10 s in the future".How to solve it? | 00:53 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 01:04 |
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| situ | Morning | 05:52 |
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| dsadsadsad | hi | 06:59 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 07:45 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 07:45 |
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| sbaugh | Hey, if I was going to ask a question about Mer on a Nexus 7, where would be a good place to ask that? | 08:07 |
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| Stskeeps | sbaugh: rcg when he's awake, or #active :) | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: ping | 08:15 |
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| Stskeeps | http://ruedigergad.com/2013/02/17/video-plasma-active-on-nexus-7/ <- nice | 08:55 |
| sbaugh | Stskeeps: that was what I was going to ask about :D (issue with the keyboard not working and not being able to update because i couldn't type to connect to wifi) | 09:04 |
| sbaugh | Stskeeps: it's even smoother than the video shows | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | sure, camera's don't even record in 60fps :P | 09:05 |
| Stskeeps | which you may ponder a bit and wonder the implications of that and that many people rely on bad camera recording reviews of devices | 09:06 |
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| rcg | morning | 10:04 |
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| alund | hello | 11:31 |
| alund | if you ren plasma active in mer, you could give my calculator a spin: http://owncloud.alweb.dk/public.php?service=files&file=%2Fanders%2Ffiles%2Fkalqmlator.tar.gz | 11:31 |
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| Stskeeps | alund, #active's very good :) | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | rcg, a lot of positive attention on your video | 11:49 |
| alund | Stskeeps: i like it, but it have some way to go. | 11:58 |
| alund | i updated the package btw, so it should work now :p | 11:58 |
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| Stskeeps | alund: sure, most of oss uis lack compared to more production ones | 12:15 |
| alund | Stskeeps: on the desktop, i believe KDE is as good as anything, but PA is new ground :) | 12:16 |
| alund | Stskeeps: and so is mer, there are child deseases | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | alund: danish, btw? | 12:18 |
| alund | for example, i just rebooted pr accident, because the ui is weird | 12:18 |
| alund | Stskeeps: yes. are you? | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, used to live in aarhus while studying, then moved to warsaw, poland | 12:19 |
| alund | Stskeeps: well, hi then :) I've been to warshaw long time ago, before the revolution | 12:21 |
| * alund lives near svendborg | 12:21 | |
| alund | half the times PA boots, something goes wrong, and it has to be restarted | 12:22 |
| alund | like icons missing, or the activity switcher missing images | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | we're running a different system on top of mer in sailfish, mer's the solid part :) | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | so i think PA will mature over time | 12:24 |
| alund | but i have trust in it, so i start producing a few apps so it can be used for something... hopefully it will be easy to release the same apps for nemo and bb10... | 12:24 |
| alund | hopefully with PA 4, some of the most important problems will be solved | 12:27 |
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| vgrade | morning | 12:43 |
| rcg | morning vgrade | 12:51 |
| mord | laitoin poirotin nauhoittumaan ja imuroin menossa olevan historiadokkarin koneelle :) | 13:03 |
| mord | errm | 13:03 |
| mord | wrong chan | 13:03 |
| mord | nm | 13:03 |
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| Stskeeps | afternoon | 13:50 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: hey | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | o/ phaeron | 13:52 |
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| aiaiia | Plasma Active, in a nutshell, is a Linux distribution (based on Mer as a core) that is specifically optimized for tablet computers. | 14:10 |
| aiaiia | mean mer use kde? | 14:10 |
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| Stskeeps | aiaiia: no, mer is just a core :) | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | it's more that plasma active uses mer to make easier products and worry about higher level things like nice and performant UI | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | just like sailfish uses mer | 14:14 |
| aiaiia | so mer like qt？RIGHT? | 14:15 |
| aiaiia | A LANGAE | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | nah, it's more like a handy set of components you can take | 14:16 |
| aiaiia | btw， jolla can run Nexus 7 too？ | 14:18 |
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| alund | aiaiia: i run mer/plasma active on nexus 7 right as we speak :) | 14:31 |
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| aiaiia | what？ | 14:58 |
| kulve | thereäs a nice video about plasma active on Nexus7 on ruedigergad.com | 15:03 |
| kulve | there is.. | 15:04 |
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| Fluttershy0 | serious error is serious: Info: Retrieving zypper-1.8.3-1.1.armv7hl.rpm [496/564] ...error: not an rpm package | 15:15 |
| Fluttershy0 | trying again now | 15:15 |
| Fluttershy0 | I was wondering btw wy mic does nto seem to use yum even if I tell it to | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | Fluttershy0: clean your cache i guess | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | and --pkgmgr=zypp ? | 15:19 |
| Fluttershy0 | no --pkgmgr=yum | 15:19 |
| Fluttershy0 | dik why, if buzilding works now I can pastebin a log | 15:19 |
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| Fluttershy0 | <Stskeeps> Fluttershy0: clean your cache i guess | 15:29 |
| Fluttershy0 | how'd I do that? | 15:29 |
| Fluttershy0 | since I jsut got an error about rpmdb checksum beeing invalid | 15:30 |
| Fluttershy0 | /var/tmp/mic I guess | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | there's a mic-cache or something | 15:31 |
| Fluttershy0 | I just deleted that folder and now it downlaosd all new | 15:32 |
| Fluttershy0 | anyway mic cr fs plasma-active-armv7hl-gta04.ks -o . -A armv7hl --pkgmgr=yum --pack-to=plasma-active-armv7hl-gta04.tar --logfictive-build.log | 15:33 |
| Fluttershy0 | it downlaods and isntalls zypper and idk why | 15:33 |
| Fluttershy0 | oh typo | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | oh, because we don't use anything but zypper in the actual imags | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | images | 15:33 |
| Fluttershy0 | no, no typo xD | 15:33 |
| Fluttershy0 | sorry | 15:33 |
| Fluttershy0 | ah | 15:33 |
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| dm8tbr | hmm, did anyone look at recent intel-SoCs and Mer? | 17:09 |
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| dm8tbr | aka: is there a hw-adaptation for e.g. Atom E640T kicking around somewhere? | 17:09 |
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| MSameer | is there a way to clone from mer repository without having to register? | 17:41 |
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| MSameer | osc did it | 17:44 |
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| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: what gpu? | 18:20 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: EMGD *grumble* | 18:21 |
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| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: hrmmm | 18:22 |
| dm8tbr | the necessary bits and pieces are available if you want GLES. it does work with 'VESA' too | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: wayland? | 18:23 |
| dm8tbr | haven't looked at it. If not it might be possible to convince them, given that they are actively pushing it for embedded, but with 2x HDMI... | 18:24 |
| dm8tbr | I'm currently building a Yocto image for it, just to mess around a bit | 18:24 |
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| dm8tbr | it's a neat little black box and it's even _passively_ cooled! | 18:26 |
| dm8tbr | not like the exo-pcs... | 18:26 |
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| Stskeeps | specs? | 18:31 |
| dm8tbr | http://uk.kontron.com/products/systems+and+platforms/m2m/m2m+smart+services+developer+kit.html | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | ah that | 18:33 |
| dm8tbr | yup. I think I saw one during FOSDEM too | 18:33 |
| dm8tbr | I'll either put something on them that makes them work with e.g. info-beamer.org or I'll get 802.15.4 (aka zigbee/6lowpan/...) working and play with that | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | any clue on pricing of something like that? | 18:37 |
| dm8tbr | arrow (one of the distributors) lists USD 999 | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:38 |
| dm8tbr | intel seems to be happy to give them away though to interested parties... | 18:39 |
| dm8tbr | now that the hw is actually available | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:39 |
| dm8tbr | I signed up for mine during ELC last year. Got it in January. About a month before the next ELC... | 18:39 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:40 |
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| sledges | dm8tbr, make our mouths water with a sample application of an m2m kit | 18:44 |
| dm8tbr | sledges: let's see. haven't made my mind up yet. | 18:45 |
| dm8tbr | the easiest should be the digital signeage thing for devaamo summit | 18:45 |
| sledges | but in a nutshell, that box is a router+hub(+sensor?) | 18:45 |
| sledges | s/router/wifi-ap/ | 18:45 |
| dm8tbr | not really | 18:45 |
| dm8tbr | more of an embedded industrial PC | 18:45 |
| dm8tbr | with a bazillion of options | 18:46 |
| sledges | ah ok :) | 18:46 |
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| dm8tbr | the 2x HDMI is neat and hints also at digital signeage applications. think pedestrian precinct double-sided billboards | 18:47 |
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| sledges | so what does M2M stand for (machine2machine)? | 18:49 |
| sledges | as it doesn't sound like that anymore :) | 18:49 |
| dm8tbr | yes | 18:49 |
| dm8tbr | the zigbee stuff can be e.g. for home automation | 18:49 |
| dm8tbr | you could have a home status screen attached and connect to the internet over wifi or ethernet or 3g while controlling stuff over 802.15.4 | 18:50 |
| sledges | nice, it all sounds some cool ng stuff :) | 18:51 |
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| kulve | rcg: nice video | 20:18 |
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| rcg | kulve, thx :) | 20:30 |
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| Artox | does mer still provide a version of X.org that fits the 4_08 graphics sdk by TI(that is xorg 1.12) | 21:17 |
| Artox | apparenlty the image I just created runs 1.13 | 21:18 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 22:45 |
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