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| martyone | hi, I have problem using 'mic create'. For some ks files it "Failed to apply configuration to image". For other ks files image is created but trying to boot it it hangs on syslinux initialization, repeating "Initial menu has no label entries!". I noticed that mic reports only 13 packages to be installed while in mic logs on http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots I can see hundreds of packages being installed. | 08:02 |
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| Stskeeps | martyone: show me the command line you're using with mic | 08:04 |
| martyone | Stskeeps: sudo mic create livecd --record-pkgs=name --pkgmgr=yum --arch=i686 handset-i586-vm.ks | 08:05 |
| Stskeeps | ok, try with --pkgmgr=zypp | 08:05 |
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| martyone | Stskeeps: with zypp it exits quite soon with code 139. Just after issuing "Info: zypp architecture is <i686>" | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | martyone: okay, can you try to get the SDK from http://img.merproject.org/images/mer-sdk/mer-next-sdk-rolling-chroot.tar.bz2 instead? | 08:09 |
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| martyone | Stskeeps: that seems to help - now downloading 471 packages. I tried this SDK one hour before, but with pkgmgr=yum :-) thank you | 08:13 |
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| Sage | martyone: check that you mic version is at lest 0.14 | 08:18 |
| Sage | sdk-version --core latest --sdk next --go | 08:19 |
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| martyone | Sage: yes, now it is mic 0.14 (Mer 0.2011 Mer) | 08:23 |
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| martyone | Stskeeps, Sage: image successfully created and booted. Thank you. | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | no problem | 08:28 |
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| VDVsx | Stskeeps, humm, don't find this one in mer, looks like it was added after I submitted the other accounts packages: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=libsignon-glib&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared | 08:36 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, can you please create a new repo ? | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | in a moment, i'm looking at a commit i made yesterday and wondering what the hell i was smoking | 08:36 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, no rush, those flu medicines sometimes have good stuff inside :P | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | that it definately looks like | 08:39 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, yeah, you have been talking about drugs lately.. | 08:40 |
| iekku | :P | 08:40 |
| mikhas | iekku, only lately? | 08:42 |
| mikhas | I feel that Stskeeps has been high constantly for the last 3 years. | 08:43 |
| mikhas | How else would you come up with ideas such as Maemo Reconstructed and actually invest so much time in it? | 08:43 |
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| iekku | mikhas, but _speaking_ about... | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | mikhas: i'm just ahead of my time | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:45 |
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| CosmoHill | GCC tests: real1244m44.330s >.< | 09:13 |
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| davidqi | hi Stskeeps, mer-next-sdk is the latest version of mer sdk? | 09:47 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, in-development one | 09:48 |
| davidqi | not the latest release version ? | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | think we'll make a release soon but it's pretty OK | 09:49 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: my wishlist for upcoming release, account-changes in, sqlite in | 09:49 |
| davidqi | is this the one which support wayland underlying ? | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: ah, sdk isn't related to that :) mer release is already out with that content | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | Aard: sqlite's in after i fixed build of it | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | account changes.. the stuff vdvsx just sent? | 09:50 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: 'mer release' is the release of mer root fs, right? | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: not exactly, mer release is http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20130124.1/ for example | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01102.html | 09:52 |
| davidqi | then , 'mer release' is the base for 'mer sdk' to create customized 'mer root fs', am I right? | 09:53 |
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| Stskeeps | mer release is just a mer release, a mer sdk is a different path, which provides tools for creating mer root fs'es for example :) | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | so an older sdk can for the most part build a file system based on new mer release | 09:54 |
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| davidqi | then what is 'mer release' used for? | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | mer release is basically all the content, the packages, the source code that is mer core :) | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | sdk doesn't contain this | 09:56 |
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| Stskeeps | when you see a releases.merproject.org URL in .ks, that's the mer core it uses | 09:56 |
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| davidqi | just like "repo --name=mer-core ... http://...."? | 09:57 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/mer-srcpkgs-without-gcc-glibc-bash.svg shows it nicely | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | (warning, big svg) | 09:58 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: , is there a .ks file that enables the wayland support? | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: not yet, i got sick last week | 10:02 |
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| davidqi | oh, sorry to hear it | 10:03 |
| davidqi | are you OK now? | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | not 100% :) it's flu season here in europe - but i'm working on seeing if i can replicate my old setup | 10:04 |
| davidqi | if the picture can be searched inside, that will be better | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | yes, there's a tool called AgileBrowser that i use to make this with | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | where you can browse in | 10:08 |
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| cxl000 | stskeeps vgrade verified qt5-qtplatformplugin-rpi using qmlscene -platform eglfsrpi of minimer | 12:42 |
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| Stskeeps | cool | 12:43 |
| cxl000 | qwindow-compositor is display wayland client | 12:43 |
| cxl000 | qml-compositor and greenisland display backgrounf image and cursor but no wayland clients | 12:44 |
| cxl000 | packaging still needs some work to ensure all runtime plugin requirements are installed | 12:46 |
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| cxl000 | qmlscene -platform wayland minimer also works but the other clients are flashing between rendered and black window | 12:51 |
| cxl000 | as the animation plays | 12:51 |
| cxl000 | qmlscene also lacks decorations | 12:52 |
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| vgrade_ | cxl000: thanks for testing eglfs plugin | 13:53 |
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| vgrade_ | cxl000: I think there has been some work done on client side decorations for qt compositor recently | 13:54 |
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| vgrade_ | cxl000: not sure I can help with flashing issue though, Stskeeps may have some thoughts | 13:55 |
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| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: cxl000 also just seen this https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,46451 | 13:57 |
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| vgrade_ | Stskeeps: separation into plugins per hardware platfrom, wonder where they got that idea :) | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | yes, it's a good idea | 13:58 |
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| vgrade_ | cxl000: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#dashboard,1001079 for qt-wayland changes for greenisland by plfiorini | 14:04 |
| plfiorini | vgrade, cxl000: green island is not (yet) compatible with these changes | 14:08 |
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| vgrade_ | plfiorini: ok | 14:26 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, seems like armv7tnhl might finally have stabilized | 14:36 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: \o/ | 14:38 |
| vgrade_ | plfiorini: you get your raspberry pi yet? | 14:39 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: upgraded binutils and to gcc-linaro 2013.01, seems to have done the trick finally.. | 14:41 |
| phaeron | cool | 14:42 |
| plfiorini | vgrade: no it's missing in action | 14:43 |
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| plfiorini | vgrade: i should cancel my order and buy it from another store but i'm afraid rs components won't give me my money back because they are clearily not capabable of doing their job | 14:44 |
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| plfiorini | vgrade: they don't even reply to my mails | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | when did you order, out of curiousity? | 14:45 |
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| plfiorini | Stskeeps: 2nd Dec | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | i ordered through rs and got it pretty quickly, but that was like ~5 months ago | 14:45 |
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| plfiorini | probably there was a problem with my order but since they won't reply to my emails we'll never know | 14:46 |
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| vgrade_ | plfiorini: I have a spare f you need onw | 14:46 |
| plfiorini | i don't even have a tracking number because they shipped it | 14:47 |
| plfiorini | vgrade: i would prefer mine 'cause i payed it :) | 14:47 |
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| vgrade_ | plfiorini: np, offer is still they if you change your mind | 14:50 |
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| plfiorini | vgrade: thanks! | 14:52 |
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| Stskeeps | /fast/carsten-glibc/home/abuild/rpmbuild/RPMS/armv7tnhl/glibc-2.15-1.armv7tnhl.rpm | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | \o/ | 15:40 |
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| yunta | ? | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | toolchain solved the way-too-unstable thumb2+neon port | 15:43 |
| yunta | oh, can we use that on n9? | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | but not on n900 | 15:44 |
| yunta | hw broken tumb ? | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 15:44 |
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| yunta | do we have any benchmarks appropriate for this situation ? :) | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | memory impact should be notice-able | 15:46 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, said that too soon about armv7tnhl | 16:54 |
| yunta | lol | 16:56 |
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| Stskeeps | you got drafted? | 18:08 |
| CosmoHill | we don't do that here | 18:08 |
| CosmoHill | as of yesterday we do gay marriage tho | 18:09 |
| CosmoHill | anyway, I just got back from my first welding lesson :) | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that explains the YMCA outfit | 18:09 |
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| merlin1991 | <Stskeeps> but not on n900 hm I bet freemangordon disagrees :D | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | merlin1991: yeah, but i'm not getting into that discussion | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:25 |
| merlin1991 | though I have to say his thumbified maemo runs quite fast compared to stock | 18:26 |
| merlin1991 | btw I had a fancy Fatal: kernel too old message from sb2 today | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | the reasoning is that a full gles 60fps system demands much more of a system than maemo5 ever did, so the impact of branching cache being cleared would be noticeable | 18:26 |
| merlin1991 | turned out that some silly mupped built a crosstoolchain with a glibc that has min kernel version 3.7.3 | 18:26 |
| merlin1991 | which does not like to run on my 3.2.0 kernel :) | 18:27 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:27 |
| merlin1991 | and then crosstools-ng fails to dl stuff, because apparently kernel.org did rearrange the ftp | 18:28 |
| Stskeeps | isn't embedded fun? | 18:28 |
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| CosmoHill | maybe I can combine my welding course and computer science to make robots | 18:28 |
| merlin1991 | well I'm happy I'm finally doing it for work and not only for fun :) | 18:29 |
| merlin1991 | but it does not want me to be happy | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:29 |
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| merlin1991 | any hints on the lightes package manager out there? I'm not exactly in the mood to build perl just for dpkg + apt, and I have nfc about all the others :D | 18:30 |
| merlin1991 | s/htes/lightest/ | 18:30 |
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| Stskeeps | frankly i think rpm is fairly nice, :P | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | but i guess ipkg is more light | 18:31 |
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| merlin1991 | hm looks like ipkg is dead and all the cool kids use opkg nowadays | 18:32 |
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| merlin1991 | Stskeeps: but I'm hanging in, eventually this crappy hotel wireless will give me all the stuff I need to happily cross compile in sb2 again :) | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:51 |
| mikhas | ooooh sb2 users | 18:51 |
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| Stskeeps | so, wipebinaries does not always remove everything | 20:03 |
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| Stskeeps | http://sourceware.org/ml/glibc-cvs/2013-q1/msg00115.html | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | oh dear god | 20:09 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: no, it doesn't ... annoying isn't it | 20:21 |
| [ol] | We all know that value of sin(x) can reach as high as 5 during war. It would be logical to assume that two can be negative at some exceptional circumstances. | 20:21 |
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| lbt | hey [ol] | 20:22 |
| [ol] | lbt: Hi! | 20:23 |
| lbt | did you survive FOSDEM un-flu'ed | 20:23 |
| [ol] | lbt: I was thinking so until yesterday, but my hope vanished today... :-( | 20:23 |
| [ol] | lbt: What about you? | 20:23 |
| lbt | it got me on the plane on the way to Hel | 20:24 |
| lbt | fairly light dose so far | 20:24 |
| [ol] | On the way to Hell??? :-O You'd choose better airline next time. :-) | 20:24 |
| lbt | :D | 20:25 |
| [ol] | Did you have snow on Tuesday? | 20:25 |
| lbt | here, yes | 20:25 |
| lbt | in Finland | 20:26 |
| lbt | not in Reading AFAIK | 20:26 |
| [ol] | Yes, in Finland it's normal. I was just confused whether you were flying home first or straight to Helsinki. | 20:27 |
| lbt | home on sun, fly out on mon, back tomorrow morning | 20:27 |
| * Stskeeps only made it back to poland | 20:28 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: well, i have some cleanup work after i botched gmp downgrade :) | 20:28 |
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| * Stskeeps gets out butcher knives | 20:28 | |
| lbt | oop | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | unresolvable: 378 | 20:29 |
| lbt | [ol]: jolla were saying at FOSDEM that their SDK is released in a few weeks so it'll involve pushes to mer too | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | and that's when i started looking for my vodka | 20:29 |
| lbt | ouch | 20:29 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yeah - I'm looking at the buildresult thing again | 20:29 |
| lbt | I see the calls returning 200 at the api side | 20:29 |
| [ol] | lbt: Changes to Mer are always welcome, especially positive ones. :-) | 20:30 |
| lbt | so I'm worried the fe DB is having problems | 20:30 |
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| lbt | [ol]: yeah, the Qt SDK is looking very nice now | 20:30 |
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| sledges | lbt, yup, wanted to suggesti to look at COBS as working instance of buildresults to ease rootcausing | 20:35 |
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| sledges | hello Oleg :) | 20:35 |
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| [ol] | sledges: Labas naktas! :-) | 20:36 |
| lbt | sledges: hey.... the webui calls the api a lot ... most calls are working | 20:36 |
| [ol] | (Is it correct Lithuanian?) | 20:36 |
| [ol] | sledges: How's your health after FOSDEM? | 20:38 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: the good news is that a mds + core release == excellent to resurrect from | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:42 |
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| lbt | useful | 20:42 |
| lbt | make HOWTO notes | 20:43 |
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| Stskeeps | the bad news is that i had to go into :full and rm the offending packages since wipebinaries is such a wimp | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | and rescan repository with obs_admin | 20:43 |
| lbt | yes, iI need to do that for sdk-setup rpms | 20:43 |
| lbt | but I'm moving Tools to mobs soon so... | 20:44 |
| lbt | lazy :) | 20:44 |
| xuedi | Hi folks, does anyone have infos about mer/sailfish on the pengpad? | 20:44 |
| lbt | hey xuedi | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | pengpod you mean | 20:44 |
| sledges | labas vakaras, but you were close [ol] :) My health is stable (knock wood 3x), paldies :) how's yours? did you catch anything off Stskeeps ? :) | 20:44 |
| xuedi | woops, a Freudian slip :-P | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | xuedi: if you have kernel sources and ability to flash own rootfs and kernel to your device plus opengl es2 drivers, you're off to a good start.. | 20:45 |
| sledges | i believe you're firebugging loads atm lbt :) | 20:45 |
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| xuedi | @Stskeeps: cool, hope they get the last blobs out of the system soon then :-) | 20:46 |
| xuedi | thanks! | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: do you happen to have the glibc patches for bootstrapping? | 20:46 |
| [ol] | sledges: I've got some infection most likely from somebody else at FOSDEM in public transport. | 20:47 |
| sledges | ow, well I hope you'll get well soon. i didnt use public transport, so that pinpoints the chances ;) | 20:47 |
| [ol] | Makes sense. | 20:48 |
| [ol] | (I meant, "at FORDEM or in public transport", but you've got in already.) | 20:49 |
| [ol] | (I mean, "you've got it".) | 20:52 |
| Stskeeps | "I mean" is language's s/foo/bar/g operator | 20:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:55 |
| [ol] | This is about me now: http://www.bash.org/?772595 | 20:56 |
| sledges | s/I mean\(.*\)/s\/\1\// | 20:57 |
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| [ol] | Yes, I'm aware of this style, but for some reason I don't like it. May be some trauma after using csh... | 20:58 |
| sledges | that makes you more human, and I like it | 20:59 |
| [ol] | Great! I've finally passed Turing test! :-) | 21:00 |
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| sledges | there is still a remote chance you are just a machine though.. | 21:01 |
| [ol] | An android, for example. | 21:03 |
| sledges | or a fish :) | 21:03 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: seeing the bootstrap logic in gcc made me wonder if i could pull off the toolchain-core split, so i was interested in if you had glibc packaging that could be used for compiler bootstrapping | 21:04 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: Yes, I have heavy modifications to gcc, glibc, binutils (not so heavy) and even kernel-headers that I didn't submit yet. They's little bit messy, but I can submit them for review anyway. | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 21:07 |
| [ol] | I've submited mangled gcc to OBS without submiting to git because I was much less familiar with OBS at that time. | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | i'd like to see the glibc packaging before submission, out of interest | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | i've submitted some of your build:x86_64 stuff already to get things rolling | 21:08 |
| [ol] | Uh oh... | 21:09 |
| [ol] | I hope my changes to gcc are OK (at least, I use this gcc to build x86_64 packages). | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i had to modify things a little bit but otherwise quite goo | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | d | 21:10 |
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| [ol] | What a relief... I've just missed this part when submiting other changes for code review. | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | i also ripped out the -accel support while i was at it, was good to make it a little more readable | 21:11 |
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| [ol] | I didn't know what this -accel is about, so I've left it intact. | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's from the old cross approach | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | evil mix of x86 and arm binaries :) | 21:13 |
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| [ol] | And I didn't get why it was necessary to repeat almost the same part for all supported architectures. So I've refactored it to have much less repetitions. | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | there was a hiccup, you can't do echo | sed in BuildRequires: | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | obs rpm parser doesn't go that deep | 21:16 |
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| Stskeeps | but that one got fixed by a bit of pre-setting in precheckin.sh | 21:16 |
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| Stskeeps | bbl sleep | 21:18 |
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| [ol] | Have a good night. I'll wait a couple of days to submit my changes because I'm afraid now I can introduce more bugs that fixes. See the avalaunche of my self-corrections in this chat above. | 21:20 |
| Stskeeps | i had that feeling after looking at my gcc package during today | 21:22 |
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| sledges | na zdorovye | 21:26 |
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| [ol] | sledges: Спасибо! :-) | 21:32 |
| DaltonX | noob question: I'm trying to build a Nemo image using the Mer platform SDK with the following cmdline "sudo mic create livecd -A i586 -o . handset-i586-vm.ks", but this fails with "Error <creator>: Failed to build transaction : syslinux-extlinux-4.05-1.2.i586 requires libc.so.6". Any idea why? | 21:35 |
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| sledges | DaltonX, how old is your mer? | 22:26 |
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| sledges | old/young ;) | 22:27 |
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| DaltonX | my mer? | 22:27 |
| DaltonX | sdk? | 22:27 |
| sledges | mer sdk | 22:27 |
| DaltonX | well, just got it from some link on the wiki | 22:28 |
| DaltonX | I think I got this one: https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/mer-sdk-i486-chroot-latest.tar.bz2 | 22:29 |
| sledges | DaltonX, congrats, we're getting the same error :) | 22:30 |
| DaltonX | ahhh, good | 22:30 |
| DaltonX | I mean... uhm | 22:30 |
| sledges | might have to use i486.ks .. | 22:31 |
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| sledges | lemme try | 22:31 |
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| sledges | hm, the i486 ends with Error <kickstart>: Unable to run ['/bin/cp', '-f', '/usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC', '/etc/localtime']! | 22:36 |
| DaltonX | mhm | 22:36 |
| DaltonX | seen that one too | 22:36 |
| DaltonX | I get the same error if I use -A i686 with the i586.ks | 22:38 |
| sledges | but where I'm coming from is that mer sdk is i486, so might not like building i586 images (which should not be the case, at it has no problems building arm ones) <- great, you just found a bug.. | 22:38 |
| sledges | ..or two :) | 22:38 |
| DaltonX | :^) | 22:39 |
| DaltonX | that is kind of good | 22:39 |
| DaltonX | cause I was feeling rather clumsy not getting it to work | 22:39 |
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| sledges | DaltonX, try adding --pkgmgr=zypp | 22:44 |
| DaltonX | work maybe a little better, but ended in a python backtrace | 22:46 |
| sledges | -A i486 still ? | 22:46 |
| sledges | please paste that backtrace to pastie.org (or at least most relevant couple of lines here directly) | 22:47 |
| DaltonX | ah.. no .. i586 | 22:47 |
| sledges | well, should work with either --arch though.. | 22:47 |
| sledges | ;) | 22:47 |
| sledges | you can try re-running with --pkgmgr=yaml instead | 22:48 |
| DaltonX | File "/usr/lib/mic/plugins/backend/zypppkgmgr.py", line 190, in selectPackage | 22:48 |
| DaltonX | if item.name() in self.excpkgs.keys() and \ | 22:48 |
| DaltonX | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/zypp.py", line 3037, in <lambda> | 22:48 |
| DaltonX | __getattr__ = lambda self, name: _swig_getattr(self, PoolItem, name) | 22:48 |
| DaltonX | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/zypp.py", line 55, in _swig_getattr | 22:48 |
| DaltonX | raise AttributeError(name) | 22:48 |
| DaltonX | AttributeError: name | 22:48 |
| sledges | ^ | 22:48 |
| DaltonX | ok :) | 22:48 |
| sledges | (as I thought :)) | 22:48 |
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| DaltonX | got a backtrace for i486 as well | 22:50 |
| DaltonX | with zypp | 22:50 |
| sledges | sorry, this'd be the remedy: --pkgmgr=yaml | 22:50 |
| sledges | sorry | 22:51 |
| sledges | --pkgmgr=yum | 22:51 |
| sledges | double sorry lmao :D | 22:51 |
| * sledges needz zZzZ | 22:51 | |
| DaltonX | ah :) | 22:52 |
| DaltonX | nod | 22:52 |
| DaltonX | thx for the help so far :) | 22:52 |
| sledges | fingers cross(compile)d this time ;) | 22:52 |
| sledges | though in theory all look positive :P | 22:53 |
| DaltonX | Error <kickstart>: Unable to run ['/bin/cp', '-f', '/usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC', '/etc/localtime']! | 22:53 |
| sledges | if that's with i586, means we're advancing :)) | 22:54 |
| DaltonX | with yum. I guess yum is the default? | 22:54 |
| DaltonX | no that was 486 | 22:54 |
| DaltonX | I can try with i586 | 22:54 |
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| DaltonX | back to original error when using --pkgmgr)yum with i586 | 22:56 |
| DaltonX | = | 22:56 |
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| sledges | something gets borked in the middle DaltonX | 23:09 |
| sledges | I'll look at this more tomorrow | 23:09 |
| sledges | meanwhile last resort is to try other create methods (fs, raw) | 23:10 |
| sledges | but this is just for a quick-check | 23:10 |
| sledges | g'nite fore now :) | 23:10 |
| DaltonX | good night, and thanks for the help so far :) | 23:17 |
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