| lbt | rsequeir: ? | 00:01 |
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| lbt | having issues? | 00:01 |
| rsequeir | yes.. maybe comes from me also.. finished dining drunk | 00:02 |
| lbt | LOL | 00:02 |
| * lbt thinks back to last night.... mmm | 00:02 | |
| lbt | anyhoo | 00:02 |
| lbt | http://img.merproject.org/images/mer-targets/ | 00:02 |
| lbt | may help | 00:02 |
| lbt | these are very new ks - untested | 00:03 |
| lbt | I'm writing a talk for tomorrow atm - ask questions here and I'll try to respond eventually | 00:03 |
| lbt | probably tomorrow | 00:03 |
| rsequeir | would like to run mic command using mer-minimal-lipstick-pandaboard-armv7hl.ks | 00:04 |
| lbt | oh | 00:04 |
| lbt | command has cnaged | 00:04 |
| lbt | yeah | 00:04 |
| lbt | make sure you have newest SDK | 00:04 |
| lbt | rolling that is | 00:04 |
| rsequeir | ok | 00:04 |
| lbt | mic0.14 | 00:05 |
| rsequeir | just download it tonight | 00:05 |
| lbt | sudo mic create fs <ks> --arch=armv7hl --outdir=/srv/mer/targets --pkgmgr=zypp | 00:06 |
| rsequeir | will try right now | 00:06 |
| lbt | if you have @BLAH@ in your ks they are 'tokens' | 00:06 |
| lbt | you need to add | 00:06 |
| lbt | --tokenmap=RELEASE:something,BLAH:value | 00:08 |
| lbt | for any tokens | 00:08 |
| lbt | we use that so one ks can work on many similar arches etc | 00:08 |
| lbt | bbiab | 00:08 |
| rsequeir | not work.. I am using MIC2, said obsolete.. | 00:10 |
| rsequeir | well will try to succeed by 1/2h. If not: bed. | 00:10 |
| rsequeir | anyway would be great to have the prebuilt image to flash directly on non volatile memory ! | 00:11 |
| rsequeir | like linaro ones | 00:11 |
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| rsequeir | would like to make some memory performance tests | 00:13 |
| rsequeir | I work for the Micron company inj Italy | 00:14 |
| rsequeir | on eMMC | 00:14 |
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| SpeedEvil | performance tests on different SD? | 00:18 |
| rsequeir | we are designig eMMC, and have various projects on the pipeline | 00:19 |
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| SpeedEvil | interesting. | 00:21 |
| SpeedEvil | this channel tends to be rather dead at this time. | 00:22 |
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| SpeedEvil | it's an interesting and valuable topic | 00:22 |
| rsequeir | in fact it is late.. | 00:22 |
| SpeedEvil | lack of transparency and exposure of prefailure indications are real problems. | 00:22 |
| rsequeir | what's the best moment / channel according to you ? | 00:23 |
| SpeedEvil | see if you can catch ShadowJK , he's likely to have some ideas, having done relatively extensive testing. | 00:23 |
| SpeedEvil | perhaps 4 hours ago | 00:23 |
| rsequeir | :) ok | 00:23 |
| SpeedEvil | to 10 hours | 00:23 |
| SpeedEvil | in some ways a 'get out of my way, and just be a dumb NAND controller' mode would be nice :-) | 00:24 |
| SpeedEvil | rather than trying to do hacks on the CPU side to attempt to guess what the memory controller is doing, and to stop it doing it | 00:25 |
| SpeedEvil | swapping, for example | 00:25 |
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| SpeedEvil | #maemo, #edev, may also be fruitful. | 00:26 |
| rsequeir | ok at normal hours of the day | 00:27 |
| rsequeir | using images at http://img.merproject.org/images/mer-targets/ | 00:28 |
| rsequeir | clearly would not support the Pandaboard, right ? | 00:28 |
| rsequeir | Panda BSP not included ? | 00:28 |
| SpeedEvil | unsure | 00:28 |
| SpeedEvil | I haven't yet installed met | 00:28 |
| rsequeir | on a target HW chipset you mean ? | 00:29 |
| SpeedEvil | met | 00:29 |
| SpeedEvil | mer | 00:30 |
| SpeedEvil | stupid autocorrect | 00:30 |
| rsequeir | late.. | 00:30 |
| lbt | rsequeir: I will help with this - and show you how to automate it | 00:30 |
| lbt | but I'm in a hotel in brussels atm | 00:30 |
| lbt | :) | 00:31 |
| rsequeir | :) | 00:31 |
| rsequeir | lucky you | 00:31 |
| lbt | and next week is busy - in Helsinki | 00:31 |
| lbt | we're at FOSDEM \o/ | 00:31 |
| lbt | but I would really like to help you get it sorted out | 00:31 |
| rsequeir | interesting | 00:31 |
| rsequeir | from my side, I am based in Napoli | 00:32 |
| rsequeir | well Naples | 00:32 |
| lbt | yeah - those ks are on a system called 'img' which is an auto-image generator | 00:32 |
| lbt | cool - we have an Italian in Helsinki | 00:32 |
| lbt | stezz | 00:32 |
| lbt | he's not on #mer very much atm | 00:33 |
| SpeedEvil | open source the mmc code! :-) | 00:33 |
| lbt | hehe | 00:33 |
| SpeedEvil | (doubt it, would be fun tough) | 00:33 |
| lbt | rsequeir: so Mer doesn't support *any* HW | 00:33 |
| lbt | we ask all vendors to provide a Hardware Adaptation | 00:34 |
| lbt | we do have community ones for a number of boards | 00:34 |
| lbt | and 99% sure pandaboard is there | 00:34 |
| lbt | Sage: would know more | 00:34 |
| lbt | he's asleep | 00:34 |
| lbt | :) | 00:34 |
| rsequeir | smbdy dais on the mailing list that Panda was supported | 00:35 |
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| lbt | yes, I'm sure it is | 00:35 |
| rsequeir | as previous Meego history | 00:35 |
| lbt | yep - but I'm not sure how well maintained it is | 00:36 |
| lbt | I don't have a pandaboard so can't test it | 00:36 |
| lbt | but as long as there's no new kernel config needed we should be fine | 00:36 |
| lbt | it may be that the kernel would need a couple extra CONFG_* settings to work with new systemd or something | 00:37 |
| rsequeir | ok | 00:37 |
| rsequeir | but would you recommend another platform for testing Mer | 00:38 |
| rsequeir | ? | 00:38 |
| lbt | lbt_away: ^^^ note for self when I get home | 00:38 |
| lbt | rsequeir: hmm | 00:39 |
| lbt | RasPi? | 00:39 |
| lbt | Mer is designed to go on 'any' hardware | 00:39 |
| lbt | so if you want to use pandaboard, we make it work on there :) | 00:40 |
| rsequeir | that's the point I need to better understand, so used to BSP on Symbian | 00:40 |
| rsequeir | sounds good ! | 00:41 |
| lbt | anyhow... I really must do this talk ... 1:40am here | 00:41 |
| rsequeir | ok so when you have the Mer image working, it also a shell that you can access with smthg similar to adb ? | 00:42 |
| rsequeir | ok | 00:42 |
| lbt | yes, depending on HW we use serial or ssh | 00:42 |
| rsequeir | adb is not compatible I imagine ? | 00:43 |
| rsequeir | basta, no more questions ! will leave you sleep and connect another time to discuss this | 00:44 |
| lbt | no, it won't be | 00:44 |
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| lbt | and yes, please do :) | 00:44 |
| rsequeir | thanks for your help | 00:44 |
| lbt | np - glad you're exploring Mer :) | 00:44 |
| rsequeir | see you next time lbt / SpeedEvil | 00:45 |
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| rsequeir | longtime following, now need to put hands on it | 00:45 |
| rsequeir | great project | 00:45 |
| rsequeir | ciao ! | 00:46 |
| lbt | o/ | 00:46 |
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| situ | Morning | 05:12 |
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| aiff | morning | 07:48 |
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| dm8tbr | *yawn* another day at FOSDEM | 08:58 |
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| Stskeeps | indeed | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | i'm so glad i'm still alive, was really thinking i had to go to a doctor yesterday :P | 09:13 |
| dm8tbr | ouch | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | but feeling much better today | 09:14 |
| dm8tbr | good to hear | 09:15 |
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| aiff | word hard？ | 09:21 |
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| sledges | morninging :) | 10:18 |
| iekku | good ningning | 10:18 |
| * sledges listening to kde pres :) | 10:20 | |
| sledges | lbt was supporting here lasy night | 10:22 |
| sledges | from an afterpub? | 10:23 |
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| sledges | where did you land after a meal? :) | 10:23 |
| * Stskeeps is watching firefox os talk | 10:24 | |
| Stskeeps | lesson number one: never rely on online content in your presentation | 10:24 |
| sledges | online html5 content :)) | 10:25 |
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| * lbt wonders if network-manager team may be more receptive than connman | 10:26 | |
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| Stskeeps | .. | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:27 |
| lbt | just thinking about the issues with usb networking | 10:27 |
| lbt | connman attitude seemed to be pretty inflexible ... "no" | 10:28 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I haven't seen such a badly prepped talk in a long while... It's painful to watch! | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | yes, especially since it seems like the SW behind isn't half bad | 10:29 |
| dm8tbr | *double* *face* *palm* | 10:29 |
| dm8tbr | yes, that makes it so painful | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | well, i'm still into firefox os app compatibility as the idea is good | 10:30 |
| * dm8tbr supports that | 10:30 | |
| * dm8tbr will be happy to help test that | 10:30 | |
| Stskeeps | well, romaxa's stuff of b2g on raspberry pi seems like a good basis | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | ie, running in 'app' mode | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | ran on top of debian | 10:31 |
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| Sage | that firefox talk is recorded if I'm not mistaken so time to watch it based on that feedback ;) | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | skip the first 15 mins | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:32 |
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| dm8tbr | and get the slides URL | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | i'm thinking that a burger would be a good idea right now.. hmm | 10:32 |
| * dm8tbr isn't ready for lunch yet. just had a banana | 10:33 | |
| * Sage is going to eat after 13:00 or so | 10:33 | |
| jonwil | I need to go cook food too :) | 10:33 |
| lbt | chilli burgers are good | 10:35 |
| lbt | today is dog+waffle day :D | 10:35 |
| berndhs | you eat dog today? In korea ? | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | also, for the love of god, learn how to disable screen blanking when you do the 'oh my slides are on the phone itself' | 10:37 |
| lbt | berndhs: I told you ... Samsung ;) | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | right, food time | 10:39 |
| dm8tbr | the pain the suffering | 10:39 |
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| berndhs | i'm in California now, we eat cow, pig, fish cooked and raw. Vegans say we should eat life that can't even run away. | 10:43 |
| sledges | but food eats salad.. | 10:44 |
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| berndhs | bacteria get the last word in eating | 10:59 |
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| sledges | :) | 11:05 |
| RzR | hi sledges | 11:10 |
| RzR | i am close to the door | 11:10 |
| RzR | i see thp and an other french meegoon chouchoune | 11:11 |
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| dm8tbr | mer meetup after the talk? ;) | 11:12 |
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| chouchoune | hi RzR ;) | 11:14 |
| sledges | +1 mer meetm | 11:15 |
| sledges | good stuff RzR :) | 11:16 |
| sledges | im in midfdle next to zchydem | 11:16 |
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| gry | As I understand it, mer is just a core, not a complete system, is this understanding correct? | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | combine it with a hardware adaptation and it boots, combine it with a UI and you have first step towards a product :) | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | it's a nice way to have multiple UI or for that matter device hw adaptation projects share a common core, instead of doing it all on their own | 11:46 |
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| Stskeeps | so you can focus on what makes your device hw adaptation, or UI, great | 11:47 |
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| gry | is there something well-cooked for n950 end user? I can see Nemo, Sailfish, and Cordia, and would be ok with helping out with some development for those, but I don't quite see how they are different (other than that one of them has a maemo UX while the other two don't) | 12:09 |
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| Uninstall | sledges: no progress with the i.MX53 board :/ | 13:07 |
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| Stskeeps | afternoon | 14:16 |
| kysse | ^. | 14:19 |
| kysse | Rock around the clock | 14:20 |
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| lbt_ | ooh, wifi not overloaded | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | woo :P | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | lbt_: i'll be missing your talk, decided it's more important i get well :P | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | (so i'm at hotel) | 14:26 |
| RzR | in front of quim gil wikipedia presenation | 14:27 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Are there any recordings of talks? | 14:27 |
| RzR | yes most of them | 14:28 |
| RzR | phoronix guy des some too | 14:28 |
| Morpog_Mobile | Any clou where to find? | 14:28 |
| RzR | fosdem.org in a couple of weeks | 14:29 |
| lbt_ | Stskeeps: np - it's streamed - you still get to see me :D | 14:30 |
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| RzR | quim is promotting ios and android now ... how ironic | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | wikipedia can't pick sides, the information it provides is important to get to everyone | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | no matter if you're on a locked down featurephone or a open tizen device | 14:32 |
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| RzR | i would expect more crossplatform developments ... but its more easy to say than to do | 14:34 |
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| vgrade | cxl000: \o | 15:35 |
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| sledges | . | 16:34 |
| sledges | . | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | : | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | P | 16:35 |
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| sledges | progress, getting back home..... :) Uncompressing Linux... | 16:44 |
| sledges | finally data mobile | 16:45 |
| sledges | Uninstall, where did you stop? | 16:45 |
| sledges | gry, Sailfish ux is C00L, that's the difference :) | 16:49 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: I'm updating Pi eglfs plugin and was wondering where this came from https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=hackeglfs.patch&package=qtplatformplugin-rpi&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3ARaspberryPi&rev=502929cd70addd36ffe4df697c1fe453 | 16:55 |
| vgrade | probably don't need it the Pi plugin | 16:57 |
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| Stskeeps | probably not, but it's useful anyway, i think | 16:58 |
| Stskeeps | it's basically cos of android drivers | 16:58 |
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| Uninstall | sledges: I dind't find any board specific repo | 17:16 |
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| sledges | Uninstall, board specific = hardware adaptation -> you're constructing it nkw without knowing ;) | 17:18 |
| sledges | s/nkw/(the repo) | 17:19 |
| Uninstall | anyway to be honest I've not even been able to boot the board :/ | 17:19 |
| Fluttershy0 | Good Evening | 17:22 |
| Fluttershy0 | is anyone aware how to force some static IP with networkmanager? | 17:22 |
| Fluttershy0 | I did it with connman but the plasmaactive image I try atm uses networkmanager | 17:22 |
| Fluttershy0 | and I have no gui yet | 17:22 |
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| kulve | Fluttershy0: for plasma active, #active could be another channel to ask in | 17:24 |
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| Fluttershy0 | yes, though ist just about how to make NM do a static IP when there is indeed no PA gui | 17:25 |
| sledges | happened to me many times :) you can download prebuilt sd card imagesskimages from fsl, too | 17:26 |
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| sledges | Fluttershy0, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=219788 | 17:36 |
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| Fluttershy0 | looks like ifcfg-wlan0 is valid | 17:40 |
| Fluttershy0 | I didnt think the stuff in /etc/sysconfig/network would be used when NM is around | 17:40 |
| Fluttershy0 | thx sledges | 17:41 |
| Uninstall | sledges: fsl = ? | 17:41 |
| sledges | freescale | 17:42 |
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| Uninstall | I have to take more time on that website | 17:43 |
| Uninstall | I've found an ubuntu image | 17:43 |
| Uninstall | that is an .exe file | 17:43 |
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| Uninstall | inside a corrupt zip archive... :/ | 17:43 |
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| Stskeeps | hey nsuffys | 17:45 |
| sledges | hope you'll sort it out Fluttershy0 | 17:45 |
| Fluttershy0 | I am not sure I will though | 17:45 |
| Fluttershy0 | might jsut killall NetworkManager and use ifconfig commands | 17:45 |
| Fluttershy0 | until I get gui working xD | 17:46 |
| nsuffys | Hey Stskeeps :) | 17:46 |
| sledges | Uninstall, it's tricky, go for Linux iMX board support section | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | nsuffys: how's it going? | 17:47 |
| sledges | Fluttershy0, was to suggest that too ;) | 17:47 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: updated Pi eglfs plugin for 5.0.0 | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 17:48 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: looking at qt-wayland-rpi now | 17:49 |
| nsuffys | Stskeeps : Very well and you ? (and very impatient) | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i added a new trick to qt-wayland, should help a bit | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | nsuffys: sick at fosdem, but otherwise good | 17:49 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: what do I need to know. I see qt-wayland has been updated in last days | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: that i use the precheckin.sh like trick | 17:51 |
| vgrade | ah ok, nogl, composite etc. So add a rpi line | 17:52 |
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| nsuffys | Stskeeps, take care of yourself. I've follow fosdem on Twitter because I could not go. But I go to MWC :) | 17:53 |
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| nsuffys | I can finally meet the Sailors :) | 17:55 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 17:56 |
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| sledges | they're Jolly good sailors :)) | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | what, how much did the guys get to drink yesterday ;p | 17:59 |
| sledges | no rum though :) | 17:59 |
| alterego | I definitely had too much :P | 18:00 |
| sledges | as in free rum | 18:00 |
| sledges | alterego, you were there too? :)) well, remote late hello then | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | no, alterego just drinks a lot | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:01 |
| sledges | dm8tbr brought his friends | 18:02 |
| alterego | I did last night -_- | 18:02 |
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| sledges | so this morning you looked like &) | 18:03 |
| alterego | I wasn't even awake this morning :P | 18:04 |
| sledges | nsuffys, your Seadot os picked some traction recently on here | 18:10 |
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| nsuffys | sledges, I discovered seadot by chance. The project looks great ! Since Nemomobile, I'm Mer addict | 18:12 |
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| nsuffys | But i failed to compil myself the WeTab IMG :/ | 18:13 |
| sledges | same here :) | 18:13 |
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| sledges | vgrade did OBS repo for seadot. home:vgrade:test | 18:14 |
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| sledges | as they are lacking hosting | 18:14 |
| nsuffys | you have direct link ? | 18:16 |
| sledges | nsuffys, its generic packages, notbspec for wetab | 18:17 |
| nsuffys | ok | 18:17 |
| nsuffys | Sorry for my English.. ^^ | 18:18 |
| sledges | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Avgrade%3Atest | 18:19 |
| sledges | dw, i got you clear | 18:19 |
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| nsuffys | Nice +480 view for my vid of Seadot... If it can help the project.. :) | 18:31 |
| Uninstall | sledges: ok, I've found out what was the issue: my serial port.... | 18:32 |
| sledges | thays why i thought you syarted it :) | 18:32 |
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| sledges | Uninstall, yes you are on wonderful journey of constant discovery ;) | 18:32 |
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| nsuffys | I never noticed that Mer have official account on Twitter ! @MerProject :D | 18:55 |
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| sledges | who owns @NemoMobile btw? I'll supply them with new logo and text | 19:05 |
| CosmoHill | hi sledges | 19:06 |
| shmerl | I proposed them to open a Diaspora user too. | 19:07 |
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| sledges | sure, it will get going. Sailfish confused and stopped things a bit for Nemo, but now I think it's still awesome prototyping (or code ux by example) mobile os, woth 100% freedom | 19:13 |
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| sledges | just that our little team (including qwazix and sivang) discovered nemo twitter was takem by someone way earloer :) | 19:14 |
| shmerl | If things work out well (with opening up stuff) Sailfish and Nemo can merge at some point. | 19:14 |
| shmerl | I mean if Jolla decides to open things completely. | 19:15 |
| sledges | i was to say sailfish might not be 100% free as ib freedom | 19:15 |
| shmerl | That's up to Jolla to decide. But if they'll open it up - it only makes sense to merge them. | 19:15 |
| sledges | yup, so thats why nemo thPR came to a stand-by | 19:16 |
| shmerl | We'll have to wait until things will be clarified anyway, right now not enough info is known. | 19:16 |
| sledges | apR | 19:16 |
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| shmerl | I'm trying to upgrade the SDK, but it says: The following package updates will NOT be installed: mer-kickstarter osc pacrunner pacrunner-python python python-cheetah python-iniparse python-libs python-lxml python-urlgrabber python-yaml rpm-python spectacle yum yum-metadata-parser | 19:25 |
| shmerl | It it expected? There is some dependency on python 2.7 which can't be normally resolved | 19:26 |
| sledges | well, nemo id use for lightweight solutions still | 19:26 |
| sledges | ux | 19:26 |
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| shmerl | sledges: It can have it uses, the question is of resources, i.e. if you have people to maintain them all effectively. | 19:27 |
| shmerl | I.e. if division produces the lack of resources - you should ask yourself if there any point in division in the first place. | 19:28 |
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| sledges | shmerl, i see a point in nemo (or lipstick+subset of nemo) being used in adhoc/specified embedded solutions | 20:26 |
| sledges | made by the company I work for | 20:26 |
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| sledges | so resouces/traction/customers fuelling it are present | 20:26 |
| shmerl | Isn't Sailfish using mostly the same components? | 20:27 |
| shmerl | So it's really the question of modularization. | 20:27 |
| shmerl | And unifying the projects. | 20:27 |
| sledges | sailfish ux is a full fledged mobile environment, nemo ux is towards something more prototypeable | 20:28 |
| shmerl | Well, if there is a benefit in making a lightweight ux - why not. | 20:29 |
| shmerl | What I worry about is a diverging of resources which can happen despite possible intentions. | 20:29 |
| shmerl | Just look at Gnome and KDE. | 20:29 |
| sledges | it's a manifestation to what a primitive ui can look like, with attraction factor | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | nemo/lipstick helps show that you can do homescreens and ui's really easy | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | and when sailfish silica are out, you can see how you can do components really nicely too | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:30 |
| sledges | gnome and kde do everything (for desktop) . just like sailfish does for mobile. if you have a parking meter prpject in acompany , it is controllable | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | i'd like to see people do something else than mobile or tablet for once | 20:31 |
| shmerl | seldges: There are also razor qt and xfce for example. I guess they match closer to what you mean. | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | ie, wearable glasses prototypes, etc | 20:31 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: Right. | 20:32 |
| sledges | what i mean requires an embedded os (mer core suitez, as provides bibd points for peripherals an embedded board may include) | 20:32 |
| sledges | just expand lipstick icons to 3x3 on screen, and you get primitive IVI UX :)) | 20:33 |
| sledges | we had projects where customer asked for an ivi mockup for their POCs | 20:34 |
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| sledges | and the great thing is, mer is scalable | 20:35 |
| sledges | so not limited | 20:35 |
| sledges | surely i could go for buildroot and qt on fbdev, | 20:35 |
| sledges | but these days customers want all sing and dance | 20:35 |
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| * Stskeeps kicks off mer x86_64 build | 20:43 | |
| CosmoHill | :o | 20:50 |
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| Uninstall | Failed to mount /dev: No such device :/ | 22:04 |
| sledges | Uninstall, need to recompile kernel with CONFIG_DEVTMPFS | 22:05 |
| sledges | if you are already running mer rootfs under imx i gather ;) | 22:05 |
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| iekku | sledges, home? | 22:06 |
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| Uninstall | sledges: yes, I'm trying to run it ,) | 22:07 |
| sledges | https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check | 22:07 |
| Uninstall | nice, thanks | 22:10 |
| sledges | do you have ltib installed Uninstall (hmmm sounds funny :)) | 22:10 |
| Uninstall | :) | 22:10 |
| Uninstall | loool | 22:10 |
| Uninstall | no, I don't | 22:10 |
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| sledges | thy cannot escape ltib's wrath mortal ;) | 22:11 |
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| Uninstall | sledges: http://ltib.org/home-intro <-- is this the right place to get it? it doesn't look maintained | 22:16 |
| Uninstall | (they still use CVS) | 22:16 |
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| sledges | and they use Comic sans | 22:29 |
| sledges | stay away :D | 22:29 |
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| sledges | the story is, freescale gives you their maintained ltib with latest imx53 packages to build with it | 22:30 |
| rcg | well, cern also uses comic sans ;P | 22:30 |
| rcg | btw just made it back.. apparently connecting a locomotive to a train is a highly technical procedure that can even result in 30+ minutes delay | 22:32 |
| Uninstall | sledges: ok | 22:32 |
| rcg | at least at deutsche bahn, i.e. | 22:32 |
| Uninstall | wget: command not found o.O | 22:32 |
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| * Uninstall wonders how to install wget inside mer platform sdk chroot | 22:33 | |
| sledges | wget is GPL3 or smthng | 22:33 |
| sledges | curl is the way to go :) | 22:33 |
| sledges | welcome to the realm of purified GPLs ;) | 22:33 |
| Uninstall | ltib needs wget... | 22:34 |
| Uninstall | sledges: you mean that mer doesn't have any GPLv3 software? | 22:34 |
| sledges | ltib you'll use on your host PC | 22:35 |
| sledges | mer goes for freedom licences (/me not a licencing guru, but wget not in mer due to those aspects) | 22:37 |
| rcg | btw sledges you also made it back well? | 22:37 |
| sledges | (though `man wget` in my host says GPL >=v1.2 , something is fishy around) | 22:37 |
| sledges | Uninstall, download ltib from here: http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=LEIMX&fpsp=1&tab=Design_Tools_Tab | 22:37 |
| sledges | hey rcg ! yup, made back fine :) | 22:37 |
| Uninstall | emerge says that wget is GPLv3 | 22:37 |
| sledges | ok, so my memory parity is still sane :)) getting a hang of those licencing licences.. :)) | 22:38 |
| rcg | sledges, great :) | 22:38 |
| sledges | once I used Deutsche Bahn, the conductor lady was standing in a doorway screaming at us "bitte zurueck bleibn!" when we were 30seconds late to catch the train to prague :) | 22:39 |
| sledges | Uninstall, install L2.6.35_11_09_ER_SOURCE :) | 22:40 |
| Uninstall | nice, thanks for all the help ;) | 22:40 |
| sledges | and patch it later with L2.6.35_MX53_1109_PATCH_IMAGE | 22:41 |
| sledges | I assume you have i.MX53-QSB | 22:41 |
| Uninstall | yes | 22:41 |
| cxl000 | vgrade o/ | 22:41 |
| sledges | yup, then those two is the way to go | 22:41 |
| sledges | the PATCH_IMAGE has a nice README~PDF how to patch installed ltib | 22:42 |
| rcg | sledges, yay. not nice. but that's how they are.. | 22:42 |
| sledges | install L2.6.35_11_09_ER_SOURCE first, hope your ubuntu is not too new, otherwise some errors may encounter during inst, but nothing what you couldn't google out ;) | 22:42 |
| * Uninstall is running gentoo on the workstation, ubuntu on the laptop | 22:43 | |
| sledges | it will compile host packages (like cross- toolchains) and place them under /opt/freescale, then will install the rest of ltib where you'll specify | 22:43 |
| Uninstall | kubuntu I mean ;) | 22:43 |
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| sledges | should be all doable, it's linux after all, so in worst case you'll have to do some package-naming-mind-matching ;) | 22:44 |
| sledges | once ltib is in, you can configure it for a imx53-loco (it a codename for QSB) | 22:45 |
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| sledges | and afterwards configure its kernel, and compile it | 22:45 |
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| sledges | if you are around tomorrow, I will be able to give you more info how to fiddle kernel .config for mer | 22:46 |
| sledges | since I have it on my worktop | 22:46 |
| Uninstall | ok :) | 22:46 |
| Uninstall | thank you a lot | 22:46 |
| Uninstall | :) | 22:46 |
| sledges | good stuff, thanks for reviving this :) | 22:46 |
| Uninstall | I will try to work on it tonight, I hope to get it working anyway | 22:46 |
| Uninstall | thank you for your help | 22:47 |
| Uninstall | :) | 22:47 |
| sledges | if you are ambitious enough, you might bring it's (at least the main) adaptation to a mer repo | 22:47 |
| Uninstall | sledges: it would be ok for me :) | 22:47 |
| sledges | so other won't have to go through this again what we are going through :) | 22:47 |
| Uninstall | sure | 22:48 |
| Uninstall | sledges: how is opengl acceleration on that hardware? | 22:48 |
| sledges | I should've done that year ago, but thought it won't gain interest/laziness/lack-of-competence-in-mer-repoing etc :) | 22:48 |
| sledges | well it's all softfp | 22:48 |
| sledges | I think I got ~45 FS | 22:49 |
| sledges | ą | 22:49 |
| sledges | FPS | 22:49 |
| sledges | with glestest | 22:49 |
| sledges | you saw the videos, right? | 22:49 |
| sledges | they are accelerated | 22:49 |
| Uninstall | yes, the one on youtube | 22:49 |
| sledges | it's not a powerful beast, but was carrying on even with KDE PA in a funny but moveable way :) | 22:49 |
| Uninstall | I would like to get Qt5 running on it | 22:50 |
| sledges | and wayland? ;) | 22:50 |
| Uninstall | that would be cool | 22:50 |
| Uninstall | but Qt5 on top of whatever is enough ;) | 22:50 |
| sledges | any project you are pursuing? ;) | 22:50 |
| Uninstall | sledges: just a demo for work | 22:51 |
| sledges | lol, /me is in the same shoes with pandaboard now :) great! | 22:51 |
| Uninstall | our company decided to use mer for embedded stuff | 22:51 |
| sledges | \o/ | 22:51 |
| iekku | Uninstall, wow! that's cool! | 22:51 |
| sledges | I instead trying to persuade my company to do it, hope will win soon :) | 22:51 |
| sledges | we'll support you as much as possible | 22:52 |
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| sledges | cause that's a penetrating PR :) | 22:52 |
| Uninstall | iekku: well, it was a rather easy choice :) Our company has been founded by some KDE/Plasma developers :) | 22:52 |
| sledges | niice | 22:52 |
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| iekku | Uninstall, explains a lot :) | 22:53 |
| Uninstall | :) | 22:54 |
| iekku | but anyway, it's cool | 22:54 |
| Uninstall | next step will be to set up a Jenkins machine with mer sdk :D | 22:54 |
| rcg | Uninstall, do you happen to work with mdfe? | 22:56 |
| CosmoHill | hi iekku and rcg | 22:56 |
| rcg | hey CosmoHill | 22:56 |
| iekku | hi CosmoHill | 22:57 |
| sledges | rcg, yup, but it was rather an entertaining night in Munich after we missed that train, so everything happens for a reason :)) | 22:57 |
| sledges | hi Cosmo :) | 22:57 |
| rcg | sledges, hehe great :D | 22:57 |
| Uninstall | rcg: mdfe? | 22:57 |
| rcg | Uninstall, nevermind.. i just heard of the jenkins+mer-stuff from him | 22:58 |
| Uninstall | ok | 22:58 |
| rcg | didn't know this is a rather usual setup | 22:58 |
| Uninstall | well, I'll ask him about it :D | 22:59 |
| rcg | before that i always considered jenkins pretty java-eco-system specific | 22:59 |
| rcg | but that's likely me being narrow minded in that case | 22:59 |
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| * rcg keeps learning new cool things all the time :) | 23:00 | |
| * CosmoHill should | 23:02 | |
| Uninstall | rcg: it works well with everything | 23:02 |
| Uninstall | it just need some work ;) | 23:02 |
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| rcg | right, ic :) | 23:02 |
| sledges | ok, now truly /me zZzZ :) ciao | 23:03 |
| Uninstall | night | 23:04 |
| rcg | gn8 | 23:05 |
| rcg | btw iekku do you go by plane or train? | 23:06 |
| CosmoHill | magic carpet? | 23:07 |
| iekku | rcg, plain. brussels-amsterdam, amsterdam-helsinki | 23:07 |
| iekku | CosmoHill, i prefer hoover | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | my friend says we can go london to brussels return for £66 | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | it better be return | 23:07 |
| rcg | CosmoHill, was a nice game but i'd doubt this will be any good given the weather in brussels atm | 23:08 |
| rcg | iekku, yay, brussels-amsterdam is a pretty short flight | 23:09 |
| iekku | :nod: | 23:09 |
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| rcg | but i should get off to get some sleep.. didn't sleep well in the hotel and was very tired the whole day | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | maybe if there were less hookers | 23:10 |
| CosmoHill | ;) | 23:11 |
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| rcg | well, am even too tired to give a reasonable funny response to that comment ;P | 23:11 |
| CosmoHill | how about Ms Buttercup, can she come up with one? | 23:12 |
| rcg | see ya'll.. was very nice to see you irl :) | 23:12 |
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| CosmoHill | hi lbt | 23:44 |
| CosmoHill | I hope your compile boxes are faster than mine | 23:44 |
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