Monday, 2013-02-04

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Uninstall<43>systemd-journald[49]: Failed to accept stdout connection: Function not implemented00:51
shmerlI think Mer should add a contrib repo with most common GPLv3 stuff like wget.00:52
shmerlSo those vendors who don't care about GPLv2 only restriction can use it normally.00:53
shmerl(as well as users of course)00:53
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jonwilWhat version of GCC is Mer using?01:08
shmerlSee: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/01:08
shmerl4.6.401:09
jonwilok, so whats this about a GPLv3 issue then? Mer is already using GPL3 versions of gcc, glibc etc etc (as far as I can see anyway)01:14
shmerlThose are tools which aren't going to appear on end user devices unless explicitly installed.01:15
shmerlGPLv3 has an anti tivoization clause.01:16
shmerlSome vendors are assumed to be allergic to it.01:16
shmerl(I hope not all)01:16
jonwilglibc would most definatly appear on end-user devices01:16
jonwilThat said, I may be mistaken and the glibc in the mer repo is in fact GPL2 and not GPL301:17
shmerlglbic is LGPL 2.1 I think.01:18
shmerlYou can check01:18
shmerlThe whole issue is around DRM and signing stuff.01:20
shmerlGPLv3 is strict that user should be able to make modification even to signed systems.01:20
shmerlGPLv2 is more lax here.01:20
shmerlSo it's believed that vendors avoid GPLv3 because of this. And Mer tries to provide certain central packages as GPLv201:21
shmerlBut it doesn't preclude adding anything as GPLv3 on top as an optional thing that vendors won't be forced to use.01:22
shmerlI agree that the whole thing is silly - but it seems to be a common issue.01:22
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koala_morphis, can I talk with you?01:33
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Bostikmorning04:10
Bostikoff to HEL...04:10
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situMorning05:23
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grygood morning05:38
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koala_Hi morphis08:40
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auri__lbt: ping09:22
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rcgdm8tbr, http://ruedigergad.com/2013/02/04/plasma-active-for-archos-g9-armv7hl/09:43
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rcgjfyi09:43
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rcgdm8tbr, i might come back to you wrt the contact for the archos g9 kernel stuff but right now i am so loaded with other work that i cannot look into this09:48
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lbtmorning09:55
lbtauri__: pong09:55
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auri__lbt: how was FOSDEM?10:00
dm8tbrrcg: roger10:01
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lbtauri__: zzzz10:05
lbtreally good - as usual10:05
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auri__great :)10:07
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lbtmy talk went well I think - not 100% sure what the message was other than "All about Mer"10:09
lbtso now Jolla have said their version of the SDK will be out in a few weeks - we need to work hard on the Mer part of that too10:11
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rcglbt, i hope you made back well10:15
rcglbt, btw do you have a link to your presentation on sunday?10:15
rcgcolleague is curious about this too ;)10:15
rcg*made it10:15
yuntalbt: martyone needs access to build.pub.meego.com, can you push it forward?10:17
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yuntaX-Fade: ^10:37
lbtyunta: just back, just done it X-Fade too10:37
yuntathx10:38
lbtrcg: yeah - have a pdf10:38
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sledgesgoodie morning10:42
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lbtFYI : my slides from FOSDEM: http://www.merproject.org/~lbt/FOSDEM2013/10:57
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gryNemo is put as a subproject of mer on slide 19?11:01
kontioVDVsx: fyi: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67311:01
MerbotMer bug 673 in .Other "8 libaccounts-qt unit tests fail" [Normal,New]11:01
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sledgesthanks for slides lbt11:06
Uninstallhey sledges11:06
rcglbt, cool, thanks :)11:06
Uninstall:)11:06
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Uninstallgood morning11:06
rcg"morning" sledges11:06
rcg;)11:06
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sledgesapparently UK is the 'earliest' country in Europe :))11:25
sledgeswell, and portugal %)11:25
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sledgesUninstall, how's it going? :)13:27
chouchounelbt: I confirm as an "external audience" : nice talk, and yes it was a bit like "All about Mer" ;)13:27
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sledgesupdating henrik_ 's Mer Platform SDK VM: zypper dup says: Problem: nothing provides libzypp.so.1200 needed by python-zypp-0.5.9.1-1.3.1.8.i48617:29
sledgessafe to go? i.e. what's the status of sdk libzypp problem17:30
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CosmoHillsledges: are you with virgin media?17:34
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Uninstallhello *17:42
UninstallI've have a couple of question:17:42
Uninstallhow can I add openssh-sever to my kickstart file17:43
Uninstall?17:43
UninstallI mean I would like to install it and to enable it as boot service17:43
UninstallI would also love to understand how to set to run something inside Xorg at the end of boot process17:44
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UninstallI would like to understand where I should add my shell process ;)17:44
sledgesPlatform SDK installs openssh-server: kickstart looks like it sets itself up automagically17:46
sledgeshttps://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/6.1.0/0.20120920.1/17:46
sledgesPS: Platform chroot SDK is not the best example17:47
sledgesbest to look at VM SDK:17:47
sledgeshttp://img.merproject.org/images/web/henrik/6-20121115-132446/17:47
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Uninstalluhm17:48
sledgesif it won't start at boot, you can always examine that VM's systemd folders, what maybe other targets trigger17:48
sledgeseverything what starts in Xorg is in /usr/lib/systemd/user/nemo-mobile-target.wants and their dependencies17:49
sledgesyou should examine those file, to see how to create your own (lines starting with After,Requires and Exec are of your interest)17:50
Uninstallnice17:50
sledgesI know :}17:51
Uninstallsledges: ok, so I must understand why openssh-server doesn't autostart by itself17:51
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sledgesbest is to have Nemo and SDK rootfss extracted and examine them. Nemo starts lipstick, so grepping could give you all boot sequence image (or `systemctl dot` command ;)17:52
sledgesdoesn't it ?17:53
sledgesI'd believe it does.17:53
Uninstallok, I will try it17:53
sledgesI just tried to tie loose ends just in case ;)17:53
sledgesyou can always check it's RPM contents (I do this all the time), download it from OBS17:53
sledgesand look inside, probably ./lib/systemd/system/openssh* will be lurking there ;)17:54
Uninstallok17:54
UninstallI've got also some problems with systemd-journald...17:55
sledgesah I saw your post. so journalctl doesn't work ?17:55
Uninstall<43>systemd-journald[49]: Failed to accept stdout connection: Function not implemented17:55
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Stskeepsmer-kernel-checker time?17:55
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sledgesit was yesterday :) but yeah, maybe you missed smthng17:56
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Uninstallhow can I add getty and login at boot? It would be nice too17:57
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sledgesUninstall, make a link to serial-getty@.service (find where it is) as /lib/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/serial-getty@ttymxc0.service18:00
sledgesthen you'll get a prompt on serial18:00
Uninstallcool18:00
sledgesI think same approach is for VTs18:00
sledges~/similar :)18:00
Uninstallnice, it will help me a lot to understand what is not working on that system18:00
sledgesI never knew this systemd symbolic link naming trick until someone ( Stskeeps ;P ) told me on here :)18:01
sledgesyup, you #mer, you learn :))18:01
sledges*you MERn, you learn18:02
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* sledges off home18:03
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Uninstallnext question will be: how do I apply updates to freescale ltib? I've been only able to build everything using the version provided on the website18:05
Uninstallbut I didn't apply any update on top of it18:05
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sledgesshould be a PATCH-README.pdf or something19:13
sledgesUninstall, ^19:15
sledgesinside the archive19:15
UninstallI didn't find it19:15
UninstallI've just found uImage uboot-whatever etc...19:16
Uninstallit doesn't seem a patch19:16
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auri__lbt_away: ping20:54
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