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| shmerl | I think Mer should add a contrib repo with most common GPLv3 stuff like wget. | 00:52 |
| shmerl | So those vendors who don't care about GPLv2 only restriction can use it normally. | 00:53 |
| shmerl | (as well as users of course) | 00:53 |
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| jonwil | What version of GCC is Mer using? | 01:08 |
| shmerl | See: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/ | 01:08 |
| shmerl | 4.6.4 | 01:09 |
| jonwil | ok, so whats this about a GPLv3 issue then? Mer is already using GPL3 versions of gcc, glibc etc etc (as far as I can see anyway) | 01:14 |
| shmerl | Those are tools which aren't going to appear on end user devices unless explicitly installed. | 01:15 |
| shmerl | GPLv3 has an anti tivoization clause. | 01:16 |
| shmerl | Some vendors are assumed to be allergic to it. | 01:16 |
| shmerl | (I hope not all) | 01:16 |
| jonwil | glibc would most definatly appear on end-user devices | 01:16 |
| jonwil | That said, I may be mistaken and the glibc in the mer repo is in fact GPL2 and not GPL3 | 01:17 |
| shmerl | glbic is LGPL 2.1 I think. | 01:18 |
| shmerl | You can check | 01:18 |
| shmerl | The whole issue is around DRM and signing stuff. | 01:20 |
| shmerl | GPLv3 is strict that user should be able to make modification even to signed systems. | 01:20 |
| shmerl | GPLv2 is more lax here. | 01:20 |
| shmerl | So it's believed that vendors avoid GPLv3 because of this. And Mer tries to provide certain central packages as GPLv2 | 01:21 |
| shmerl | But it doesn't preclude adding anything as GPLv3 on top as an optional thing that vendors won't be forced to use. | 01:22 |
| shmerl | I agree that the whole thing is silly - but it seems to be a common issue. | 01:22 |
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| koala_ | morphis, can I talk with you? | 01:33 |
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| Bostik | morning | 04:10 |
| Bostik | off to HEL... | 04:10 |
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| situ | Morning | 05:23 |
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| gry | good morning | 05:38 |
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| koala_ | Hi morphis | 08:40 |
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| auri__ | lbt: ping | 09:22 |
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| rcg | dm8tbr, http://ruedigergad.com/2013/02/04/plasma-active-for-archos-g9-armv7hl/ | 09:43 |
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| rcg | jfyi | 09:43 |
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| rcg | dm8tbr, i might come back to you wrt the contact for the archos g9 kernel stuff but right now i am so loaded with other work that i cannot look into this | 09:48 |
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| lbt | morning | 09:55 |
| lbt | auri__: pong | 09:55 |
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| auri__ | lbt: how was FOSDEM? | 10:00 |
| dm8tbr | rcg: roger | 10:01 |
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| lbt | auri__: zzzz | 10:05 |
| lbt | really good - as usual | 10:05 |
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| auri__ | great :) | 10:07 |
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| lbt | my talk went well I think - not 100% sure what the message was other than "All about Mer" | 10:09 |
| lbt | so now Jolla have said their version of the SDK will be out in a few weeks - we need to work hard on the Mer part of that too | 10:11 |
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| rcg | lbt, i hope you made back well | 10:15 |
| rcg | lbt, btw do you have a link to your presentation on sunday? | 10:15 |
| rcg | colleague is curious about this too ;) | 10:15 |
| rcg | *made it | 10:15 |
| yunta | lbt: martyone needs access to build.pub.meego.com, can you push it forward? | 10:17 |
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| yunta | X-Fade: ^ | 10:37 |
| lbt | yunta: just back, just done it X-Fade too | 10:37 |
| yunta | thx | 10:38 |
| lbt | rcg: yeah - have a pdf | 10:38 |
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| sledges | goodie morning | 10:42 |
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| lbt | FYI : my slides from FOSDEM: http://www.merproject.org/~lbt/FOSDEM2013/ | 10:57 |
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| gry | Nemo is put as a subproject of mer on slide 19? | 11:01 |
| kontio | VDVsx: fyi: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673 | 11:01 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 673 in .Other "8 libaccounts-qt unit tests fail" [Normal,New] | 11:01 |
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| sledges | thanks for slides lbt | 11:06 |
| Uninstall | hey sledges | 11:06 |
| rcg | lbt, cool, thanks :) | 11:06 |
| Uninstall | :) | 11:06 |
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| Uninstall | good morning | 11:06 |
| rcg | "morning" sledges | 11:06 |
| rcg | ;) | 11:06 |
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| sledges | apparently UK is the 'earliest' country in Europe :)) | 11:25 |
| sledges | well, and portugal %) | 11:25 |
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| sledges | Uninstall, how's it going? :) | 13:27 |
| chouchoune | lbt: I confirm as an "external audience" : nice talk, and yes it was a bit like "All about Mer" ;) | 13:27 |
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| sledges | updating henrik_ 's Mer Platform SDK VM: zypper dup says: Problem: nothing provides libzypp.so.1200 needed by python-zypp-0.5.9.1-1.3.1.8.i486 | 17:29 |
| sledges | safe to go? i.e. what's the status of sdk libzypp problem | 17:30 |
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| CosmoHill | sledges: are you with virgin media? | 17:34 |
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| Uninstall | hello * | 17:42 |
| Uninstall | I've have a couple of question: | 17:42 |
| Uninstall | how can I add openssh-sever to my kickstart file | 17:43 |
| Uninstall | ? | 17:43 |
| Uninstall | I mean I would like to install it and to enable it as boot service | 17:43 |
| Uninstall | I would also love to understand how to set to run something inside Xorg at the end of boot process | 17:44 |
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| Uninstall | I would like to understand where I should add my shell process ;) | 17:44 |
| sledges | Platform SDK installs openssh-server: kickstart looks like it sets itself up automagically | 17:46 |
| sledges | https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/6.1.0/0.20120920.1/ | 17:46 |
| sledges | PS: Platform chroot SDK is not the best example | 17:47 |
| sledges | best to look at VM SDK: | 17:47 |
| sledges | http://img.merproject.org/images/web/henrik/6-20121115-132446/ | 17:47 |
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| Uninstall | uhm | 17:48 |
| sledges | if it won't start at boot, you can always examine that VM's systemd folders, what maybe other targets trigger | 17:48 |
| sledges | everything what starts in Xorg is in /usr/lib/systemd/user/nemo-mobile-target.wants and their dependencies | 17:49 |
| sledges | you should examine those file, to see how to create your own (lines starting with After,Requires and Exec are of your interest) | 17:50 |
| Uninstall | nice | 17:50 |
| sledges | I know :} | 17:51 |
| Uninstall | sledges: ok, so I must understand why openssh-server doesn't autostart by itself | 17:51 |
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| sledges | best is to have Nemo and SDK rootfss extracted and examine them. Nemo starts lipstick, so grepping could give you all boot sequence image (or `systemctl dot` command ;) | 17:52 |
| sledges | doesn't it ? | 17:53 |
| sledges | I'd believe it does. | 17:53 |
| Uninstall | ok, I will try it | 17:53 |
| sledges | I just tried to tie loose ends just in case ;) | 17:53 |
| sledges | you can always check it's RPM contents (I do this all the time), download it from OBS | 17:53 |
| sledges | and look inside, probably ./lib/systemd/system/openssh* will be lurking there ;) | 17:54 |
| Uninstall | ok | 17:54 |
| Uninstall | I've got also some problems with systemd-journald... | 17:55 |
| sledges | ah I saw your post. so journalctl doesn't work ? | 17:55 |
| Uninstall | <43>systemd-journald[49]: Failed to accept stdout connection: Function not implemented | 17:55 |
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| Stskeeps | mer-kernel-checker time? | 17:55 |
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| sledges | it was yesterday :) but yeah, maybe you missed smthng | 17:56 |
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| Uninstall | how can I add getty and login at boot? It would be nice too | 17:57 |
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| sledges | Uninstall, make a link to serial-getty@.service (find where it is) as /lib/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/serial-getty@ttymxc0.service | 18:00 |
| sledges | then you'll get a prompt on serial | 18:00 |
| Uninstall | cool | 18:00 |
| sledges | I think same approach is for VTs | 18:00 |
| sledges | ~/similar :) | 18:00 |
| Uninstall | nice, it will help me a lot to understand what is not working on that system | 18:00 |
| sledges | I never knew this systemd symbolic link naming trick until someone ( Stskeeps ;P ) told me on here :) | 18:01 |
| sledges | yup, you #mer, you learn :)) | 18:01 |
| sledges | *you MERn, you learn | 18:02 |
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| * sledges off home | 18:03 | |
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| Uninstall | next question will be: how do I apply updates to freescale ltib? I've been only able to build everything using the version provided on the website | 18:05 |
| Uninstall | but I didn't apply any update on top of it | 18:05 |
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| sledges | should be a PATCH-README.pdf or something | 19:13 |
| sledges | Uninstall, ^ | 19:15 |
| sledges | inside the archive | 19:15 |
| Uninstall | I didn't find it | 19:15 |
| Uninstall | I've just found uImage uboot-whatever etc... | 19:16 |
| Uninstall | it doesn't seem a patch | 19:16 |
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