#mer log for Thursday, 2013-01-03

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yunta_Warning: file /usr/lib/egl/egl_gallium.so conflicts between attempted installs of mesa-x86-generic-8.0.1-1.12.i586 and mesa-llvmpipe-8.0.5-1.4.i58600:16
yunta_grrr00:16
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CosmoHillnight night00:33
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chriadammardy: I'm now polishing the QML apis I've written which wrap the authentication-related functionality in Identity and AuthSession.  I'm trying to test oauth2 authentication, and have installed signon-plugin-oauth2, however whenever I try to create a session with the method "oauth2" I get: authsessionimpl.cpp 313 errorSlot QDBusError("com.google.code.AccountsSSO.SingleSignOn.Error.MethodNotKnown", "Authentication method is not known.")01:53
chriadamany tips on what I need to get it to progress to the next stage?  Note that I don't have signon-ui installed...01:54
chriadammardy: I also installed the "oauthclient" example from signon-plugin-oauth2, but it gives the same error when I try to run it.01:58
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chriadamdbus-monitor suggests that "getAuthSessionObjectPath" for parameter "oauth2" fails.  I'm just not sure what I need to do to get the signond to recognise the oauth2 signon plugin. :-/02:12
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chriadammardy: urgh, sorry - turns out I just hadn't installed one of the dependency libs correctly.03:31
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situMorning all04:38
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zhxtmorning...05:01
zhxtubuntu for phone is using Qt5,ubuntu for phone is using Qt5, http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/05:02
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Bostikmorning05:22
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Stskeepsgood morning all06:23
timopho/06:23
Stskeepstimoph: how's the new work?06:38
timophat least seems still interesting after one day :)06:39
timophinteresting things, a lot to learn and I like the people here06:40
timophso nothing to complain06:40
Stskeeps:nod:06:41
timophbtw, are in .fi during Jan or Feb?06:42
timophjust thinking about the date for the next devaamo hackday06:42
Stskeepsnext week but not sure if i make it past tampere06:42
timophthat's too soon anyway06:43
Stskeepsand leaving already on friday06:43
timophmight be easier to ask someone based in .fi anyway to talk about hacking on mer. sage for example06:47
timophwould love to have you as a guest there though06:47
Stskeepsyeah06:47
timophSage: hint ^ :p06:47
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daniel-shi there07:42
daniel-sSo, I have been here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Mer_platform_SDK07:42
daniel-sI'm a little confused07:42
daniel-swhat do I need to download if I just want to start trying to create applications using QT for Mer?07:43
daniel-s"Application SDK's are the ones that deal with Qt applications and libraries, HTML5, etc, while Platform SDK's are for developing the platform, compiling native code and other things revolving around the platform developer/hacker needs"07:43
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daniel-sthe whole page talks about how to download and install the Platform SDK07:43
dm8tbrdaniel-s: which device are you targetting?07:44
daniel-sI don't have a device with Mer on it, I figured I would get an image of the x86 version and run it in Virtualbox07:46
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CosmoHillwoof07:57
Bostikmeow?07:57
CosmoHillStskeeps says moo so I say woof07:58
Jopemoof?08:00
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Stskeepszenvoid: morn08:54
zenvoidhello08:54
Stskeepszenvoid: well, i think they're using libhybris too08:54
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zenvoidpossibly, I was only guessing08:56
zenvoidbut, have you found any indication, or guessing too?08:59
Stskeepsfairly sure of it09:00
zenvoidok09:01
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zenvoidif it is a true deb based distribution, and has a qml user interface, I think I could be interested in it09:13
zenvoidi like debs and qt, you know09:13
Stskeepsand if it's open source, which is a big question09:13
zenvoidyeah, it still depends on the license, that's true09:14
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Venemomorning09:24
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Stskeepsmorn Venemo09:24
VenemoStskeeps: I watched the ubuntu mobile video yesterday09:25
Stskeepsoh?09:25
Venemolots of eye candy accompanied by lots of bullshit09:25
Stskeepsisn't that every product launch? ;p09:25
Venemoand it has some interesting concepts coped together from various places09:25
Venemogood side: they at least use Qt09:26
Venemobad side: they chose to reimplement the whole wheel on their own09:27
VenemoI suspect they might use libhybris though09:27
Stskeepsprobably09:27
Stskeepsbut not in their demos09:27
Venemodunno09:28
Venemofor UI, they might use lipstick, or (since it's set for 2014) maybe that thing is wayland already09:28
Stskeepsit's qt5 supposedly09:28
Venemotheir UI concept is a mess (doesn't seem very usable to me), but their eye-candy beats jolla's09:29
w00tit might explain a few things if their shell is still qt4 based09:29
w00t(i.e. it's damn slow)09:29
Venemow00t: is it?09:29
w00tbut then, jolla got good performance out of qt4... ;)09:29
w00tVenemo: the video I saw made me cringe, and judging from the youtube comments, I wasn't the only one for once09:29
Venemow00t: which video was that?09:30
w00tnumerous flicks and swipes that didn't register, or registered after a bit of a delay, and with some jerky visuals thrown in09:30
Venemomaybe we saw different videos09:30
w00tI don't have it open now09:30
w00tStskeeps linked me I think09:30
veskuhverge hands-on was laggy at least09:30
w00tI think it was verge's, yes09:30
* lbt checks if he's in #jollamobile.... :)09:30
Venemohe linked me to some video where Mark Shuttleworth talked about it like it was the next best thing since sliced bread09:30
w00tlbt: not really on-topic there either, unfortunately09:31
w00tlbt: we could always start talking about how to throw them onto a mer bus, though :)09:31
* Stskeeps likes 'under' better ;p09:31
Venemo:D09:32
Venemoon the other hand, it is nice to see someone else going for non-android Linux09:32
Bostiksomeone outside IVI, you mean?09:32
Venemosomeone on the smartphone market, I mean09:32
w00tStskeeps: i typed that originally... ;)09:36
w00tmer: you're either on us, or under us :)09:36
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Venemolol09:46
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rcg"No other smartphone lets you switch between applications this quickly."10:21
rcgähem10:21
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rcg"ähem", as in a very skeptical, sarcastic sound10:24
kulvesounds very finnish10:25
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rcg:)10:25
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Bostikokay, with the basic wayland+RPi bumps ironed out I should probably aim for qt-compositor on mer...10:40
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kulvercg: thanks for fixing those empty packages :)11:37
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rcgkulve, :)13:29
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rcgSage, lbt Stskeeps general question: is it possible to move the plasma active stuff from cobs@meego to bmo?13:39
Stskeepsrcg: rule is that people contribute to servers the amount they use13:39
Stskeepsthrough mer project donations13:39
rcgi see13:39
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rcgi will need to ask in #active then about the official pa policy13:41
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MrBlueSky125hi, is it meanwhile possible to run mer/plasma active on the C71+ Zenithink tablet (also known as spark)?15:00
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sledgeshi15:14
sledgeswhere should I start looking that this .ks on pandaboard doesn't start XOrg, though says "Reached target Graphical Interface.": http://pastie.org/5616430 ?15:15
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sledgesI can launch xorg manually though15:20
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ArtoxGood Evening. I've been trying to make a source service to fetzch code form a git repo on mer cobs16:26
Artoxapparently tar_scm is not available (I was following this: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_private_instance_software_live_cycle#Integrating_with_Git ) maybe thats outdated? Is there anotehr way/a sample to look at?16:27
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wmarone_I bet this Leikr thing is using Mer :)20:17
Stskeepshmm?20:17
wmarone_http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/903141699/leikr-the-new-danish-designed-gps-sports-watch?ref=category20:17
Stskeepshow'd you bet that?20:17
wmarone_it kinda lines up20:17
wmarone_ex-nokia engineers using Linux and Qt20:18
wmarone_Mer is a perfect fit20:18
wmarone_I could totally be wrong though20:18
Stskeepsthat's true, well, first i've heard of it20:19
Stskeepsi'd buy one if it was hackable20:20
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