Thursday, 2012-12-27

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situMorning everyone03:55
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Bostikoh nice, 'v5.0.0' tag in qtwebkit.git06:03
phaeronlbt: that's not very helpful , need debug output06:08
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davidqiStskeeps: I make a symbol link to mer root fs, and booting mer again, but still needs yesterday's steps to start qmlviewer07:49
Stskeepsdavidqi: ls -al usr/bin/Xorg on your nfs server?07:49
davidqiI mean, Xorg is like following: -rws--x--x 1 root root 1873648 Nov 26  2012 Xorg07:49
davidqiI still have to login with root/rootme07:50
Stskeepsshould work, does it show same thing when logged in?07:51
davidqiyes, exactly same07:52
davidqido you need the log file?07:52
Stskeepsyeah, i guess07:53
Stskeepsweird, looks fine07:56
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el_robindavidqi: which options do you have in your /etc/exports ?08:01
Stskeepsdavidqi: su mer , Xorg -noreset &08:02
Stskeepswhat happens?08:02
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davidqiel_robin: /work/arm/merrootfs *(rw,sync,no_root_squash)08:04
davidqiStskeeps: what is 'su mer'?08:04
Stskeepsdavidqi: a command to type08:04
Stskeeps'su mer'08:04
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Stskeepsand then afterwards, Xorg -noreset &08:04
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davidqiStskeeps: it hangs at 'vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device'08:07
davidqiStskeeps: from the note, there is a words:08:07
davidqiBuild Operating System: Linux 3.4.11-2.16-desktop armv7l08:07
davidqiCurrent Operating System: Linux 3.0.4 #12 Wed Dec 26 23:28:25 PST 2012 armv6l08:07
Stskeepsdavidqi: ok, and anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?08:08
davidqiis it true that mer is built upon armv7l ?08:10
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davidqimy linux kernel is 3.0.4, and supporting armv6l08:10
Stskeepswell, that's a bit of a lie from the system, we build on x86_64 machines that uses a combination of scratchbox2 and qemu :)08:10
Stskeepsit's not a factor in this problem08:10
Stskeepsdavidqi: i'm running out of ideas at the moment, but: reboot the vm, then log in as root, and run 'journalctl'08:12
Stskeepsand find everything prefixed with uxlaunch08:12
khromdoes xiaomi run mer. oppo? meizu?08:14
Stskeepskhrom: not yet ;p08:15
davidqiStskeeps: Jan 01 00:00:12 uxlaunch[79]: uxlaunch v0.64 started.08:15
davidqiJan 01 00:00:12 uxlaunch[79]: user "meego", tty #1, session "def08:15
davidqiJan 01 00:00:12 uxlaunch[79]: Error: can't find user "meego"08:15
Stskeepsdavidqi: ah.. that's interesting08:16
khromhopefully FirefoxOS gets off the ground (and is Xorg based rather than Android...)08:16
Stskeepskhrom: firefoxos is android based atm :P08:16
Stskeepsdavidqi: can you show me the .ks file you used?08:16
khromso, does anything post N9 run mer, in the phone space? am looking for new HW08:16
Stskeepsdavidqi: and what does /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch say08:17
khromhave a harmattan-era Mer (what was it, Nemo) on N900 and was converted long ago..08:17
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davidqiStskeeps: this is my .ks file:
Stskeepsok, and uxlaunch?08:21
davidqiand uxlaunch:
Stskeepsdavidqi: did you use Mer Platform SDK to build the image with?08:22
davidqiPATH=$PATH:/sbin sudo mic create fs  mer-core-armv6l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks -o /parentroot/srv/mer/targets  --pkgmgr=yum --arch=armv6l08:23
Stskeepsseems about right08:24
Stskeepsdavidqi: in etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch , add user=mer08:24
Stskeepsin the bottom08:24
Stskeepsthe line: user=mer08:24
davidqido you mean:08:25
davidqi# gnome        : gnome-shell desktop08:25
davidqi# XBMC         : XBox Media Center08:25
w00tpeople still use uxlaunch? ;p08:26
davidqidone, and reboot ?08:27
davidqivgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device08:28
davidqiis it true, 'mer' is used to login automatically08:28
davidqinow it hangs at '192 login: vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device   vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device'08:29
Stskeeps.. you know, uxlaunch doesn't actually do anything useful, hmm08:29
davidqithe screen now is up08:30
Stskeepsyes, and i found the mistake i think :P08:31
davidqiyes , it is running now08:31
Stskeepsuse that .ks file08:31
Stskeeps# Create a session file for qmlviewer.08:31
Stskeepsis the section that matters08:31
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Stskeepsqmlviewer didn't actually start up properly on it's own before, i think08:32
Stskeepsso, xorg didn't come up sanely :)08:33
Stskeepsand chose the wrong user, etc08:33
Stskeepstry with that .ks instead, might work beter08:33
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davidqiStskeeps: I am building the new mer image now. BTW, how to cleanly clear the old built image files?08:44
Stskeepsit usually asks you08:46
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davidqido you mean, just rm it? there is no commands like "mic clean" for that?08:50
Stskeepsi just rm -rf them personally08:50
Stskeepsusually it asks if i want to overwrite it08:51
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SfietKonstantinmorning :)08:57
Stskeepsmorn SfietKonstantin08:58
davidqiStskeeps: through the new .ks file, there are two new files created in /usr/share/xsessions/, default.desktop, and X-MER-QMLVIEWER.desktop08:59
Stskeepsone is a symlink to the other08:59
davidqiand I create a link to serial-getty@.service under lib/systemd/system/, named serial-getty@ttyAMA0.service09:00
Stskeepsyou don't strictly need that, if your console= is console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 , it'll automatically appear there09:01
Stskeeps(i think)09:01
davidqiand I insert 'ttyAMA0' to etc/securetty09:02
Stskeepsah, that you probably need09:02
davidqithat is all what I've done after mer building with the new .ks file09:02
Stskeepsyou can add most of this in %post section, btw09:02
davidqibut now it still needs login09:02
Stskeepsdoesn't boot to qmlviewer?09:02
davidqidoes not09:03
Stskeepsdoes it do it if you add user=mer ?09:03
davidqiI have not done user=mer09:03
davidqiI ever thought that is not needed09:03
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davidqiI will try now09:04
Stskeepsit'd think so too but something goes wrong09:04
davidqiofcourse, to make sure I used the correct rootfs, I re-link NFS directory to the new root file system just built09:05
davidqiStskeeps: it is strange, the qmlviewer run up as soon as I modified the uxlaunch, even I have not done any other thing09:10
davidqiand also, is it true that 'user=mer' can also be added in the %POST part?09:16
Stskeepsyeah but it should just work.. looking at sources atm09:16
Stskeepsls -al /home09:17
davidqidrwx------ 14 qifeng qifeng 4096 Dec 27 09:09 mer09:17
Stskeepsuhh.. does it say that on the device?09:18
davidqinothing special09:18
Stskeepsdo you run ls -al /home inside the VM?09:19
Stskeepsand it says that?09:19
davidqiwait , I run it in my machine09:19
davidqiI can not run in VM09:21
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davidqievery time I close the qmlviewer, it will restart automatically09:21
Stskeepsyeah, ok - through serial login perhaps?09:21
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davidqido you mean init=/bin/sh09:22
davidqiin the qemu-system-arm command line09:23
Stskeepswell, i was rather thinking in serial=stdio ?09:23
davidqi           sudo qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -kernel ./zImageLatest -append "root=/dev/nfs init=/sbin/init console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 nfsroot=$host_ip:$WORKDIR/merrootfs rw ip=dhcp" -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=./ -serial=stdio09:23
Stskeepsand log in on the terminal?09:23
davidqiok , let me try09:24
davidqiqemu-system-arm: -serial=stdio: invalid option09:25
Stskeeps-serial stdio, sorry09:26
davidqiI used -serial stdio always09:27
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Stskeepsok, you should be able to log in on that, even if qmlviewer is running09:27
Stskeepspress enter a couple of times, perhaps09:27
davidqihehe, ok09:27
davidqiduring my booting, there are many work results which is [OK]09:29
davidqibut ,09:29
davidqi[FAILED] Failed to start Recreate Volatile Files and Directories.09:29
davidqi         See 'systemctl status systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service' for details.09:29
davidqido you think this is helpful?09:29
Stskeepsthat's fine09:29
davidqiand ls -al /home, get results:09:30
davidqidrwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 Dec 27  2012 .09:30
davidqidrwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 Dec 27  2012 ..09:30
davidqidrwx------ 14 mer  mer  4096 Dec 27  2012 mer09:30
Stskeepsok, that looks correct09:30
Stskeepslbt: [Wed Dec 26 23:11:12 2012] [alert] xforward: mod_proxy.c is not available09:31
Stskeepsnm, is old09:33
Bostiknow this is bliss: ./ --skip-osc-update --override-version '5.0.0' --module qtwebkit --module-gitref v5.0.0 --skip-changelog09:44
Bostikdefinitely worth the rewrite :)09:45
BostikI can finally do individual and tricky modules without ever touching stuff inside the OBS checkout tree09:45
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rcgis there another way to automatically download packages from obs than osc?10:01
Stskeepsnot that easily, what error do you get?10:02
rcg[Errno 110] Connection timed out: ''10:02
rcgsometimes it starts downloading a bit and then fails in between10:02
rcgit's so bad i really cannot checkout even a single package10:03
* Stskeeps tries from his server10:03
Stskeepsi could check it out fine10:03
Stskeepsit has to be your network10:03
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rcghmm what could i check with my network?10:04
rcgi usually have no problems at all when browsing, downloading etc.10:04
Stskeepswell, you can try with curl manually10:04
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davidqiStskeeps: thanks for your help , I will have to leave now, the error is really strange :)10:05
Stskeepsdavidqi: np10:05
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kulve"osc co -A home:wonko:pa:nexus7:testing/maliit-active" works here without problems10:12
Smuliuleeko yhteiset safkat vai porukalla kppaa?10:13
StskeepsSmuli: sorry, english only channel here :)10:13
plfioriniStskeeps, GL renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.1, 256 bits)  ;)10:14
Stskeepsplfiorini: congrats :)10:14
kulveStskeeps: I guess that finnish comment wasn't mentioned to this channel in the first place :)10:14
plfioriniStskeeps, seems like your patch works fine, now i "just" need to make it work on VirtualBox (it still need drm) anyway thanks10:14
Stskeepsplfiorini: should work without drm, this will use shm part of qml compositor10:15
plfioriniStskeeps, weston doesn't and greenisland brutally crash10:16
Stskeepsi thought you didn't use weston, so10:16
rcgStskeeps, kulve thanks for testing... will try a wired network connection next10:17
rcgbtw. sometimes checking out individual packages works10:17
plfiorinii'm looking at the QtCompositor source code to check if it needs some env viariable setup10:17
rcgbut then it fails on the next one.. but generally the error rate is astonishingly high10:17
Stskeepswell, for qt compositor you'd run it on EGL_PLATFORM=fbdev perhaps10:17
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plfioriniStskeeps, seems like it crashes on QScreen, seems it's null10:19
StskeepsEGL_PLATFORM=fbdev qml-compositor -platform eglfs10:19
Stskeepsis what i use10:19
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plfioriniall right, i'm using -platform kms by default if $DISPLAY is not set ;)10:20
Stskeepsmight not work on virtualbox ;)10:20
plfioriniprobably i need to setup the framebuffer first10:20
Stskeepsah, right, that too10:21
kulvercg: I tested that osc co command ~10 times and no timeouts10:26
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plfiorinianyway llvmpipe is pretty decent running greenisland on x1110:27
Stskeepsadd a few cores and it's easily at 60fps10:28
rcgkulve, thanks.. hmm that's really strange10:31
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Stskeepsrcg: appens on wire too?10:32
rcgStskeeps, yes10:32
rcgwell, lol wtf? ... ping time to cobs is ~170ms while to it is ~16ms10:32
Stskeepsgoogle has better servers than us, and it's across the globe? ;)10:33
rcgwell, ping to bmo is ~33ms10:33
rcgbrb, switching to wlan again10:34
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Stskeepsbmo's in germany, too10:34
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Stskeepsbmo's in germany, too10:34
rcgah, i see10:35
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rcgno wonder cobs was always a little bit slow here.. but so far it worked at least10:36
rcgvim /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/osc/core.py10:36
rcgincrease hardcoded timeout10:36
rcgmv /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/osc/core.pyo /root10:36
rcgwaiting if that does the trick10:37
rcgshoulda have tried pinging cobs much earlier :/10:37
* Bostik just got qtwebkit 5.0.0 linked10:37
situBostik: Well done10:38
Stskeepsno modifications?10:38
Bostikpackaging bugs remain, but the binaries themselves should be ready this week10:38
BostikStskeeps: have a look at modular-qt-specs.git and the latest patches against qtwebkit sources10:38
BostikStskeeps: I worked around the JSDestructibleObject.h/JSObject.h fatalities by folding the two together and removing the trickery of "declare inline classmethods outside class header"10:39
Bostikone of the many things I will just lump into "did not wish to know, did not wish to do" category...10:40
Stskeepsi know the feeling10:40
BostikStskeeps: it also kind of helped that qtwebkit.git sports a v5.0.0 tag since last night10:40
Stskeepsi've learnt more about wayland protocol in the last days than i ever wanted to know10:41
Bostikso I suddenly had a really good and known baseline10:41
BostikStskeeps: just keep thinking about it as a library meant for window-manager authors, lot of the weird things make ~sense that way :)10:42
Stskeepsi had a more fun experience than that, how to deal with wayland and threading10:42
Stskeepsin android, buffers get dequeued (allocated) on one thread, and queued (presented) on a different10:43
Stskeepson some gpu drivers10:43
Stskeepswhich leads to some very fun scenarios10:43
Bostikraw framebuffer/drm access and hidden concurrency bugs, now that's evil10:43
CosmoHillsounds like a merry christmas10:43
BostikStskeeps: producer/consumer split and threading... sounds a bit like a project I worked on recently...10:44
Stskeepsadd qt5 threaded opengl on top and we have ourselves a circus10:44
Bostikalthough that was for audio streaming and voip only10:44
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Stskeepsso yeah, that's how i spent my xmas10:46
CosmoHilland drunk?10:46
Stskeepsi wish.10:46
CosmoHillyou poor man10:47
BostikI was10:47
Bostikslightly perhaps, but still happily in the land10:47
CosmoHillI wasn't, in fact i got two presents that I couldn't eat or drink this christmas10:47
Bostikdrunk coding works splendidly, had to fix a number of freaky facepalm-quality bugs but most of the code logic was pretty nicely brewed10:48
rcgok.. even with a timeout value of 800 this fails.. setting to 3000(sic!)10:51
rcgwell, i have the suspicion these timeout values are not really picked up10:51
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StskeepsdisInstr(arm): unhandled instruction: 0xEEBA7BEF cond=14(0xE) 27:20=235(0xEB) 4:4=0 3:0=15(0xF)11:01
Stskeeps==1524== valgrind: Unrecognised instruction at address 0x49ceea4.11:01
Stskeeps==1524==    at 0x49CEEA4: QQuickImage::updatePaintNode(QSGNode*, QQuickItem::UpdatePaintNodeData*) (qquickimage.cpp:628)11:01
Stskeepsthis is always a good way to start a day11:01
BostikCosmoHill: :D11:01
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BostikCosmoHill: althought we should never forget
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rcghmm, so do you have any idea how to solve my timeout issue?11:23
rcgso far i tried setting the socket.timout_foo globally11:23
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rcglocally in the method11:23
rcgand passed the timeout parameter to the urlopen call11:23
rcghonestly, it is a little frustrating that simply a longer rtt causes osc to fail that miserably11:24
plfioriniStskeeps, got greenisland working thanks on vbox :)11:25
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rcgis there maybe some global environment variable or something to override timeout settings?11:29
Stskeepsplfiorini: cool11:29
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rcgjust in case you have the time, could you test if really the delay is the problem?11:32
rcgtc qdisc add dev wlan0 root netem delay 200ms11:33
rcgthis adds an artificial delay of 200 ms to wlan011:33
kulvercg: my ping to my own server is 13ms, to 50ms and to cobs 203ms. Still osc co works11:35
rcgkulve, hmm i see11:35
rcgi wonder what is causing this...11:35
rcggotta get my other laptop ready and test with that one11:36
rcgjust need to find the box where it is in...11:36
rcgeverything else wrt internet works nicely... streaming, http, irc, email, etc.. it's just osc which refuses to work11:38
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rcgi wonder if i could have missed something else?11:40
Stskeepsthere is something awkward goign on with the TCP connections to *.meego.com11:41
Stskeepsi've never been able to figure out what it is11:41
kulvewhat kind of awkward?11:43
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lbtoh yipee - cfe still busted11:45
Stskeepsas in, connections that time out, when dealing with some tcp implementations11:46
Stskeepsor the weird throttling that goes on there at times11:46
lbtThu Dec 27 11:46:46 2012] [error] [client] proxy: Error reading from remote server returned by /error/HTTP_BAD_GATEWAY.html.var, referer:
Stskeepsyeah, we're discussing odd issues with meego cobs11:47
lbtok - but bmo is fully down11:47
rcghmm i see... well what just comes to my mind is that i am now also getting ipv6 addresses (at least locally) here11:48
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Stskeepslbt: :nod:11:50
lbtapache doesn't log when things *hit* it, it logs 5 mins later when it times out11:50
* lbt sits here and glares hatefully at infra11:51
lbtI promised Denise to play with SDK+QML today :/11:51
lbtcan we use OE ?11:52
* CosmoHill smiles cos his script works again11:53
* CosmoHill stops smiling as errors fly across hi screen11:53
Bostiklbt: that apache delay-event-logging has been a bitch, and the few occasions I've had to deal with it I've bitten the bullet and dug out the faithful tcpdump+wireshark pair11:54
Bostikit's a major PITA but at least that way I get to see exactly what goes on11:55
lbtBostik: gee thanks - that makes me feel *so* much better     *g*11:55
lbtBostik: do you happen to know what kind of MPM you use ? event or worker?11:56
Bostiklbt: in production setups I've used worker, the event-based apache wasn't in too good a shape the last time I had to deal with it11:57
Bostik"cut down workers, cut down worker lifetimes, see where the bug hits *this* time"11:58
lbtright - I was on event a bit yesterday but found that passenger doesn't support it until the next release - pretty damn silly since fastcgi has been around since '9811:58
kulvercg: just some wild ideas: try to decrease the MTU?11:59
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Bostiklbt: a word of warning - if there's any kind of SSL accelerator or other kind of terminating gateway, the problems can be hideous ;)12:01
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lbtyeah, we kinda have to do that12:02
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* Stskeeps notes that ARM really should have hardware watchpoints12:24
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rcgwell, was experimenting quite a bit12:28
rcgso i might have missed some messages12:28
rcgbut i think i narrowed the problem down12:28
rcgseems to be my new isp :/12:28
rcgor something with the way i am now connected to the internet12:28
rcgam currently connected via my cellphone provider and so far checking things out works smoothly12:29
rcgwill investigate in more detail later12:29
kulvercg: try with smaller mtu?12:30
rcgbut so far thanks a lot for all the help to pinpoint the problem12:30
rcgkulve, yeah i did12:31
rcgapparently you didn't get my message that i did :)12:31
kulveI think I didn't..12:31
rcgalso tried to switch dns to google and disabled dns for ipv612:31
rcgwill look into this more thoroughly later12:32
rcgnow i gotta got to the hardware store12:33
rcgand it looks like that my cellphone internet connection is about to die as well :/12:33
rcgand thanks again :)12:35
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Bostikargh, packaging typo13:00
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rcgfinally, looks like i solved the issue13:47
rcgthe new cable modem/router has some security "feature" that seems to have caused the problem :/13:48
Bostikrcg: that's an annoingly familiar state of affairs13:50
rcgit's situations like this that make you feel at first very stupid, then angry, and then stupid again13:50
rcgthey claim it to be some kind of "stateful firewall".. apparently it works more like some fuzzy logic that decided to randomly sabotage osc in funky ways13:53
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rcghmmz.. grml.. nope.. same error again :/13:55
rcgfirst 5 packages worked and then it starts to fail again...13:56
Bostikrcg: it's even less funny when the network device sabotaging your connections is the edge router for which you have *absolutely no control* at all13:57
Bostikbeen there, done that, ...13:57
Bostik(imagine a cisco router, advertised as "ipsec aware", silently and stubbornly "fixing" your non-cisco originated ipsec traffic)13:58
rcgBostik, ouch, sounds bad13:59
rcgi don't know if it is a good sign then that the cable modem has printed "cisco" on it14:00
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rcgam right now disabling all "features" i can find14:00
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Bostikrcg: it was bad indeed, and it was back in 2004/2005; since then I understand cisco routers at least could be set to a sensible default regarding ipsec - "DO NOT TOUCH"14:01
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rcglooks like it attempts to establish a tcp connection from my side but it doesn't get a response14:28
rcgin wireshark i can see quite some [syn] but am missing the according  [syn,ack]14:30
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lbtrcg: where to ?14:36
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Stskeepsdid anybody here ever play with 'perf'?14:38
rcgmore particularly as i am using osc14:40
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rcgbut both resolve to the same ip anyhow14:41
rcglbt, am fighting the timeout issue at cobs@meego right now14:41
rcglooks like my isp is the culprit14:42
rcgwhen using the 3g connection via my cellphone everything works like a charm14:42
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rcgright now it worked some time and then the suddenly the initial syn's are not replied anymore14:50
rcgso i see some re-transmitted syns and finally it gives up sending rst's14:50
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rcgthe interesting thing is that i can ping the cobs without problems14:57
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rcgso the routing in general works14:57
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Bostikrcg: if you're curious, it's always possible to run a 'traceroute -T' and see which hop actually breaks15:01
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rcgBostik, thanks, but icmp works fine15:05
rcgit's just tcp that fails. and it "only" fails sometimes15:05
rcgi guess that's my biggest issue right now, that it randomly fails for no apparent reason15:06
Bostikrcg: exactly, '-T' is for TCP SYN :)15:06
rcgwhich makes it a real pain to debug15:06
rcgBostik, aye i see :)15:06
rcgi'll let it run in a loop...15:07
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rcgis the cobs using some funky load balancing or something?15:09
rcgthat could possibly cause things failing sometimes?15:09
rcgbut it has to be something my isp is not handling properly15:10
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rcgnow connected via university vpn15:21
rcgso far things look better15:21
* rcg curses his isp15:22
Bostikpubworker04 finished "build qtwebkit5.spec" at Thu Dec 27 15:06:49 UTC 2012. code 015:23
rcgBostik, congrats :)15:24
rcgthe broken point really seems to somewhere at my isp15:25
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rcgwell, this is at least a workaround i can live with15:28
rcgbut this was truly painful...15:30
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Stskeepsplfiorini: ping16:22
plfioriniStskeeps, pong16:22
Stskeepsplfiorini: add  vt.global_cursor_default=0 - it'll kill the cursor but help a lot16:22
Stskeepsto kernel command line16:22
plfioriniStskeeps, thanks16:23
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lbtin what twisted corner of the universe does ::   [DEBUG|#21319] storing file: <binary content of uploaded file>   make any sense whatsoever? Then add to that that we routinely upload f'ing big tarballs and all of a sudden debug logging is just useless17:20
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Stskeepslbt: germany, suse hq?17:21
Stskeepsanything i can aid with?17:22
Bostiklbt: google universe might be a good fit too17:22
Bostik"sure, we can spare a few petabytes for your project..."17:23
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lbtStskeeps: I'm making sensible changes, restarting and then going away for a bit - then when I get back I see if it's dead17:24
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lbtso the default suse VM didn't have exim - does now17:24
Stskeepslbt: are you doing the changes using puppet?17:26
Stskeeps(i have to ask)17:27
lbtI only use puppet to make wide-ranging changes17:27
lbteg resolv.conf, LAN-wide ntp/smtp/ldap ... that kind of thing17:27
Stskeepsokay, so you're sure it's not fighting your changes? :P17:28
Stskeepsjust asking :P17:28
lbtyeah, makes sense :)17:28
lbtI thing api is hanging up on something - the problem is there's no way (AFIK) to say to ruby "give me a ruby-level stack dump on that process"17:29
* Stskeeps is learning about performance analysis17:33
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lbt  sometimes google just doesn't understand me....21:25
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lbtStskeeps: if you're about could you see if cfe is better behaved now ?21:49
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lbtsardinimoi-away: hello (when you're back) :)21:49
Stskeepslbt, i can access it, that's a start21:51
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lbtOK - I've run ab against it and it's seeming to be better21:59
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rcgalright, jointing is no fun23:35
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