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| Bostik | oh nice, 'v5.0.0' tag in qtwebkit.git | 06:03 |
| phaeron | lbt: that's not very helpful , need debug output | 06:08 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: I make a symbol link to mer root fs, and booting mer again, but still needs yesterday's steps to start qmlviewer | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: ls -al usr/bin/Xorg on your nfs server? | 07:49 |
| davidqi | I mean, Xorg is like following: -rws--x--x 1 root root 1873648 Nov 26 2012 Xorg | 07:49 |
| davidqi | I still have to login with root/rootme | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | should work, does it show same thing when logged in? | 07:51 |
| davidqi | yes, exactly same | 07:52 |
| davidqi | do you need the log file? | 07:52 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i guess | 07:53 |
| davidqi | http://pastie.org/5583178 | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | weird, looks fine | 07:56 |
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| el_robin | davidqi: which options do you have in your /etc/exports ? | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: su mer , Xorg -noreset & | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | what happens? | 08:02 |
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| davidqi | sorry, | 08:03 |
| davidqi | el_robin: /work/arm/merrootfs *(rw,sync,no_root_squash) | 08:04 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: what is 'su mer'? | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: a command to type | 08:04 |
| Stskeeps | 'su mer' | 08:04 |
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| Stskeeps | and then afterwards, Xorg -noreset & | 08:04 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: it hangs at 'vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device' | 08:07 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: from the note, there is a words: | 08:07 |
| davidqi | Build Operating System: Linux 3.4.11-2.16-desktop armv7l | 08:07 |
| davidqi | Current Operating System: Linux 192.168.123.109 3.0.4 #12 Wed Dec 26 23:28:25 PST 2012 armv6l | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: ok, and anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? | 08:08 |
| davidqi | http://pastie.org/5583230 | 08:09 |
| davidqi | is it true that mer is built upon armv7l ? | 08:10 |
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| davidqi | my linux kernel is 3.0.4, and supporting armv6l | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | well, that's a bit of a lie from the system, we build on x86_64 machines that uses a combination of scratchbox2 and qemu :) | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | it's not a factor in this problem | 08:10 |
| situ | Stskeeps: http://www.techinasia.com/xiaomi-sold-over-six-million-phones/ | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: i'm running out of ideas at the moment, but: reboot the vm, then log in as root, and run 'journalctl' | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | and find everything prefixed with uxlaunch | 08:12 |
| khrom | does xiaomi run mer. oppo? meizu? | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | khrom: not yet ;p | 08:15 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: Jan 01 00:00:12 192.168.123.109 uxlaunch[79]: uxlaunch v0.64 started. | 08:15 |
| davidqi | Jan 01 00:00:12 192.168.123.109 uxlaunch[79]: user "meego", tty #1, session "def | 08:15 |
| davidqi | ault" | 08:15 |
| davidqi | Jan 01 00:00:12 192.168.123.109 uxlaunch[79]: Error: can't find user "meego" | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: ah.. that's interesting | 08:16 |
| khrom | hopefully FirefoxOS gets off the ground (and is Xorg based rather than Android...) | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | khrom: firefoxos is android based atm :P | 08:16 |
| khrom | damn | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: can you show me the .ks file you used? | 08:16 |
| khrom | so, does anything post N9 run mer, in the phone space? am looking for new HW | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: and what does /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch say | 08:17 |
| khrom | have a harmattan-era Mer (what was it, Nemo) on N900 and was converted long ago.. | 08:17 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: this is my .ks file: http://pastie.org/5583265 | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok, and uxlaunch? | 08:21 |
| davidqi | and uxlaunch: pastie.org/5583276 | 08:21 |
| davidqi | http://pastie.org/5583276 | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: did you use Mer Platform SDK to build the image with? | 08:22 |
| davidqi | yes | 08:22 |
| davidqi | PATH=$PATH:/sbin sudo mic create fs mer-core-armv6l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks -o /parentroot/srv/mer/targets --pkgmgr=yum --arch=armv6l | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | seems about right | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: in etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch , add user=mer | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | in the bottom | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | the line: user=mer | 08:24 |
| davidqi | do you mean: | 08:25 |
| davidqi | ... | 08:25 |
| davidqi | ... | 08:25 |
| davidqi | # gnome : gnome-shell desktop | 08:25 |
| davidqi | # XBMC : XBox Media Center | 08:25 |
| davidqi | # | 08:25 |
| davidqi | user=mer | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:25 |
| w00t | people still use uxlaunch? ;p | 08:26 |
| davidqi | done, and reboot ? | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:27 |
| davidqi | vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device | 08:28 |
| davidqi | is it true, 'mer' is used to login automatically | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:29 |
| davidqi | now it hangs at '192 login: vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device' | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | .. you know, uxlaunch doesn't actually do anything useful, hmm | 08:29 |
| davidqi | yiiii | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/pastes/5583319/text | 08:30 |
| davidqi | the screen now is up | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | yes, and i found the mistake i think :P | 08:31 |
| davidqi | yes , it is running now | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | use that .ks file | 08:31 |
| davidqi | ? | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | # Create a session file for qmlviewer. | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | is the section that matters | 08:31 |
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| Stskeeps | qmlviewer didn't actually start up properly on it's own before, i think | 08:32 |
| davidqi | so? | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | so, xorg didn't come up sanely :) | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | and chose the wrong user, etc | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | try with that .ks instead, might work beter | 08:33 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: I am building the new mer image now. BTW, how to cleanly clear the old built image files? | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | it usually asks you | 08:46 |
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| davidqi | do you mean, just rm it? there is no commands like "mic clean" for that? | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | i just rm -rf them personally | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | usually it asks if i want to overwrite it | 08:51 |
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| SfietKonstantin | morning :) | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | morn SfietKonstantin | 08:58 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: through the new .ks file, there are two new files created in /usr/share/xsessions/, default.desktop, and X-MER-QMLVIEWER.desktop | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | one is a symlink to the other | 08:59 |
| davidqi | yes | 08:59 |
| davidqi | and I create a link to serial-getty@.service under lib/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/, named serial-getty@ttyAMA0.service | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | you don't strictly need that, if your console= is console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 , it'll automatically appear there | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | (i think) | 09:01 |
| davidqi | and I insert 'ttyAMA0' to etc/securetty | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that you probably need | 09:02 |
| davidqi | that is all what I've done after mer building with the new .ks file | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | you can add most of this in %post section, btw | 09:02 |
| davidqi | but now it still needs login | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't boot to qmlviewer? | 09:02 |
| davidqi | does not | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | does it do it if you add user=mer ? | 09:03 |
| davidqi | I have not done user=mer | 09:03 |
| davidqi | I ever thought that is not needed | 09:03 |
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| davidqi | I will try now | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | it'd think so too but something goes wrong | 09:04 |
| rcg | mornin | 09:04 |
| davidqi | ofcourse, to make sure I used the correct rootfs, I re-link NFS directory to the new root file system just built | 09:05 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: it is strange, the qmlviewer run up as soon as I modified the uxlaunch, even I have not done any other thing | 09:10 |
| davidqi | and also, is it true that 'user=mer' can also be added in the %POST part? | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | yeah but it should just work.. looking at sources atm | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | ls -al /home | 09:17 |
| davidqi | drwx------ 14 qifeng qifeng 4096 Dec 27 09:09 mer | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | uhh.. does it say that on the device? | 09:18 |
| davidqi | nothing special | 09:18 |
| davidqi | yes | 09:19 |
| davidqi | ? | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | do you run ls -al /home inside the VM? | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | and it says that? | 09:19 |
| davidqi | wait , I run it in my machine | 09:19 |
| davidqi | I can not run in VM | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 09:21 |
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| davidqi | every time I close the qmlviewer, it will restart automatically | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ok - through serial login perhaps? | 09:21 |
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| davidqi | do you mean init=/bin/sh | 09:22 |
| davidqi | in the qemu-system-arm command line | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | well, i was rather thinking in serial=stdio ? | 09:23 |
| davidqi | sudo qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -kernel ./zImageLatest -append "root=/dev/nfs init=/sbin/init console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 nfsroot=$host_ip:$WORKDIR/merrootfs rw ip=dhcp" -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=./qemu-ifup.sh -serial=stdio | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | and log in on the terminal? | 09:23 |
| davidqi | ok , let me try | 09:24 |
| davidqi | qemu-system-arm: -serial=stdio: invalid option | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | -serial stdio, sorry | 09:26 |
| davidqi | I used -serial stdio always | 09:27 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, you should be able to log in on that, even if qmlviewer is running | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | press enter a couple of times, perhaps | 09:27 |
| davidqi | hehe, ok | 09:27 |
| davidqi | during my booting, there are many work results which is [OK] | 09:29 |
| davidqi | but , | 09:29 |
| davidqi | [FAILED] Failed to start Recreate Volatile Files and Directories. | 09:29 |
| davidqi | See 'systemctl status systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service' for details. | 09:29 |
| davidqi | do you think this is helpful? | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine | 09:29 |
| davidqi | and ls -al /home, get results: | 09:30 |
| davidqi | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 27 2012 . | 09:30 |
| davidqi | drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 Dec 27 2012 .. | 09:30 |
| davidqi | drwx------ 14 mer mer 4096 Dec 27 2012 mer | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok, that looks correct | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: [Wed Dec 26 23:11:12 2012] [alert] xforward: mod_proxy.c is not available | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | nm, is old | 09:33 |
| Bostik | now this is bliss: ./update-sources.py --skip-osc-update --override-version '5.0.0' --module qtwebkit --module-gitref v5.0.0 --skip-changelog | 09:44 |
| Bostik | definitely worth the rewrite :) | 09:45 |
| Bostik | I can finally do individual and tricky modules without ever touching stuff inside the OBS checkout tree | 09:45 |
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| rcg | is there another way to automatically download packages from obs than osc? | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | sources? | 10:01 |
| rcg | yep | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | not that easily, what error do you get? | 10:02 |
| rcg | [Errno 110] Connection timed out: 'https://api.pub.meego.com/source/home:wonko:pa:nexus7:testing/maliit-active?linkrev=base&rev=latest' | 10:02 |
| rcg | sometimes it starts downloading a bit and then fails in between | 10:02 |
| rcg | it's so bad i really cannot checkout even a single package | 10:03 |
| * Stskeeps tries from his server | 10:03 | |
| Stskeeps | i could check it out fine | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | it has to be your network | 10:03 |
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| rcg | hmm what could i check with my network? | 10:04 |
| rcg | i usually have no problems at all when browsing, downloading etc. | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | well, you can try with curl manually | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | curl https://username:pass@api.pub.meego.com/source/home:wonko:pa:nexus7:testing/maliit-active?linkrev=base&rev=latest | 10:04 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: thanks for your help , I will have to leave now, the error is really strange :) | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: np | 10:05 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 10:06 |
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| kulve | "osc co -A https://api.pub.meego.com home:wonko:pa:nexus7:testing/maliit-active" works here without problems | 10:12 |
| Smuli | uleeko yhteiset safkat vai porukalla kppaa? | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | Smuli: sorry, english only channel here :) | 10:13 |
| plfiorini | Stskeeps, GL renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.1, 256 bits) ;) | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | plfiorini: congrats :) | 10:14 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I guess that finnish comment wasn't mentioned to this channel in the first place :) | 10:14 |
| plfiorini | Stskeeps, seems like your patch works fine, now i "just" need to make it work on VirtualBox (it still need drm) anyway thanks | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | plfiorini: should work without drm, this will use shm part of qml compositor | 10:15 |
| plfiorini | Stskeeps, weston doesn't and greenisland brutally crash | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | i thought you didn't use weston, so | 10:16 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, kulve thanks for testing... will try a wired network connection next | 10:17 |
| rcg | btw. sometimes checking out individual packages works | 10:17 |
| plfiorini | i'm looking at the QtCompositor source code to check if it needs some env viariable setup | 10:17 |
| rcg | but then it fails on the next one.. but generally the error rate is astonishingly high | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | well, for qt compositor you'd run it on EGL_PLATFORM=fbdev perhaps | 10:17 |
| rcg | brb | 10:18 |
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| plfiorini | Stskeeps, seems like it crashes on QScreen, seems it's null | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | EGL_PLATFORM=fbdev qml-compositor -platform eglfs | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | is what i use | 10:19 |
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| plfiorini | all right, i'm using -platform kms by default if $DISPLAY is not set ;) | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | might not work on virtualbox ;) | 10:20 |
| plfiorini | probably i need to setup the framebuffer first | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | ah, right, that too | 10:21 |
| kulve | rcg: I tested that osc co command ~10 times and no timeouts | 10:26 |
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| plfiorini | anyway llvmpipe is pretty decent running greenisland on x11 | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | add a few cores and it's easily at 60fps | 10:28 |
| rcg | kulve, thanks.. hmm that's really strange | 10:31 |
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| Stskeeps | rcg: appens on wire too? | 10:32 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, yes | 10:32 |
| rcg | well, lol wtf? ... ping time to cobs is ~170ms while to google.de it is ~16ms | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | google has better servers than us, and it's across the globe? ;) | 10:33 |
| rcg | well, ping to bmo is ~33ms | 10:33 |
| rcg | brb, switching to wlan again | 10:34 |
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| Stskeeps | bmo's in germany, too | 10:34 |
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| Stskeeps | bmo's in germany, too | 10:34 |
| rcg | re | 10:34 |
| rcg | ah, i see | 10:35 |
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| rcg | no wonder cobs was always a little bit slow here.. but so far it worked at least | 10:36 |
| rcg | vim /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/osc/core.py | 10:36 |
| rcg | increase hardcoded timeout | 10:36 |
| rcg | mv /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/osc/core.pyo /root | 10:36 |
| rcg | waiting if that does the trick | 10:37 |
| rcg | shoulda have tried pinging cobs much earlier :/ | 10:37 |
| Bostik | oooookaaayyyy | 10:37 |
| * Bostik just got qtwebkit 5.0.0 linked | 10:37 | |
| Stskeeps | how? | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:37 |
| situ | Bostik: Well done | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | no modifications? | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:38 |
| Bostik | packaging bugs remain, but the binaries themselves should be ready this week | 10:38 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: have a look at modular-qt-specs.git and the latest patches against qtwebkit sources | 10:38 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: I worked around the JSDestructibleObject.h/JSObject.h fatalities by folding the two together and removing the trickery of "declare inline classmethods outside class header" | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | heh | 10:39 |
| Bostik | one of the many things I will just lump into "did not wish to know, did not wish to do" category... | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | i know the feeling | 10:40 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: it also kind of helped that qtwebkit.git sports a v5.0.0 tag since last night | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | i've learnt more about wayland protocol in the last days than i ever wanted to know | 10:41 |
| Bostik | so I suddenly had a really good and known baseline | 10:41 |
| Bostik | ha! | 10:41 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: just keep thinking about it as a library meant for window-manager authors, lot of the weird things make ~sense that way :) | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | i had a more fun experience than that, how to deal with wayland and threading | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:42 |
| Bostik | eeeeeeewwwww | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | in android, buffers get dequeued (allocated) on one thread, and queued (presented) on a different | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | on some gpu drivers | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | which leads to some very fun scenarios | 10:43 |
| Bostik | raw framebuffer/drm access and hidden concurrency bugs, now that's evil | 10:43 |
| CosmoHill | sounds like a merry christmas | 10:43 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: producer/consumer split and threading... sounds a bit like a project I worked on recently... | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | add qt5 threaded opengl on top and we have ourselves a circus | 10:44 |
| Bostik | although that was for audio streaming and voip only | 10:44 |
| Bostik | .,...... | 10:45 |
| Bostik | *ick* | 10:45 |
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| Stskeeps | so yeah, that's how i spent my xmas | 10:46 |
| CosmoHill | and drunk? | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | i wish. | 10:46 |
| CosmoHill | you poor man | 10:47 |
| Bostik | I was | 10:47 |
| Bostik | slightly perhaps, but still happily in the land | 10:47 |
| CosmoHill | I wasn't, in fact i got two presents that I couldn't eat or drink this christmas | 10:47 |
| Bostik | drunk coding works splendidly, had to fix a number of freaky facepalm-quality bugs but most of the code logic was pretty nicely brewed | 10:48 |
| rcg | ok.. even with a timeout value of 800 this fails.. setting to 3000(sic!) | 10:51 |
| rcg | :/ | 10:51 |
| rcg | well, i have the suspicion these timeout values are not really picked up | 10:51 |
| CosmoHill | Bostik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTSCppeFzX4 | 10:53 |
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| Stskeeps | disInstr(arm): unhandled instruction: 0xEEBA7BEF cond=14(0xE) 27:20=235(0xEB) 4:4=0 3:0=15(0xF) | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | ==1524== valgrind: Unrecognised instruction at address 0x49ceea4. | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | ==1524== at 0x49CEEA4: QQuickImage::updatePaintNode(QSGNode*, QQuickItem::UpdatePaintNodeData*) (qquickimage.cpp:628) | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | this is always a good way to start a day | 11:01 |
| Bostik | CosmoHill: :D | 11:01 |
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| Bostik | CosmoHill: althought we should never forget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHnBppccI0o | 11:08 |
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| CosmoHill | lol | 11:10 |
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| rcg | hmm, so do you have any idea how to solve my timeout issue? | 11:23 |
| rcg | so far i tried setting the socket.timout_foo globally | 11:23 |
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| rcg | locally in the method | 11:23 |
| rcg | and passed the timeout parameter to the urlopen call | 11:23 |
| rcg | honestly, it is a little frustrating that simply a longer rtt causes osc to fail that miserably | 11:24 |
| plfiorini | Stskeeps, got greenisland working thanks on vbox :) | 11:25 |
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| rcg | is there maybe some global environment variable or something to override timeout settings? | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | plfiorini: cool | 11:29 |
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| rcg | just in case you have the time, could you test if really the delay is the problem? | 11:32 |
| rcg | tc qdisc add dev wlan0 root netem delay 200ms | 11:33 |
| rcg | this adds an artificial delay of 200 ms to wlan0 | 11:33 |
| kulve | rcg: my ping to my own server is 13ms, to google.fi 50ms and to cobs 203ms. Still osc co works | 11:35 |
| rcg | kulve, hmm i see | 11:35 |
| rcg | i wonder what is causing this... | 11:35 |
| rcg | gotta get my other laptop ready and test with that one | 11:36 |
| rcg | just need to find the box where it is in... | 11:36 |
| rcg | everything else wrt internet works nicely... streaming, http, irc, email, etc.. it's just osc which refuses to work | 11:38 |
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| rcg | i wonder if i could have missed something else? | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | there is something awkward goign on with the TCP connections to *.meego.com | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | i've never been able to figure out what it is | 11:41 |
| kulve | what kind of awkward? | 11:43 |
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| lbt | oh yipee - cfe still busted | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | as in, connections that time out, when dealing with some tcp implementations | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | or the weird throttling that goes on there at times | 11:46 |
| lbt | build.merproject.org | 11:46 |
| lbt | Thu Dec 27 11:46:46 2012] [error] [client 78.32.229.233] proxy: Error reading from remote server returned by /error/HTTP_BAD_GATEWAY.html.var, referer: https://build.merproject.org/monitor | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, we're discussing odd issues with meego cobs | 11:47 |
| lbt | ok - but bmo is fully down | 11:47 |
| rcg | hmm i see... well what just comes to my mind is that i am now also getting ipv6 addresses (at least locally) here | 11:48 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: :nod: | 11:50 |
| lbt | apache doesn't log when things *hit* it, it logs 5 mins later when it times out | 11:50 |
| * lbt sits here and glares hatefully at infra | 11:51 | |
| lbt | I promised Denise to play with SDK+QML today :/ | 11:51 |
| lbt | can we use OE ? | 11:52 |
| * CosmoHill smiles cos his script works again | 11:53 | |
| * CosmoHill stops smiling as errors fly across hi screen | 11:53 | |
| Bostik | lbt: that apache delay-event-logging has been a bitch, and the few occasions I've had to deal with it I've bitten the bullet and dug out the faithful tcpdump+wireshark pair | 11:54 |
| Bostik | it's a major PITA but at least that way I get to see exactly what goes on | 11:55 |
| lbt | Bostik: gee thanks - that makes me feel *so* much better *g* | 11:55 |
| lbt | Bostik: do you happen to know what kind of MPM you use ? event or worker? | 11:56 |
| Bostik | lbt: in production setups I've used worker, the event-based apache wasn't in too good a shape the last time I had to deal with it | 11:57 |
| Bostik | "cut down workers, cut down worker lifetimes, see where the bug hits *this* time" | 11:58 |
| lbt | right - I was on event a bit yesterday but found that passenger doesn't support it until the next release - pretty damn silly since fastcgi has been around since '98 | 11:58 |
| kulve | rcg: just some wild ideas: try to decrease the MTU? | 11:59 |
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| Bostik | lbt: a word of warning - if there's any kind of SSL accelerator or other kind of terminating gateway, the problems can be hideous ;) | 12:01 |
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| lbt | yeah, we kinda have to do that | 12:02 |
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| Bostik | ow | 12:04 |
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| rcg | bbl | 12:22 |
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| rcg | well, was experimenting quite a bit | 12:28 |
| rcg | so i might have missed some messages | 12:28 |
| rcg | but i think i narrowed the problem down | 12:28 |
| rcg | seems to be my new isp :/ | 12:28 |
| rcg | or something with the way i am now connected to the internet | 12:28 |
| rcg | am currently connected via my cellphone provider and so far checking things out works smoothly | 12:29 |
| rcg | will investigate in more detail later | 12:29 |
| kulve | rcg: try with smaller mtu? | 12:30 |
| rcg | but so far thanks a lot for all the help to pinpoint the problem | 12:30 |
| rcg | kulve, yeah i did | 12:31 |
| kulve | ok | 12:31 |
| rcg | apparently you didn't get my message that i did :) | 12:31 |
| kulve | I think I didn't.. | 12:31 |
| rcg | also tried to switch dns to google and disabled dns for ipv6 | 12:31 |
| rcg | will look into this more thoroughly later | 12:32 |
| rcg | now i gotta got to the hardware store | 12:33 |
| rcg | and it looks like that my cellphone internet connection is about to die as well :/ | 12:33 |
| rcg | and thanks again :) | 12:35 |
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| Bostik | argh, packaging typo | 13:00 |
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| rcg | re | 13:47 |
| rcg | finally, looks like i solved the issue | 13:47 |
| rcg | the new cable modem/router has some security "feature" that seems to have caused the problem :/ | 13:48 |
| Bostik | rcg: that's an annoingly familiar state of affairs | 13:50 |
| rcg | it's situations like this that make you feel at first very stupid, then angry, and then stupid again | 13:50 |
| rcg | they claim it to be some kind of "stateful firewall".. apparently it works more like some fuzzy logic that decided to randomly sabotage osc in funky ways | 13:53 |
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| Stskeeps | ah | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 13:55 |
| rcg | hmmz.. grml.. nope.. same error again :/ | 13:55 |
| rcg | first 5 packages worked and then it starts to fail again... | 13:56 |
| Bostik | rcg: it's even less funny when the network device sabotaging your connections is the edge router for which you have *absolutely no control* at all | 13:57 |
| Bostik | been there, done that, ... | 13:57 |
| Bostik | (imagine a cisco router, advertised as "ipsec aware", silently and stubbornly "fixing" your non-cisco originated ipsec traffic) | 13:58 |
| rcg | Bostik, ouch, sounds bad | 13:59 |
| rcg | i don't know if it is a good sign then that the cable modem has printed "cisco" on it | 14:00 |
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| rcg | am right now disabling all "features" i can find | 14:00 |
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| Bostik | rcg: it was bad indeed, and it was back in 2004/2005; since then I understand cisco routers at least could be set to a sensible default regarding ipsec - "DO NOT TOUCH" | 14:01 |
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| rcg | looks like it attempts to establish a tcp connection from my side but it doesn't get a response | 14:28 |
| rcg | in wireshark i can see quite some [syn] but am missing the according [syn,ack] | 14:30 |
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| lbt | rcg: where to ? | 14:36 |
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| Stskeeps | did anybody here ever play with 'perf'? | 14:38 |
| rcg | lbt, build.pub.meego.com | 14:40 |
| rcg | more particularly api.pub.meego.com as i am using osc | 14:40 |
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| rcg | but both resolve to the same ip anyhow | 14:41 |
| rcg | lbt, am fighting the timeout issue at cobs@meego right now | 14:41 |
| rcg | looks like my isp is the culprit | 14:42 |
| rcg | when using the 3g connection via my cellphone everything works like a charm | 14:42 |
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| rcg | right now it worked some time and then the suddenly the initial syn's are not replied anymore | 14:50 |
| rcg | so i see some re-transmitted syns and finally it gives up sending rst's | 14:50 |
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| rcg | the interesting thing is that i can ping the cobs without problems | 14:57 |
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| rcg | so the routing in general works | 14:57 |
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| Bostik | rcg: if you're curious, it's always possible to run a 'traceroute -T' and see which hop actually breaks | 15:01 |
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| rcg | Bostik, thanks, but icmp works fine | 15:05 |
| rcg | it's just tcp that fails. and it "only" fails sometimes | 15:05 |
| rcg | i guess that's my biggest issue right now, that it randomly fails for no apparent reason | 15:06 |
| Bostik | rcg: exactly, '-T' is for TCP SYN :) | 15:06 |
| rcg | which makes it a real pain to debug | 15:06 |
| rcg | Bostik, aye i see :) | 15:06 |
| rcg | i'll let it run in a loop... | 15:07 |
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| rcg | is the cobs using some funky load balancing or something? | 15:09 |
| rcg | that could possibly cause things failing sometimes? | 15:09 |
| rcg | but it has to be something my isp is not handling properly | 15:10 |
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| rcg | brb | 15:17 |
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| rcg | re | 15:21 |
| rcg | now connected via university vpn | 15:21 |
| rcg | so far things look better | 15:21 |
| * rcg curses his isp | 15:22 | |
| Bostik | pubworker04 finished "build qtwebkit5.spec" at Thu Dec 27 15:06:49 UTC 2012. code 0 | 15:23 |
| Bostik | \o/ | 15:23 |
| rcg | Bostik, congrats :) | 15:24 |
| rcg | the broken point really seems to somewhere at my isp | 15:25 |
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| rcg | well, this is at least a workaround i can live with | 15:28 |
| rcg | but this was truly painful... | 15:30 |
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| Stskeeps | plfiorini: ping | 16:22 |
| plfiorini | Stskeeps, pong | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | plfiorini: add vt.global_cursor_default=0 - it'll kill the cursor but help a lot | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | to kernel command line | 16:22 |
| plfiorini | Stskeeps, thanks | 16:23 |
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| lbt | in what twisted corner of the universe does :: [DEBUG|#21319] storing file: <binary content of uploaded file> make any sense whatsoever? Then add to that that we routinely upload f'ing big tarballs and all of a sudden debug logging is just useless | 17:20 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: germany, suse hq? | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:21 |
| lbt | ;( | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | anything i can aid with? | 17:22 |
| Bostik | lbt: google universe might be a good fit too | 17:22 |
| Bostik | "sure, we can spare a few petabytes for your project..." | 17:23 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I'm making sensible changes, restarting and then going away for a bit - then when I get back I see if it's dead | 17:24 |
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| lbt | so the default suse VM didn't have exim - does now | 17:24 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: are you doing the changes using puppet? | 17:26 |
| Stskeeps | (i have to ask) | 17:27 |
| lbt | no | 17:27 |
| lbt | I only use puppet to make wide-ranging changes | 17:27 |
| lbt | eg resolv.conf, LAN-wide ntp/smtp/ldap ... that kind of thing | 17:27 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so you're sure it's not fighting your changes? :P | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | just asking :P | 17:28 |
| lbt | yeah, makes sense :) | 17:28 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:28 |
| lbt | I thing api is hanging up on something - the problem is there's no way (AFIK) to say to ruby "give me a ruby-level stack dump on that process" | 17:29 |
| * Stskeeps is learning about performance analysis | 17:33 | |
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| lbt | http://www.google.com/search?q=passenger+not+killing+old+children sometimes google just doesn't understand me.... | 21:25 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: if you're about could you see if cfe is better behaved now ? | 21:49 |
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| lbt | sardinimoi-away: hello (when you're back) :) | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, i can access it, that's a start | 21:51 |
| lbt | hehe | 21:51 |
| lbt | now? | 21:52 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 21:57 |
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| lbt | OK - I've run ab against it and it's seeming to be better | 21:59 |
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