Wednesday, 2012-12-26

Venemoyou were in the army?00:02
rcgyep, just did my basic military service00:03
rcgso nothing spectacular, but you get to know lots of fancy drill instructor sayings00:03
rcgunfortunately i dunno how to translate these properly ;)00:03
Venemofortunately there isn't such a thing anymore in my country, so I don't have to waste my time with the military00:04
rcgwell, i don't consider it wasted time actually, learned quite some useful things there00:05
Venemothat's nice00:05
rcgbut they also canceled mandatory military service here as well in the meantime00:06
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rcgbtw will you be at fosdem in february?00:09
Venemodunno, I'm not planning to go00:09
Venemoshould I?00:09
rcgi see.. dunno.. i am planning to go00:10
rcgalready booked train tickets and hotel00:10
rcgbut i can only stay for two days from saturday to sunday00:10
VenemoI don't know that many people there. I'm also not sure how it would fit my budget00:11
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rcgyeah, that was my concern as well00:11
rcgespecially the budget thing00:11
Venemothe good news is that I got my N950 back00:14
Venemothe bad news is that I don't have any more excuses for not working on Nemo :P00:15
rcgah cool :)00:16
Venemowill need to flash it tomorrow and start hacking00:18
rcghehe, you pick your poison ;)00:18
VenemoI heard there are some news about Qt Creator integration with the Mer SDK? is that right?00:18
rcgdunno, i think i heard something similar but wasn't following very closely00:19
Venemolast time I did it it was very-very hacky00:19
VenemoI think I'll ask Stskeeps about this tomorrow00:19
rcgbtw.. gotta hit the sack00:20
Venemogood night :)00:21
VenemoI'm going to sleep too00:22
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situMorning everyone02:21
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Theorbophinaliumz, is this channel ever active?03:25
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Theorbojoerg - are you involved with openmoko?04:26
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TheorboI meant, Doc04:26
SpeedEvilhe was.04:27
SpeedEvilwrong channel04:27
SpeedEviland open moko is deadder than Nokia.04:28
TheorboI wasn't under the impression openmoko still had life in it04:28
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davidqihi all, I am running QEMU with mer rootfs, met following error:05:06
davidqiEXT2_free_blocks: bit already cleared for block 4096005:06
davidqithen QEMU window become black/blank screen05:06
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davidqithe login service is started05:07
davidqiwho can help on this05:07
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zengweitottyhi, can any one help me? how can i install ofono on my s3c6410 board.I have command "yum" or "apt-get",yet I have not find any ofono's rpm package?06:33
zengweitottycould any one can help me06:42
Stskeepszengweitotty: 'zypper'07:05
Stskeepsand ofono might even be preinstalled07:05
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zengweitottyStskeeps: and I could not find ifconfig in my system PATH07:26
Stskeepszengweitotty: install net-tools in %packages in .ks07:26
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zengweitottyStskeeps: have any other general packages?07:44
Stskeepsvim's always handy07:45
zengweitottyI want to know are there any packages I could write in .ks07:47
Stskeepssure, plenty - entire mer core :)07:49
Stskeepsit's up to you what you want to add07:49
Stskeepsofono and ofono-tests is probably a good idea07:49
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zengweitotty1Stskeeps:how do I install entire mer core with mer-core-armv6l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks07:54
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Stskeepszengweitotty1: generally you don't want to include everything, just add packages you actually need07:57
Stskeepszengweitotty1: @Mer Connectivity07:57
Stskeepsin %packages gets you ofono/connman/etc07:57
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kulveb.m.o down again?08:49
Stskeeps[Tue Dec 25 19:38:50 2012] [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting08:50
kulvea different problem this time..? Or just an error for the same issue?08:51
Stskeepssame error i think08:52
* Stskeeps restarts08:53
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zengweitottystskeeps:could you tell me  how can I configuration ofono,I can not see modem.c in /etc/ofono09:00
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Stskeepszengweitotty: , KERNEL=="ttySAC3", ENV{OFONO_DRIVER}="atmodem"09:02
Stskeepszengweitotty: you make a udev rule file and add the KERNEL=stuff there09:02
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zengweitottyStskeeps:thank you09:06
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davidqiStskeeps: my QEMU can now display the booting logs.. the current console is ttyAMA009:17
davidqiStskeeps: but now QEMU is hanged at "[OK] Reached target Graphical interface"09:18
davidqithanks for your previous reminding09:18
Stskeepsdavidqi: what .ks are you basing on?09:19
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davidqithe standard one09:19
Stskeepsdavidqi: is there a framebuffer included in the qemu kernel configuration?09:20
davidqiI have not noticed that, which config?09:20
Stskeepswell, i don't remember what it's like for versatile09:21
Stskeepsworlddominationplans Documents projects09:22
dm8tbrrsync worlddominationplans -rd
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davidqiCONFIG_FB=y is set , I will check other configurations09:25
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zengweitottyStskeeps:I vim a file in /etc/udev/rule.d/ofono.rules writes KERNEL=="ttySAC3", ENV{OFONO_DRIVER}="atmodem"09:25
zengweitottyis there Ok for me?09:25
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Stskeepsgive it a try, yeah09:30
Stskeepsand then reboot, /usr/lib/ofono/tests/list-modems09:30
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Stskeepslbt: [Tue Dec 25 19:38:50 2012] [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting09:53
dm8tbrdo you have some very long running queries/connections?09:54
lbtyeah, I lowered it09:54
Stskeepslbt: and then it stalled again09:54
lbtto prevent excess httpd processes09:54
dm8tbrotherwise check for very aggressive spiders09:55
Stskeepsdm8tbr: i'm pondering insane obs'es connecting to it09:55
phaeroncheck netstat or httpd server status for the source of those long running connections09:56
lbtI'll take a look during today - the big difference is the reverse proxying09:56
Stskeepsit's unstable enough to make it problematic, so09:57
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Stskeepsand i wouldn't want the irony of us having an unstable obs09:58
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lbtyeah :D10:00
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dm8tbrStskeeps: I already asked if I should bring back monitoring ;)10:00
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Stskeepsalso, why isn't cfe web being monitored..10:03
davidqiStskeeps: my problem is still there. I have adjusted my .config manually according to the lbt's mer-verify-kernel-config, and then run oldconfig with answering most of the defaults10:04
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Stskeepsdavidqi: unsure, sorry - check perhaps debian's kernel config for the device10:04
davidqiStskeeps: but still my QEMU hangs at "[OK] Reached target Graphical interface"10:04
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Stskeepsdavidqi: console=ttyAMA0 in kernel command line?10:05
Stskeepsadd that10:05
davidqiI am adding ...10:06
davidqithis time, QEMU window is black/blank screen10:06
davidqido you think , I should try ttyS0?10:06
Stskeepsno, console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 -- and show me the qemu command line10:07
davidqisudo qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -kernel ./zImageLatest -append "root=/dev/nfs init=/sbin/init console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 nfsroot=$host_ip:/work/arm/merrootfs rw ip=dhcp" -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=./qemu-ifup.sh10:09
Stskeepsand -erial stdio ?10:09
Stskeeps-serial stdio10:09
davidqi-serial stdio is still needed?10:09
Stskeepsyes, now you have a serial port10:09
davidqiI run QEMU with local image file, and with -serial stdio10:09
davidqiok, let me try10:10
Stskeepsjust add serial stdio :)10:10
davidqisudo qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -kernel ./zImageLatest -append "root=/dev/nfs init=/sbin/init console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 nfsroot=$host_ip:/work/arm/merrootfs rw ip=dhcp" -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=./ serial stdio10:10
davidqilike above?10:10
davidqiI am now need to login10:11
davidqiwhat is the username? passwd?10:11
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davidqinow, it says "192 login:" in my terminal, rather than QEMU window10:12
davidqinow I logged in10:13
Stskeepsps aux | grep Xorg10:13
davidqibut strange10:13
davidqinothing is running10:13
Stskeepsok, Xorg -noreset &10:13
StskeepsDISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer10:13
davidqiroot       131  0.0  0.2   2256   540 ttyAMA0  S+   00:02   0:00 grep Xorg10:13
Stskeepsdoes it show anything on screen?10:13
davidqiwhich ?10:14
davidqiwhcih command?10:14
StskeepsXorg -noreset &10:14
StskeepsDISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer10:14
Stskeepsthose two10:14
davidqiXorg -noreset & ====> something is happening10:14
davidqiLoading extension GLX10:14
davidqivgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device10:15
Stskeepsanything about (EE)?10:15
davidqiI have no chance to exec 'DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer'10:15
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Stskeepsdid you remember to add the "&" in the end?10:15
davidqiXorg -noreset & has not finished10:16
davidqiI am not sure10:16
Stskeepspress enter? does it show a prompt?10:16
Stskeepsif not, reboot the qemu and try again :)10:16
davidqiit is strange, when I run 'Xorg -noreset &', I got '[1] 109', and I am back to command line, but suddenly lines of lines notifications come to the screen10:18
Stskeepsthat's fine10:19
Stskeepsit's Xorg running in background10:19
Stskeepsthat's what the '&' does10:19
Stskeepsnow try DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer10:19
Stskeepsdoes it show anything on the qemu screen?10:19
davidqiand now it hangs at 'vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device', I am now not in command line, can not run DISPLAY=:0 ...10:19
davidqiQEMU window is always black/blank screen10:20
Stskeepsok, reboot, does ls -al /dev/fb0 show a file?10:20
davidqilet me reboot10:20
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davidqiit is C 29 010:21
davidqiit belongs root:video10:22
davidqistrange group name10:22
Stskeepsnah, that's fine10:22
Stskeepscat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?10:22
davidqifine ?:)10:22
davidqimany contents10:23
Stskeepsok, put it on pastie.org10:23
davidqiseems very large10:24
davidqiI can only paste the end part10:24
Stskeepsok, that's fine10:24
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Stskeepsok, i need something higher up than that10:25
rcgis there already an rfkill package? i couldn't find one so far10:27
rcgif not, i'll add it10:27
Stskeepsdavidqi: ps aux | grep uxlaunch10:29
Stskeepsand systemctl status uxlaunch.service10:30
Stskeepslbt: is prerelease in cobs?10:30
davidqinothing for the uxlaunch10:31
davidqiuxlaunch.service - UX launcher10:31
davidqi  Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/uxlaunch.service; disabled)10:31
davidqi  Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:10:11 +0000; 4s ago10:31
davidqi Process: 224 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/uxlaunch (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)10:31
davidqi  CGroup: name=systemd:/system/uxlaunch.service10:31
Stskeepsok, so, systemctl stop uxlaunch.service10:32
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Stskeepsand type exactly this: Xorg -noreset & DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer10:33
Stskeepsin one line10:33
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Stskeepsand take a look at the qemu screen10:33
davidqiXorg -noreset & DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer     or               Xorg -noreset && DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer10:33
rcgb.m.o down again?10:34
Stskeepsone &10:34
Stskeepsrcg: lbt's investigating10:34
rcgroger that10:34
davidqisomething different10:34
davidqiqt started10:34
Stskeepsdavidqi: something showing?10:34
Stskeepsdavidqi: rpm -qa | grep setuid10:35
davidqithanks thanks thanks10:35
Stskeepswe're not done yet10:35
davidqibut where to execute?10:35
Stskeepsreboot vm, i guess10:35
davidqiresult is 'xorg-x11-server-Xorg-setuid-1.13.0-1.11.armv6l'10:37
Stskeepsls -al /usr/bin/Xorg10:39
davidqiI just need to reboot now10:40
lbtone problem is that the logs are full of errors/warnings when it runs fine10:40
Stskeepsdavidqi: show me output of: ls -al /usr/bin/Xorg10:41
davidqilog file can affect the booting?10:41
lbtso it's really hard to look back and correlate to "bad shit happened a while ago"10:41
Stskeepsdavidqi: we're talking about something else10:41
lbtdavidqi: not you10:41
davidqi-rwx--x--x 1 mer root 1873648 Nov 26  2012 /usr/bin/Xorg10:42
lbtStskeeps: oh, yes, pre-rel is in cobs, email sent, all seemed tidy10:42
Stskeepsdavidqi: ok, so what's going on is that when you moved your file system from when it was produced in mer, to where you have NFS, /usr/bin/Xorg lost it's chmod +s10:42
Stskeepsdavidqi: setuid attribute10:42
Stskeepsdavidqi: please review your way of copying the filesystem, i can recommend rsync -aHx instead10:43
Stskeepslbt: ok10:43
StskeepsSage: ^10:43
lbtStskeeps: do you have anything that triggers a problem on cfe ?10:44
davidqio... I just use 'cp -fr' to copy my root file system after mer building10:44
Stskeepslbt: no, it happens when i'm not looking10:45
Stskeepsdavidqi: you might want 'cp -a' instead too10:45
Stskeepslbt: check company e-mail btw10:45
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davidqiI will try. Really thanks Stskeeps. I will have to go, see you10:46
Stskeepshave a good day10:46
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rcgare there issues with the cobs@meego?11:08
rcgtrying to checkout things via osc results in [Errno 110] Connection timed out: ''11:08
rcgor is just my osc setup broken?11:09
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lbtrcg: seeing that on mer cobs too11:16
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rcglbt, any idea how to workaround this?11:18
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lbtrcg: still happening ?11:38
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kulveb.m.o down again12:17
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lbtkulve: yeah - looking at it - no idea why it started happening today12:28
kulveis this some new thing? Hasn't it been having troubles for awhile now..?12:29
lbtI also have no mechanism to test it - so any changes I make can't be verified12:29
lbtkulve: not afaik12:29
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Stskeepslbt, been happening for a few days12:42
Stskeepsnow significantly more often12:42
lbtjust wondering why12:42
Stskeepsafter you adjusted maxclients12:42
lbtOK, I can revert that - but I think there's an underlying issue12:42
phaeronlbt: where are the connections coming from ?12:43
lbtI don't know12:43
lbtI'm not a web infra guy :)12:43
phaeronnginx  log should say :)12:43
lbtit would if we used nginx - we use apache12:44
lbtI am installing nginx on the reverse proxy as we speak12:44
lbtISTR you mentioning it before12:44
* Bostik wouldn't be surprised if problems stemmed from overcommitted vm host12:44
lbtBostik: no, I control the phost12:45
lbtit's practically dedicated12:45
Bostikso it's not that either, then12:45
lbtphaeron:  "Note that when using the HTTP Proxy Module (or even when using FastCGI), the entire client request will be buffered in nginx before being passed on to the backend proxied servers"12:46
Venemohey guys12:47
VenemoStskeeps: ping12:47
Venemowhat's up with the Qt Creator integration of the Mer SDK? I recall there were some news about it but I dunno what's up with the stuff12:50
Stskeepsask lbt12:50
Stskeepshe's debugging mer cobs atm though12:50
Venemolbt: you are being asked12:51
lbtVenemo: that's a bit vage12:51
Venemolbt: what's up with Qt Creator - Mer SDK integration?12:52
Venemolast time I checked, I had to create some scripts which called into the chroot environment somehow and make Qt Creator use those12:52
lbtit doesn't support chroot atm12:52
lbtit does vbox vm stuff12:52
lbtso you need
lbtchroot is in the design side - but I'm working on vbox side first12:53
Venemoand is this still the same SDK that we used back in september?12:54
Venemocould I still use the same scripts then?12:55
* Venemo prefers not to use virtual machines when there is a choice of not using them12:55
lbtyes - by "not supported" it means "I'd love your help on it but don't nag me if you can't make it work" :)12:55
lbtoh, me too12:56
lbtI really would appreciate the help to make it work12:56
Venemoso far the MADDE approach was my favourite12:56
lbtyeah, that's dead12:56
lbtMADDE requires a lot of support for each target OS variant12:57
Venemothese were the scripts:
lbtthat's old12:57
VenemoI know12:57
Venemothat's why I asked12:57
lbtthere's links to source in the page iirc12:57
lbtso anyhow - cobs is sick so I need to get on with that12:58
lbtI suggest getting the vbox approach working12:58
Venemobut would these scripts still work?12:58
lbtthen you can replicate it using chroot12:58
lbtby old I also mean unused and therefore untested and so I just don't know12:59
lbtbut they're certainly not a good place to start from12:59
Venemowhy not?12:59
lbtthey're old and unused12:59
lbtI suggest getting the vbox approach working12:59
lbtthat uses ssh scripts to call make/qmake etc13:00
lbtthat ssh call should be replaced with a "chroot exec" statement13:00
lbtthat's already in the next (rolling) SDK/Tools13:01
Venemowhere can I get it?13:01
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Venemoalso, where can I get the Qt Creator plugin? and would it work with the newest Qt Creator? (2.6.1)13:02
lbt[26/12/2012 13:02] <Venemo> where can I get it?    ?13:04
Venemo[14:01:14] <lbt> that's already in the next (rolling) SDK/Tools <-- this13:04
lbtah :)   that's just the platform SDK13:05
lbtwe're working on QtCreator on git  near HEAD so very, very bleeding edge13:06
Venemois this a fork of qtcreator?13:06
lbta branch13:06
lbtit should go upstream before the next release13:06
lbtjolla are getting lots of it done by Digia13:07
VenemoI see13:07
lbtStskeeps: we were on pre-fork apache - I switched to event worker since we're not using a mod_13:08
lbtVenemo: yeah, sorry for not beng chatty, a bit busy - hope that's useful though13:08
Venemocan I just compile the Mer plugin for my already installed version? or just add the Mer SDK as a "kit" in it?13:08
lbtno, you need to replace it13:08
VenemoI already have two qt creator versions installed, do I really need a third one?13:09
lbtplugins are source level I think13:09
lbtwell, that depends, do either of them track the Mer plugin source branch?13:09
Venemowhat does the plugin do that I can't just configure through the GUI?13:09
Venemoobviously not13:10
lbtso does that answer your question about a 3rd one?13:10
Venemoyep, pretty much13:10
lbtof course, since we're tracking HEAD, it should replace your other 2 - unless they're closed in some way?13:11
Venemothe only thing that I don't know yet is what does it do that I can't just configure through the qtcreator settings GUI?13:11
lbtyeah, I don't have time for a feature/source code walkthrough, sorry13:11
Venemoall right13:12
lbtmainly kit support13:12
Venemowell, that doesn't mean anything to me13:12
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lbtOK, nm then13:12
Venemoallright then13:12
Venemothanks for the discussion :)13:12
phaeronlbt: yeah it works nevertherless13:12
lbtphaeron: so you caught that I switched to -event ?13:13
phaeronlbt: and buffers to disk in case the memory buffer is small13:13
lbtyeah, I worry about uploads13:13
phaeronset buffer small and it will create temporary caches on disk13:13
lbtand as we move to git-backed obs sources...13:14
lbtVenemo: np - maybe check back in a couple of weeks when we have more docs wrtten13:14
Venemolbt: I've just checked back after a couple of months.13:15
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lbtVenemo: well, the direction moved a little - more about multiplatform support13:15
phaeronlbt: those are downloads not uploads13:16
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lbtno, I mean as we use git-backed stuff we won't upload silly Qt tarballs and the like13:16
lbtwell, it actually feels a lot quicker here13:17
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Venemois this the latest SDK?
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lbtlatest tarball, needs updating after a download13:20
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kulvercg: so, is the video playback now working e.g. in the PA desktop (there's the video ready for playback right after flashing it)?13:46
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello :)14:23
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rcgkulve, i wanted to update the sample-media package such that it uses mp4 files instead of ogv14:44
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rcgat least for the nexus 7 version14:45
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rcglbt, i still get the error here14:46
rcgnow it doesn't throw the error right from the beginning but after downloading some files14:46
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kulvercg: good point15:16
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shmerlHi! I have a problem with setting up Mer SDK with plasaactive rootfs used for Nexus 7:
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shmerlWhen I do 'sb2 -t plasmaactive-nexus7 -m sdk-install -R zypper refresh' it says: Cant open /var/run/zypp.pid15:29
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shmerlAh, found a note about it:15:30
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shmerlI still get a problem with updating the target though:
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rcgkulve, btw i noticed some instability, i.e., from time to time the system freezes and i need to reboot16:54
rcgdid you also encounter this yet?16:54
shmerlrcg: Hi. Did you try to set up the SDK with pa / nexus 7 rootfs?16:55
rcgshmerl, not yet16:55
rcgso far i am just using the nemomobile sdk16:56
shmerlI had some issue with running zypper update there:
shmerlFor some reason it complains about the architecture (with nemo I had no problems)16:56
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shmerlI updated some instructions here:
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rcgshmerl, cat /srv/mer/targets/n950rootfs/etc/zypp/zypp.conf17:01
rcgadjust to your setup17:01
rcgi.e., replace n950rootfs with the pa thing17:01
rcgand look if you have "arch = armv7hl" in there17:02
rcgor grep for arch or so17:02
shmerlThe only not commented line there is: arch = armv7hl17:03
shmerlFile: /srv/mer/targets/plasmaactive-nexus7-rootfs/etc/zypp/zypp.conf17:03
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shmerlY.e. except [main] section that is.17:03
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rcghmm that looks good17:04
shmerlMay be it falls through to core arch?17:04
shmerlI.e. Mer SDK itself (which is i486)17:04
shmerlI.e. something is messed up about sb217:05
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rcg /srv/mer/targets/n950rootfs/etc/rpm/platform17:07
rcgwhat does this say?17:08
rcgi.e. for your plasma active target17:08
shmerlThat file is missing.17:09
rcgecho -n "armv7hl-meego-linux" > into this17:09
rcgand try if it fixes the issue17:09
shmerlYeah, that's better.17:10
shmerlI wonder if it was some glitch, or it'll happen every time.17:10
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shmerlI can add that to the wiki17:11
rcgwhat i take from reading the guide in the wiki this needs to be done always when setting up the target17:11
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rcgbut adding this to the pa guide would be also good i think :)17:12
shmerlAh, that must be recent. I installed Nemo target before it came up probably17:12
shmerlOr I just forgot about it.17:13
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shmerlI'll add a note to look up issues in the mer-core target, since they seems to be generic.17:14
shmerlbtw, mobile okular crash is a known bug:
MerbotKDE bug 308240 in Applications "active-documentviewer crashes by using zoom gestures" [Crash,Confirmed]17:19
rcgi see, good to know it's being worked on :)17:20
shmerlThere quite a lot of usability issues, but I'm not sure where to report them.17:22
shmerlLike "File" application being very confusing and not working properly17:22
shmerlI.e. "Files"17:22
shmerlSince these are more enhancements, not really bugs.17:23
rcgi consider everything (or at least the vast majority) related to usability pa/kde issues17:23
shmerlYeah, I mean would they read if I file KDE bugs?17:23
shmerlThey usually ignore requests for enhancements.17:24
rcghmm.. dunno about their policy with respect to that17:24
rcgmaybe give it a try and try to nicely ask them if there are plans/ways to improve it17:25
shmerlThey pay attention to bugs, but other stuff - usually not. For example:
MerbotKDE bug 293943 in widget-taskbar "Make the duration/frequency of flashing for the Urgent hint configurable in Task Manager" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]17:25
shmerlOK, I can try asking aseigo what's the best approach.17:25
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rcgwell, afaik they are also very limited with respect to people working on this. so i wouldn't feel too sad if such enhancement requests are not picked up right away17:26
rcgfor me it is a positive sign that they don't close it as wontfix or invalid or something17:27
rcgso i take it as a "free to take by anybody who wants to fix/add feature <foo>" ;)17:27
shmerlBut with "Files" it borders on the bug. I couldn't even figure out how to go one level up in directories. Or how to copy a file or to move it to some other place.17:27
shmerlI.e. such file manager is crippled IMO.17:28
shmerlThey can say use "Dolphin" but it has its own issues.17:28
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shmerlIt's not working well with touch gestures.17:28
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shmerlI.e. it expects right clicks I think.17:28
rcgwell, i understand both sides.. the devs and the users, while the time of each dev is very limited users may get quickly frustrated by "non-optimally working" software17:29
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shmerlI.e. terminal is all fine, (even though I'd like to build mc for pa), but regular user won't use terminal to move files.17:30
rcgi think it is important to have reports of things not working optimally, on the other side we somehow also need to communicate to users that they (usually?) cannot expect issues being fixed within hours or days17:31
shmerlSo file manager is really one of the core key components.17:31
shmerlRight. I just want to know that they somehow digest this feedback. I don't really expect them to fix all that instantly.17:32
rcgwell, the hope is still there that we get more devs working on this when things like pa are becoming available on more devices17:33
rcgso from my perspective every added hw-adaptation is a win for the entire open source effort17:34
shmerlSure, that's a huge progress. Before that there virtually were no devices where it could run decently at all :)17:34
rcgand thanks to the way mer is designed different projects like pa, nemo, etc. all benefit from these hw-adaptations17:34
Artoxis there some magic to using osc in mersdk?17:35
ArtoxServer returned an error: HTTP Error 401: basic auth failed17:35
Stskeepsdo you have a login to a obs?17:35
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Artoxbut I will read the OBS wiki page now first17:36
rcgArtox, keep an eye open for .oscrc when you do that ;)17:37
rcgshmerl, the hope is that we will see more open devices in the future ;)17:38
rcgpersonally, i started with pa on an archos g917:38
shmerlHope so.17:38
Artoxworked fine, .obsrc did the trick17:39
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zappahey all, my n900 finally died.  I need to get a new phone, other than the N9 what phones will have a good shot of loading up mer or what chipsets whould i look for in the phones.17:41
shmerlzappa: N9 is still pricy. N900 you can get cheaper on e-bay. Otherwise I'd wait for Jolla's one.17:42
Artoxzappa: get a GTA04 xD(though its kinda impossible to receive it before march)17:43
Artoxanyway I guess there is some amgic to check out git repositories autoamtically on OBS?17:43
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zappamight get a cheap evo 3d for 150 and wait for jolla I suppose17:44
shmerlIs yasm available somewhere in mer repos? I remember lbt mentioning that it is, but zypper can't find it.17:44
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rcglol, alright, do not turn the screen brightness on nexus 7 to 0%17:47
rcgit really means 0% :D17:47
rcgas in black screen17:48
shmerlHehe. It should have voice control to turn it back up.17:48
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shmerlWhat changes in sb2 when you use -m sdk-install?17:52
shmerlI.e. when exactly that should be used and when it's not needed?17:52
Stskeepsonly use it when you need to install into non-/home17:52
shmerlOK. So for make install it should be used.17:53
shmerlBut for just make - no point?17:53
shmerlOr it only affects rpm/zypper?17:53
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Stskeepsfor any kind of installation outside /home, -R -m sdk-install17:56
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plfioriniStskeeps, does work for you?18:11
Stskeepswe are debugging what's wrong with it18:12
Stskeepsit runs out of httpds to serve requests with18:12
Stskeepswhich is kinda awkward18:12
lbtstill a problem?18:13
Stskeepsseems so18:14
kulvercg: I haven't tested it enouhg to notice any stability issues yet18:14
kulvercg: does the brightness work between 10-90%?18:14
lbtplfiorini: are you having issues now?18:15
Stskeepslbt: i'm having problems18:16
Stskeepscan't access18:16
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kulveshmerl: thanks for updateing the TODO/bug list18:17
plfiorinilbt, yep it's still spinning and not loading the page18:18
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shmerlkulve: No problem. It'll probably grow more :)18:19
lbtmachine is fully idle FWIW18:19
plfioriniin the meanwhile i'm going to grab a kebab18:20
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CosmoHillmerry boxing day18:39
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SfietKonstantinStskeeps: is that normal that qmlscene in Mer says that "module QtQuick is not installed" ? :S18:51
SfietKonstantinhum ...18:53
SfietKonstantin /usr/lib/qt5/imports is empty18:53
SfietKonstantinmaybe because of a problem in the interface between the chair and the keyboard18:53
Stskeepsnah not really18:54
Stskeepsjust you need to install some things18:54
SfietKonstantinyeah, I just find out18:55
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SfietKonstantinQt5 is chopped in fine slices in Mer18:55
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Bostikthe individual imports in particular are packaged as finegrained as I could manage18:59
slummeri followed the instructions at and all went well up to "Once installed go to: Tools->Options->Mer->Targets and add the target." When i try to add nemo_n9_min i get "VM is not running!" error19:04
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SfietKonstantinreminds me of something19:10
slummerhmm...i had to change my ~/.ssh/id_rsa to ~/.ssh/mer-qt-creator-rsa19:11
slummernow all is far19:11
lbtStskeeps: I think it's possibly an smtp issue19:21
lbtConnection refused - connect(2)19:27
lbt    /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionmailer-2.3.14/lib/action_mailer/base.rb:715:in `perform_delivery_smtp19:27
Stskeepsok, maybe worth looking at?19:27
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phaeronlbt: I think it wants to send an email to an admin about an error19:32
lbtyeah - it should be working - looking now19:33
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rcgkulve, brightness setting works well, just make sure to not put to 0% ;)19:34
rcgeven 1% is fine19:34
rcgjust the last step to zero turns the backlight completely off19:35
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rcgkulve, wrt brightness, there is an issue that the brightness is reset to 100% whenever the "Screen" settings page is displayed19:42
rcglooks like the brightness setting is not actually saved19:42
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rcgbtw kulve thanks for moving the stuff to the wiki :)19:46
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noriiwould anyone recommend buying the n919:52
Stskeepssure, it's a nice device19:56
suosaaskiBut it is a "work in progress" imo.19:58
Stskeepswell, rather, it'll never be finished19:58
suosaaskiToo many connection issues.19:58
suosaaskiStskeeps: yes, that is probably a better choice of words.19:59
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suosaaskiThe most annoying issue is with facebook (and iirc twitter) clients that sometimes refuse to get online before opening a page with browser, and the same goes for opening some pics in facebook feeds.20:02
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noriiis there anything with a keyboard like the droid3 that would be good to hack on mer and related projects with, in that case?20:03
noriii just about killed myself when they killed the n950 originally20:04
noriiand even there the kb was pretty dismal20:04
noriino pipe key, etc20:04
SpeedEvilwell, that can be remapped20:05
SpeedEvilkinda hard if the only button is the power one20:05
suosaaskiI was sad for both N950 an "lankku" never making it to my pocket :)20:05
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Artoxis there a standard uboot in the Mer repos to use for building kernel?20:12
Artoxsince it inly needs to make a proper uImage anyway20:12
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rcglbt, are you still working on b.m.o?20:52
Stskeepsseems to have broken again20:53
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lbtwtf changed?21:09
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kulvejust more curious people checking the site?21:12
lbtit's not loaded21:16
lbtit's 100% idle21:16
lbtsome backend app is hanging I think21:16
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lbtnow it's working again :/21:19
Venemohey guys :)21:21
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Artox[22:16] <lbt> some backend app is hanging I think21:25
ArtoxI was uploading a source tarball on obs21:25
lbtArtox: how big?21:25
Artoxat very low speed21:26
lbtand have you been trying for the past few days?21:26
ArtoxI did it just the last 25 minutes21:26
lbtOK - worth knowing but probably not the root cause - ty21:26
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rcgthx lbt :)21:40
slummerqt creator is telling me "QMAKESPEC has not been set" do i set that?  My VM is still on the mersdk splash screen21:47
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slummerdo i log in to the VM?21:50
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rcglbt, sorry to bother you once more22:12
rcgis api @bmo up and working?22:13
rcgi'm getting parse errors with osc22:13
rcgcomplaining about some xml stuff22:13
lbtrcg: try now as I watch22:14
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lbtrcg: no obvious errors22:17
lbtsounds more like you're sending invalid XML22:17
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lbtis this a pattern?22:17
rcgthe error message said something about _pattern22:18
rcgbtw i also tried to directly check out a new package22:18
rcgwith the same error22:18
lbtpastie ?22:18
rcgthe first is the update of a project and below is the attempt to directly check a package out22:19
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yuntaslummer: some answers on #jollamobile22:33
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slummeryunta: thanks22:36
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rcglbt, can you draw conclusions from the output?22:42
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lbtrcg: hmm - possibly a corrupt _pattern22:48
lbtphaeron: seen this ^^ ?22:48
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rcglbt, hmm i see22:51
rcgbtw am still getting timeouts on cobs@meego when trying to download packages22:51
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rcguploading via web frontend to bmo seems to fail as well23:03
rcgtried two files, web fronted said upload was successful but the files do not show up in the sources23:04
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rcgis maybe a disk full?23:07
lbtrcg: can you try that again - I just restarted and may have interrupted23:07
lbtwill look at meego cobs tomorrow23:07
rcgalright, the meego cobs issue is not that important to me right now23:09
rcgit's just annoying that it always times out23:10
rcgnope, upload via we ui is not working23:10
rcgbut i'll call it a day for now23:10
rcgdidn't notice it's already past 0:0023:11
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CosmoHillnight night23:35
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