| Venemo | you were in the army? | 00:02 |
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| rcg | yep, just did my basic military service | 00:03 |
| Venemo | ah | 00:03 |
| rcg | so nothing spectacular, but you get to know lots of fancy drill instructor sayings | 00:03 |
| rcg | ;) | 00:03 |
| Venemo | hehe | 00:03 |
| rcg | unfortunately i dunno how to translate these properly ;) | 00:03 |
| Venemo | fortunately there isn't such a thing anymore in my country, so I don't have to waste my time with the military | 00:04 |
| rcg | well, i don't consider it wasted time actually, learned quite some useful things there | 00:05 |
| Venemo | that's nice | 00:05 |
| rcg | but they also canceled mandatory military service here as well in the meantime | 00:06 |
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| Venemo | mhm | 00:08 |
| rcg | btw will you be at fosdem in february? | 00:09 |
| Venemo | dunno, I'm not planning to go | 00:09 |
| Venemo | should I? | 00:09 |
| rcg | i see.. dunno.. i am planning to go | 00:10 |
| rcg | already booked train tickets and hotel | 00:10 |
| rcg | but i can only stay for two days from saturday to sunday | 00:10 |
| Venemo | I don't know that many people there. I'm also not sure how it would fit my budget | 00:11 |
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| rcg | yeah, that was my concern as well | 00:11 |
| rcg | especially the budget thing | 00:11 |
| Venemo | :) | 00:12 |
| Venemo | the good news is that I got my N950 back | 00:14 |
| Venemo | the bad news is that I don't have any more excuses for not working on Nemo :P | 00:15 |
| rcg | ah cool :) | 00:16 |
| Venemo | will need to flash it tomorrow and start hacking | 00:18 |
| rcg | hehe, you pick your poison ;) | 00:18 |
| Venemo | I heard there are some news about Qt Creator integration with the Mer SDK? is that right? | 00:18 |
| rcg | dunno, i think i heard something similar but wasn't following very closely | 00:19 |
| Venemo | last time I did it it was very-very hacky | 00:19 |
| Venemo | I think I'll ask Stskeeps about this tomorrow | 00:19 |
| rcg | right | 00:20 |
| rcg | btw.. gotta hit the sack | 00:20 |
| rcg | bbl | 00:20 |
| Venemo | good night :) | 00:21 |
| Venemo | I'm going to sleep too | 00:22 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 02:21 |
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| Theorbo | phinaliumz, is this channel ever active? | 03:25 |
| phinaliumz | yeah | 03:27 |
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| Theorbo | joerg - are you involved with openmoko? | 04:26 |
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| Theorbo | I meant, Doc | 04:26 |
| SpeedEvil | he was. | 04:27 |
| SpeedEvil | ~joerg | 04:27 |
| SpeedEvil | pH | 04:27 |
| SpeedEvil | oh | 04:27 |
| SpeedEvil | wrong channel | 04:27 |
| SpeedEvil | and open moko is deadder than Nokia. | 04:28 |
| Theorbo | I wasn't under the impression openmoko still had life in it | 04:28 |
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| davidqi | hi all, I am running QEMU with mer rootfs, met following error: | 05:06 |
| davidqi | EXT2_free_blocks: bit already cleared for block 40960 | 05:06 |
| davidqi | then QEMU window become black/blank screen | 05:06 |
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| davidqi | the login service is started | 05:07 |
| davidqi | who can help on this | 05:07 |
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| zengweitotty | hi, can any one help me? how can i install ofono on my s3c6410 board.I have command "yum" or "apt-get",yet I have not find any ofono's rpm package? | 06:33 |
| zengweitotty | could any one can help me | 06:42 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: 'zypper' | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | and ofono might even be preinstalled | 07:05 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: and I could not find ifconfig in my system PATH | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: install net-tools in %packages in .ks | 07:26 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: have any other general packages? | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | vim's always handy | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:45 |
| zengweitotty | I want to know are there any packages I could write in .ks | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | sure, plenty - entire mer core :) | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | it's up to you what you want to add | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | ofono and ofono-tests is probably a good idea | 07:49 |
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| zengweitotty1 | Stskeeps:how do I install entire mer core with mer-core-armv6l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer.ks | 07:54 |
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| Stskeeps | zengweitotty1: generally you don't want to include everything, just add packages you actually need | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty1: @Mer Connectivity | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | in %packages gets you ofono/connman/etc | 07:57 |
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| kulve | b.m.o down again? | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | arr | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | [Tue Dec 25 19:38:50 2012] [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting | 08:50 |
| kulve | a different problem this time..? Or just an error for the same issue? | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | same error i think | 08:52 |
| * Stskeeps restarts | 08:53 | |
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| zengweitotty | stskeeps:could you tell me how can I configuration ofono,I can not see modem.c in /etc/ofono | 09:00 |
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| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: https://ofono.org/wiki/how-enable-modem-ofono , KERNEL=="ttySAC3", ENV{OFONO_DRIVER}="atmodem" | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: you make a udev rule file and add the KERNEL=stuff there | 09:02 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps:thank you | 09:06 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: my QEMU can now display the booting logs.. the current console is ttyAMA0 | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | congratulations | 09:18 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: but now QEMU is hanged at "[OK] Reached target Graphical interface" | 09:18 |
| davidqi | thanks for your previous reminding | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: what .ks are you basing on? | 09:19 |
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| davidqi | mer-core-armv6l-xorg-....ks | 09:19 |
| davidqi | the standard one | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: is there a framebuffer included in the qemu kernel configuration? | 09:20 |
| davidqi | I have not noticed that, which config? | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | well, i don't remember what it's like for versatile | 09:21 |
| dm8tbr | ls | 09:21 |
| dm8tbr | fail | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | worlddominationplans Documents projects | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:22 |
| dm8tbr | rsync worlddominationplans -rd myown.host.com:/tmp | 09:23 |
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| davidqi | CONFIG_FB=y is set , I will check other configurations | 09:25 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps:I vim a file in /etc/udev/rule.d/ofono.rules writes KERNEL=="ttySAC3", ENV{OFONO_DRIVER}="atmodem" | 09:25 |
| zengweitotty | is there Ok for me? | 09:25 |
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| Stskeeps | give it a try, yeah | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | and then reboot, /usr/lib/ofono/tests/list-modems | 09:30 |
| zengweitotty | ok | 09:31 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: [Tue Dec 25 19:38:50 2012] [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting | 09:53 |
| dm8tbr | do you have some very long running queries/connections? | 09:54 |
| lbt | yeah, I lowered it | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: and then it stalled again | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:54 |
| lbt | to prevent excess httpd processes | 09:54 |
| dm8tbr | otherwise check for very aggressive spiders | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: i'm pondering insane obs'es connecting to it | 09:55 |
| phaeron | check netstat or httpd server status for the source of those long running connections | 09:56 |
| lbt | I'll take a look during today - the big difference is the reverse proxying | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | it's unstable enough to make it problematic, so | 09:57 |
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| Stskeeps | and i wouldn't want the irony of us having an unstable obs | 09:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:58 |
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| lbt | yeah :D | 10:00 |
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| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I already asked if I should bring back monitoring ;) | 10:00 |
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| Stskeeps | also, why isn't cfe web being monitored.. | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:03 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: my problem is still there. I have adjusted my .config manually according to the lbt's mer-verify-kernel-config, and then run oldconfig with answering most of the defaults | 10:04 |
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| Stskeeps | davidqi: unsure, sorry - check perhaps debian's kernel config for the device | 10:04 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: but still my QEMU hangs at "[OK] Reached target Graphical interface" | 10:04 |
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| Stskeeps | davidqi: console=ttyAMA0 in kernel command line? | 10:05 |
| davidqi | no | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | add that | 10:05 |
| davidqi | I am adding ... | 10:06 |
| davidqi | this time, QEMU window is black/blank screen | 10:06 |
| davidqi | do you think , I should try ttyS0? | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | no, console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 -- and show me the qemu command line | 10:07 |
| davidqi | sudo qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -kernel ./zImageLatest -append "root=/dev/nfs init=/sbin/init console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 nfsroot=$host_ip:/work/arm/merrootfs rw ip=dhcp" -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=./qemu-ifup.sh | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | and -erial stdio ? | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | err | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | -serial stdio | 10:09 |
| davidqi | -serial stdio is still needed? | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | yes, now you have a serial port | 10:09 |
| davidqi | I run QEMU with local image file, and with -serial stdio | 10:09 |
| davidqi | ok, let me try | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | just add serial stdio :) | 10:10 |
| davidqi | sudo qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -kernel ./zImageLatest -append "root=/dev/nfs init=/sbin/init console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 nfsroot=$host_ip:/work/arm/merrootfs rw ip=dhcp" -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=./qemu-ifup.sh serial stdio | 10:10 |
| davidqi | like above? | 10:10 |
| davidqi | I am now need to login | 10:11 |
| davidqi | what is the username? passwd? | 10:11 |
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| davidqi | now, it says "192 login:" in my terminal, rather than QEMU window | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | root/rootme | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | probably | 10:12 |
| davidqi | yes | 10:13 |
| davidqi | now I logged in | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | ps aux | grep Xorg | 10:13 |
| davidqi | but strange | 10:13 |
| davidqi | nothing is running | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | ok, Xorg -noreset & | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer | 10:13 |
| davidqi | root 131 0.0 0.2 2256 540 ttyAMA0 S+ 00:02 0:00 grep Xorg | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | does it show anything on screen? | 10:13 |
| davidqi | which ? | 10:14 |
| davidqi | whcih command? | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | Xorg -noreset & | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | those two | 10:14 |
| davidqi | Xorg -noreset & ====> something is happening | 10:14 |
| davidqi | Loading extension GLX | 10:14 |
| davidqi | vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | anything about (EE)? | 10:15 |
| davidqi | I have no chance to exec 'DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer' | 10:15 |
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| Stskeeps | did you remember to add the "&" in the end? | 10:15 |
| davidqi | Xorg -noreset & has not finished | 10:16 |
| davidqi | sure | 10:16 |
| davidqi | sorry | 10:16 |
| davidqi | I am not sure | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | press enter? does it show a prompt? | 10:16 |
| Stskeeps | if not, reboot the qemu and try again :) | 10:16 |
| davidqi | OK | 10:16 |
| davidqi | it is strange, when I run 'Xorg -noreset &', I got '[1] 109', and I am back to command line, but suddenly lines of lines notifications come to the screen | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | it's Xorg running in background | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | that's what the '&' does | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | now try DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | does it show anything on the qemu screen? | 10:19 |
| davidqi | and now it hangs at 'vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device', I am now not in command line, can not run DISPLAY=:0 ... | 10:19 |
| davidqi | QEMU window is always black/blank screen | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok, reboot, does ls -al /dev/fb0 show a file? | 10:20 |
| davidqi | let me reboot | 10:20 |
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| davidqi | yes | 10:21 |
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| davidqi | it is C 29 0 | 10:21 |
| davidqi | it belongs root:video | 10:22 |
| davidqi | strange group name | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | nah, that's fine | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? | 10:22 |
| davidqi | fine ?:) | 10:22 |
| davidqi | many contents | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | ok, put it on pastie.org | 10:23 |
| davidqi | ok | 10:23 |
| davidqi | seems very large | 10:24 |
| davidqi | I can only paste the end part | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | ok, that's fine | 10:24 |
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| davidqi | http://pastie.org/5579451 | 10:25 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, i need something higher up than that | 10:25 |
| rcg | is there already an rfkill package? i couldn't find one so far | 10:27 |
| rcg | if not, i'll add it | 10:27 |
| davidqi | http://pastie.org/5579460 | 10:28 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: ps aux | grep uxlaunch | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | and systemctl status uxlaunch.service | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: is prerelease in cobs? | 10:30 |
| davidqi | nothing for the uxlaunch | 10:31 |
| davidqi | uxlaunch.service - UX launcher | 10:31 |
| davidqi | Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/uxlaunch.service; disabled) | 10:31 |
| davidqi | Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:10:11 +0000; 4s ago | 10:31 |
| davidqi | Process: 224 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/uxlaunch (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) | 10:31 |
| davidqi | CGroup: name=systemd:/system/uxlaunch.service | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so, systemctl stop uxlaunch.service | 10:32 |
| davidqi | yes | 10:32 |
| davidqi | completed | 10:32 |
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| Stskeeps | and type exactly this: Xorg -noreset & DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | in one line | 10:33 |
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| Stskeeps | and take a look at the qemu screen | 10:33 |
| davidqi | Xorg -noreset & DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer or Xorg -noreset && DISPLAY=:0 qmlviewer | 10:33 |
| davidqi | ? | 10:33 |
| rcg | b.m.o down again? | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | one & | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: lbt's investigating | 10:34 |
| rcg | roger that | 10:34 |
| davidqi | something different | 10:34 |
| davidqi | haha | 10:34 |
| davidqi | qt started | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: something showing? | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | good | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: rpm -qa | grep setuid | 10:35 |
| davidqi | thanks thanks thanks | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | we're not done yet | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:35 |
| davidqi | but where to execute? | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | reboot vm, i guess | 10:35 |
| davidqi | ok | 10:35 |
| davidqi | result is 'xorg-x11-server-Xorg-setuid-1.13.0-1.11.armv6l' | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | ls -al /usr/bin/Xorg | 10:39 |
| davidqi | I just need to reboot now | 10:40 |
| lbt | one problem is that the logs are full of errors/warnings when it runs fine | 10:40 |
| davidqi | o? | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: show me output of: ls -al /usr/bin/Xorg | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 10:41 |
| davidqi | log file can affect the booting? | 10:41 |
| lbt | so it's really hard to look back and correlate to "bad shit happened a while ago" | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: we're talking about something else | 10:41 |
| lbt | davidqi: not you | 10:41 |
| lbt | sry | 10:41 |
| davidqi | sorry | 10:41 |
| davidqi | -rwx--x--x 1 mer root 1873648 Nov 26 2012 /usr/bin/Xorg | 10:42 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: oh, yes, pre-rel is in cobs, email sent, all seemed tidy | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: ok, so what's going on is that when you moved your file system from when it was produced in mer, to where you have NFS, /usr/bin/Xorg lost it's chmod +s | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: setuid attribute | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: please review your way of copying the filesystem, i can recommend rsync -aHx instead | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ^ | 10:43 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: do you have anything that triggers a problem on cfe ? | 10:44 |
| davidqi | o... I just use 'cp -fr' to copy my root file system after mer building | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: no, it happens when i'm not looking | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: you might want 'cp -a' instead too | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: check company e-mail btw | 10:45 |
| lbt | k | 10:45 |
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| davidqi | I will try. Really thanks Stskeeps. I will have to go, see you | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | have a good day | 10:46 |
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| rcg | are there issues with the cobs@meego? | 11:08 |
| rcg | trying to checkout things via osc results in [Errno 110] Connection timed out: 'https://api.pub.meego.com/source/Project:KDE:Trunk:Testing/akonadi?linkrev=base&rev=latest' | 11:08 |
| rcg | or is just my osc setup broken? | 11:09 |
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| lbt | rcg: seeing that on mer cobs too | 11:16 |
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| rcg | lbt, any idea how to workaround this? | 11:18 |
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| lbt | rcg: still happening ? | 11:38 |
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| kulve | b.m.o down again | 12:17 |
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| lbt | kulve: yeah - looking at it - no idea why it started happening today | 12:28 |
| kulve | is this some new thing? Hasn't it been having troubles for awhile now..? | 12:29 |
| lbt | I also have no mechanism to test it - so any changes I make can't be verified | 12:29 |
| lbt | kulve: not afaik | 12:29 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt, been happening for a few days | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | now significantly more often | 12:42 |
| lbt | just wondering why | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | after you adjusted maxclients | 12:42 |
| lbt | OK, I can revert that - but I think there's an underlying issue | 12:42 |
| phaeron | lbt: where are the connections coming from ? | 12:43 |
| lbt | I don't know | 12:43 |
| lbt | I'm not a web infra guy :) | 12:43 |
| phaeron | nginx log should say :) | 12:43 |
| lbt | it would if we used nginx - we use apache | 12:44 |
| lbt | I am installing nginx on the reverse proxy as we speak | 12:44 |
| lbt | ISTR you mentioning it before | 12:44 |
| * Bostik wouldn't be surprised if problems stemmed from overcommitted vm host | 12:44 | |
| lbt | Bostik: no, I control the phost | 12:45 |
| lbt | it's practically dedicated | 12:45 |
| Bostik | so it's not that either, then | 12:45 |
| lbt | phaeron: http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpProxyModule "Note that when using the HTTP Proxy Module (or even when using FastCGI), the entire client request will be buffered in nginx before being passed on to the backend proxied servers" | 12:46 |
| Venemo | hey guys | 12:47 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps: ping | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | pong | 12:48 |
| Venemo | what's up with the Qt Creator integration of the Mer SDK? I recall there were some news about it but I dunno what's up with the stuff | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | ask lbt | 12:50 |
| Stskeeps | he's debugging mer cobs atm though | 12:50 |
| Venemo | lbt: you are being asked | 12:51 |
| lbt | Venemo: that's a bit vage | 12:51 |
| lbt | u | 12:51 |
| Venemo | lbt: what's up with Qt Creator - Mer SDK integration? | 12:52 |
| Venemo | last time I checked, I had to create some scripts which called into the chroot environment somehow and make Qt Creator use those | 12:52 |
| lbt | it doesn't support chroot atm | 12:52 |
| lbt | it does vbox vm stuff | 12:52 |
| lbt | so you need https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 12:53 |
| lbt | chroot is in the design side - but I'm working on vbox side first | 12:53 |
| Venemo | ouch | 12:53 |
| Venemo | and is this still the same SDK that we used back in september? | 12:54 |
| lbt | yes | 12:55 |
| Venemo | could I still use the same scripts then? | 12:55 |
| * Venemo prefers not to use virtual machines when there is a choice of not using them | 12:55 | |
| lbt | yes - by "not supported" it means "I'd love your help on it but don't nag me if you can't make it work" :) | 12:55 |
| lbt | oh, me too | 12:56 |
| lbt | I really would appreciate the help to make it work | 12:56 |
| Venemo | so far the MADDE approach was my favourite | 12:56 |
| lbt | yeah, that's dead | 12:56 |
| lbt | MADDE requires a lot of support for each target OS variant | 12:57 |
| Venemo | these were the scripts: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/User:Tswindell/Qt_Creator_And_Mer_Integration | 12:57 |
| lbt | that's old | 12:57 |
| Venemo | I know | 12:57 |
| Venemo | that's why I asked | 12:57 |
| lbt | there's links to source in the page iirc | 12:57 |
| lbt | so anyhow - cobs is sick so I need to get on with that | 12:58 |
| Venemo | allright | 12:58 |
| lbt | I suggest getting the vbox approach working | 12:58 |
| Venemo | but would these scripts still work? | 12:58 |
| lbt | then you can replicate it using chroot | 12:58 |
| lbt | by old I also mean unused and therefore untested and so I just don't know | 12:59 |
| Venemo | allright | 12:59 |
| lbt | but they're certainly not a good place to start from | 12:59 |
| Venemo | why not? | 12:59 |
| lbt | they're old and unused | 12:59 |
| lbt | I suggest getting the vbox approach working | 12:59 |
| lbt | that uses ssh scripts to call make/qmake etc | 13:00 |
| lbt | that ssh call should be replaced with a "chroot exec" statement | 13:00 |
| lbt | that's already in the next (rolling) SDK/Tools | 13:01 |
| Venemo | where can I get it? | 13:01 |
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| Venemo | also, where can I get the Qt Creator plugin? and would it work with the newest Qt Creator? (2.6.1) | 13:02 |
| lbt | [26/12/2012 13:02] <Venemo> where can I get it? ? | 13:04 |
| Venemo | [14:01:14] <lbt> that's already in the next (rolling) SDK/Tools <-- this | 13:04 |
| lbt | ah :) that's just the platform SDK | 13:05 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Getting_QtCreator | 13:05 |
| lbt | we're working on QtCreator on git near HEAD so very, very bleeding edge | 13:06 |
| Venemo | is this a fork of qtcreator? | 13:06 |
| lbt | a branch | 13:06 |
| lbt | it should go upstream before the next release | 13:06 |
| lbt | jolla are getting lots of it done by Digia | 13:07 |
| Venemo | I see | 13:07 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: we were on pre-fork apache - I switched to event worker since we're not using a mod_ | 13:08 |
| lbt | Venemo: yeah, sorry for not beng chatty, a bit busy - hope that's useful though | 13:08 |
| Venemo | can I just compile the Mer plugin for my already installed version? or just add the Mer SDK as a "kit" in it? | 13:08 |
| lbt | no, you need to replace it | 13:08 |
| Venemo | I already have two qt creator versions installed, do I really need a third one? | 13:09 |
| lbt | plugins are source level I think | 13:09 |
| lbt | well, that depends, do either of them track the Mer plugin source branch? | 13:09 |
| Venemo | what does the plugin do that I can't just configure through the GUI? | 13:09 |
| Venemo | obviously not | 13:10 |
| lbt | so does that answer your question about a 3rd one? | 13:10 |
| Venemo | yep, pretty much | 13:10 |
| lbt | of course, since we're tracking HEAD, it should replace your other 2 - unless they're closed in some way? | 13:11 |
| Venemo | the only thing that I don't know yet is what does it do that I can't just configure through the qtcreator settings GUI? | 13:11 |
| lbt | yeah, I don't have time for a feature/source code walkthrough, sorry | 13:11 |
| Venemo | all right | 13:12 |
| lbt | mainly kit support | 13:12 |
| Venemo | well, that doesn't mean anything to me | 13:12 |
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| lbt | OK, nm then | 13:12 |
| Venemo | allright then | 13:12 |
| Venemo | thanks for the discussion :) | 13:12 |
| phaeron | lbt: yeah it works nevertherless | 13:12 |
| lbt | phaeron: so you caught that I switched to -event ? | 13:13 |
| phaeron | lbt: and buffers to disk in case the memory buffer is small | 13:13 |
| lbt | yeah, I worry about uploads | 13:13 |
| phaeron | set buffer small and it will create temporary caches on disk | 13:13 |
| lbt | and as we move to git-backed obs sources... | 13:14 |
| lbt | Venemo: np - maybe check back in a couple of weeks when we have more docs wrtten | 13:14 |
| Venemo | lbt: I've just checked back after a couple of months. | 13:15 |
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| lbt | Venemo: well, the direction moved a little - more about multiplatform support | 13:15 |
| phaeron | lbt: those are downloads not uploads | 13:16 |
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| lbt | no, I mean as we use git-backed stuff we won't upload silly Qt tarballs and the like | 13:16 |
| phaeron | yeah | 13:16 |
| lbt | well, it actually feels a lot quicker here | 13:17 |
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| Venemo | is this the latest SDK? https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/mer-sdk-i486-chroot-latest.tar.bz2 | 13:19 |
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| lbt | latest tarball, needs updating after a download | 13:20 |
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| Venemo | ok | 13:21 |
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| kulve | rcg: so, is the video playback now working e.g. in the PA desktop (there's the video ready for playback right after flashing it)? | 13:46 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello :) | 14:23 |
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| rcg | kulve, i wanted to update the sample-media package such that it uses mp4 files instead of ogv | 14:44 |
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| rcg | at least for the nexus 7 version | 14:45 |
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| rcg | lbt, i still get the error here | 14:46 |
| rcg | now it doesn't throw the error right from the beginning but after downloading some files | 14:46 |
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| kulve | rcg: good point | 15:16 |
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| shmerl | Hi! I have a problem with setting up Mer SDK with plasaactive rootfs used for Nexus 7: http://download.kde.org/unstable/active/3.0/images/nexus7/plasma-active-nexus7-testing-mer-latest-2012-12-20.tar.bz2 | 15:28 |
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| shmerl | When I do 'sb2 -t plasmaactive-nexus7 -m sdk-install -R zypper refresh' it says: Cant open /var/run/zypp.pid | 15:29 |
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| shmerl | Ah, found a note about it: | 15:30 |
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| shmerl | I still get a problem with updating the target though: http://pastie.org/5580559 | 15:58 |
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| rcg | kulve, btw i noticed some instability, i.e., from time to time the system freezes and i need to reboot | 16:54 |
| rcg | did you also encounter this yet? | 16:54 |
| shmerl | rcg: Hi. Did you try to set up the SDK with pa / nexus 7 rootfs? | 16:55 |
| rcg | shmerl, not yet | 16:55 |
| rcg | so far i am just using the nemomobile sdk | 16:56 |
| shmerl | I had some issue with running zypper update there: http://pastie.org/5580559 | 16:56 |
| shmerl | For some reason it complains about the architecture (with nemo I had no problems) | 16:56 |
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| shmerl | I updated some instructions here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Plasma_Active | 16:56 |
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| rcg | shmerl, cat /srv/mer/targets/n950rootfs/etc/zypp/zypp.conf | 17:01 |
| rcg | adjust to your setup | 17:01 |
| rcg | i.e., replace n950rootfs with the pa thing | 17:01 |
| rcg | and look if you have "arch = armv7hl" in there | 17:02 |
| rcg | or grep for arch or so | 17:02 |
| shmerl | The only not commented line there is: arch = armv7hl | 17:03 |
| shmerl | File: /srv/mer/targets/plasmaactive-nexus7-rootfs/etc/zypp/zypp.conf | 17:03 |
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| shmerl | Y.e. except [main] section that is. | 17:03 |
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| rcg | hmm that looks good | 17:04 |
| shmerl | May be it falls through to core arch? | 17:04 |
| shmerl | I.e. Mer SDK itself (which is i486) | 17:04 |
| shmerl | I.e. something is messed up about sb2 | 17:05 |
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| rcg | /srv/mer/targets/n950rootfs/etc/rpm/platform | 17:07 |
| rcg | what does this say? | 17:08 |
| rcg | i.e. for your plasma active target | 17:08 |
| shmerl | That file is missing. | 17:09 |
| rcg | echo -n "armv7hl-meego-linux" > into this | 17:09 |
| rcg | and try if it fixes the issue | 17:09 |
| shmerl | Yeah, that's better. | 17:10 |
| shmerl | I wonder if it was some glitch, or it'll happen every time. | 17:10 |
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| rcg | good | 17:11 |
| shmerl | I can add that to the wiki | 17:11 |
| rcg | what i take from reading the guide in the wiki this needs to be done always when setting up the target | 17:11 |
| rcg | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Target_Setup | 17:11 |
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| rcg | but adding this to the pa guide would be also good i think :) | 17:12 |
| shmerl | Ah, that must be recent. I installed Nemo target before it came up probably | 17:12 |
| shmerl | Or I just forgot about it. | 17:13 |
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| shmerl | I'll add a note to look up issues in the mer-core target, since they seems to be generic. | 17:14 |
| rcg | aye | 17:16 |
| shmerl | btw, mobile okular crash is a known bug: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/Tegra3/Nexus7#The_.22Reader.22_.28mobile_okular.29_is_constantly_crashing_on_zoom. | 17:19 |
| shmerl | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308240 | 17:19 |
| Merbot | KDE bug 308240 in Applications "active-documentviewer crashes by using zoom gestures" [Crash,Confirmed] | 17:19 |
| rcg | i see, good to know it's being worked on :) | 17:20 |
| shmerl | There quite a lot of usability issues, but I'm not sure where to report them. | 17:22 |
| shmerl | Like "File" application being very confusing and not working properly | 17:22 |
| shmerl | I.e. "Files" | 17:22 |
| shmerl | Since these are more enhancements, not really bugs. | 17:23 |
| rcg | i consider everything (or at least the vast majority) related to usability pa/kde issues | 17:23 |
| shmerl | Yeah, I mean would they read if I file KDE bugs? | 17:23 |
| shmerl | They usually ignore requests for enhancements. | 17:24 |
| rcg | hmm.. dunno about their policy with respect to that | 17:24 |
| rcg | maybe give it a try and try to nicely ask them if there are plans/ways to improve it | 17:25 |
| shmerl | They pay attention to bugs, but other stuff - usually not. For example: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293943 | 17:25 |
| Merbot | KDE bug 293943 in widget-taskbar "Make the duration/frequency of flashing for the Urgent hint configurable in Task Manager" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] | 17:25 |
| shmerl | OK, I can try asking aseigo what's the best approach. | 17:25 |
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| rcg | well, afaik they are also very limited with respect to people working on this. so i wouldn't feel too sad if such enhancement requests are not picked up right away | 17:26 |
| rcg | for me it is a positive sign that they don't close it as wontfix or invalid or something | 17:27 |
| shmerl | Right | 17:27 |
| rcg | so i take it as a "free to take by anybody who wants to fix/add feature <foo>" ;) | 17:27 |
| shmerl | But with "Files" it borders on the bug. I couldn't even figure out how to go one level up in directories. Or how to copy a file or to move it to some other place. | 17:27 |
| shmerl | I.e. such file manager is crippled IMO. | 17:28 |
| shmerl | They can say use "Dolphin" but it has its own issues. | 17:28 |
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| shmerl | It's not working well with touch gestures. | 17:28 |
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| shmerl | I.e. it expects right clicks I think. | 17:28 |
| rcg | well, i understand both sides.. the devs and the users, while the time of each dev is very limited users may get quickly frustrated by "non-optimally working" software | 17:29 |
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| shmerl | I.e. terminal is all fine, (even though I'd like to build mc for pa), but regular user won't use terminal to move files. | 17:30 |
| rcg | i think it is important to have reports of things not working optimally, on the other side we somehow also need to communicate to users that they (usually?) cannot expect issues being fixed within hours or days | 17:31 |
| shmerl | So file manager is really one of the core key components. | 17:31 |
| shmerl | Right. I just want to know that they somehow digest this feedback. I don't really expect them to fix all that instantly. | 17:32 |
| rcg | well, the hope is still there that we get more devs working on this when things like pa are becoming available on more devices | 17:33 |
| rcg | so from my perspective every added hw-adaptation is a win for the entire open source effort | 17:34 |
| shmerl | Sure, that's a huge progress. Before that there virtually were no devices where it could run decently at all :) | 17:34 |
| rcg | and thanks to the way mer is designed different projects like pa, nemo, etc. all benefit from these hw-adaptations | 17:34 |
| Artox | is there some magic to using osc in mersdk? | 17:35 |
| Artox | Server returned an error: HTTP Error 401: basic auth failed | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | do you have a login to a obs? | 17:35 |
| Artox | yes | 17:36 |
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| Artox | but I will read the OBS wiki page now first | 17:36 |
| rcg | Artox, keep an eye open for .oscrc when you do that ;) | 17:37 |
| rcg | shmerl, the hope is that we will see more open devices in the future ;) | 17:38 |
| rcg | personally, i started with pa on an archos g9 | 17:38 |
| shmerl | Hope so. | 17:38 |
| Artox | worked fine, .obsrc did the trick | 17:39 |
| Artox | oscrc* | 17:39 |
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| zappa | hey all, my n900 finally died. I need to get a new phone, other than the N9 what phones will have a good shot of loading up mer or what chipsets whould i look for in the phones. | 17:41 |
| shmerl | zappa: N9 is still pricy. N900 you can get cheaper on e-bay. Otherwise I'd wait for Jolla's one. | 17:42 |
| Artox | zappa: get a GTA04 xD(though its kinda impossible to receive it before march) | 17:43 |
| Artox | anyway I guess there is some amgic to check out git repositories autoamtically on OBS? | 17:43 |
| Artox | magic* | 17:43 |
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| zappa | might get a cheap evo 3d for 150 and wait for jolla I suppose | 17:44 |
| shmerl | Is yasm available somewhere in mer repos? I remember lbt mentioning that it is, but zypper can't find it. | 17:44 |
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| rcg | lol, alright, do not turn the screen brightness on nexus 7 to 0% | 17:47 |
| rcg | it really means 0% :D | 17:47 |
| rcg | as in black screen | 17:48 |
| shmerl | Hehe. It should have voice control to turn it back up. | 17:48 |
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| rcg | :) | 17:49 |
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| shmerl | What changes in sb2 when you use -m sdk-install? | 17:52 |
| shmerl | I.e. when exactly that should be used and when it's not needed? | 17:52 |
| Stskeeps | only use it when you need to install into non-/home | 17:52 |
| shmerl | OK. So for make install it should be used. | 17:53 |
| shmerl | But for just make - no point? | 17:53 |
| shmerl | Or it only affects rpm/zypper? | 17:53 |
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| Stskeeps | for any kind of installation outside /home, -R -m sdk-install | 17:56 |
| shmerl | OK | 17:56 |
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| plfiorini | Stskeeps, does build.merproject.org work for you? | 18:11 |
| Stskeeps | we are debugging what's wrong with it | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | it runs out of httpds to serve requests with | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | which is kinda awkward | 18:12 |
| lbt | still a problem? | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | seems so | 18:14 |
| kulve | rcg: I haven't tested it enouhg to notice any stability issues yet | 18:14 |
| kulve | rcg: does the brightness work between 10-90%? | 18:14 |
| lbt | plfiorini: are you having issues now? | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm having problems | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | can't access | 18:16 |
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| kulve | shmerl: thanks for updateing the TODO/bug list | 18:17 |
| plfiorini | lbt, yep it's still spinning and not loading the page | 18:18 |
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| shmerl | kulve: No problem. It'll probably grow more :) | 18:19 |
| lbt | machine is fully idle FWIW | 18:19 |
| plfiorini | in the meanwhile i'm going to grab a kebab | 18:20 |
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| CosmoHill | merry boxing day | 18:39 |
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| SfietKonstantin | Stskeeps: is that normal that qmlscene in Mer says that "module QtQuick is not installed" ? :S | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | fairly | 18:52 |
| SfietKonstantin | hum ... | 18:53 |
| SfietKonstantin | /usr/lib/qt5/imports is empty | 18:53 |
| SfietKonstantin | maybe because of a problem in the interface between the chair and the keyboard | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | nah not really | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | just you need to install some things | 18:54 |
| SfietKonstantin | yeah, I just find out | 18:55 |
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| SfietKonstantin | Qt5 is chopped in fine slices in Mer | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | indeed | 18:55 |
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| Bostik | the individual imports in particular are packaged as finegrained as I could manage | 18:59 |
| slummer | i followed the instructions at https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox and all went well up to "Once installed go to: Tools->Options->Mer->Targets and add the target." When i try to add nemo_n9_min i get "VM is not running!" error | 19:04 |
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| SfietKonstantin | reminds me of something | 19:10 |
| slummer | hmm...i had to change my ~/.ssh/id_rsa to ~/.ssh/mer-qt-creator-rsa | 19:11 |
| slummer | now all is well...so far | 19:11 |
| slummer | s/change/copy/ | 19:12 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I think it's possibly an smtp issue | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 19:22 |
| lbt | Connection refused - connect(2) | 19:27 |
| lbt | /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/actionmailer-2.3.14/lib/action_mailer/base.rb:715:in `perform_delivery_smtp | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok, maybe worth looking at? | 19:27 |
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| phaeron | lbt: I think it wants to send an email to an admin about an error | 19:32 |
| lbt | yeah - it should be working - looking now | 19:33 |
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| rcg | kulve, brightness setting works well, just make sure to not put to 0% ;) | 19:34 |
| rcg | even 1% is fine | 19:34 |
| rcg | just the last step to zero turns the backlight completely off | 19:35 |
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| rcg | kulve, wrt brightness, there is an issue that the brightness is reset to 100% whenever the "Screen" settings page is displayed | 19:42 |
| rcg | looks like the brightness setting is not actually saved | 19:42 |
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| rcg | btw kulve thanks for moving the stuff to the wiki :) | 19:46 |
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| norii | would anyone recommend buying the n9 | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | sure, it's a nice device | 19:56 |
| suosaaski | But it is a "work in progress" imo. | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | well, rather, it'll never be finished | 19:58 |
| suosaaski | Too many connection issues. | 19:58 |
| suosaaski | Stskeeps: yes, that is probably a better choice of words. | 19:59 |
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| suosaaski | The most annoying issue is with facebook (and iirc twitter) clients that sometimes refuse to get online before opening a page with browser, and the same goes for opening some pics in facebook feeds. | 20:02 |
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| norii | is there anything with a keyboard like the droid3 that would be good to hack on mer and related projects with, in that case? | 20:03 |
| norii | i just about killed myself when they killed the n950 originally | 20:04 |
| norii | and even there the kb was pretty dismal | 20:04 |
| norii | no pipe key, etc | 20:04 |
| SpeedEvil | well, that can be remapped | 20:05 |
| SpeedEvil | kinda hard if the only button is the power one | 20:05 |
| suosaaski | I was sad for both N950 an "lankku" never making it to my pocket :) | 20:05 |
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| Artox | is there a standard uboot in the Mer repos to use for building kernel? | 20:12 |
| Artox | since it inly needs to make a proper uImage anyway | 20:12 |
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| rcg | lbt, are you still working on b.m.o? | 20:52 |
| Stskeeps | seems to have broken again | 20:53 |
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| rcg | kk | 20:58 |
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| lbt | fuuuuuuuuuuuuu | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 21:01 |
| lbt | bmo | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 21:03 |
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| lbt | wtf changed? | 21:09 |
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| suosaaski | b.m.o.? | 21:12 |
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| kulve | just more curious people checking the site? | 21:12 |
| kulve | build.merproject.org | 21:12 |
| lbt | it's not loaded | 21:16 |
| lbt | it's 100% idle | 21:16 |
| lbt | some backend app is hanging I think | 21:16 |
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| lbt | now it's working again :/ | 21:19 |
| Venemo | hey guys :) | 21:21 |
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| Artox | [22:16] <lbt> some backend app is hanging I think | 21:25 |
| Artox | I was uploading a source tarball on obs | 21:25 |
| lbt | Artox: how big? | 21:25 |
| Artox | at very low speed | 21:26 |
| lbt | and have you been trying for the past few days? | 21:26 |
| Artox | 85.6MB | 21:26 |
| Artox | no | 21:26 |
| Artox | I did it just the last 25 minutes | 21:26 |
| lbt | OK - worth knowing but probably not the root cause - ty | 21:26 |
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| rcg | thx lbt :) | 21:40 |
| slummer | qt creator is telling me "QMAKESPEC has not been set"...how do i set that? My VM is still on the mersdk splash screen | 21:47 |
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| slummer | do i log in to the VM? | 21:50 |
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| rcg | lbt, sorry to bother you once more | 22:12 |
| rcg | is api @bmo up and working? | 22:13 |
| rcg | i'm getting parse errors with osc | 22:13 |
| rcg | complaining about some xml stuff | 22:13 |
| lbt | rcg: try now as I watch | 22:14 |
| rcg | did | 22:14 |
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| koik | http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=NVq56AQ2vxgECOtvW_3-cC_MeqWSEVkU2vlXs7SL5zHkz4rz3EUUdzs6j6FXsjB4447F-isvxjqkXd4Qey2GHw#teaser | 22:15 |
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| lbt | rcg: no obvious errors | 22:17 |
| lbt | sounds more like you're sending invalid XML | 22:17 |
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| lbt | is this a pattern? | 22:17 |
| lbt | nemo:devel:hw:nv:tegra3:common/_pattern | 22:18 |
| rcg | the error message said something about _pattern | 22:18 |
| rcg | btw i also tried to directly check out a new package | 22:18 |
| rcg | with the same error | 22:18 |
| lbt | pastie ? | 22:18 |
| rcg | http://pastebin.com/nm5eQPTn | 22:19 |
| rcg | the first is the update of a project and below is the attempt to directly check a package out | 22:19 |
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| yunta | slummer: some answers on #jollamobile | 22:33 |
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| slummer | yunta: thanks | 22:36 |
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| rcg | lbt, can you draw conclusions from the output? | 22:42 |
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| lbt | rcg: hmm - possibly a corrupt _pattern | 22:48 |
| lbt | phaeron: seen this ^^ ? | 22:48 |
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| rcg | lbt, hmm i see | 22:51 |
| rcg | btw am still getting timeouts on cobs@meego when trying to download packages | 22:51 |
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| rcg | uploading via web frontend to bmo seems to fail as well | 23:03 |
| rcg | tried two files, web fronted said upload was successful but the files do not show up in the sources | 23:04 |
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| rcg | is maybe a disk full? | 23:07 |
| lbt | rcg: can you try that again - I just restarted and may have interrupted | 23:07 |
| lbt | will look at meego cobs tomorrow | 23:07 |
| rcg | retrying | 23:09 |
| rcg | alright, the meego cobs issue is not that important to me right now | 23:09 |
| rcg | it's just annoying that it always times out | 23:10 |
| rcg | nope, upload via we ui is not working | 23:10 |
| rcg | but i'll call it a day for now | 23:10 |
| rcg | didn't notice it's already past 0:00 | 23:11 |
| lbt | :) | 23:11 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 23:35 |
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