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| rcg | sweet :) | 00:15 |
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| rcg | hacked quite a bit and now i have hw-accelerated video working in bangarang :D | 00:15 |
| shmerl | bangarang? | 00:15 |
| rcg | the video/media player in pa | 00:16 |
| shmerl | Ah | 00:16 |
| shmerl | That's great. | 00:16 |
| rcg | yeah :D | 00:16 |
| shmerl | btw - I installed your keyboard. | 00:16 |
| rcg | now "all" i need to do is get the patch i a little better shape ;) | 00:16 |
| shmerl | Tab is quite useful | 00:16 |
| rcg | how do you like it? | 00:17 |
| rcg | indeed :) | 00:17 |
| shmerl | Some other buttons could be added - Ctrl, Alt and etc. | 00:17 |
| shmerl | Like common terminal stuff | 00:17 |
| rcg | hehe yeah.. am missing ctrl-c quite often now | 00:17 |
| shmerl | Yep. I made some ping and was trying to figure out how to stop it, lol | 00:18 |
| rcg | but this was a start to make the keyboard usable for the terminal at all.. i.e. before there wasn't even esc which kinda renders vim entirely useless ;) | 00:18 |
| shmerl | Actually it just works. Default one is broken | 00:18 |
| shmerl | It doesn't go away when needed. | 00:18 |
| shmerl | And stays even when you go to the home screen | 00:19 |
| rcg | ah that.. yes. my biggest problem with the current default was that sometimes it is impossible to write into certain text fields like the webbrowser address bar | 00:19 |
| shmerl | Is transparency level configurable? | 00:19 |
| shmerl | Yep, I noticed that. | 00:20 |
| shmerl | In browser it just didn't work at all | 00:20 |
| rcg | well, in the current stage all is hardcoded | 00:20 |
| shmerl | OK. Would be a good feature to add it as a conf option. | 00:20 |
| shmerl | Btw, is layout a hardcoded thing? I'd expect them to use some XML instead of making a new build for each version | 00:21 |
| rcg | currently it is hardcoded too iirc | 00:21 |
| shmerl | Kind of too inflexible | 00:21 |
| rcg | but the maliit guys are working on this | 00:21 |
| shmerl | I see | 00:21 |
| rcg | /usr/share/maliit/plugins/org/kde/active/keyboard/ | 00:22 |
| rcg | if you wanna hack on the keyboard yourself ;) | 00:22 |
| rcg | it is essentially qml | 00:22 |
| rcg | and you can simply "killall -9 maliit-server" to force reload | 00:23 |
| shmerl | I see | 00:23 |
| shmerl | Ideally, it should have some way to add more layouts without rebuilding it. | 00:24 |
| shmerl | I get this weird bug, that when it goes to sleep - it drops WiFi. | 00:25 |
| shmerl | Is it normal? | 00:25 |
| shmerl | (I.e. intended) or it's a bug? | 00:25 |
| rcg | well, it shuts wifi down yes | 00:26 |
| rcg | but it should come back after resume | 00:26 |
| shmerl | Yeah, but it disrupts any sessions to the device (ssh and etc.) | 00:26 |
| rcg | here it automatically reconnects withing about 10 seconds after resume | 00:26 |
| shmerl | So I can't just keep it running closed. | 00:26 |
| shmerl | Also, I have a power cable attached now. | 00:26 |
| rcg | hmm.. if it is only shortly suspended ssh sessions don't get disrupted here | 00:26 |
| shmerl | I mean just network gets disrupted. | 00:27 |
| rcg | you can hit the power button and then avoid going to sleep but quickly touch the moving slider back | 00:27 |
| rcg | *by quickly touching | 00:27 |
| shmerl | There are probably some profile settings for plugged in mode. | 00:27 |
| shmerl | I.e. when charging | 00:28 |
| shmerl | For example I wouldn't want it to drop wifi in such mode | 00:28 |
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| shmerl | Hm. That's weird. I have turn off screen: 60 min. Sleep: 60 min. Lock: 5 min. | 00:29 |
| shmerl | real values are way lower than that. | 00:29 |
| shmerl | And there is no profiles for "charing/discharging" modes. | 00:30 |
| shmerl | I guess it's a feature to add to PA. | 00:30 |
| shmerl | Also, I noticed that when it's running actively - it practically doesn't increase the battery level even from the adapter. I guess power consumption is high. That's normal? | 00:32 |
| shmerl | It even goes down. | 00:32 |
| shmerl | It only goes up when screen is off. | 00:32 |
| shmerl | also, I didn't figure out how to use rotation. Nothing seems to rotate atm. | 00:35 |
| rcg | ah yeah, the values in the settings are not the ones really used | 00:38 |
| rcg | and yep, afaik this is related to pa | 00:38 |
| rcg | don't know about power consumption | 00:38 |
| rcg | been just rewriting the patch a little so that it shouldn't break existing stuff ;) | 00:39 |
| shmerl | host mode works btw for external drives (like flash drives) | 00:39 |
| shmerl | But I didn't manage to use external keyboard | 00:39 |
| rcg | ah cool | 00:40 |
| shmerl | Even though it appeared in dmesg | 00:40 |
| rcg | well, that is likely an xorg config issue | 00:40 |
| rcg | i think we didn't add drivers for external keyboards there | 00:40 |
| shmerl | I see | 00:40 |
| rcg | at least not that i am aware of ;) | 00:40 |
| shmerl | Well, it's useful to add all regular drivers. | 00:40 |
| shmerl | Since when you attach stuff in stationary mode with USB hub you can add all kind of devies. | 00:41 |
| shmerl | But keyboard and external drives are the most common ones. | 00:41 |
| shmerl | I guess I could try to get a bluetooth keyboard, but I don't have one to test yet. | 00:42 |
| rcg | great, hw-accelerated video playback in the stock pa media player works :D | 00:42 |
| shmerl | Nice! But that's only for h.264 right? | 00:42 |
| rcg | think so | 00:42 |
| shmerl | vp8 seems to be missing from their libs | 00:42 |
| shmerl | all those nv_* | 00:42 |
| rcg | so far i tried mp4 and divx | 00:43 |
| shmerl | gst-inspect-0.10 show a bunch of nvidia special libraries. | 00:43 |
| rcg | yep | 00:43 |
| shmerl | omx: nv_omx_h264dec: OpenMAX IL H.264/AVC video decoder | 00:44 |
| rcg | also had a brief look at those | 00:44 |
| shmerl | Aren't those used for hw accelerated video? | 00:44 |
| rcg | that's what i would assume | 00:44 |
| rcg | but i am no expert with gstreamer | 00:45 |
| shmerl | On their site they say that Tegra 3 should support VP8. | 00:45 |
| shmerl | But I wasn't able to figure out how exactly | 00:45 |
| rcg | first time i ever looked into this thing deeper today ;) | 00:45 |
| shmerl | I see :) | 00:45 |
| shmerl | I tried to ask them - but they didn't respond | 00:45 |
| shmerl | https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/524959/linux-for-tegra/tegra-3-and-hardware-vp8-decoding-/ | 00:46 |
| rcg | hmm trying to play a .webm video crashes the player ;) | 00:46 |
| shmerl | It could be missing vp8 decoder altogether, even software. | 00:46 |
| shmerl | Regular one is libvpx | 00:46 |
| rcg | hmm i see | 00:46 |
| shmerl | It's not coming with Mer (if I'll have time, I'll package it) | 00:46 |
| rcg | well.. it's time for me | 00:46 |
| rcg | we have 02:00am here ;) | 00:47 |
| shmerl | rcg: night! | 00:47 |
| rcg | just wanted to get that video stuff finished :) | 00:47 |
| shmerl | Good thing! | 00:47 |
| rcg | night | 00:47 |
| rcg | and hopefully we can integrate those patches soon ;) | 00:48 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 01:43 |
| Mazali | evening | 01:55 |
| shmerl | situ: evening :) | 01:57 |
| situ | :) | 01:57 |
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| situ | Mer OBS again down. | 02:33 |
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| chriadam|away | mardy: optimistic ping ;-) I'm looking at the libaccount-plugin stuff now, and am a bit confused about set_oauth_parameters(). I understand that these parameters should be used as sessionData when starting an authentication process, however I'm not sure what the "intended" way to expose this is | 04:01 |
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| chriadam | mardy: I mean, the start_authentication_process() function seems a strange to me - how does it get called? I had thought that clients would start an auth session directly via using an AccountService and getting the AuthData from it. | 04:02 |
| chriadam | (and then doing authData.createSession() / session.process()). that is, I don't see how the plugin's start_authentication_process() function gets called, as part of that flow... | 04:03 |
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| chriadam | mardy: or, do they just get stored to the keys like: auth/oauth2/user_agent/key=value ? | 04:19 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: Kick OBS when you're online | 05:07 |
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| zengweitotty | hi, Recently I want to use Qt to develop a program to send message with Mer fileSystem, Can any one give some advices? | 05:32 |
| shmerl | What do you mean by sending a message with filesystem? | 05:32 |
| zengweitotty | I porting a Mer file system on S3C6410 board | 05:33 |
| zengweitotty | I want to develop a program to send message with GSM module | 05:33 |
| shmerl | You work on hardware adaptation for that board? | 05:33 |
| shmerl | I see. Better wait for someone who is familiar with that. Most Mer devs are sleeping now. | 05:34 |
| zengweitotty | I am a new man in hardware adaptation | 05:34 |
| zengweitotty | what mean Most Mer devs are sleeping now. | 05:34 |
| shmerl | Timezones. | 05:34 |
| shmerl | Wait until they come back (not too long) | 05:35 |
| zengweitotty | Ok,thank you for your help | 05:35 |
| shmerl | Ping them again in some hours. | 05:36 |
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| zengweitotty | how to ping them | 05:36 |
| zengweitotty | I do not have their IP | 05:36 |
| shmerl | Just come back here to IRC while more people are on-line. | 05:36 |
| shmerl | I don't mean real "ping" :) | 05:36 |
| shmerl | Just mean ask them. | 05:36 |
| zengweitotty | Ok, I just know a new word | 05:37 |
| chriadam | I don't know how active the core devs will be, given that it's Christmas... | 05:37 |
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| shmerl | Ping can be used as "enquire". | 05:38 |
| shmerl | chriadam: Someone might be on-line. | 05:38 |
| sdqifeng | sl | 05:39 |
| shmerl | zengweitotty: How are you working with that board, are there kernel sources and drivers available? | 05:39 |
| zengweitotty | I do not know how the kernel and AP interactive in Mer | 05:41 |
| shmerl | Well, in order to make a functional system you need a working kernel. And drivers are needed for devices like GPU and etc. | 05:41 |
| zengweitotty | The GSM module is use AT protocal | 05:42 |
| zengweitotty | I just want to know how my GSM driver should be written | 05:43 |
| sdqifeng | My MerSDK has problem: the Prompt is just "bash-3.2$" after I type"sdk enter", who can help ? | 05:44 |
| shmerl | sdqifeng: Did you mount it first? | 05:44 |
| sdqifeng | is it needed ? | 05:44 |
| shmerl | Yes | 05:44 |
| shmerl | Follow the instructions here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 05:45 |
| sdqifeng | I just tried, but it is still "bash-3.2$" | 05:45 |
| shmerl | I think you need to explicitly create .bashrc | 05:45 |
| shmerl | See the page I linked. | 05:45 |
| sdqifeng | I have just checked my .mersdk.profile, it is ok | 05:46 |
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| sdqifeng | regarding .bashrc, my line is : alias mersdk=/srv/mer/sdks/sdk/mer-sdk-chroot | 05:46 |
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| shmerl | What's in your $HOME/.mersdk.profile | 05:49 |
| shmerl | Try also to unmount the SDK, mount it again, and then enter it. | 05:49 |
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| zengweitotty | hi, Recently I want to use Qt to develop a program to send message with Mer fileSystem, Can any one give some advices? | 06:40 |
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| zengweitotty | Is any one know how to porting SIM driver, and to send a message or dial a phone with Mer | 06:50 |
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| rcg | morning all | 07:24 |
| zengweitotty | Is any one know how to porting SIM driver, and to send a message or dial a phone with Mer | 07:24 |
| kulve | zengweitotty: ofono is the one handling all cellular stuff in mer (I think) | 07:26 |
| shmerl | rcg: Hi! | 07:27 |
| shmerl | I got an example with working sound on nexus7 | 07:28 |
| shmerl | DISPLAY=:0 gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=$HOME/sintel_trailer-720p.mp4 ! qtdemux name=demuxer \ demuxer. ! nv_omx_aacdec ! queue ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! autoaudiosink \ demuxer. ! queue ! nv_omx_h264dec ! nvxvimagesink | 07:28 |
| zengweitotty | kulve: I want to know how i can get touch with ofono | 07:29 |
| zengweitotty | kulve:I got SIM300 module on my hand, I want to use this module to some communication | 07:30 |
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| shmerl | And I'm not sure why sound suddenly started working at all. Now I get tegra-rt5640 Analog Audio in kmix, before it was some "dummy audio" | 07:32 |
| kulve | shmerl: there was an update to configs-nexus7 that updated the pulseaudio configs | 07:33 |
| sdqifeng | hi all, do you know how to clean the image build which is built via : mic create ...? | 07:33 |
| rcg | shmerl, yeah, just saw it on my blog | 07:35 |
| rcg | an also commented on it ;) | 07:35 |
| rcg | kulve, btw. i am preparing an update that adds hw-accelerated video playback for the internal player | 07:36 |
| shmerl | I didn't really dig into gst too much - just took a working example for ffmpeg and changed the decoder to nv_ one. | 07:36 |
| rcg | kulve, just in case you didn't see my messages yesterday | 07:36 |
| kulve | rcg: this time I didn't, thanks for the heads up :) | 07:37 |
| rcg | requires to patch the gstreamer backend of phonon | 07:37 |
| rcg | i am right now preparing a testing repository on build.merproject.org | 07:37 |
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| shmerl | rcg: btw, your instructions and script for Nemo addons for PA use armv7l | 07:38 |
| shmerl | So for Nexus7 they need some update. | 07:38 |
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| rcg | shmerl, yep, that's on my todo list as well ;) | 07:38 |
| shmerl | I tried to install it, but meego-terminal failed to show up. | 07:38 |
| rcg | but one thing after another | 07:38 |
| shmerl | Even though the process is running. | 07:39 |
| rcg | an build.merproject.org seems pretty slow right now | 07:39 |
| rcg | *and | 07:39 |
| shmerl | (I changed all repos to armv7hl manually) | 07:39 |
| kulve | rcg: I usually test build always locally with "osc build" before pushing to obs | 07:39 |
| rcg | kulve, i want to create the project for publishing these things | 07:40 |
| rcg | so that people can actually download and test themselves | 07:40 |
| kulve | sure | 07:40 |
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| kulve | that patched phonon could go to tegra3:common or maybe tegra3:extras because it would be common for all tegra3 devices? | 07:41 |
| shmerl | Btw, I tested external USB ethernet card with it (D-Link dub-e100). Worked out of the box. | 07:41 |
| rcg | i pathed it in a way that _should_(tm) work for all versions | 07:41 |
| rcg | i.e. it detects your GST env variable for tegra3 | 07:42 |
| kulve | ok | 07:42 |
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| shmerl | btw, is rotation supposed to work at all, or it's not yet ready? | 07:43 |
| rcg | for b.m.o i get a proxy error | 07:44 |
| davidqi | hi all, didn't you ever need to clean a previous bulit rootfs image ? | 07:44 |
| rcg | Sage, lbt phaeron ^ | 07:44 |
| rcg | i hope you guys are the right ones to message this to | 07:45 |
| rcg | shmerl, you could give xrandr a try | 07:45 |
| rcg | but pa itself does not support rotation yet | 07:45 |
| shmerl | rcg: Ah, I see. Using "Reader" isn't really good in landscape. | 07:45 |
| shmerl | I can play around with xrandr. | 07:45 |
| shmerl | Though reader itself crashes too often on regular PDFs, so it's hardly usable yet. | 07:46 |
| rcg | shmerl, yeah, indeed, noticed this too | 07:47 |
| rcg | as a workaround you can install okular | 07:47 |
| rcg | but this is not really touch optimized | 07:47 |
| shmerl | Right, I'll test if it's any better. | 07:47 |
| shmerl | Should I post a bug about it to KDE bugzilla? | 07:48 |
| zengweitotty | kulve: how can I to get some information about Mer's communication function, I want to porting SIM driver to Mer | 07:48 |
| rcg | shmerl, hmm that's always the question.. there or further upstream | 07:48 |
| kulve | xrandr do rotate but I think there's something broken on some level and not everything are properly updated. Also I think the touch doesn't properly rotate, even though it is supposed to do that | 07:48 |
| rcg | but i guess kde bugzilla should do | 07:49 |
| rcg | and i even think even upstream is hosted on kde, just a different component | 07:49 |
| shmerl | OK. I think it's the most upstream since mobile okular is part of the PA. | 07:49 |
| rcg | so kde bugzilla should be pretty safe ;) | 07:49 |
| shmerl | Yep | 07:49 |
| rcg | meh.. too many typos... too early.. want to get that patch for media player out :D | 07:50 |
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| kulve | rcg: I guess we could use the tegra3:common for the Qt components to get those automatically to those who are using your image? We can later select a different repo, if we want to keep the very basic HA somehow separated from the modified high level components | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | situ: kicked | 07:56 |
| rcg | kulve, yeah, that should work as well | 07:57 |
| rcg | but b.m.o is currently not available | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | should be up now | 07:58 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, great :) | 07:58 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: there has been several downtimes for b.m.o lately? Something unstable there..? | 07:58 |
| rcg | works | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: it creates a bunch of httpd processes and stalls | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | i need to have lbt look at it | 07:58 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: the VM itself is fine | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: you want to look at ofono.org and source code for that | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: it's not mer specific | 07:59 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: Ok thanks | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: what modem do you have? | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | and how do you communicate with it, AT commands? | 08:00 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: my server has suffered from the same although I guess I don't run anything similar to b.m.o. I've been wondering if there's some buggy bot crawler trying to go through all the links at once or something. Getting more memory helped for the stalling part, but has not prevented it completely | 08:00 |
| rcg | kulve, hmm.. the tegra3:common is missing automoc | 08:01 |
| rcg | will just quickly create a testing project for this stuff | 08:02 |
| kulve | automoc? | 08:02 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps:Yes I use AT command | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: is it available on a /dev/tty-something? | 08:03 |
| rcg | kulve, this dependency is needed for building phonon apparently | 08:03 |
| zengweitotty | yes | 08:03 |
| zengweitotty | is on ttySCA3 | 08:03 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: how could I use it | 08:03 |
| zengweitotty | Am I need to write a driver for that modern? | 08:04 |
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| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: probably not, you want to install package ofono-tests (or ofono-test, i forget) and try to run list-modems in /usr/lib/ofono/tests | 08:05 |
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| rcg | ah no.. that automoc thing seems to be a general problem? | 08:06 |
| situ | Stskeeps: Thanks! | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: i think you can perhaps edit /etc/ofono/modem.conf if you're lucky | 08:06 |
| kulve | rcg: automoc4 is now there and being built. Not sure what would be the correct approach here as I don't think branching that all over is the correct solution | 08:06 |
| kulve | maybe the automoc4 should be in Core? | 08:06 |
| rcg | maybe i just would have needed to wait | 08:07 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps:oh,I give a try | 08:07 |
| kulve | rcg: automoc has been built and is ready to be used | 08:07 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: If this method is not probably Ok, how should I do next? | 08:07 |
| rcg | kulve, great :) | 08:08 |
| rcg | i'll just try to format the patches properly and re-upload those | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: use a udev rule saying KERNEL=="ttySAC3", ENV{OFONO_DRIVER}="atmodem" | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: that way ofono should be able to detect it | 08:09 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps:I have a try | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: so you guys are trying to do a s3c6410 based phone? with qt4 on top? | 08:10 |
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| Stskeeps | should make for an interesting project, very low end | 08:12 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps:Yes,but just a protype | 08:13 |
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| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: I know this hardware is very low, because this is the only platform on my hands | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i know the platform a bit, i had a SmartQ5 at some point | 08:15 |
| Stskeeps | which had s3c6410 too | 08:15 |
| zengweitotty | Stskeeps: I want my board just run is the best for me. | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: http://gitorious.org/xf86-video-s3c64xx/xf86-video-s3c64xx may be interesting for you in longer term, if updated to modern X.org driver, it uses samsung G2D and PP for faster Xorg | 08:17 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: did you ever meet problem that zimage running on QEMU, with only black screen? | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: that can be many problems, perhaps you should consider to use a x86 version of mer for qemu, that's what the rest of us do | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: there's no need to have it run ARM for development purposes :) | 08:19 |
| davidqi | my target board is arm ... | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | so is mine :) | 08:20 |
| davidqi | I dont understand your idea clearly | 08:20 |
| davidqi | why ? | 08:20 |
| davidqi | do you mean, during the development period, all work is same, no matter taking ARM or X86 as target? | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so, Mer on ARM and X86 is the same source code, but compiled for different targets. the Mer SDK provides tools to cross compile to ARM. when developing a system, you might as well develop your software on Mer X86 and when needed, compile it for ARM | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | so if you need a 'device emulator', it can be X86 just fine | 08:22 |
| davidqi | OK, thanks. | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | the ARM emulator will be much slower, too, so | 08:23 |
| davidqi | But this still make me feel bad : I can not run ARM emulator ... | 08:23 |
| Stskeeps | well, start out by making your kernel boot with init=/bin/sh | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | and see that something appears on screen | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | if it doesn't, your console= may be wrong, and should be =tty0 | 08:24 |
| davidqi | I will try | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | remember you cannot use same zImage for QEMU as you do on s3c6410 | 08:24 |
| rcg | hmm kulve you are right.. i just tried without automoc in our project but it seems not to build that way.. just branched it from nemo:devel:mw again | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: what are you trying to do? | 08:24 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, for getting hw-accelerated video playback on nexus 7 to work we use a patched version oh phonon | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | okay, which patches what exactly? | 08:25 |
| kulve | sink selection, I think | 08:25 |
| rcg | the patch is in a way that _should_ not break anything else so these could actually go into mer phonon | 08:25 |
| Stskeeps | okay, so there's no need for you to actually build it against the tegra3 adaptation? | 08:26 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, yes, we just do it now for having a quicker release | 08:26 |
| rcg | https://build.merproject.org/package/files?package=phonon&project=home%3Awonko%3Abranches%3Anemo%3Adevel%3Amw | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | also, mer doesn't have phonon | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it's in nemo | 08:26 |
| rcg | 0002-Add-support-for-nvxvimagesink.patch | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | just submit it there i guess | 08:26 |
| rcg | btw. we also fixed the phonon compile issue ;) | 08:27 |
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| kulve | I'm not sure if the Q_GST_VIDEOSINK is the best name. I suggested just GST_VIDEOSINK in a patch to qt-mobility for Stskeeps. We need to make sure we are using the same name before pushing the second patch to some upstream :) | 08:29 |
| rcg | alright, good point | 08:30 |
| rcg | :) | 08:30 |
| rcg | should i revoke the submit request to nemo:devel:mw then for now? | 08:30 |
| rcg | i mean in the worst case we can temporarily set both variables in our tegra3 config | 08:31 |
| rcg | so we should be flexible with respect to the name of that variable | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | we're working a bit on some idea of a 'statefs' so we can read these kind of variables off the fs as well if needed, but let's see where things evolve | 08:32 |
| kulve | rcg: you can continue using the Q_GST_VIDEOSINK for now | 08:32 |
| rcg | kulve, roger that | 08:33 |
| kulve | and actually it could be e.g. GST_XV_VIDEOSINK as there are also non-XV alternatives (egl etc.) | 08:33 |
| kulve | in the future, I mean | 08:33 |
| rcg | :) | 08:33 |
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| rcg | kulve, it already built | 08:34 |
| kulve | I'm going to be mostly afk today and tomorrow starting in 15mins. | 08:34 |
| rcg | so when you update you shuld have working hw-accel video playback in bangarang | 08:34 |
| zengweitotty | Steskeeps: how can I test My modern is ok or not? I want my board give me some feedback | 08:34 |
| rcg | kulve, right, then forget my last message and enjoy your free time :D | 08:34 |
| rcg | i assume you are spending your time with your family? | 08:35 |
| kulve | rcg: I'll test all your updates on 26th :) | 08:35 |
| kulve | rcg: yup | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: list-modems in /usr/lib/ofono/tests is a good start | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | zengweitotty: that should list your modem eventually | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | and then you can try out the other test cases | 08:36 |
| rcg | kulve, sure, no need to hurry. and enjoy the time with your family :) | 08:36 |
| kulve | rcg: it's -10°C and snowing heavily. Very nice weather for xmas :) | 08:36 |
| rcg | kulve, great, here we have about 12°C and most likely sunshine today :) | 08:36 |
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| rcg | but that's not very typical for that time of year ;) | 08:37 |
| shmerl | Interesting. Rotation with xrandr works, but UI uses old coordinates, so it's messing stuff up. | 08:39 |
| rcg | shmerl, hehe, that's what i was expecting :) | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | good morning mikhas | 08:41 |
| rcg | shmerl, i just wrote a comment about the video thing | 08:41 |
| rcg | could you just update and see if hw-accel. video now works for you | 08:41 |
| shmerl | Ah, thanks. Let's see | 08:42 |
| rcg | am just flashing my 3g model while the other one is recharging so i can test a little later ;) | 08:42 |
| rcg | btw shmerl i noticed that sound gets distorted when the device is suspended while playing sound, could you also test that? | 08:44 |
| shmerl | I got once some weird noise and had to switch sound off. | 08:45 |
| shmerl | I can try suspending while it plays. | 08:45 |
| shmerl | Yeah, it switches it off when screens goes off. And when it comes back on - it becomes distorted. | 08:47 |
| shmerl | I use magnetic sensor to trigger that. | 08:47 |
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| shmerl | Interestingly it works, but a bit inconsistently. | 08:48 |
| shmerl | So far the video crashed the player (I did zypper ref && zypper up). | 08:52 |
| shmerl | Trying to reboot. | 08:52 |
| rcg | shmerl, sorry.. gimme a sec | 08:53 |
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| shmerl | Here is the result of the crash: http://pastie.org/5571411 | 08:59 |
| rcg | shmerl, yeah, it didn't install the update yet as the version of the stuff i pushed is smaller than the version of the installed phonon | 09:00 |
| shmerl | I see | 09:00 |
| dm8tbr | btw: anyone here coming to 29C3? | 09:00 |
| rcg | trying to quickly fix that atm | 09:00 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: it is same result, there is nothing from very beginning on my QEMU. what is wrong with my kernel building? | 09:02 |
| rcg | shmerl, now give it another try: ref & up | 09:03 |
| shmerl | OK | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: yeah, possibly, what kernel source and defconfig do you use? | 09:03 |
| davidqi | 3.0.4 | 09:03 |
| davidqi | and versatile_defconfig | 09:03 |
| shmerl | Great, it works fine now! | 09:04 |
| shmerl | Thanks for the update. | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: hmm, and correct -M ? | 09:04 |
| rcg | :D | 09:04 |
| rcg | thanks for testing :) | 09:04 |
| shmerl | It crashes with segfault on close, but that's a minor annoyance ;) | 09:05 |
| rcg | hmm i see | 09:05 |
| rcg | ;) | 09:05 |
| mardy | chriadam: hi! That libaccount-plugin is only used in the Online Accounts panel, to create/edit accounts | 09:07 |
| mardy | chriadam: so, the plugins are called by the Ubuntu Online Accounts panel -- I don't think they are relevant for Mer in any way (though indeed you can use them to understand how they work) | 09:08 |
| mardy | chriadam: the set_auth_parameters() method is now unnecessary, because since the last version of libaccounts-glib the parameters can be specified inside the .provider file | 09:09 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: -M versatilepb, here is the link: http://pastie.org/5571444 | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: add a serial port to the qemu and have the output come there instead | 09:13 |
| Stskeeps | in console= | 09:13 |
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| shmerl | Second time it didn't crash. So it could be some random glitch. | 09:14 |
| CosmoHill | brainz.... | 09:15 |
| rcg | shmerl, yeah, there are still quite a few glitches | 09:16 |
| rcg | but it works already pretty damn well | 09:16 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: do you mean: qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -kernel ./zImage -hdc rootfs-mer-dev -append root="console= init=/bin/sh" -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=./qemu-ifup.sh | 09:16 |
| rcg | given that we have 3d-accel, hw-accel, and even suspend/resume working altogether | 09:16 |
| shmerl | Right. | 09:16 |
| shmerl | Is there some test for opengl es there? | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: console=ttyS0 or console=ttyAMA0, i forget which on versatile | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | and -serial stdio | 09:17 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: I got many many "Uncompressing Linux...Uncompressing Linux...Uncompressing Linux..." | 09:21 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: my command is : qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -kernel ./zImage -append root="console=ttyS0 init=/bin/sh" -net nic,vlan=0 -net tap,vlan=0,ifname=tap0,script=./qemu-ifup.sh -serial stdio | 09:23 |
| shmerl | rcg: thanks, I saw your comment. | 09:24 |
| rcg | shmerl, :) | 09:25 |
| rcg | was just thinking the very same ;) | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: looks like your kernel is crashing | 09:26 |
| davidqi | en , great info | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: enable CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK and CONFIG_DEBUG_LL , and earlyprintk in cmdline | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | also | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | -append "root=/dev/partition console=ttyS0 init=/bin/sh" | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | is probably saner | 09:28 |
| situ | Stskeeps: Check out http://www.cooper.com/journal/2012/08/the-best-interface-is-no-interface.html | 09:29 |
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| rcg | shmerl, btw when you push down the task switcher you will even see the realtime 3d graphics there :) | 09:29 |
| rcg | pull down, even | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | situ: automated behaviour is all good until it fails and acts in a way you don't anticipate | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:30 |
| situ | Principle 3 is what Jolla is following. | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | well, personalization for sure | 09:31 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: what is saner? | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: you had the " in a wrong place | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | -append "this is a kernel command line" | 09:33 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: thanks. | 09:33 |
| shmerl | rcg: Nice it updates the window in the task switcher :) | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | and try for fun to set console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 too | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | instead of S0 | 09:34 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: when gurus and guide in the web says, enable CONFIG_XXX, where can I find the position in the menuconfig? | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: i personally don't use menuconfig anymore, i edit .config and run oldconfig | 09:35 |
| shmerl | I miss going to some task switcher with swipes from the sides or bottom though. PA could add such option. | 09:35 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: but it is so hard to answer so many questions during run oldconfig | 09:42 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: do you really answer the questions one by one? | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: normally you start out by a .config that doesn't need all the questions answered | 09:42 |
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| Stskeeps | ie, make versatile_defconfig | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | and then you edit .config to perhaps edit some extra thing | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | s | 09:43 |
| davidqi | yes | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | and then run oldconfig to make sure any remaining questions are needed, following defaults usually | 09:43 |
| davidqi | following defaults usually? | 09:44 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it suggests a default when asking a question | 09:44 |
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| davidqi | just now, I ran oldconfig after CONFIG_EARLY_PRINTK=y and CONFIG_DEBUG_LL=y, and answers all the questions with defaults | 09:45 |
| rcg | shmerl, same thoughts again ;) see my message to you just some lines above :) | 09:45 |
| davidqi | but when I run 'make ARCH=arm' | 09:45 |
| davidqi | I met errors | 09:45 |
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| davidqi | In file included from arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.c:17: | 09:46 |
| davidqi | /work/arm/kernel/linux-3.0.4/arch/arm/include/asm/glue-df.h:107:2: error: #error Unknown data abort handler type | 09:47 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | i have to go, christmas eve day here today | 09:48 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: my current target is to run ARM11 on QEMU, there is so many guide on the web, but could you please give me a link which could be completed without errors :) | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | if you change console=ttyAMA0,115200n8 instead, you might get better results | 09:48 |
| davidqi | thanks. | 09:48 |
| davidqi | Merry christmas | 09:48 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: You're good fit for playing Santa Claus :) | 10:09 |
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| xerxes2 | Anyone knows what versions of Qt, Python and Gstreamer Jolla will ship with its first device? | 10:14 |
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| Stskeeps | xerxes2: probably a better topic for #jollamobile, but probably 4, 2.7, and 0.10 (but that's a bit up in air) | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | 5 is also available | 10:27 |
| xerxes2 | ok thanks man. | 10:28 |
| xerxes2 | i would expect gstreamer 1.0 though | 10:29 |
| xerxes2 | the other two were expected | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | it depends on a number of factors | 10:30 |
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| xerxes2 | gst-1.0 use introspection for python bindings so we need to know which it's going to be | 10:32 |
| xerxes2 | it's pretty fast to port but still ... | 10:32 |
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| Stskeeps | Morpog: ~what's in mer | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | which is 4.8.3 and soon 4.8.4 | 11:07 |
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| zhxt | Merry Christmas, all! *\(^o^)/* | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | thanks, zhxt | 11:33 |
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| SouL_ | Hey guys | 11:34 |
| iekku_ | hi | 11:34 |
| SouL_ | do yo know a mobile with android that i can install mer? | 11:34 |
| zhxt | Stskeeps: : ) | 11:34 |
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| iekku_ | http://sagestechblog.blogspot.fi/2012/04/booting-nemo-on-galaxy-nexus-i9250.html | 11:39 |
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| SouL_ | Thank you for the link | 11:42 |
| iekku_ | my pleasure | 11:43 |
| SouL_ | I want to buy a mobile but I want to search if it's possible to uninstall android and install something opensource like mer, etc.. | 11:43 |
| iekku_ | n9? | 11:43 |
| iekku_ | :) | 11:43 |
| Venemo | N9! | 11:44 |
| rcg | hey Venemo :) | 11:47 |
| Venemo | hey rcg :) | 11:47 |
| rcg | btw. i hope you all have nice plans for between the years :) | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | i'm working on wayland for libhybris, it's such fun that i'm getting grey hairs | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: merry x-mas | 11:48 |
| Venemo | hey Stskeeps :) | 11:48 |
| Venemo | Merry x-mas to you to Stskeeps | 11:48 |
| Venemo | or shall I say | 11:48 |
| Venemo | MER-ry christmas | 11:49 |
| Venemo | get it? | 11:49 |
| iekku_ | i'm trying not to work :P | 11:49 |
| rcg | Stskeeps, hehe, i see.. working on becoming santa stsclaus ;P | 11:49 |
| iekku_ | Venemo, :) | 11:49 |
| dm8tbr | iekku_: why are you on IRC then? ;) | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: hehe | 11:50 |
| Venemo | :) | 11:51 |
| SouL_ | N9? | 11:53 |
| SouL_ | http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/n9/ | 11:53 |
| SouL_ | This? | 11:53 |
| Venemo | that | 11:53 |
| iekku_ | dm8tbr, wasting time and avoiding to be social? | 11:53 |
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| rcg | Stskeeps, btw. i try to stop hacking myself in favor of spending time with the family but this is so freaking addictive ;) | 11:54 |
| iekku_ | dm8tbr, and mer is hobby, not work :) | 11:55 |
| dm8tbr | rrrright | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | rcg: tell me about it.. :P | 11:56 |
| dm8tbr | .oO(stockholm syndrome) | 11:57 |
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| iekku_ | dm8tbr, :D | 12:03 |
| iekku_ | dm8tbr, i started mer as a hobby, working at jolla doesn't change that | 12:05 |
| Venemo | iekku_: really? | 12:05 |
| iekku_ | even my wife asked me if i'm going to play with nemo or mer during xmas, as it's not counted as working :P | 12:05 |
| iekku_ | Venemo, it's just a jackpot to get paid for working with mer :P | 12:06 |
| iekku_ | i would do that even without payment if i have time | 12:06 |
| rcg | iekku_, hehe, don't you think that she maybe just fears that you will be working on mer instead of spending time with her? ;P | 12:06 |
| SouL_ | What's your opinion about jolla? | 12:07 |
| Venemo | SouL_: half of the people on this channel work for jolla, so their opinion may be biased a bit | 12:07 |
| rcg | at least that's the feeling i get when my fiancee asks me what i will be doing during the hollyday ;) | 12:07 |
| SouL_ | Nice! | 12:08 |
| SouL_ | It's because I'm searching something and I found jolla | 12:08 |
| lbt | afternoon all :) | 12:08 |
| rcg | hey lbt :) | 12:08 |
| iekku_ | rcg, my wife is male and he can play something while i'm doing what ever i want. everyone wins. | 12:08 |
| Venemo | iekku_: why do you call him your "wife" then? | 12:09 |
| * lbt couldn't take the abstinence any longer | 12:09 | |
| lbt | maw_: obs account done - have fun :) | 12:09 |
| rcg | iekku_, nice, just turn the xbox on and have time for hacking :D | 12:09 |
| iekku_ | Venemo, i have my reasons :) | 12:11 |
| iekku_ | rcg, heh | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, cfe locks up with excessive httpd and fails to respond, quite often, restart apache helps | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, vm seems fine | 12:12 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: hmm - OK, will look | 12:12 |
| rcg | and btw., of course do i love to spent time with my fiancee ;) | 12:12 |
| rcg | and no, she is not looking over my shoulder right now :) | 12:12 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: did you notice memory? | 12:12 |
| lbt | and is this ci obs or new cobs ? | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, cobs | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | didn't check memory, but there was 50+ httpd's | 12:13 |
| lbt | ouch | 12:13 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: fyi I've tweaked the apache settings - nothing major, limited max httpd I hope | 13:13 |
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| lbt | my guess is that something is broken wrt downloading large files | 13:14 |
| lbt | iamer knows about this stuff quite a lot | 13:14 |
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| rcg | alright, merry christmas to you all :) | 15:41 |
| rcg | going to have a nice lazy evening with the family | 15:42 |
| rcg | i hope you also take some time off ;) | 15:43 |
| kulve | rcg: nice work with the video :) | 15:43 |
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| faenil | rcg, merry xmas to you and your family too! | 15:50 |
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| rcg | kulve, thx :) | 16:03 |
| rcg | faenil, thx :) | 16:03 |
| rcg | also all the best to your families of course :) | 16:04 |
| rcg | bbl | 16:04 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: Well.. I think you should find a permanent fix for OBS problem, it's down again. | 16:29 |
| * dm8tbr has an dejavu | 16:29 | |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello :) | 17:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Small question | 17:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | especially for you Stskeeps | 17:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | do you know if mer runs on and AMD ? | 17:09 |
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| dm8tbr | Sfiet_Konstantin: depends on what AMD product exactly... | 17:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acer_Iconia_Tab_W500#Iconia_Tab_W500 | 17:09 |
| dm8tbr | a 286 or 386 AMD might be a bit of an issue ;) | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | AMD Fusion C5° | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 50 | 17:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe the graphics driver will be a problem as well | 17:10 |
| dm8tbr | does that have SSSE3? | 17:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | should | 17:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | booting android | 17:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will ceck | 17:11 |
| dm8tbr | then it should work with the 586/686 target | 17:11 |
| dm8tbr | if not you'll need to run 486 target | 17:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | k | 17:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | at least I have a device to hack mer easily :) | 17:12 |
| dm8tbr | with compliments from intel that had to screw around with target configs in MeeGo to lock into their Atom chips... | 17:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ... | 17:12 |
| dm8tbr | I still wonder why Mer never reverted the SSSE3 crap in libc etc... | 17:13 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | it supports SSSE3 | 17:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wondering if the GPU will be supported | 17:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (likely not :D) | 17:15 |
| dm8tbr | GPU is part of hardware adaptation | 17:15 |
| dm8tbr | and HA is not part of mer, that's something 'you bring'. shouldn't be tooo hard? is there an accelerated X11 driver? | 17:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | forgot that :( | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that is part of HW abstract | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will check | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | first boot a "standard" linux on it | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | then build my own kernel :) | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I think that it will be fun :) | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks for the info :) | 17:17 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: we have a i486 and ssse3 port | 17:18 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | know the Acer Iconia tab W500 ? | 17:23 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | a super piece of krap :D | 17:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | seems to be a pretty nice piece of HW to port Mer / Nemo / Sailfish on it | 17:23 |
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| phaeron | dm8tbr: i486 arch is without ssse3 optimization | 17:30 |
| phaeron | you're free to choose i586 or i486 | 17:30 |
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| phaeron | ah was already said, should read more carefully | 17:36 |
| dm8tbr | phaeron / Stskeeps - but is that the only difference? IIRC the forced SSSE3 thing had like no measurable impact on performance. | 17:42 |
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| ShadowJK | iirc intel or trolltech were optimizing cpu hogs in rendering and it brought significant speedup? | 19:24 |
| dm8tbr | bull*** | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | ssse3 does help in some areas, but compiling the entire thing for it? no | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:25 |
| ShadowJK | Probably insignificant without handwritten code, gcc probably does nothing useful from C source | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | (imho) | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | ssse3 that's autodetected and used when available makes sense | 19:25 |
| ShadowJK | Also probably pretty pointless unless you have people actually writing ssse3 code, or have inherited code from upstreams | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | they'd probably have gone 64-bit if it wasn't for flash | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:27 |
| RaYmAn | merry christmas and stuff :) | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | thanks, to you too and sally | 19:30 |
| RaYmAn | thanks :) | 19:31 |
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| ShadowJK | Well also some of the netbook atoms at the time had 64bit disabled | 19:37 |
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| rcg | shmerl, merry xmas and i just wanted to give you a heads up that i fixed the nemo-compatibility stuff ;) | 20:42 |
| shmerl | Ah, thanks! I just was testing that out :) I used old instructions and removed those CE repos manually and used the new one. | 20:44 |
| shmerl | But meego-terminal doesn't seem to work even with the new ones. | 20:44 |
| rcg | hmm i see.. didn't test meego-terminal to be honest | 20:47 |
| rcg | essentially, i tried the app i mention in that comment | 20:47 |
| shmerl | It also misses an icon. I just want to compare it to mobile konsole. | 20:47 |
| shmerl | Ah | 20:47 |
| rcg | and i think it's particularly useful for the most to have twitter and facebook apps ;) | 20:47 |
| rcg | i see | 20:47 |
| shmerl | konsole isn't too touch friendly. | 20:47 |
| shmerl | For example you can't copy text with bringing the context menu by tapping | 20:48 |
| rcg | but an entry appears? so just the icon is missing or is the entry missing altogether | 20:48 |
| rcg | ? | 20:48 |
| shmerl | I think meego terminal allows that | 20:48 |
| shmerl | Yep, the entry appears there. | 20:48 |
| shmerl | "Terminal" | 20:48 |
| shmerl | But it doesn't work either. | 20:48 |
| rcg | alright, i think kasvopus also has the "missing icon issue" | 20:48 |
| rcg | did you give fingerterm a try? | 20:49 |
| rcg | iirc this should work pretty well | 20:49 |
| shmerl | No, I didn't see that one. It's in the repo? | 20:49 |
| rcg | once you have nemo-compatibility installed, it should be | 20:49 |
| shmerl | Ah, I see it. Even xterm is present. | 20:50 |
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| shmerl | For some reason context search is very slow in the applications view. | 20:51 |
| vgrade | happy holidays to eveyone and their families, lets drink to an unlike 2013 | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: thanks | 20:52 |
| shmerl | Nah, I'll test it a bit later. fingerterm gave me "KDEIniti could not launch /usr/bin/invoker" :) | 20:52 |
| shmerl | rcg: FYI, the "Reader" crash is a known issue: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308240 | 20:57 |
| Merbot | KDE bug 308240 in Applications "active-documentviewer crashes by using zoom gestures" [Crash,Confirmed] | 20:57 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, ping | 21:57 |
| faenil | let's see if you're man enough to be active :P | 21:57 |
| SpeedEvil | :-) | 21:58 |
| faenil | SpeedEvil, do you know where the code that handles doubleclick wakeup by any chance? | 22:01 |
| faenil | where is* | 22:01 |
| SpeedEvil | alas, no clue. | 22:02 |
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| faenil | SpeedEvil, alright ;) | 22:03 |
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| rcg | vgrade, also happy holidays to you and your family :) | 22:15 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 23:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | enough fun with Android on that Iconia W500 | 23:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | time for Nemo | 23:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | first question: will it boot :D | 23:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | happy christmas everybody btw :) | 23:03 |
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| rcg | jyfi build.merproject.org seems to be down | 23:57 |
| rcg | *jfyi | 23:57 |
| rcg | it's not reachable neither with osc nor via http | 23:57 |
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