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| situ | Morning all | 01:26 |
| SpeedEvil | morning | 01:27 |
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| koala_ | Hello stskeeps, are you still in? | 01:39 |
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| iekku_ | morning | 05:27 |
| situ | iekku_: Morning | 05:30 |
| Bostik | sappy saturnalia, everyone | 05:37 |
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| situ | Bostik: That was new to me :) | 05:57 |
| * Sage ponders if this is just a dream that he types here. | 05:59 | |
| Sage | didn't world suppose to end bad on some calendar today? | 05:59 |
| chriadam | yeah, the end of the world is today according to the Mayans or something. Or at least, their calendar flips over into a new epoch today, I think. | 06:01 |
| SpeedEvil | epoch fail. | 06:01 |
| Bostik | situ: celebrating winter solstice in any form is perfectly okay, I just like to be honest about it :) | 06:02 |
| Bostik | (and if you're going to be !PC, you might as well be equally offensive to everyone) | 06:03 |
| situ | Sage: and no Google Doodle today :P | 06:08 |
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| Stskeeps | morn all | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: is it normal that build.merproject.org shows it doesn't have any workers? | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:50 |
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| lpotter | did they go on strike ? | 08:52 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: I see one.. | 08:52 |
| kulve | and graphs has never worked I assume.. | 08:52 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: what did you do? | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | nothing! | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:53 |
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| koala_ | hello stskeeps | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | good morning koala_ | 09:01 |
| koala_ | are you busy now? | 09:01 |
| lbt | fixed - swds | 09:01 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: not a lot | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: check scheduler for good measure | 09:02 |
| koala_ | stskeeps: good morning | 09:02 |
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| lbt | doing a quick look round | 09:02 |
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| Chamallow | hello | 10:08 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 10:09 |
| Chamallow | please someone knows how to put mer/nemo in azerty on n900 ? | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | probably editing the setxkbmap thing that's there | 10:09 |
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| Chamallow | thx, i take a look on | 10:10 |
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| rcg | http://ruedigergad.com/2012/12/21/plasma-active-for-nexus-7-running-the-touch-optimized-plasma-active-linux-distribution-on-nexus-7/ | 10:19 |
| rcg | feedback is much appreciated ;) | 10:22 |
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| yunta | wow, ha for nexus 7, awesome! | 10:32 |
| Jope | nice | 10:35 |
| kulve | should work just fine with nemo too | 10:36 |
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| kulve | or better in some sense as I think nemo's window manager and applications are better tuned for opengl es | 10:39 |
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| sledges | good morning¡ | 10:43 |
| sledges | HA Pandaboard: with systemd Xorg fails: first on omap_dri then on (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) | 10:44 |
| sledges | if init=/bin/sh, Xorg starts fine (prolly is using fbdev) | 10:44 |
| kulve | sledges: is that the last error? It may not be fatal | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: not an error | 10:45 |
| sledges | but X doesn't start, got two tuxes on screen | 10:46 |
| sledges | http://pastie.org/5560882 | 10:46 |
| sledges | with init=/bin/sh Xorg starts on same HDMI fine | 10:46 |
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| morphis | Stskeeps: can you tell what MOSLO is? (http://ruedigergad.com/2012/12/21/plasma-active-for-nexus-7-running-the-touch-optimized-plasma-active-linux-distribution-on-nexus-7/) | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | morphis: export emmc over usb practically | 11:33 |
| morphis | ah | 11:33 |
| morphis | it's part of Mer? | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | external project | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | it comes from 'meego os loader' origianlly, which we wrote in meego times | 11:35 |
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| morphis | it's device independent, right? | 11:37 |
| kulve | mostly yes, but it needs kernel support which may not be easy with products on the market | 11:37 |
| morphis | kulve: means kexec? | 11:38 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: did anyone in the team happen to notice (or know in advance) that it nicely shadows moslo.exe from Bad Old Days? :) | 11:38 |
| aard_ | morphis: if 'runs on n9 and n950, and only breaks sometimes' counts as device independent, then yes. other bits only work on systems partitioned like n9, and it's such a big mess that you really don't want to base anything on it | 11:38 |
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| morphis | aard_: ok, I just read the guy ported plasma active to the nexus7 used it and ask me what it is | 11:39 |
| kulve | n7 doesn't have other good ways of getting the rootfs in, thus moslo | 11:40 |
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| morphis | kulve: I like the idea of having a initramfs up which allows modifications to the device | 11:40 |
| kulve | yeah, it's really convenient sometimes | 11:40 |
| aard_ | morphis: yes, though there are a lot better ways to do it than moslo | 11:40 |
| morphis | imho allows you to be more dynamic in OS installation process than just flashing it | 11:41 |
| kulve | aard_: like? | 11:41 |
| morphis | aard_: yeah we're doing in similar in the webOS ports project | 11:41 |
| morphis | like extract a .tar.gz package and then chrooting into it | 11:41 |
| aard_ | kulve: don't do a hard to extend shellscript; use smaller binaries to make it fit into more limited flash (the core functionality is trivial to do in C, only when it comes to partitioning it gets a bit more messy); allow loading of additional modules into the initial rootfs (like, get additional tar.gz from partition or via network) | 11:43 |
| aard_ | last step could make it even smaller, since you could just load the partitioning logic when needed | 11:43 |
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| Sage | kulve: morphis, aard_: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=init&package=ramdisk&project=home%3Asage%3Agn&rev=d20bb6410becd5fe145dae9098208619 ;) | 11:54 |
| morphis | Sage: looks similar to what we use for the gnexus: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-smartphone/blob/webOS-ports/master/meta-samsung/recipes-bsp/chroot-script/chroot-script/tuna/init.sh | 11:55 |
| aard_ | Sage: I still don't get why people don't do that kind of thing in C ;) | 11:56 |
| sledges | why in the world after updating a rootfs partition on host PC, Pandaboard would wait for it forever and not boot: Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2... ? | 11:56 |
| Sage | morphis: well that is also for nexus | 11:56 |
| morphis | yes | 11:56 |
| morphis | it's a little bit less hacky than ours | 11:57 |
| morphis | as ours tries to implement some installation process too | 11:57 |
| morphis | but thats more or less a workaround until we have time to implement something real | 11:57 |
| morphis | Sage: is there some abstraction layer in Mer for USB gadget configuration? | 12:03 |
| morphis | as I am currently trying to find a solution to add an abstraction layer on top of the android USB gadget implementation | 12:04 |
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| Sage | phdeswer: ^ | 12:05 |
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| situ | http://tcrn.ch/WzZ3zg | 12:55 |
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| sledges | fellows, I think I just partially killed (kernel inaccessible, uboot accessible) Pandaboards SD card reader: (on #pandaboard) http://pastie.org/5561416 | 13:38 |
| CosmoHill | sledges: .o/ | 13:38 |
| sledges | with mer :( | 13:38 |
| sledges | have another pandaboard remaining :} | 13:39 |
| CosmoHill | can't you use JTAG ports to fix it? | 13:39 |
| sledges | but what could have possibly gone wrong? the reader is half-dead lol | 13:40 |
| sledges | wouldn't know what to poke from within JTAG | 13:40 |
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| sledges | how can I start Xorg with systemd automatically (or where is it done in Mer) ? | 14:30 |
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| sledges | with non-root uid | 14:30 |
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| Sage | sledges: check xorg-launch-helper | 14:51 |
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| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Tried latest Nemo Mobile today | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 15:03 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:But it's very sensitive to scrolling | 15:03 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:When I want to click on something (for example to launch an app etc.)it scrolls a little bit | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | n900 or n950? | 15:04 |
| Stskeeps | or n9 | 15:04 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:N900 | 15:04 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Making it really hard to select something | 15:04 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:It really spoils the experience | 15:05 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:It looks so nice | 15:05 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:UI good designed and Helium Reborn is really fast :D | 15:05 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Is this some kind of bug | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | mmm, i dont have a n900 handy atm | 15:05 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Isn't there a fix or a config file I can tweak | 15:06 |
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| Superpelican | Stskeeps:To adjust the sensibility | 15:06 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:I saw a YT video from @nsuffys but he didn't seem to have that problem at all | 15:07 |
| veskuh | I think that is the issue with qt_drag_threshold being broken for a while in nemo | 15:07 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:And old Nemo build with old UI seems to work even better | 15:07 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:I think I'm going to try NEMO.2012-07-02.1 | 15:07 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Will all the apps and software also work on older builds? | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | i think veskuh's right on the money and i'm not sure if it's fixed in nemo-n900 yet | 15:10 |
| veskuh | Superpelican you might want to try modifyin QT_USE_DRAG_DISTANCE=12 | 15:10 |
| veskuh | I'm not sure which config file has that on image | 15:10 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:But where do I find it then? | 15:10 |
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| veskuh | Check if you have /etc/sysconfig/nemo-mobile-hw | 15:13 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=nokia-n950-configs&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&rev=8 | 15:13 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:You just beat me ;) | 15:13 |
| veskuh | :) | 15:13 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:Nemo Mobile on microSD saves changes and files, right? | 15:14 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:It's not like a Linux Live USB? | 15:14 |
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| Superpelican | veskuh:So I should set QT_USE_DRAG_DISTANCE to 12 or change it from 12 to something else? | 15:15 |
| veskuh | It could be bigger. | 15:16 |
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| * Superpelican 's N900 is booting Nemo Mobile again | 15:21 | |
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| Superpelican | Red error screen shows up again :( | 15:21 |
| Superpelican | It has booted | 15:21 |
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| * Superpelican thanks Mer & Nemo team for including bash and nano in the Nemo Mobile image | 15:23 | |
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| Superpelican | veskuh:Is that config file you mentioned earlier supposed to be empty | 15:25 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:Or did I just create a new file with Nano? | 15:25 |
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| veskuh | If it is empty just upgrading config package should create it | 15:27 |
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| veskuh | so if you had n900 zypper ref && zypper install nokia-n900-configs | 15:28 |
| veskuh | or other option just manually create the file | 15:29 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:reboot after editing config file? | 15:29 |
| veskuh | yep | 15:30 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:nemo-mobile-hw file didn't exist btw | 15:31 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:so created it with nano | 15:31 |
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| Superpelican | veskuh:It worked! :D | 15:32 |
| veskuh | cool :) | 15:32 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:Nemo works great right now | 15:32 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:Should I file a bug report or something? | 15:32 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:Then the fix can be added to future builds | 15:32 |
| veskuh | Its a known issue, and I think fix is in the next build | 15:33 |
| Superpelican | K | 15:33 |
| Superpelican | veskuh:Is there already a kwown solution for settings no-scroll bug? | 15:35 |
| veskuh | I don't know. | 15:36 |
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| * Superpelican thinks old Nemo UI actually shares design with Sailfish UI | 16:07 | |
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| Stskeeps | well | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | the original meego open handset design was done by the same guy.. | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | i think | 16:09 |
| leinir | Hiring out of the community is a Good Thing(TM) :) | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i meant our chief designer | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:11 |
| leinir | Aah, so not so much "hiring" there ;) | 16:11 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:I just booted Maemo 5 again by running "run noloboot" and now I've to configure the date etc. again (just like when I got my N900) | 16:14 |
| Superpelican | Stskeeps:Is my N900 reseted? | 16:14 |
| dm8tbr | date reconfig is normal if you e.g. remove the battery | 16:16 |
| Superpelican | K, just discovered everything is still as I left it | 16:17 |
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| * Superpelican 's OS keeps openening Nemo Mobile .raw images with Krita | 16:18 | |
| leinir | lol derp ;) | 16:21 |
| leinir | Guess mime magic says that .raw is actually image data :) | 16:22 |
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| kulve | nolo-boot sounds always a bit funny. Nolo is (also) a finnish word meaning "embarrassing" | 16:25 |
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| sledges | how can I make mic produce a rootfs where zypper would inherit all repos from the .ks file? now during runtime zypper lr says no repos defined | 16:29 |
| Superpelican | I've Stskeeps's uboot installed, so I can't install kernel power now anymore, right? | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 16:29 |
| Stskeeps | also, we should discuss nemo in #nemomobile :) | 16:30 |
| vgrade | What a nice birthday surprise, cubieboard arrived | 16:32 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: congratulations on your birthday :) | 16:35 |
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| Stskeeps | even llvm 3.2 came out, maybe it has arm support, finally | 16:35 |
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| sledges | hmm, apparently I was baking from a kickstart which reads ...mer-core..releases.merproject.org/releases/@BUILD_ID@/builds... and it worked (does it substitute it with latest ?) | 16:36 |
| kulve | at least with "--release latest" | 16:37 |
| sledges | no, did not specify that anywhere | 16:38 |
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| sledges | (how in the world did mer-core got installed then? :)) | 16:38 |
| kulve | I'm not sure if the options in start of the .ks are parsed? | 16:38 |
| sledges | got warning from mic Info: Substitute macro variable @BUILD_ID@/@ARCH in ks: .. | 16:38 |
| sledges | nope, nothing relase=latest -related in .ks either %) | 16:39 |
| sledges | but I ignored that warning above. Now re-flashing SD card, will see the differences | 16:40 |
| sledges | (can even meld beforehand) | 16:40 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: thanks, glad to know the world did not end and I missed my jelly and ice cream | 16:42 |
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| sledges | don't say beans or sandwitch, happy holidays & birthday vgrade | 16:43 |
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| vgrade | sledges: cheers | 16:45 |
| sledges | nope, mer-core got picked up fine with @BUILD-ID@ instead of latest either | 16:47 |
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| Stskeeps | evening Venemo | 17:00 |
| CosmoHill | hi Venemo | 17:00 |
| CosmoHill | dammit Stskeeps you beat me | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | when debugging in gdb, try to use the "-" command | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | it looks like a godsend | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:01 |
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| phdeswer | morphis, sorry only saw your question now. | 17:07 |
| phdeswer | I just implemented an android gadget handler in usb_moded (it will need to be recompiled as an android usb_moded version though) | 17:08 |
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| phdeswer | https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-middleware/usb_moded | 17:10 |
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| morphis | phdeswer: thanks will have a look | 17:29 |
| phdeswer | You could fork the package in obs and add --android to the ./configure and you should be fine. | 17:29 |
| phdeswer | It will just seamlessly fit into nemo/mer | 17:30 |
| phdeswer | And the doc subdir has docs if you want to know more. Just have not gotten round to document a few bits. | 17:30 |
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| morphis | phdeswer: ok will give it a try but I am not the Mer guy, I am coming from webOS ports :) | 17:33 |
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| phdeswer | morphis, however you want to use it, it will set-up networking or whatever you want for you. (well need to figure out the mass-storage export setting yet for android) | 17:35 |
| phdeswer | And it is simple c ;) | 17:35 |
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| Stskeeps | evening Sfiet_Konstantin | 17:59 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello Stskeeps | 17:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Looking again at Qt5 vids | 18:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | they are awesome | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | i'm trying to make llvmpipe work with wayland in 1.0.2 and mesa 9.0.1 .. such a headache | 18:00 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... | 18:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't seems to be simple | 18:08 |
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| louisdk | Hi | 19:37 |
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| CosmoHill | hi | 19:39 |
| shmerl | Hi | 19:39 |
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| louisdk | I've tried the latest Memo i586 vm in VirtualBox. Installs and runs fine but after "zypper update" I shutdown and when I then try to boot it it hangs at the MeeGo logo. | 19:40 |
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| Artox | Good Evening. sadly I forgot to take my notes text file with me when traveling so which are the kickstart files to start with for a new device? http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/latest/builddata/image-configs/ or rather http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.2.0/builddata/image-configs/ or are they the same? | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | releases.merproject.org/releases/ :) | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | and don't bother with repo.meego.com | 21:11 |
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| Artox | thx Stskeeps | 21:18 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 23:45 |
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