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| sdqifeng | morning all | 02:12 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:17 |
| Bostik | morning indeed | 04:26 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 05:45 |
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| rcg | morning | 06:36 |
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| special | lbt: Sage: some OBS worker(s) have bad clocks again. | 06:39 |
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| kulve | rcg: good progress you have on the packages :) | 06:49 |
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| kulve | http://tuomas.kulve.fi/tmp/0009-check-getenv-for-videosink.patch | 08:06 |
| kulve | that's the patch I had for qt-mobility to be able to override the default xvimagesink selection | 08:06 |
| Stskeeps | looks sane | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | i could take that into mer | 08:07 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: thanks! | 08:07 |
| phaeron | morning | 08:07 |
| kulve | NULL is a valid parameter as a sink selection, so not having that variable is ok | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | good morning phaeron - had a good travel? | 08:08 |
| phaeron | not really flights were horrible | 08:08 |
| phaeron | I spent most of yesterday recovering , sleeping | 08:08 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: also feel free to select a better name for the env variable | 08:08 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: how did the zypper bug happen :( | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: well, for some reason libsolv didn't get updated as well, or something | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | and some people don't understand the importance of sonames | 08:11 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: but this didn't show up in testing .. | 08:17 |
| phaeron | upgrade only case ? | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: i'm not confident this is a mer bug, fwiw, - there was a nemo repository that held back libzypp or something | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah, we need to do upgrade tests too | 08:17 |
| phaeron | held back ? that sounds weird | 08:18 |
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| Stskeeps | not sure what happened | 08:19 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, there's a tighter binding in the prerelease that came today | 08:20 |
| Stskeeps | QA is welcome, http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20121224.0.1/ | 08:20 |
| phaeron | saw the changelog. will try to do | 08:21 |
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| Stskeeps | where was the rss url again? | 08:24 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: .. so, we have a 5.0.0 qtquick1 tarball that has the .qmake.conf issue? | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:41 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: apparently yes :) | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | well that's just jolly | 08:42 |
| Bostik | "not essential" seems to mean "not working" in this particular case | 08:43 |
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| Stskeeps | well, it was released as a tarball | 08:43 |
| Bostik | I *do* understand that the qt5 guys wanted the release out of the door, and I really do like the fact that qtwebkit no longer hard-depends on as many modules... | 08:43 |
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| Sage | phaeron: there was stuff in vendor that require older libzypper and prevented libzypper update, but nothing prevented libsolv update and it go updated and broke stuff | 08:53 |
| Sage | this was cause by not using repo recompiled properly against new mer stuff (maybe it didn't have time to compile or something) | 08:54 |
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| phaeron | hmm | 09:04 |
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| rcg-work | morning | 09:34 |
| rcg-work | i don't know if kulve already asked this but i think that we are very close to getting a first testing rootfs tarball for pa on nexus7 ready | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 09:36 |
| rcg-work | question is: is there any webspace where we can upload it? | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | well, dm8tbr used to have a good service | 09:36 |
| rcg-work | we also have a .ks file | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | or you can ask the PA guys | 09:36 |
| rcg-work | i see, was wondering if we can put it on the same location as the nemo release snapshots | 09:36 |
| rcg-work | but will ask the pa guys as well | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | we are kinda low on disk space on repository.maemo.org :/ | 09:37 |
| rcg-work | right, i see | 09:37 |
| rcg-work | will bug the guys in #active then ;) | 09:37 |
| * SpeedEvil has not been keeping up. | 09:37 | |
| SpeedEvil | 'pa' ? | 09:37 |
| Stskeeps | plasma active | 09:37 |
| SpeedEvil | ah. | 09:38 |
| Stskeeps | or pulseaudio, depending on perspective | 09:38 |
| SpeedEvil | I would assume the former. :-) | 09:38 |
| rcg-work | perspectively, would it be desirable to integrate the .ks into some autobuilder or so, e.g., for regularly generated snapshots? | 09:38 |
| rcg-work | Stskeeps, hehe right.. too many collisions of acronyms nowdays ;) | 09:38 |
| rcg-work | *nowadays | 09:38 |
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| sledges | goo moorning | 10:16 |
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| dm8tbr | rcg-work: o/ | 10:55 |
| CosmoHill | dm8tbr: \o. | 10:57 |
| dm8tbr | sup cosmo | 10:58 |
| CosmoHill | watching a comic being drawn on livestream, yourself? | 10:58 |
| dm8tbr | busy in the orkplace | 10:59 |
| CosmoHill | need a little helper this xmas? | 10:59 |
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| rcg-work | hey dm8tbr | 11:07 |
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| dm8tbr | rcg-work: so, need space to host something? | 11:09 |
| rcg-work | we are currently figuring out how and where to distribute the rootfs tarball | 11:10 |
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| rcg-work | bbl though | 11:12 |
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| auri__ | lbt_away: how does one read the sshd logs in the VM? | 11:24 |
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| dm8tbr | rcg-work: I have a simple requirement. Stuff must be redistributable and minimal number closed binary bits. | 11:26 |
| dm8tbr | everyone is responsible of fulfilling licensing requirements (sources etc) themselves | 11:27 |
| kulve | as far as I can read the licensing text, it's redistributable. The "usual" bits are close source: opengl, gst video codecs, and their dependencies (and some firmware blobs). E.g. ubuntu is redistributing images for nexus 7 | 11:30 |
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| aportale | Anyone knows how I get MerVM's sshd logs? For some reason I cannot connect via key since Yesterday (after Ubuntu update of host) | 11:32 |
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| dm8tbr | kulve: then it's fine | 11:46 |
| dm8tbr | I'll just need to know responsible people so I can give them accounts on the box for uploading images | 11:46 |
| kulve | dm8tbr: rcg has some options for the site, so let's see. Although the other site would be probably just for PA and Nemo images would need something else | 11:48 |
| * dm8tbr doesn't descriminate ;) | 11:48 | |
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| yunta | hi | 12:23 |
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| koala_ | Hello Stskeeps | 12:25 |
| koala_ | Are you in? | 12:25 |
| yunta | phaeron: Stskeeps: I'd like to host mer-targets.json file (containing list of targets for sdk) somewhere. I tried uploading it to mer wiki, but it doesn't accept json. Any better place? Or chance to enable json uploads on wiki? | 12:25 |
| phaeron | sounds like best place would be top of the repos dir / url | 12:28 |
| yunta | http://repo.pub.meego.com/ ? | 12:29 |
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| yunta | or somewhere in merproject.org ? | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | or releases.merproject.org.. | 12:31 |
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| yunta | sounds good | 12:34 |
| yunta | who has access to that place? | 12:35 |
| phaeron | lbt | 12:35 |
| yunta | damn... | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | me | 12:38 |
| yunta | that's better | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | i'll help with it when i'm at keyboard again | 12:38 |
| yunta | thx | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | kontio: sure | 12:39 |
| kontio | Stskeeps: guess ^ was meant for yunta? | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | er, no | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: sure | 12:41 |
| kontio | :-) | 12:41 |
| kontio | yeah is closer | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: what's up? | 12:51 |
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| francois__ | hello | 13:57 |
| francois__ | I know this is not a glibc channel but I ran into a problem with glibc on mips... | 13:57 |
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| francois__ | thought somebody here might be of good advice :) | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | well, is it mer mips? :P | 14:06 |
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| Artox | anyone in here familiar with this error: as: unrecognized option '-EL' | 14:13 |
| Artox | Happens to me building linux-3.7 with the mersdk for armv7hl using /opt/cross/armv7hl-.... | 14:13 |
| Artox | does it maybe need a newr compiler? | 14:14 |
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| lbt | auri__: back now - had an appt this morning | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | do you use CROSS_COMPILE=/opt/cross/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi- ? | 14:14 |
| lbt | no | 14:15 |
| lbt | :D | 14:15 |
| Artox | ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi- | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | , Artox | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | Artox: you may need /opt/cross/bin/ too? | 14:15 |
| Artox | I expreted PATH=/opt/cross/bin | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | ah, ok | 14:15 |
| Artox | exported* | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | that should really work | 14:15 |
| Artox | also I am not sure if it should say as: or armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-as | 14:16 |
| Artox | shoulödnt it use the armv7hl as? | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | i'd think so too | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | so i'm wondering what goes wrong | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | show me the build log? | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | and make V=1 if possible | 14:17 |
| Artox | http://paste.opensuse.org/59194003 | 14:17 |
| Artox | make -C ../../linux-neil O=`pwd` ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi- V=1 -j1 uImage | 14:18 |
| Artox | need to go. will be back in ~1.5 hours | 14:20 |
| Artox | forgot time | 14:20 |
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| lbt | yunta: yes | 14:48 |
| lbt | tell me when http://releases.merproject.org/sdk/targets.json would change ? | 14:49 |
| lbt | feels like it's a nemo target too | 14:50 |
| yunta | whenever you decide we need a new target in drop-down :) | 14:50 |
| yunta | I personally think it's OK to keep some of mer-derivative targets there | 14:50 |
| yunta | like nemo | 14:50 |
| lbt | for now it's OK | 14:50 |
| yunta | at least for opensource targets | 14:50 |
| lbt | I wonder if it shouldn't support a range of target providers though | 14:50 |
| yunta | well, you can put a list of json files in webapp | 14:51 |
| yunta | it's gonna poll them all | 14:51 |
| lbt | yup | 14:51 |
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| yunta | it's already there (planned) | 14:51 |
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| yunta | s/planned/was expected to be needed, so it got implemented/ | 14:51 |
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| lbt | :) | 14:52 |
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| lbt | http://releases.merproject.org/sdk/ | 14:53 |
| lbt | does it support # comments? | 14:53 |
| yunta | target.json or meta target.json ? :) | 14:54 |
| yunta | (meta being a list of target.json urls) | 14:54 |
| lbt | see http://releases.merproject.org/sdk/targets.json | 14:55 |
| yunta | it's not json with comments | 14:58 |
| yunta | I can make it work just for you | 14:58 |
| yunta | but it's not json anymore then.. | 14:58 |
| yunta | you could just put that in a string as first element of the array | 15:00 |
| yunta | I'll just ignore non-hash elements, or something | 15:00 |
| yunta | otherwise it may be pita later if you decide you need that file in qtcreator or wherever else | 15:01 |
| lbt | yep - it's a tradeoff | 15:01 |
| lbt | I remember doing research on it and found that they were intended but people were abusing it | 15:01 |
| yunta | I have too much of it, so whatever you say - goes | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | Artox: -marmv5t seems .. funny | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | can you try armv7l- and see if it makes more sense? | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | also, don't use PATH, but use full path instead | 15:03 |
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| Stskeeps | like /opt/cross/bin | 15:03 |
| Stskeeps | in CROSS_COMPILE= | 15:03 |
| lbt | yunta: permit comments in the format they are now, # as first char of a line | 15:04 |
| lbt | http://blog.getify.com/json-comments/ | 15:05 |
| yunta | ok | 15:06 |
| yunta | food first though, afk | 15:06 |
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| auri__ | lbt: ping | 15:37 |
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| francois__ | Stskeeps: yes of course it's mer mips :-) | 15:42 |
| francois__ | I wrote a small test program | 15:43 |
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| francois__ | to show what's going on | 15:43 |
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| francois__ | it has something to do with setjmps/longjmps... | 15:44 |
| francois__ | http://pastebin.com/0ZHJ5KTC | 15:45 |
| francois__ | to me there are 2 things wrong | 15:46 |
| francois__ | 1. in glibc: sigsetjmp() does not save the right gp | 15:46 |
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| francois__ | 2. the attempt to restore gp from the stack in the caller of sigsetjmp seems not to be a good thing either | 15:48 |
| francois__ | I get the same code in respect with 2. whether I compile my test program with/without -fPIC | 15:49 |
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| lbt | auri__: pong | 15:52 |
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| auri__ | lbt: how do i read sshd logs in the vm? | 15:56 |
| lbt | journalctl | 15:58 |
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| Superpelican | Today my new microSDHC card arrived! :D | 16:17 |
| Superpelican | Sandisk Mobile Ultra 8GB | 16:17 |
| Superpelican | Turns out to be a Class 10 instead of Class 6 | 16:17 |
| Superpelican | Finally I can try out Nemo Mobile on my N900 | 16:17 |
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| Artox | back. Stskeeps I will check that -march and use a full path soon | 16:21 |
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| Artox | in fact I have no clue where this armv5t comes from (yet) | 16:30 |
| Artox | so | 16:31 |
| Artox | apparently my command has -march=armv5t but also armv7-a | 16:31 |
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| Artox | well | 16:36 |
| Artox | seems the wrong as is beeing used | 16:36 |
| Artox | the one in /usr/bin | 16:36 |
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| Artox | why not the one /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-as | 16:36 |
| Artox | but then, its building scripts/mod/empty which should I suppose be built for teh host | 16:39 |
| Artox | and then it uses the right as but the wrong switch | 16:39 |
| Artox | since the one does not know big/little endian | 16:39 |
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| Artox | I really cant solve it :| apparently many people have this issue every now and then but noone on the internet seems to solve it/understand it. The wrong AS is used but why | 17:26 |
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| Artox | ok | 17:37 |
| Artox | I used a different toolchain outside the mersdk chroot | 17:37 |
| Artox | and same kernel tree builds | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | check eglibc for improvements in this area | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | err.. nm | 17:38 |
| Artox | I may try another toolchain by angstrom project inside the mer chroot | 17:43 |
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| Artox | is there no /bin/init in Mer? | 18:59 |
| Artox | looks like its using systemd | 19:00 |
| ali1234 | it does use systemd - that was inherited from meego | 19:01 |
| Artox | ok | 19:01 |
| Artox | well, my kernel doesnt boot at all so that is not the issue | 19:01 |
| Artox | still a bootloader issue | 19:01 |
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| kulve | hmm.. Can't I see any packages in b.m.o unless logged in? | 20:44 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | we should probably fix that default | 20:46 |
| yunta | lbt: added more commits to pr @ github mer-tools/sdk-webapp | 20:48 |
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| Artox | yay, kernel booted :) | 20:59 |
| Artox | so Mer wnats some special kernel features | 20:59 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, did you find our config checker yet? | 21:00 |
| Artox | no | 21:00 |
| Artox | I havbe no clue on anything about Mer | 21:00 |
| Artox | just compiled a 3.7.0 kernel for my device | 21:00 |
| Artox | and amde it boot | 21:01 |
| kulve | https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check/blob/master/mer_verify_kernel_config | 21:01 |
| lbt | yunta: ty - wife's birthday too today so not doing much :) | 21:01 |
| kulve | there's a list of needed features at the end | 21:01 |
| Artox | thank you :) | 21:01 |
| yunta | lbt: cool, have fun, congrats to your wife | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: say congrats to denise from me and bogna | 21:02 |
| lbt | ty both - I will | 21:02 |
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| Artox | and I wondered where to find how the n900 PVR modules are generated(the source and version) and where the GLES binaries are taken from | 21:14 |
| Artox | I do have a version of both things on my pc but no clue if its the right one yet | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | don't bother with those, instead, have a chat with Sage on how to use your own 3d libraries | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | they're really screwed in terms of what kernel features are needed, so | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | it stems from an internal nokia build, so | 21:15 |
| Artox | aha | 21:15 |
| Artox | so I will try with my graphcis SDK by TI | 21:15 |
| Artox | just thought it may be easier because apparently n900 uses a very equal gpu | 21:16 |
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| Stskeeps | you're on the gta04 btw? | 21:17 |
| Artox | yea | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:18 |
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| Artox | so it booted till "Reached target Graphical Interface" | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | what .ks are you using? | 21:25 |
| Artox | I was using nemomobile | 21:26 |
| Artox | nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1.ks | 21:26 |
| Stskeeps | when making new hardware adaptation: always start from mer core, get up to xorg working, and mer-gfx-tests 's glestests working | 21:26 |
| Stskeeps | it simplifies matters a lot | 21:26 |
| Artox | then where would I find an image for that? | 21:27 |
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| Artox | or a .ks | 21:27 |
| Artox | though nolw going to try to get powervr modules | 21:27 |
| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20121205.1/kickstarts/ | 21:27 |
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| Artox | ah | 21:29 |
| Artox | well, will do so | 21:29 |
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