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| situ | Morning all | 05:30 |
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| Superpelican_ | Stskeeps: How's Nemo Mobile batterylife when compared to Maemo 5? | 06:24 |
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| Stskeeps | Superpelican_: maemo5's a product, nemo is a community driven project | 06:50 |
| Stskeeps | maemo5 obviously had more testing into it, so it's probably better | 06:50 |
| kulve | nowdays one big thing influencing the battery life is activity. If your apps are completely idle, the cpu sleeps and the overall consumption is really low. But if there's multiple applications doing something even once per minute, the overall consumption is significantly higher | 06:53 |
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| ka6sox | kulve, why significantly higher? sleepd should put it back in a low power mode quickly after that 1x/minute event | 07:28 |
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| kulve | not quickly enough | 07:31 |
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| Bostik | morning guys | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | morn bostik | 09:23 |
| Bostik | try to make one short trip to town and it still takes 2h... | 09:27 |
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| ShadowJK | It's all about the total number of wakeups :) | 09:37 |
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| ShadowJK | On N900+Maemo5: "while true; do sleep 5 ; done" (sleep 5s, do nothing, repeat) uses about 3 times more power than idle :) | 09:39 |
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| ShadowJK | One thing waking up once a minute isn't a big impact, but if there are several things waking up, it starts adding up :) | 09:41 |
| kulve | I would guess that it's same on all platforms. Just on some platforms with limited multitasking it's easier to limit the wakeups because there's not so many 3rd party apps running in the background | 09:41 |
| ShadowJK | yeah | 09:41 |
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| ShadowJK | I suspect maemo5 is better than others at this, because it was designed to not limit multitasking | 09:42 |
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| rcg-work | morning all | 09:53 |
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| rcg-work | Sage, could you also have a look at: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/7557 | 10:01 |
| rcg-work | i need this as dependency for the upcoming qtodo version | 10:01 |
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| Sage | rcg-work: sure | 10:07 |
| Sage | seems ok now accepted | 10:08 |
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| rcg-work | Sage, thanks :) | 10:08 |
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| niqt_ | hi rcg | 10:42 |
| rcg-work | hey niqt_ | 10:44 |
| rcg-work | morning sledges | 10:44 |
| niqt_ | rcg are you developing with mer-qtcreator? | 10:49 |
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| rcg-work | niqt_, nope | 11:00 |
| rcg-work | am currently messing with nexus7 moslo and pa on n7 | 11:00 |
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| kysse | MESS WITH IT. | 11:03 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: one thing picked up from qt-releasing which might be interesting for you - qtquick1 is not part of -rcX; hence, no guarantees when it'll get updated to work with essential modules | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, figured as much | 11:10 |
| kulve | Sage: I created the packages to :devel and not to :stable. I guess that was a mistake? | 11:11 |
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| Sage | kulve: use :devel only for now | 11:12 |
| kulve | ok, then I did the right thing :) | 11:12 |
| Sage | yes :) | 11:12 |
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| kulve | is there some automatic way of adding those package groups to repos from patterns.xml? I.e. some specifically named components or do I need to run manually "osc meta pattern" for each repo? | 12:05 |
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| Sage | kulve: there is automatic way to do that yes. | 12:20 |
| Sage | kulve: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-patterns/tree/patterns-n950 for example is for n950 | 12:21 |
| Sage | it is packaged and then the package is put to the repository and boss automatically does the patterns | 12:21 |
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| sivang | discussion welcome, http://www.mail-archive.com/mer-general@lists.merproject.org/msg01012.html | 12:24 |
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| kulve | Sage: thanks | 12:25 |
| situ | Stskeeps: Congrats, so you're now a chief engineer. | 12:25 |
| Stskeeps | situ: thanks | 12:26 |
| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: congrats | 12:26 |
| Bostik | putting the 'pro' back in 'propellerhead'? | 12:26 |
| Bostik | and that was NOT an insult | 12:27 |
| sivang | congrets, but you were already cheif architect right? | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | no | 12:27 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm project architect in mer, but at jolla i was just an engineer | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | now i'm chief research engineer, or something | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:28 |
| * sivang bows and causes a Jolla tide for Stskeeps | 12:28 | |
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| Sage | kulve: that git tree is using tag_git script for packaging | 12:29 |
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| Bostik | the things we do... /tmp/gold/ld: fatal error: libQt5WebKit.so.5.0.0: mmap: failed to allocate 585291404 bytes for output file: Cannot allocate memory | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | how about we just ditch the debug symbols? | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:55 |
| * Bostik finds a bigger pen | 12:56 | |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: we already do :) | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | .. | 12:56 |
| Bostik | that is without debug symbols, with symbol filter, and with gold | 12:56 |
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| Bostik | let's see if I can drop all the fancy stuff out (again) | 13:00 |
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| sivang | has anybody done work already on supporting the HTML5/JS developer story in Qt Creator btw? | 13:09 |
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| rozhkov_ | Sage: is it possible to get debugsymbols for connman packaged? | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | /etc/zypp/repos.d | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | enable the debug repo in mer-core.repo | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | zypper ref | 13:21 |
| rozhkov_ | Stskeeps: thanks! | 13:21 |
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| aportale | Anyone who had this issue with the SDK Control Center? http://pastie.org/5552665 | 13:23 |
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| bfederau_ | Sorry for asking again. I need some help setting up a local Mer OBS. I don't find any error message in the OBS log files, but the spinner of the build result box in the project is permantently running and I get no results. I have no idea where to look to solve this issue. | 13:47 |
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| Stskeeps | bfederau_: check backend logs? | 13:48 |
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| bfederau_ | Stskeeps: yeah. one othe last entris look like "POST localhost:5352/search/request?match=% ....... 200" | 13:50 |
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| Stskeeps | bfederau_: is anything listneing on localhost 5352? | 13:50 |
| bfederau_ | Stskeeps: netstat says: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5352 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN | 13:51 |
| bfederau_ | Stskeeps: and I thought that the number 200 in the log means HTTP code 200 for everything ok | 13:53 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: Something's strange is happening with MAKEDEV package. I'm unable to git clote its repo. | 14:09 |
| [ol] | git clone ssh://ol@review.merproject.org:29418/mer-core/MAKEDEV | 14:10 |
| [ol] | Cloning into 'MAKEDEV'... | 14:10 |
| [ol] | fatal: '/mer-core/MAKEDEV': not a Gerrit project | 14:10 |
| [ol] | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly | 14:10 |
| [ol] | I was thinking that it was removed, but no, it's here: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/MAKEDEV.git;a=summary | 14:10 |
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| Sage | isn't MAKEDEV obsoleted? | 14:21 |
| [ol] | Sage: May be it is, but udev requires it. | 14:22 |
| [ol] | Should I remove this requirement from udev's spec file? | 14:23 |
| Sage | umm... | 14:24 |
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| Sage | [ol]: udev was merged to systemd and those shouldn't depend it anymore | 14:25 |
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| [ol] | Sage: Do you mean, we don't need udev package anymore? | 14:26 |
| CosmoHill | sage, have you heard about eudev? | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: /me looks | 14:30 |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: uhhh.. | 14:32 |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: that works for me. let me look at permissions | 14:39 |
| Sage | [ol]: yes we have udev package but it is provided by systemd | 14:40 |
| Sage | [ol]: see http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/systemd.git;a=summary | 14:40 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: we should really start marking packages obsoleted and remove the content from the git trees and adding obsoleted info file or something | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: try now? | 14:42 |
| Sage | I think there is alrady ~10 not used packages in that gitweb | 14:42 |
| [ol] | Are you sure that udev is obsolete? I see udev package in Fedora. | 14:42 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: udev binary package, not source package | 14:42 |
| [ol] | And it was built from udev SRPM, not systemd. | 14:42 |
| Sage | [ol]: what version? see http://lwn.net/Articles/490413/ | 14:43 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: Now cloning MAKEDEV works. | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: ok, i messed up permissions - sorry about that | 14:43 |
| Stskeeps | and thanks for noticing | 14:43 |
| vgrade_ | Qt5.0 FINAL | 14:43 |
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| Stskeeps | finally | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:44 |
| [ol] | Should we switch to Qt5? | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | we provide qt4 and qt5 side by side | 14:45 |
| [ol] | Is Qt5 source compatible to Qt4? | 14:46 |
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| Bostik | mostly | 14:46 |
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| [ol] | That's great! This means that there's no need to keep Qt4 for compatibility. | 14:47 |
| Stskeeps | well, in practice you do | 14:48 |
| [ol] | There's still qt3 package in Fedora. And some packages still depend on it... | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | some will want to still build qt4-mer products, so | 14:49 |
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| [ol] | Uh oh... "udev < 184 is obsoleted by (installed) systemd-187-1.x86_64" | 14:56 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: I have all packages from the list you provided built successfully. | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | congratulations :) | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | let's start with patches to gerrit and get those in, then i can load in them to a obs and kickstart the build | 14:59 |
| vgrade_ | looks like qtwebkit has been split up into qtwebkit1/2 | 15:00 |
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| vgrade_ | ignore me, its still one lump | 15:04 |
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| Stskeeps | i think it might make sense, if possible, to build them independently.. | 15:05 |
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| Bostik | vgrade_: webkit2 is the split-process plugin system, but the Qt part has indeed been split into "just core" and "UI parts" | 15:33 |
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| Bostik | FFS! | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 15:36 |
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| Bostik | dom/Document.h and webkit2<->fullscreen-api stuff again | 15:37 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 15:37 |
| Bostik | I should have most of tomorrow free for looking into that finally with proper thought | 15:38 |
| Bostik | that jungle of multiple build-system configs and indirections needs more than a machete | 15:38 |
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| Stskeeps | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtCLucene | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | ah, nm | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | patch issue | 15:40 |
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| rcg | Sage, on b.m.o you have busybox in the nemo:devel:hw:n950-n9 project | 19:00 |
| rcg | however, we also use it for the nexus7 moslo | 19:00 |
| Sage | yes, well it is because of moslo requirement | 19:00 |
| rcg | would a nemo:devel:hw:common project make sense? | 19:01 |
| Sage | well, there isn't much things like that really. busybox is something that should go to mer core | 19:01 |
| rcg | alright | 19:01 |
| rcg | so i will upload a busybox into the n7 hw adaptation for now | 19:01 |
| Sage | just needs quite a lot of packaging and conditions in place. | 19:02 |
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| rcg | once there is a busybox in mer core i would check if the n7 moslo also works with this one and delete the n7 specific package then | 19:02 |
| rcg | does this make sense to you? | 19:02 |
| Sage | yes | 19:03 |
| Sage | same thing with n950 | 19:03 |
| Sage | also the mtev xorg driver just went to mer core so we can drop that soon from those projects as well | 19:03 |
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| rcg | ah, nice | 19:04 |
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| rcg | wrt kexec stuff, we use some special patches to enable kexec hardboot | 19:04 |
| Sage | there has been quite a lot of temporary solutions but while the adaptation amount increases we get better in this | 19:04 |
| rcg | alright | 19:04 |
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| rcg | basically i want to reduce unneeded duplication and wanted to give a heads up so that you are aware of this | 19:05 |
| Sage | sure | 19:05 |
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| Sage | doing a :hw:common would be very hard to handle in general. hw adaptations seem to have < 20 packages in them and some of these are binary blobs that require certain versions of certain libs etc. | 19:07 |
| Sage | for example for n9xx-common there is libnl1 because of binary file requirement | 19:07 |
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| rcg | alright, makes sense | 19:09 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 19:20 |
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| Stskeeps | evening shmerl | 19:21 |
| shmerl | Hi Stskeeps. Was lbt around? | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | unsure | 19:23 |
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| lbt | shmerl: hey | 19:46 |
| shmerl | lbt: Hi. I tested that RPM (for base SDK, i486). | 19:46 |
| shmerl | The target though can't be updated. | 19:46 |
| shmerl | Since RPM itself doesn't work with that bug | 19:46 |
| shmerl | Even manually and after rebuidling RPM db. | 19:47 |
| lbt | 553 ? | 19:47 |
| shmerl | I guess I can update the files purely by hand | 19:47 |
| shmerl | But #654 | 19:47 |
| shmerl | *Bug #654 | 19:48 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 654 in zypper "zypper: double free or corruption Aborted" [Major,Resolved: fixed] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=654 | 19:48 |
| lbt | hmm - I had the same bug and rpm worked | 19:49 |
| shmerl | for the target? | 19:49 |
| lbt | ok - so maybe rm -f /var/lib/rpm/_db* | 19:49 |
| lbt | also - is this on device? | 19:50 |
| lbt | I got the problem on my 950 | 19:50 |
| shmerl | I.e. sb2 -m sdk-install -R rpm -Uhv ... | 19:50 |
| shmerl | No, it's in the chroot SDK | 19:50 |
| lbt | oh | 19:51 |
| lbt | right - I saw the n900 in the text | 19:51 |
| shmerl | That's for Nemo/N950 target under chroot. | 19:51 |
| rcg | what's the api url for b.m.o? | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: btw, whenever you're ready, a prerelease would b e nice | 19:52 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: ok | 19:52 |
| rcg | i can't seem to find it | 19:52 |
| shmerl | But the base was udpated first: libsolv-tools libsolv0 libudev systemd systemd-sysv | 19:52 |
| lbt | rcg: https://api.merproject.org/ | 19:52 |
| rcg | lbt, thanks | 19:52 |
| lbt | shmerl: OK - so the bug's confusing - it doesn't mention sb2 | 19:53 |
| shmerl | Well, the one I filed - does. | 19:53 |
| shmerl | bug #655 | 19:53 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 655 in SDK "zypper refresh through sb2 fails with segfault for Nemo target" [Normal,Assigned] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655 | 19:53 |
| shmerl | They seem to coinsided. | 19:54 |
| lbt | ok - no, it wasn't a dupe of 654 :) | 19:54 |
| shmerl | OK :) | 19:54 |
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| lbt | ok - so maybe rm -f /srv/mer/targets/XXXXX/var/lib/rpm/_db* | 19:55 |
| lbt | or sb2 -m sdk-install -R rm -f /var/lib/rpm/_db* | 19:56 |
| lbt | then rebuilddb | 19:56 |
| shmerl | OK, I'll try that (a bit later). | 19:56 |
| lbt | I think we're going to have a general problem with the SDK moving from x86 __db* to native ones | 19:57 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: target date? | 20:02 |
| lbt | what's planned to go in it? | 20:03 |
| lbt | and pre-release or snapshot? | 20:03 |
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| Stskeeps | prerelease | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | will you be around on 24/12? ;) | 20:04 |
| lbt | yeah | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | k, well, let's make it then then | 20:05 |
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| lbt | off it goes | 20:15 |
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| Stskeeps | thank you | 20:34 |
| Sage | lbt: we need to fix zypper libzypp libsolv chain a bit more imo | 20:39 |
| Sage | lbt: adding explicit requirements "Requires: x = version_of_x" to zypper -> libzypp -> libsolv | 20:39 |
| lbt | OK - why? | 20:40 |
| Sage | that would make sure in the future that each one of those is build against each other and this would not happen | 20:40 |
| Sage | there was somekind of abi break apparently that broke when people got updates for only part of that chain | 20:41 |
| lbt | from what I recall from yesterday, the chain looked well specified now | 20:42 |
| Sage | well, one can update libsolv alone atm. | 20:44 |
| lbt | no, libsolv and -tools must match now | 20:44 |
| Sage | yes. well I meant those two | 20:44 |
| Sage | i.e., take old image and you can do rpm -Uvh libsolv0 libsolv-tools | 20:44 |
| lbt | and must be Requires: libsolv-tools >= 0.1.0 for libzypp | 20:44 |
| Sage | that doesn't prevent updating libsolv and breaking libzypp with that | 20:45 |
| lbt | well, technically I suppose we should do Requires: libsolv-tools >= 0.1.0, libsolv-tools < 0.2.0 for libzypp | 20:46 |
| lbt | but rpm isn't as good as ruby ;) | 20:46 |
| lbt | I also don't see an explicit zypper depenendcy on libzypp - is that autprov ? | 20:47 |
| Sage | yes that is | 20:47 |
| Sage | but for libsolv there isn't such thing which was the cause of the break | 20:48 |
| lbt | no, it goes via -tools | 20:48 |
| lbt | so in theory there isn't actually an abi - not if it uses -tools ? | 20:48 |
| Sage | I think you are missing my point :) | 20:49 |
| lbt | could be | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | either way, libsolv should have upped their soname if they upped api | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | er, abi | 20:49 |
| lbt | do zypp and solv both assume a binary format and not use shared code? | 20:50 |
| Sage | yes, that too. But I was saying that we could prevent it anyway with explicit ver dependencies | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | might make sense to tighten it, yes | 20:50 |
| Sage | libsolv, libzypp and zypper are anyway very tight to each other. | 20:50 |
| lbt | so tighter than Requires: libsolv-tools >= 0.1.0 | 20:51 |
| Sage | The problem we had now was that vendors used stuff that wasn't build against the same core. Thus there was dependnecy from package X to libzypp version x.y. Which prevented libzypp update but libsolv got upated fine as there wasn't anything preventing that | 20:51 |
| Sage | lbt: you still miss the point here :) | 20:51 |
| Sage | lbt: if it is >= you can always install newer libsolv* that might break stuff without anyone complaining | 20:52 |
| lbt | you can also install a bug-fixed libsolv without having to redo zypper | 20:52 |
| Sage | Thus I would suggest using %define libsolv-version %{expand:%(rpm -q --qf '[%%{version}]' libsolv0)} | 20:53 |
| Sage | and then using that as requirement. | 20:53 |
| lbt | so you're re-inventing soname as an rpm macro? | 20:53 |
| Sage | well, I'm just saying that zypper is one of the components that should never break in updates as it gets the updates. | 20:54 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: nah, a tighter binding | 20:55 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: libfoo.so.1 can be anything | 20:55 |
| Stskeeps | package = %{libsolv-version} is "it needs to be this binary" | 20:55 |
| lbt | I guess if it's a special case for a sensitive package | 20:55 |
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| Sage | also I only saying %{version} there which still allows rebuilds to be installed as it doesn't do -%{release} though not sure if that should be there as well | 20:56 |
| Sage | lbt: yes, this is a bit special case imo. | 20:56 |
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| lbt | and this is libzypp -> libsolv | 20:59 |
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| _Thomas | Does anyone here have an idea if QT5 has a rendering backend for OpenGLES2? If all I want is one app running on my device, I don't see X11 as a good option? | 21:08 |
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| Sage | yes, zypper -> libzypp works as they change so on each version /usr/lib/libzypp.so.1200 is 12.2.0 | 21:08 |
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| vgrade | _Thomas: sure does, look at eglfs. match with framebuffer gles/egl drivers | 21:25 |
| vgrade | _Thomas: also we have qtwayland running on eglfs on Pi | 21:26 |
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| vgrade | _Thomas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4yrJiDH2LI | 21:29 |
| vgrade | _Thomas: also https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr project is designed for that usecase | 21:31 |
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| shmerl | vgrade: Do you think Nvidia will start supporting Wayland for Tegra too? | 21:33 |
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| _Thomas | vgrade: Someone should do that our dongle ;) | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | mali used to have a wayland compositor at st-e i thinjk | 21:42 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: I heard about it too, but I don't know the state | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, this was ages ago | 21:44 |
| _Thomas | Stskeeps: I talked to the guy that wrote it at Linaro Connect | 21:44 |
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| _Thomas | We chatted about it briefly while talking about a different topic | 21:44 |
| Stskeeps | anyway.. it should be possible to do with mali sources, not exactly rocket science with hwmem/ump/etc | 21:45 |
| _Thomas | No, but is it better to do qtwayland than qteglfs / directfb? | 21:46 |
| Stskeeps | well, for one app it doesn't matter | 21:48 |
| Stskeeps | for multiple, it atters | 21:48 |
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| Stskeeps | eglfs basically means "put this on framebuffer", ish :P | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | fullscreen egl, etc | 21:49 |
| _Thomas | EGLFS means EGL FullScreen, I found out | 21:49 |
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| _Thomas | But they combine EGLFS and DirectFB also? | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | you can, but i've never used that personally | 21:49 |
| _Thomas | So basically, if you want more than one app, and don't care about x11, qtwayland is the better route? | 21:50 |
| _Thomas | Is wayland mature enough? | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | yes, if you can get proper wayland support for your gfx stack, it's better to go that way | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | i mean, you don't need a full KDE on there.. :P | 21:51 |
| _Thomas | I take it that qtwebkit and all the other bells and whistles of Qt works on any backend? | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | i can't speak for qtwebkit as it's a monster, but yeah, that's the idea | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | QPA in qt abstracts it out nicely | 21:52 |
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| shmerl | wayland is considered to have a stable release now, so they are making 1.0.x releases. | 21:56 |
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| shmerl | If you use wayland you can get all their potential future addons with it. (Like network transparency for example). Otherwise - you are on your own. | 21:58 |
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| _Thomas | shmerl: Wayland is considered to have a stable protocol | 22:02 |
| _Thomas | shmerl: That is why they are making 1.x releases | 22:02 |
| shmerl | Right, they are still going to add features. | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't take much for the actual buffer sharing anyway | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | one of my implementations is <300 lines of code, when using gralloc and android native handles | 22:03 |
| shmerl | Here is an interesting example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8zwnqKysfI&t=1h11m51s | 22:07 |
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| [ol] | Do you guys know, is there any macro in Mer rpm to check whether the package is built in Mer? (Like %{fedora} on Fedora, %{rhel) on Red Hat, %{suse_version} on SUSE.) | 22:15 |
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| _Thomas | Wayland + Weston seems really cool :) | 22:22 |
| Stskeeps | you should see qml compositor then.. | 22:23 |
| Stskeeps | did you see the wolfenstein compositor? | 22:23 |
| _Thomas | no? :) | 22:23 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FjuPn7MXMs | 22:23 |
| _Thomas | cool :) | 22:26 |
| _Thomas | But I guess you need to recompile all apps to run on top of wayland, right? :) | 22:26 |
| _Thomas | And maybe rewrite? | 22:26 |
| Stskeeps | well, if they're qt5 already, then no | 22:27 |
| Stskeeps | it's abstracted in qpa | 22:27 |
| _Thomas | ok | 22:27 |
| Stskeeps | you normally attack the problem at toolkit side | 22:27 |
| Stskeeps | gtk, qt, etc | 22:27 |
| _Thomas | and I guess qt is the one that is most mature? | 22:27 |
| Stskeeps | it depends on definition but it's okay well along | 22:28 |
| Stskeeps | i think the gtk guys also did a pretty good job but ubuntu doesn't seem to want to enable it in their packages | 22:28 |
| Stskeeps | .. if you trust phoronix | 22:28 |
| shmerl | Wolf compositor, lol :) | 22:29 |
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| _Thomas | So, the ideal would be if there was a distribution for ARM-based platforms that had all this | 22:30 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, well, mer comes with wayland oob | 22:32 |
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| Stskeeps | soon final qt5 too | 22:32 |
| _Thomas | is there an howto somewhere on how to build qt5 from scratch? I tried searching on the wiki for qt, but didn't find any | 22:33 |
| _Thomas | (I was hoping for x-compiling) | 22:33 |
| Stskeeps | look at guides for rpi maybe | 22:34 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: Since qt5 just went stable, do you think Jolla will be able to be base Sailfish on it out the box too, or only in subsequent releases? | 22:36 |
| Stskeeps | dunno | 22:39 |
| shmerl | Looks a bit tight. But qt5 and qt4 will be able to coexist? So even if it'll be based on qt4, one could pull qt5 from Mer repo, and use it there? | 22:40 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 22:42 |
| shmerl | That's good. | 22:44 |
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| SpeedEvil | Stskeeps: cool! (wolf3d) | 22:52 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 23:56 |
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