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situ | Morning all | 05:56 |
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lpotter | hi | 06:03 |
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timoph | morn | 06:07 |
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Bostik | ah well, finally managed to go through all of the qt5 build oddities | 06:09 |
Bostik | let's see what releasing@ has to say | 06:09 |
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situ | Bostik: Nice | 06:14 |
situ | Does that include QtWebkit too ? | 06:14 |
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Bostik | situ: not yet, it's missing the -rc2 tag from git | 06:16 |
Bostik | situ: this is about the freaky "missing .qmake.conf" errors, which appears even in some modules that have the -rc2 tag | 06:17 |
Bostik | I will get to qtwebkit eventually, don't worry :) | 06:17 |
situ | :) | 06:18 |
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Bostik | that does it, the updater script for qt5 really needs a thorough rewrite | 07:01 |
dm8tbr | mrng frm CPH | 07:02 |
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Stskeeps | Bostik: want my tarball of local changes?: | 07:04 |
Stskeeps | :P | 07:04 |
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Bostik | Stskeeps: I think I'll write a new one from scratch, and as a personal remedy against headaches, go with python this time | 07:20 |
Stskeeps | ok | 07:20 |
Stskeeps | please take what i have as inspiration :) | 07:20 |
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Stskeeps | a couple of new features in there that are very useful | 07:21 |
Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/modular-qt-specs-dec17.tar.gz | 07:21 |
Bostik | the repository handling logic is something which needs tender care | 07:21 |
Stskeeps | as i also support tarballs, or 'dont make a changelog', etc | 07:21 |
Bostik | yummy | 07:22 |
Stskeeps | but yeah, we need a rewrite | 07:22 |
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kontio | phaeron: RFC: https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-infrastructure-tools/boss-standard-workflow/merge_requests/6 (version 3), changed to use a flag after your input | 08:05 |
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phaeron | morning | 08:40 |
phaeron | kontio: thanks will look | 08:40 |
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lbt | morning al | 09:47 |
lbt | l | 09:47 |
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veskuh | lbt, morning, any progress with zypper issue? | 09:52 |
lbt | since I went to sleep you mean? ;) | 09:52 |
lbt | (on thursday) | 09:53 |
lbt | nah - we had some chat here last night about it - I have it very high on my TODO though - so I'll be on it during today | 09:53 |
veskuh | lbt, yeah, I tried normal images also on VM and zypper didn't work on those either. so I guess it something more difficult than just missing package | 09:55 |
lbt | I'm actually worrying about the recent libsolv updates | 09:55 |
veskuh | lbt, also rpm doesnt work so only option for development is really to have all necessary -dev packages on the target image | 09:56 |
lbt | well yeah - but it's just a bug so that's just a workaround | 09:58 |
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yunta | hi | 10:08 |
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lbt | hey yunta | 10:21 |
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sledges | mood morning! | 11:13 |
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sivang | mold morning sledges :) | 11:18 |
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yunta | lbt: github, pr, not urgent | 11:37 |
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CosmoHill | morning | 11:41 |
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situ | Interesting http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248824/Airbag-dropped-smartphones-invented-Amazon-patents-airbag-air-jet-mobile-phones.html | 11:45 |
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sledges | looks like April Fools :)) | 11:52 |
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CosmoHill | what happens is you throw your phone to someone? | 11:58 |
CosmoHill | or you jump | 11:58 |
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iekku | time for mer bug triage | 12:01 |
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iekku | CosmoHill, ? | 12:07 |
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CosmoHill | you'll need it :) | 12:07 |
iekku | :D | 12:07 |
iekku | thanks :) | 12:08 |
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iekku | CosmoHill, could you please pass more? | 12:10 |
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iekku | \o/ | 12:11 |
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bfederau_ | Hey. I want ot build my Qt5 beta 1 packages against Mer-Core 0.20120816.1 armv7l release and I get the following error: xml/qxmlstream_p.h:757:12: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault. Is this a known issue? | 12:47 |
bfederau_ | btw. building against 0.20121205.1 works fine... | 12:47 |
lbt | bfederau_: I think we use a newer toolchain because of some issues in Qt5 | 12:50 |
Bostik | namely that bug, which I remember not-so-fondly | 12:50 |
sivang | lbt: task #97 seems WIP or already done? | 12:51 |
yunta | lbt: is target->toolchain a many to one relation, or are there situations where using different toolchains for a single target make sense? | 12:51 |
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lbt | sivang: bug 97 is not part of our day-2-day process yet | 12:53 |
Merbot | Mer bug 97 in Other "Process to track upstream releases (cf debian)" [Task,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97 | 12:53 |
lbt | yunta: many:1 .... a target has object code in it | 12:53 |
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* lbt quietly ignores multi-arch targets :) | 12:54 | |
lbt | which Mer doesn't support | 12:54 |
yunta | ah, if it doesn't - I'm good | 12:54 |
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yunta | I was worried it may be useful with i*86 archs... | 12:55 |
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lbt | lets assume not | 12:56 |
yunta | ok | 12:56 |
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Mirv | Bostik: tell me if you have functional qttools rc build, last time I had some weird error with that :) | 13:10 |
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Bostik | Mirv: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?project=home%3Abostik%3AQt5a1 have fun, needed just one trivial patch | 13:13 |
Bostik | Mirv: something which complained about missing "compress2" symbol, perhaps? | 13:14 |
Bostik | that's what my patch addresses | 13:14 |
bfederau_ | my dilemma is that I need Mer with Qt5 on a beagleboard xM and the combination of xorg-server version 13 and the xorg-x11-drv-omapfb doesn't work for me. When I start the xserver I get "omapdss DPI error: failed to enable display: no manager". With the 0.20120816.1 Mer release it works but Qt5 can be build against this release. Does someone made some experiences with the xorg omapfb driver and the current Mer release? Every hint is welcome. :) | 13:15 |
Bostik | Mirv: the problem is that something in modular and/or cross-build with -system-zlib triggers a hiccup - libQt5Bootstrap.a uses zlib but the files that generate link-time references don't inlude -lz | 13:15 |
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Mirv | Bostik: no, it was about some complaint about missing target library, which seemed a path problem coming from $somewhere but which wasn't visible elsewhere. that was RC1, though. | 13:27 |
Mirv | Bostik: ok, interesting... I'm building with native ARM boards, though | 13:28 |
Bostik | crunch-crunch-crunch-..... webkit | 13:30 |
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Mirv | I can confirm the compress2 symbol problem on qttools rc2, although against qtbase rc2 + qtdeclarative rc1 | 14:04 |
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faenil | o/ good afternoon | 14:05 |
Mirv | interestingly, the patch doesn't seem to be enough for me. anyway, drifting a bit off-topic since I'm not building for Mer to be precise | 14:06 |
Stskeeps | meh, it's qt5 :) | 14:07 |
Stskeeps | tizen maintainers could come here for all i cared | 14:07 |
Mirv | #mer - the global Qt5 hub | 14:09 |
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Bostik | Mirv: building qt5 is always an adventure - no matter what projection your map uses, the only constant thing is a big red dot with the text "YOU ARE LOST" | 14:24 |
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* jonwil is not looking forward to that fateful day when Gentoo decides to adopt QT5, building QT4 on Gentoo is annoying enough... :) | 14:27 | |
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Mirv | bostik: I've noticed.. for some reason, the -lz around here should be after -lQt5Bootstrap, but LIBS += inserts it before it and somehow on this toolchain that doesn't work | 14:27 |
Stskeeps | ld_as_needed? | 14:28 |
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Mirv | seems to be the same with and without | 14:29 |
Mirv | correction, --no-as-needed works, apparently --as-needed is default | 14:31 |
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Mirv | yay | 14:34 |
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alterego | Stskeeps: btw, when I was trying to get qt5 on rpi last night, could't find eglfs-rpi package. | 15:11 |
alterego | I was following this: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi | 15:11 |
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* lbt doesn't know how sb2 zypper ever really worked... | 15:29 | |
CosmoHill | hi | 15:29 |
lbt | o/ | 15:30 |
sledges | hi CosmoHill | 15:30 |
kulve | lbt: not sure what you mean "really", but those instructions has been tested every now and then and they have worked nicely | 15:32 |
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lbt | kulve: the sdk-install rules have a hardcode that makes it run the host zypper binary | 15:33 |
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lbt | which now (at least) starts reading /etc/ld.so.* from the target (ARM) fs | 15:35 |
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sledges | "if you can't explain it to a XX y.o. child, you don't understand it well enough" :) | 15:36 |
sledges | ^ does not say whether that child should understand it as well after it | 15:36 |
vgrade_ | alterego: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=CE%3AAdaptation%3ARaspberryPi , qtplatformplugin-rpi package | 15:38 |
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vgrade_ | alterego: also qtwayland for rpi at https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qtwayland-rpi&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Aqtwayland-rpi | 15:39 |
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alterego | vgrade_: awesome, thanks :) I've somehow managed to procure 3 pis ;) | 16:11 |
vgrade_ | alterego: np, we should get the qtwayland-rpi into the HA project | 16:15 |
alterego | Do you get the strange black border issue aswell? | 16:16 |
alterego | Think it's overscan or something? | 16:16 |
vgrade_ | alterego: not had any issues on that | 16:17 |
alterego | Hmm, | 16:17 |
alterego | What res do you run your pi at? | 16:17 |
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CosmoHill | vgrade, alterego http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/pastebin/index.php?hx | 16:18 |
alterego | CosmoHill: does that fix it? ;) | 16:20 |
alterego | I'm running at 1080p | 16:20 |
CosmoHill | no idea, just heard you talking about pis | 16:20 |
alterego | But it doesn't fill the monitor :) | 16:20 |
CosmoHill | i saw some settings about overscan | 16:20 |
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alterego | Yeah, I've seen mention of it before, which is why I'm curious to see if anyone else has the issue. :) | 16:20 |
CosmoHill | http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4824 | 16:20 |
alterego | It happens on my HDTV and my HDMI monitor :) | 16:20 |
CosmoHill | I run 1680x1050 find on my pi | 16:21 |
alterego | God knows how many pixels I need to set that too :D | 16:22 |
alterego | I'm gonna experiment with the Risc OS image, as that boots quickly and has a nice light background ;) | 16:22 |
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alterego | Cool, got it, -50 all around :) | 16:53 |
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alterego | vgrade: do you know much about the boot process? | 16:58 |
alterego | I'd really like a soft reset .. | 16:59 |
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yunta | kexec? | 17:04 |
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lbt | Stskeeps: ping - zypper, sb2, SDK and OBS | 17:14 |
alterego | yunta: I didn't even mean soft reset :/ I actually meant hard reset :D | 17:19 |
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Stskeeps | lbt_: i'm moving over the next 48 hours so i'm a bit not around | 17:44 |
Stskeeps | lbt_: i'll have internet in the noon or so tomorrow | 17:44 |
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yunta | lbt_: I've got new webapp in my obs repo. One thing I'm missing though is what handles _src ? is that obs or is there something more I'm missing? | 18:19 |
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kulve | Sage: if I want to create a new HA, should I use build.merproject.org? | 18:20 |
yunta | or the new one? | 18:21 |
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yunta | uh, b.m.o *is* the new one :) | 18:23 |
kulve | yeah, thought so :) | 18:24 |
kulve | why most of the projects start with nemo:? I don't see why hw adaptations should be nemo-specific.. | 18:25 |
Stskeeps | in practice they're not anyway, it's just that nemo hosts the hw adaptations | 18:26 |
Stskeeps | just like nemo hosts x86 etc | 18:26 |
kulve | how can a GUI host hw adaptations? It's like having armv8el for armv7 builds.. | 18:27 |
Stskeeps | yeah, becuase nemo wasn't only about the ui ;) | 18:28 |
Stskeeps | also about the many devices | 18:28 |
Stskeeps | i didn't want them in mer, so the only place that there was ability to have them was nemo | 18:28 |
Stskeeps | but you can have them external | 18:28 |
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kulve | why are they in e.g. CE:HA:xxxx | 18:29 |
kulve | aren't | 18:29 |
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Stskeeps | CE = nemo :) | 18:29 |
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kulve | you sure are mixing the naming.. | 18:30 |
Stskeeps | yes | 18:30 |
Stskeeps | it's a historical thing really - nemo was meego community edition before we re-based on mer instead | 18:31 |
Stskeeps | and we didn't want to tie to a certain base | 18:31 |
Stskeeps | we decided it didnt make sense to rename projects | 18:31 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:31 |
Stskeeps | but now that we're moving, we might as well | 18:31 |
yunta | would be cool | 18:31 |
Stskeeps | just think of nemo:hw:* as a place that hosts hw adaptations that builds against mer core | 18:31 |
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Stskeeps | doesn't have to be there but it's where there's people taking care of them :P | 18:33 |
kulve | I can think it like that but it still doesn't make sense. nemo:hw:* for PA.. | 18:33 |
yunta | which is historically explainable, but doesn't fit the story that nemo is os layer on *top* of mer | 18:33 |
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Stskeeps | sure | 18:33 |
Stskeeps | well, not too late to change it | 18:34 |
Stskeeps | to hw:* | 18:34 |
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Stskeeps | this is sage's area though | 18:34 |
Stskeeps | kulve: PA actually builds against nemo repos too though | 18:34 |
Stskeeps | shares a lot of middleware/handy packages | 18:34 |
Stskeeps | :P | 18:34 |
kulve | that's good.. | 18:34 |
kulve | I'm find with nemo:stable:hw:xxxx | 18:35 |
kulve | äh, s/find/fine | 18:35 |
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shmerl | btw, how usable is kmail touch with Nemo? | 18:36 |
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kulve | Stskeeps: "Add Repository" should really have those default Mer repos in the main page without needing to "pick one via advanced interface" | 18:39 |
Stskeeps | yes, it's a bug in obs web ui and the way we do mer that makes it problematic | 18:39 |
Stskeeps | i'll note it though | 18:39 |
Stskeeps | bbl | 18:39 |
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yunta | kulve: I've been told by obs God, that no sane person uses web ui for that. | 18:41 |
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kulve | I'm often told to use something else than the webui but for me it just feels quicker to use :) | 18:43 |
kulve | (because I'm not that familiar with the command line options) | 18:43 |
kulve | and the webui works decently for many things | 18:44 |
yunta | then use meta tab and edit xml directly | 18:45 |
yunta | that's what I do | 18:45 |
yunta | I also like web ui concept.... | 18:46 |
kulve | well, I counted that as a part of using the webui (even if I don't need to edit those too often..) | 18:46 |
yunta | can I generate multiple binary pkgs from one source with spectacle ? | 18:48 |
yunta | if yes: any example? | 18:48 |
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kulve | don't most packages do that? E.g. libfoo and libfoo-devel? | 18:48 |
kulve | or did I understood the question wrong.. | 18:49 |
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yunta | maybe they do, I'll take a look | 18:50 |
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lbt_ | Stskeeps: np - I'm going to remove acceleration for rpm/zypper from the SDK's sb2 lua rules | 18:55 |
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lbt_ | yunta: _service says *where* to get a git-pkg flavoured git repo and what tag to use. Then, with a checkout of that tag, _src is a file says how to make the rpm | 18:58 |
lbt_ | kulve: I personally think that we should lose the nemo: prefix for both HA and middleware | 18:59 |
kulve | lbt_: good to hear that I'm not alone :) | 18:59 |
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lbt_ | it gives the nemo project the appearance of ownership and that, IMHO, is wrong | 19:00 |
kulve | yeah | 19:00 |
kulve | that too | 19:00 |
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kulve | lbt_: what would be a better prefix instead of nemo? CE (if they are more community driven than something else)? | 19:13 |
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kulve | Or maybe just stable/devel/testing? | 19:18 |
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lbt_ | kulve: good question :) | 19:26 |
lbt_ | shmerl: ping | 19:26 |
shmerl | Hi lbt_ | 19:27 |
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shmerl | Looking through the discussion... | 19:28 |
shmerl | Are you trying to come up with repo names prefix for hardware adaptations? | 19:29 |
kulve | I think so | 19:30 |
shmerl | What Stskeeps proposed sounds a rather straightforward solution: hw:... | 19:31 |
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kulve | would it be stable:hw:... and devel:hw:... | 19:32 |
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shmerl | How is it going to be for other parts? Will the rest of Mer repos also get such subdivisions? | 19:32 |
kulve | in cobs the "devel" part is at the end and therefore this "devel" prefix in b.m.o looks odd (different) to me | 19:34 |
shmerl | Well, it's just the way to slice them. I'd say it's easier to see testing: stable: as the first level division. | 19:35 |
shmerl | and hw: and the rest as the more inner one. | 19:35 |
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lbt_ | shmerl: about bug 655 | 19:36 |
Merbot | Mer bug 655 in SDK "zypper refresh through sb2 fails with segfault for Nemo target" [Major,New] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655 | 19:36 |
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shmerl | Yep | 19:36 |
lbt | could you try a new set of sb2 rules for me | 19:36 |
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shmerl | Sure. I'm not at that machine atm though. I'll be able to do it later. | 19:38 |
lbt | OK - from: https://github.com/lbt/sdk-setup/tree/master/modes/sdk-install | 19:38 |
shmerl | Just to replace the old ones with these for a test? | 19:38 |
lbt | yes, copy fs_rules.lua to /usr/share/scratchbox2/modes/sdk-install/ in the SDK | 19:39 |
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shmerl | OK, I can test that and add a comment to the bug. | 19:39 |
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rcg | evening all :) | 21:09 |
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yunta | lbt: that git/rpm/obs system is not very convenient for rapid fix/check cycles | 21:33 |
lbt | no, it's not | 21:33 |
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yunta | lbt: can I use HEAD instead of tag, and then just force-rebuild all things ? | 21:36 |
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yunta | not that I need it now, but in general | 21:39 |
lbt | I think that would be a good option | 21:40 |
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lbt | one issue is that the git-pkg branch may need incremental commits | 21:42 |
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yunta | lbt: I have sdk-webapp repackaged (to allow vendor customization) in my home repo. Should I sr > Mer:Tools or wait for you to setup other repo? | 22:25 |
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lbt | do it via github | 22:26 |
lbt | hmm | 22:26 |
lbt | what did I tell you last time? | 22:26 |
yunta | can't remember :D | 22:26 |
lbt | I wonder what makes more sense | 22:27 |
lbt | SR on OBS or MR via github which mentions an OBS project? | 22:27 |
yunta | so Mer:Tools is attached to your home repo on github? | 22:27 |
lbt | no, I'm just bad and the _service file has my github home as the git src | 22:28 |
yunta | so, we should just create new *proper* github repo | 22:28 |
lbt | yes | 22:28 |
yunta | and make proper _service | 22:28 |
yunta | it's in the scope of your bug I believe | 22:29 |
yunta | should I do it? | 22:29 |
lbt | https://github.com/mer-tools exists now | 22:29 |
yunta | nice | 22:30 |
yunta | is that user or some group? | 22:30 |
lbt | group/org thing | 22:30 |
lbt | yeah, we'll use that for the SDK stuff and Mer:Tools | 22:31 |
yunta | lbt's member.... no, wait.. lbt's A member | 22:31 |
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lbt | yes, Carsten + Islam too just as backup | 22:31 |
yunta | can't see them | 22:31 |
lbt | but not public so they're not hassled about it | 22:31 |
yunta | ok | 22:32 |
yunta | can you create sdk-webapp repo so I have someplace to send my pull request to ? | 22:32 |
yunta | not necessarily now | 22:33 |
yunta | but this week :) | 22:33 |
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lbt | done | 22:34 |
yunta | thanks | 22:35 |
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yunta | I wonder what happens with tags when I do pr... does it push --tags | 22:36 |
lbt | good question | 22:36 |
lbt | in general tagging should be done by the maintainer | 22:40 |
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lbt | so no, pr should not pull tags | 22:40 |
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yunta | ok, added requested tag names to pull requests, as comments | 22:43 |
yunta | and I'm off to sleep | 22:44 |
yunta | no hurry with this one | 22:44 |
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yunta | and as always thanks for help :) | 22:45 |
lbt | np | 22:46 |
yunta | gn | 22:48 |
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lpotter | hmmm | 23:01 |
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