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| zhxt | morning :) | 01:37 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning all | 06:26 |
| Eliel | is it normal for the web-control panel for MerSDK to take up to a minute to respond? I installed a virtualbox version following these instructions https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 06:26 |
| Stskeeps | does ssh -p 2222 root@localhost work ? | 06:28 |
| Eliel | yep | 06:28 |
| Eliel | it does | 06:28 |
| Eliel | although that is somewhat slow also | 06:28 |
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| Eliel | the control panel gave me "NoMethodError at /target/" just now after waiting 1-2 minutes. | 06:28 |
| Eliel | the VM has 512MB of RAM too, so that shouldn't be the problem either. | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | and going to http://localhost:8080/ takes ages? | 06:31 |
| Eliel | yes | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | i think those who might be able to help you aren't really awake yet, i can't answer what the problem might be atm | 06:31 |
| Eliel | I'll be banging my head at this for the rest of today so, I'll be around :) | 06:32 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:32 |
| Eliel | I guess I'd best shift my focus to getting a 4GB microSD for my n900 for now :) | 06:33 |
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| Eliel | anyone well versed with MerSDK awake yet? I'm having a problem with very sluggish response speed of the control panel as well as an outright error trying to open the target link. I've installed MerSDK following these instructions https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 08:51 |
| Eliel | it gives this error: NoMethodError at /target/ | 08:51 |
| Eliel | undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass | 08:51 |
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| Eliel | ok, I solved the sluggish response speed. The error remains though. | 09:03 |
| Eliel | ... not sure exactly why it was a problem but it seems having /srv/mer/targets be owned by user.root didn't work but it works now that I chowned it to user.user | 09:11 |
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| Bostik | that sounds like that access-value for the directory is not checked and you get empty object | 09:19 |
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| CosmoHill | woof | 09:30 |
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| Eliel | whoa, I didn't quite expect installing nemo_n9_min target would almost freeze my system. I ended up killing virtualbox to get the system working again. | 09:34 |
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| Eliel | for some reason it was using so much IO that everything took up to a minute to happen | 09:35 |
| CosmoHill | where you copying something to an SD card? | 09:35 |
| Eliel | no, everything was happening on an SSD hard drive. | 09:36 |
| Eliel | connected with SATA | 09:36 |
| Eliel | looks like it was mostly reading. read count on the SSD increased by around 200 gigabytes during that. | 09:37 |
| CosmoHill | that's a lot | 09:39 |
| Eliel | my system was also compiling qtcreator at the same time... maybe it's related somehow | 09:39 |
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| Eliel | oh... maybe the IO was swapping, there's quite a bit of swap in use suddenly. | 09:51 |
| Eliel | only 3GB of RAM in this system. | 09:52 |
| Eliel | these tools seem to eat a lot of memory | 09:52 |
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| Eliel | I guess Qt creator is unable to use ssh-agent to gain access to unencrypted ssh private key? | 10:24 |
| * CosmoHill shurgs | 10:24 | |
| CosmoHill | that is a question for someoen else | 10:24 |
| CosmoHill | cyas | 10:25 |
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| rcg | jfyi seems like i finally succeeded in creating an initrd for nexus 7 for extracting rootfs tarballs :) | 10:56 |
| rcg | this all based on the n9 moslo :) | 10:56 |
| dm8tbr | :) | 10:57 |
| rcg | this eased things a lot as i have no real clue about the details of creating initrds ;) | 10:57 |
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| rcg | yay, even plasma active is booting | 10:59 |
| rcg | there are quite some failed services, but well, it's start | 10:59 |
| rcg | and i apparently forgot to put the wlan firmware on the rootfs :D | 11:01 |
| rcg | and the kexec call to boot from the initrd into the real rootfs seems to be broken right now | 11:01 |
| rcg | but at least one can circumvent the silly fastboot flash size limitation that way :) | 11:02 |
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| Eliel | hmm... I'm trying to run a helloworld application and the compile process terminates with an error. | 11:09 |
| Eliel | 3:05:27: Starting: "/home/jojkaart/.config/QtProject/mer-dev-tools/nemo_n9_min/mb" build -t nemo_n9_min rpm/HelloWorld.spec | 11:09 |
| Eliel | bash: mb: command not found | 11:09 |
| Eliel | 13:05:27: The process "/home/jojkaart/.config/QtProject/mer-dev-tools/nemo_n9_min/mb" exited with code 127. | 11:09 |
| Eliel | any ideas? | 11:09 |
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| rcg | btw dm8tbr i also tried to get g_multi running but that didn't succeed | 11:13 |
| rcg | compiling it statically in kernel works, building as module results in some linking problem | 11:13 |
| rcg | aside from this i don't even know if g_multi or the other storage fs stuff is supported at all by tegra 3 or nexus7 respectively | 11:14 |
| rcg | btw what is the preferred way to execute a simple shell script on startup? | 11:16 |
| rcg | preferrable without the need for messing with systemd and its services | 11:17 |
| Bostik | wheeeeeee! library renames in Qt5 beta2->rc1 | 11:17 |
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| Eliel | ok, using the desktop target creates a working hello world. Nemo_n9_min target does not even compile. | 11:21 |
| dm8tbr | rcg: no idea what they use for host mode, but I'd expect gadget drivers to work | 11:22 |
| Eliel | oh wait, it compiles but doesn't run. | 11:22 |
| Eliel | I suppose I do need the nemo-VM if I can figure out what it is and where to get it | 11:23 |
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| Eliel | ... oh wait, I have it already. | 11:24 |
| rcg | dm8tbr, i see... well, i think i'll look into that later again | 11:24 |
| rcg | dm8tbr, may i bother you if i got more questions wrt to this? | 11:24 |
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| rcg | well, bbl... got continue our new flat for moving in | 11:27 |
| rcg | *continue preparing | 11:27 |
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| dm8tbr | rcg: sure, please take intoaccount that I'm not always at the kbd | 11:35 |
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| Eliel | how do you close an application in nemo-VM? | 12:31 |
| dm8tbr | IIRC from the app list | 12:33 |
| Eliel | how do you get from an open app to that? | 12:33 |
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| Eliel | I'd have guessed a swipe of some kind does that but mouse doesn't seem to be able to do them. | 12:34 |
| phaeron | push the apps from the far right or left edge | 12:36 |
| kulve | rcg: I tried briefly getting some gadget fs working but pretty much all non-default kernel configs failed to build | 12:44 |
| kulve | rcg: if that would work, there could be initrd image that could e.g. check if some button is pressed and in that case load the gadget fs kernel module and allow the PC side to flash the whole eMMC partition | 12:45 |
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| Eliel | phaeron: ah, thank you, that worked | 12:53 |
| phaeron | Eliel: cool :) | 12:54 |
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| Eliel | ah, great, it's got a python interpreter too. I hope I can count on this existing on Sailfish too. | 12:54 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: so you had an idea about netrc in zypper? | 13:38 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: sure it isn't there already through libcurl usage? | 13:40 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: well I found it already tries to parse ~/.curlrc but only supports one option | 13:40 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: netrc usage is off by default | 13:40 |
| phaeron | in libcurl | 13:40 |
| phaeron | and you need turn it on either in curlrc or on the libcurl object directly | 13:41 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: https://github.com/openSUSE/libzypp/blob/master/zypp/media/CurlConfig.cc#L173 | 13:42 |
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| phaeron | aim is to make mic usable without passwords in kickstart | 13:42 |
| phaeron | already have a patch for urlgrabber to do the same (which mic uses earlier) | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | it seems strange it doesn't have it already | 13:44 |
| phaeron | well state of things | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | wth is aria2 | 13:44 |
| phaeron | usually zypper gets credentials from other files | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | (reading stuff from 2009) | 13:44 |
| phaeron | aria2 is a muticonnection download manager | 13:44 |
| phaeron | used to use it | 13:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:45 |
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| Stskeeps | i don't think it's a bad idea, at least | 13:45 |
| iekku | &Win 20 | 13:46 |
| iekku | aarhg | 13:47 |
| iekku | my keyboard changed language... | 13:47 |
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| * dm8tbr hands iekku a fresh pack of /'s | 13:47 | |
| iekku | :D | 13:47 |
| iekku | i hope it works now... :/ | 13:48 |
| iekku | stupid windows | 13:48 |
| iekku | stupid me | 13:48 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, ping | 16:05 |
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| Stskeeps | ponh | 16:06 |
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| Stskeeps | faenil: pong | 16:12 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, hey :) was wondering, have you already heard/worked on mer for Nexus4? | 16:13 |
| faenil | there's another portathon by RIM (you know, 100$ per ported app) and I was thinking about buying a Nexus4 with those money to use it as a dev device for Mer/Nemo/whatever | 16:13 |
| dm8tbr | port-a-potty ;) | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | n4 is what SoC? | 16:15 |
| * dm8tbr puts bets on QC | 16:15 | |
| dm8tbr | APQ8064 Snapdragon | 16:16 |
| faenil | Snapdragon S4 Pro | 16:16 |
| faenil | it would be a rather nice and cheap dev machine :D | 16:17 |
| faenil | (with Google's price) | 16:17 |
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| Stskeeps | not really useful before zephyr | 16:27 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, which means before june, or later? | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | that i don't know | 16:30 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, alright, it's enough to make me not buy it ^^ | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | n7 looks like a nice target | 16:32 |
| faenil | i.e. it works already there? | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | nvidia has quite nice normal linux adaptation | 16:38 |
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| faenil | I see... ok ;) | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | so not a bad choice. i've considerd to get one | 16:42 |
| faenil | if only playbook was hackable...I'm about to get three of them xD | 16:43 |
| leinir | ...wow :) | 16:43 |
| faenil | leinir, right? XD | 16:43 |
| leinir | *giggles* Yeah... i only have the one, and until bb10's out for it, that's kind of enough ;) | 16:44 |
| faenil | leinir, yeah...I don't use it much, waiting for BB10 :) | 16:44 |
| leinir | Oh i use mine a lot - twitter and ebooks... granted, the twitter client i'm using is Plume, so having to run that through the apk converter first ;) | 16:45 |
| faenil | :) | 16:45 |
| leinir | (ffs levelupstudio, get your shit together and publish the thing, it works perfectly) | 16:46 |
| faenil | lol | 16:46 |
| leinir | i want to give them money so i don't have to look at those adverts any longer, but they won't let me :P | 16:46 |
| faenil | ahaaah | 16:48 |
| situ | Hi all | 16:54 |
| * situ had convocation for his M.Sc. today | 16:56 | |
| Stskeeps | convocation? | 16:57 |
| situ | Stskeeps: I was awarded deegree for my M.Sc. | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | ah, congratulations :) | 16:59 |
| virtuald | *ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ | 17:00 |
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| situ | I think you guys call it commencement | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | i didn't go to mine and they lost my diploma 3 times in the mail | 17:00 |
| virtuald | **Ä_____________________________:::::::::ØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØØ | 17:00 |
| situ | I was afraid of loosing my deegree in mail, that's why I attended it :) | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | virtuald: cat or child? | 17:02 |
| virtuald | cat | 17:02 |
| kerio | :3 | 17:04 |
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| rcg | dm8tbr, great.. and so am i ;) | 17:48 |
| rcg | kulve, i assume you read what i wrote about my progress with the initrd? | 17:49 |
| rcg | kulve, did you eventually succeed in building a kernel with a gadget module? | 17:50 |
| kulve | no | 17:50 |
| rcg | i see | 17:50 |
| rcg | that was what i wasted my time with yesterday night | 17:50 |
| kulve | I tried only quickly and then used the make_ext4fs | 17:50 |
| rcg | essentially, i stumbled from one linker error to the next | 17:50 |
| rcg | i see | 17:51 |
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| rcg | well, so far i managed to get an initrd ready that looks for rootfs.tar.gz or rootfs.tar.bz2 on userdate and if it finds it extracts it to userdata | 17:51 |
| rcg | with that it is at least possible to "flash" a full plasma active | 17:52 |
| rcg | the further plan is that this initrd uses kexec to boot the real kernel that's supposed to be in userdata/boot then | 17:53 |
| rcg | but for some reason kexec refuses to work right now | 17:53 |
| rcg | it says it is starting the new kernel but for some reason hangs at that stage | 17:53 |
| kulve | why do you need to have a separate kernel? | 17:54 |
| rcg | actually it is the same kernel | 17:55 |
| rcg | the point is that the kernel from the android boot partition boots into the initrd | 17:56 |
| kulve | initrd should do it's trick and then continue normally? Or do the trick only when a certain button is pressed? | 17:56 |
| rcg | actually, the initrd i use is based on the n9 moslo | 17:57 |
| rcg | so we have a couple of options | 17:57 |
| rcg | what it does right now is to check for a rootfs tarball and if it finds it the tarball gets extracted and after extraction is deleted and the normal boot process continues | 17:58 |
| rcg | so in this logic the extraction would only happen once and else it would directly continue booting | 17:59 |
| rcg | another option, that is also already implemented, is that it checks whether usb is connected, if yes it should export the userdata partition via some usb gadget stuff | 18:00 |
| kulve | just a side note: fastboot seems to support flashing arbitrary sized images in pieces, but looks like n7 fastboot doesn't support that.. It would be the "correct" solution for this | 18:00 |
| rcg | the check for usb is already implemented in n9 moslo and only needed a minor tweek to check at the right path in sysfs | 18:00 |
| rcg | the point i am currently fighting with is to get that usb gadget stuff working | 18:01 |
| rcg | and, last but not least, n9 moslo also supports interaction via hw-buttons... so that would also be an option | 18:01 |
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| rcg | my preferred way would be to export userdata via usb gadget such that it can be mounted like any ordinary usb stick | 18:02 |
| kulve | yeah, I think that would be the most convenient way | 18:02 |
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| rcg | this would vastly improve debugging and hacking | 18:02 |
| rcg | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=moslo&project=home%3Awonko%3AProject%3AKDE%3AMer_Extras%3AAdaptation%3Agoogle-nexus7 | 18:03 |
| rcg | that's the moslo i am currently hacking on | 18:03 |
| rcg | right now i just use a very brute-force approach but i plan to clone the moslo on gitorious and push the nexus 7 changes | 18:04 |
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| rcg | yay, i think i just got g_mulit to work with nexus 7 :D | 20:00 |
| rcg | *g_multi | 20:00 |
| rcg | at least mounting the userdata partition seems to work :D | 20:01 |
| rcg | sweet, network connection via usb0 works as well :D | 20:02 |
| rcg | just telneted into my nexus 7 :D | 20:02 |
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| * lpotter gonna make a stand-up desk | 21:48 | |
| Stskeeps | ah, that's a good point | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | should get that for my new office in new apartment | 21:53 |
| CosmoHill | oooo | 21:56 |
| CosmoHill | new stuff, it's like xmas come early for your Stskeeps | 21:56 |
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| niqt | hi | 22:21 |
| niqt | when add the targert in qtcreator-mer i have "failied to add Qt version" | 22:22 |
| rcg | hey niqt | 22:22 |
| niqt | hi rcg, not go have fun on a Saturday night? | 22:23 |
| rcg | well, i actually do have fun.. just not going out ;) | 22:30 |
| rcg | just managed to access the userdata partition of a nexus 7 via moslo | 22:31 |
| rcg | and playing a little bit resident evil | 22:31 |
| rcg | submitted a paper yesterday so i now got at least a very little time to relax :) | 22:31 |
| niqt | good | 22:35 |
| rcg | what about you? | 22:36 |
| rcg | how's ist going? | 22:36 |
| niqt | i'm installing mer-sdk with virtual-box https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox, but i have one problem | 22:37 |
| rcg | i see | 22:37 |
| rcg | a colleague also tried the mer sdk and he reported also to have a problem.. but i don't recall the exact issue anymore | 22:37 |
| niqt | i think that with new sdk the develop is more fast | 22:38 |
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| rcg | sounds great | 22:43 |
| rcg | :) | 22:43 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: review please http://review.merproject.org/1031 | 23:46 |
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