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| situ | Morning all | 05:12 |
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| iekku | morning | 05:32 |
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| ljp | I think summer is finally here. 33c | 05:38 |
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| iekku | ljp, :o | 05:51 |
| iekku | -4 here, i think | 05:52 |
| cybette | down to -10 this weekend | 05:55 |
| cybette | and snow! | 05:55 |
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| iekku | cybette, when i went to hki yesterday there were snow in several cities already | 05:57 |
| iekku | cybette, was bit disappointed when returned home and no snow | 05:57 |
| iekku | cybette, hki is going to get crazy soon, they might get 40cm snow soon and metro isn't working during weekend... | 05:58 |
| cybette | iekku: yeah there was very light snow yesterday in Tampere too | 05:59 |
| cybette | but should have more this weekend | 05:59 |
| cybette | i need to get new boots. i wear out at least one pair a year here in Finland | 06:00 |
| ljp | my kids dearest dream is to see snow | 06:02 |
| ljp | werid that I used to be a ski bum.... | 06:02 |
| ljp | weird | 06:02 |
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| iekku | cybette, https://villakenka.fi/felt-boots-c-34.html ;) | 06:04 |
| iekku | ljp, so you know the future for your kids? | 06:05 |
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| ljp | not off hand. :) | 06:08 |
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| cybette | iekku: nice! I've never had felt boots before :) | 06:15 |
| iekku | cybette, one of my friends loves those :) | 06:15 |
| cybette | ljp: I dreamt of seeing snow all through my childhood (grew up in Singapore) | 06:18 |
| cybette | I got my wish, and then some | 06:18 |
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| ljp | ya, they'll probably grow up to be ski lift operator :) | 06:23 |
| timoph | cybette: careful what you wish for :p | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 06:24 |
| Bostik | *yaaawnnn* | 06:24 |
| Bostik | I woke up, and thus the day was ruined | 06:24 |
| ravirdv | morning! | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | urgh, i actually thought it was wednesday today :( | 06:26 |
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| iekku | is it thu? | 06:27 |
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| cybette | timoph: yeah, I have to word the wishes more carefully now. "I want snow, but not too much, just 2 months a year is enough. Fluffy kind, not wet." etc. Give clear req specss. | 06:36 |
| cybette | iekku: I can't believe it's already thursday either | 06:37 |
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| Bostik | cybette: optimum length for winter is roughly 2 months, not the 200 days we have here :/ | 06:58 |
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| cybette | Bostik: indeed :P | 07:00 |
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| Bostik | cybette: a few years ago wife was in Brazil, attending a wood-and-pulp conference; the locals had heard a lot about Finnish paper and pulp, and asked how well our eucalyptus trees grow | 07:07 |
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| Bostik | eucalyptus tolerates 1-2 nights of sub-zero temperatures a year, so telling them that we have ~200 of them per year was a real shock :p | 07:08 |
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| chriadam | not many drop bears in your part of the world either, I expect? they tend to like warmer temperatures. | 07:11 |
| Bostik | not many, yes; bear drop(ping)s are more common | 07:11 |
| chriadam | even mike tyson fears the drop bear: http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/11/15/1226517/621072-mike-tyson-and-koala.jpg | 07:12 |
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| niqt | morning | 08:12 |
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| sledges | good moo-rning | 09:17 |
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| Voodoouser | Hello | 09:19 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Voodoouser | 09:19 |
| Voodoouser | I need to have some information | 09:19 |
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| Voodoouser | I want to install Jolla Sailfish UI on my N950 device. | 09:20 |
| Voodoouser | is it possible? | 09:20 |
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| Stskeeps | not possible atm | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | #jollamobile is more for you | 09:23 |
| faenil | Voodoouser, eheheh, there's the line ;) | 09:24 |
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| Voodoouser | ok here is for MER | 09:25 |
| Voodoouser | with NEMO ? | 09:25 |
| Voodoouser | the only system created by MER | 09:25 |
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| Stskeeps | Nemo isn't created by mer, it's a seperate project :) | 09:25 |
| Voodoouser | Ok | 09:25 |
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| Voodoouser | what is your phone ? OS installed plz? | 09:26 |
| Voodoouser | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c_BqnR_vAM | 09:27 |
| Voodoouser | if you look this video you can see the N950 with Jolla system. | 09:27 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, but it is just used as a developer device | 09:28 |
| Stskeeps | it's not a final product | 09:28 |
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| Voodoouser | ok where can i have this system? | 09:29 |
| faenil | Voodoouser, you can't. | 09:29 |
| faenil | we're all waiting for Jolla to release something, so we just have to wait ;) | 09:29 |
| Voodoouser | Ok | 09:30 |
| faenil | You can flash Nemo on N950, which is not by Jolla (it's by community) but it's still based on Mer | 09:30 |
| Voodoouser | what is better meego or NEMO ? | 09:30 |
| faenil | Nemo isn't ready for daily usage | 09:30 |
| faenil | but I don't know what meego image you're talking about | 09:30 |
| Voodoouser | I have the PR 1.3 on my N950 installed with Nitroid in dual boot | 09:30 |
| faenil | ok | 09:31 |
| faenil | there's nothing more stable than that out in the world at the moment | 09:31 |
| faenil | Nemo is a community project and it's WIP if you want to contribute that would be great | 09:31 |
| Voodoouser | Ok | 09:31 |
| faenil | otherwise, just stay tuned and hope Jolla releases N950 image or a way to build it ourselves | 09:31 |
| Voodoouser | nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1.tar.bz2 | 09:32 |
| Voodoouser | the last version of NEMO , | 09:32 |
| Voodoouser | ? | 09:32 |
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| faenil | could be, I don't remember atm... | 09:32 |
| faenil | but even if that's the latest there will be outdated packages | 09:32 |
| faenil | so once you've booted nemo | 09:32 |
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| faenil | also update the system | 09:32 |
| faenil | using the Updating guide on the wiki | 09:32 |
| Voodoouser | ok | 09:33 |
| Voodoouser | On NEMO is there any emulator? like snes etc | 09:33 |
| faenil | I don't remember if anyone ported an emulator | 09:33 |
| faenil | check if emumaster is compatible, if anyone ported it, or whatelse | 09:34 |
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| Voodoouser | Ok | 09:34 |
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| faenil | don't know if this works https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=emumaster&project=home%3Awonko%3ACE%3AApps | 09:35 |
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| Voodoouser | emumaster is ported on nemo too | 09:36 |
| faenil | good | 09:36 |
| Voodoouser | but emulator work better on NITROID | 09:36 |
| faenil | :/ | 09:37 |
| Voodoouser | Why | 09:37 |
| Voodoouser | strange | 09:37 |
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| Voodoouser | what is your device faenil? | 09:38 |
| faenil | Voodoouser, main device? developing device? | 09:38 |
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| Voodoouser | both | 09:39 |
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| Voodoouser | Who have the N9-00 dali ? prototype of N950. | 09:40 |
| faenil | don't know | 09:40 |
| faenil | I use Lumia800 (free as gift from Nokia) as main device, and N950/BB10 DevAlpha as development devices | 09:40 |
| dm8tbr | for me the gift L800 is unusable. Store is hardcoded to finnish in finland. no chance to have it in english. | 09:41 |
| faenil | dm8tbr, oops...that's strange, languages settings for the store should be editable | 09:42 |
| qrwteyrutiyoup | Voodoouser, is it that one (n950 prototype)? http://goo.gl/GLE5i | 09:42 |
| Voodoouser | doesnt work your picture | 09:43 |
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| qrwteyrutiyoup | ouch @ store hardcoded to finnish. | 09:46 |
| dm8tbr | faenil: hahaha. http://justpaste.it/Why_I_wont_use_WindowsPhone | 09:47 |
| qrwteyrutiyoup | LOL | 09:49 |
| sroedal | haha | 09:49 |
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| faenil | ahahah | 09:49 |
| faenil | that's ridicolous XD | 09:49 |
| qrwteyrutiyoup | to say the least lol | 09:50 |
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| iekku | dm8tbr, oh my :DDD can i share that? | 09:51 |
| dm8tbr | iekku: please do | 09:55 |
| iekku | thanks :) | 09:55 |
| dm8tbr | iekku: on a related note. ms is thus actively discriminating the swedish speaking minority in finland. | 09:55 |
| iekku | i noticed that too | 09:56 |
| dm8tbr | they fixed belgium meanwhile though | 09:56 |
| dm8tbr | http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/markets | 09:57 |
| dm8tbr | still, if you want to 'change' your location (and language) you have to throw away your previous account. And you can't change to a 'different country' because 'things will stop working' or something. | 09:58 |
| dm8tbr | oh and reformat your device ofc | 09:58 |
| faenil | -.- | 09:58 |
| dm8tbr | iekku: there is also a g+ post I did | 09:58 |
| iekku | dm8tbr, honey badger told that | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: prerelease when you have a moment | 09:59 |
| lbt | ok | 09:59 |
| lbt | on call | 09:59 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 10:27 |
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| sledges | moorning | 10:49 |
| CosmoHill | .o/ | 10:50 |
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| VDVsx | Stskeeps, what is ETA for next mer release ? | 11:26 |
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| Stskeeps | doing a prerelease today | 11:27 |
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| Stskeeps | i'll merge your qmf stuff as part of second prerelease | 11:28 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, please remember my qmf patch, don't want kontio to be angry at me :D | 11:28 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, thx, have already another patch in the pipeline | 11:29 |
| RaYmAn | I'm curious, how is mer/nemo/similar ui-wise with laptop-like devices? e.g. no touchscreen, but keyboard/trackpad | 11:29 |
| * kontio barks for a warn @ VDVsx and Stskeeps :-) | 11:29 | |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: maui-project.org may be interesting | 11:30 |
| RaYmAn | I was thinking of giving it a go on my new fancy arm chromebook =P | 11:30 |
| RaYmAn | I couldn't pass up the opportunity for Cortex A15 at a relatively cheap price =P | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:31 |
| VDVsx | "One of the problems with the existing Linux-based solutions is that they are fast moving targets. For us a stable API and ABI is indispensable..." | 11:32 |
| jukkaeklund | RaYmAn which one? | 11:32 |
| VDVsx | are the based on debian stable then ? :P | 11:32 |
| VDVsx | they | 11:32 |
| RaYmAn | jukkaeklund: Samsung XE303, Exynos5 dual-core with Mali T604 & 2gb ram | 11:33 |
| jukkaeklund | nice, do you like it? | 11:33 |
| RaYmAn | yeah, it's pretty cool | 11:33 |
| RaYmAn | and extremely hackable | 11:33 |
| mikhas | VDVsx, still working on QMF? | 11:33 |
| mikhas | now you have to write code yourself again, hah! | 11:33 |
| RaYmAn | they even publish the EC sourcecode :d | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | EC? | 11:34 |
| RaYmAn | Embedded Controller | 11:34 |
| jukkaeklund | thanks | 11:34 |
| RaYmAn | handles uhm, charging, keyboard input, special key combos and various other stuff | 11:34 |
| VDVsx | mikhas, nah, I've a army of minions that do that for me, as always :) | 11:34 |
| mikhas | lies! | 11:35 |
| RaYmAn | small Cortex M3 32-bit ARM Cpu in this case | 11:35 |
| mikhas | your minions are called fingers, and you have ten of them | 11:35 |
| RaYmAn | it comes with the ability to boot off SDcard or USB | 11:35 |
| RaYmAn | which is really nice for dev work | 11:35 |
| VDVsx | mikhas, ;) btw great weather in .fi atm you should came and visit us ;) | 11:36 |
| RaYmAn | display quality isn't that great, but it's ok for the price | 11:36 |
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| VDVsx | RaYmAn, what's the problem with display ? small ? normally samsung has good quality screens | 11:37 |
| mikhas | yeah I should … kinda miss lbt's pizza place | 11:37 |
| RaYmAn | VDVsx: viewing angles, colors and such. | 11:37 |
| RaYmAn | Compared to my ASUS Transformer Prime, it pales a bit | 11:37 |
| RaYmAn | it's certainly good enough for daily usage though | 11:37 |
| jukkaeklund | RaYmAn tempted, abt 250e in UK and amazon ships to Finland too :) | 11:38 |
| RaYmAn | yup, I ordered from amazon.co.uk and I'm in Denmark | 11:38 |
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| jukkaeklund | there will be a Nexus one too soon I guess | 11:39 |
| RaYmAn | Nexus one what? | 11:39 |
| jukkaeklund | Nexus branded chromebook | 11:39 |
| RaYmAn | ah | 11:39 |
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| RaYmAn | I wouldn't expect that tbh - they seem to keep chrome a bit seperate from android =P | 11:39 |
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| jukkaeklund | true | 11:40 |
| RaYmAn | The biggest issue for me is that I really don't have any real usage for a 11.6" netbook :P | 11:40 |
| RaYmAn | But hey, at 250$ it's a fun toy :P | 11:40 |
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| RaYmAn | maui does look interesting | 11:48 |
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| kontio | Stskeeps: is it possible to clone bugs from Nemo BZ to Mer BZ? since with http://review.merproject.org/#change,1015 I guess Mer "inherited" Nemo#515... | 13:22 |
| kontio | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=515 | 13:22 |
| Merbot` | Nemo bug 515 in .Other "8 libaccounts-qt unit tests fail" [Major,New] | 13:22 |
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| Sage | kontio: I don't think we have that available atm. | 13:39 |
| kontio | so wontfix in NEMO and make a new one in Mer? | 13:40 |
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| Sage | sure | 13:42 |
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| kontio | ok will do so... | 13:45 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: so ... datestamp for prerelease? | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | wednesday next week? | 14:03 |
| lbt | OK | 14:04 |
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| lbt | a snapshot? | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | prerelease i think | 14:05 |
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| alterego | Stskeeps: is http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/marquiz:/n950/CE_Adaptation_N950_Mer_Core-next-armv7hl/armv7hl/kernel-moslo-n9-2.6.32.20112201-26.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9.armv7hl.rpm the right package for moslo for N9? | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | didnt aard make a better one? | 14:10 |
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| alterego | I'll check, and update wiki if that's the case. | 14:11 |
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| Aard | Stskeeps: I didn't update the n9-moslo since I don't really like having two kernels building on cobs | 14:12 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: pre-release looks good | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:48 |
| lbt | Sage: phaeron: any issues pushing to cobs? | 19:48 |
| phaeron | no | 19:49 |
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