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| phaeron | lbt: of course, you wrote it :D | 00:03 |
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| lbt | :D | 00:06 |
| lbt | hmm | 00:08 |
| lbt | systemd cycle trying to run sshd.socket in emergency.target.wants :/ | 00:08 |
| lbt | still, it seems to run a nice journal now | 00:11 |
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| sonach | morning | 00:32 |
| lbt | hey sonach | 00:33 |
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| sonach | lbt: good evening. How are things going? | 00:35 |
| lbt | sonach: really rather well - you saw the Jolla and Sailfish launch? | 00:36 |
| sonach | sure. And maybe you will come here sometime in the future? | 00:36 |
| lbt | hoping so | 00:36 |
| lbt | there's a small chance in december | 00:36 |
| lbt | have you spoken to the Jolla people about Sailfish ? | 00:37 |
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| sonach | no at the moment, | 00:37 |
| lbt | since they have a solution for running android apps on Mer | 00:38 |
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| sonach | yes, | 00:39 |
| lbt | I'm going to talk at the Qt Developer Days next week too | 00:39 |
| sonach | Let's see what Jolla will bring to the market, | 00:41 |
| sonach | Yes, Qt Dev days, There will be many interesting info :) | 00:42 |
| lbt | and maybe Mer is something Qt will be looking at a lot more closely now | 00:45 |
| lbt | yay - my Nook is an RNDIS device and it runs my shell config stuff ... | 00:46 |
| sonach | :) | 00:47 |
| lbt | good enough for tonight ... bed now | 00:47 |
| sonach | good night! | 00:50 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:17 |
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| Bostik | morning | 05:28 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 05:37 |
| iekku | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | 05:41 |
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| situ | iekku: Are you at work ? | 05:50 |
| iekku | situ, hmm, hard question :D trying to work at bus while travelling to helsinki | 05:52 |
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| situ | Allright | 05:55 |
| iekku | and trying to be awake :P | 05:58 |
| situ | I can see that :P | 06:00 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:20 |
| ljp | morning | 06:21 |
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| ljp | I am so over this 'retina display' crap | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | it's just a marketing ploy in order to make people accept apple putting their devices straight onto the retina of people | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:29 |
| Figure | :D | 06:34 |
| ljp | new Apple Retina(tm) inplantable chip | 06:37 |
| chriadam | i'll take 2 | 06:38 |
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| ljp | I'm waiting for the 7.1 Surround Retina Chip | 06:43 |
| chriadam | Cochlea Chip, I'd imagine | 06:45 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:20 |
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| ljp | yum. food. | 07:44 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 07:44 |
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| Stskeeps | pq: is there any good reason why wayland-android-client-protocol.h refers to android_wlegl_handle_interface which only exists in server part? server_wlegl_handle.cpp that is | 09:04 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, mm, let me check | 09:21 |
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| Stskeeps | hey francois___, how is it going? | 09:21 |
| Stskeeps | pq, might simply be that i need to implement the client side, of course | 09:21 |
| francois___ | hello! well, thanks! | 09:21 |
| francois___ | wtill playing with Mer :-) | 09:22 |
| francois___ | I have a somewhat working sh4 project | 09:22 |
| francois___ | but haven't had time to test it that much | 09:22 |
| francois___ | had to switch to a mips platform | 09:23 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:23 |
| francois___ | but of course that was a chance to test the Core:mipsel distribution :) | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | no idea how it works, but it seemed to work on qemu | 09:24 |
| francois___ | well almost fine :) | 09:24 |
| francois___ | I had to patch libsolv | 09:25 |
| francois___ | for zypper to work | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | ah, what kind of issue did it have? | 09:25 |
| francois___ | zypper would not install mips packages otherwise | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to submit patch :) | 09:27 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, android_wlegl_handle_interface is defined in the generated protocol .c file, that is needed both server and client side | 09:28 |
| francois___ | there are few things I wanted to report :) | 09:29 |
| francois___ | I'll have to go through the wiki to see how to submit patches | 09:29 |
| pq | Stskeeps, that is the variable called android_wlegl_handle_interface. OTOH, struct android_wlegl_handle_interface type is server-side only. | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | pq: ah feck, you're right | 09:29 |
| francois___ | these are tiny contributions though ^^ | 09:29 |
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| Stskeeps | pq: i didn't see the _impl part :) | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | francois___: mer's made up of tiny contributions :) | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | pq: thank you | 09:30 |
| pq | Stskeeps, yeah, it's kind of... subtle :-/ | 09:30 |
| pq | but inventing intuitive names is hard | 09:30 |
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| francois___ | oh I had to patch mic too to build a mips filesystem | 09:46 |
| francois___ | to copy qemu-mips | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that'd be a welcome patch | 09:47 |
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| CosmoHill | hey slaine | 09:58 |
| slaine | Hey CosmoHill | 09:59 |
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| francois___ | I can't debug mips programs on the target. I get the following message when gdb reads the symbols: Dwarf Error: wrong version in compilation unit header (is 29805, should be 2, 3, or 4) | 10:01 |
| francois___ | it seems to be because of eu-strip | 10:01 |
| francois___ | when building the rpm | 10:01 |
| francois___ | it uses the x86 version | 10:01 |
| francois___ | I don't get that error if I use the plain mips version of elfutils | 10:02 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm, it should use the one matching the target though | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | sb2-show exec /usr/bin/eu-strip | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | osc chroot , su abuild, sb2 | 10:04 |
| Stskeeps | and then do that | 10:04 |
| francois___ | Mapped/usr/bin/eu-strip | 10:04 |
| francois___ | the file command states it's the x86 binary that is used | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | what does /usr/bin/strip say? | 10:05 |
| francois___ | same thing | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:05 |
| francois___ | maybe I'm using an old sb2config? | 10:05 |
| francois___ | mode | 10:06 |
| Stskeeps | no, should be right... | 10:06 |
| francois___ | in my mode files, I have accelerated_program_actions for both | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, makes sense | 10:07 |
| francois___ | ok | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | is version 4 shomething like 29805 in big/little endian or whatever? | 10:08 |
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| Stskeeps | https://lists.fedorahosted.org/pipermail/elfutils-devel/2012-March/002279.html maybe relevant | 10:09 |
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| francois___ | seems relevant indeed! | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | i'm almost a bit worried that not many cares about mips anymore, though | 10:13 |
| francois___ | yes it seems so... | 10:14 |
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| phako | Stskeeps: well there's a lot of arm fuzz going on - I don't really remember something like a "raspberry-mips" e.g. | 10:17 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:17 |
| phako | which I would like, the only MIPS I've access too weighs quite a lot. | 10:18 |
| sledges | good yawning | 10:20 |
| phako | Stskeeps: hm. Actually | 10:21 |
| phako | http://shop.8devices.com/carambola-bundle | 10:21 |
| * phako has interesting bookmarks | 10:22 | |
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| francois___ | I updated the Core:i586/elfutils package with the one from Debian sid that includes the patches your pointed at and it works :) | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 10:49 |
| francois___ | guess I have to rebuild all my mips packages now ^^ | 10:49 |
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| VDVsx | Stskeeps, second patch for accounts-qt integration into qmf, would be good to get this in since previous one will cause some UT's to fail: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1017 | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | 2ok | 11:06 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/1018 | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok, i'll merge after i've sorted out the accounts mess | 11:42 |
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| Stskeeps | sroedal: are there any good reasons why eglfs doesn't take nativeResourceForWindow in it's native interface? | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | thinking egldisplay | 11:47 |
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| sroedal | Stskeeps: nope, those are basically added on a need by need basis :) | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | alright, just noticed that wayland_egl integration requires nativeResourceForWindow, so | 12:16 |
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| vgrade_ | w00t: did you notice the fps log I posted | 13:03 |
| w00t | vgrade_: no, i didn't :) | 13:03 |
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| w00t | have been a bit unwell, so having trouble following everything | 13:04 |
| w00t | point me at it? | 13:04 |
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| vgrade_ | w00t: sec | 13:23 |
| vgrade_ | w00t: http://merproject.org/logs/%23mer/%23mer.2012-11-27.log.html#t2012-11-27T21:39:36 | 13:24 |
| w00t | hmm | 13:24 |
| w00t | 30fps more or less constant | 13:24 |
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| CosmoHill | hi gabrbedd | 13:44 |
| gabrbedd | CosmoHill: Howdy! | 13:45 |
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| w00t | vgrade_: thanks btw | 13:49 |
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| vgrade_ | w00t: np, anytime | 13:50 |
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| zhxt | hi, all. | 14:04 |
| zhxt | I got an error when building Mer SDK. | 14:04 |
| zhxt | Info: Installing: virtualbox-guest-mod +++++++++++++++++++++++ [148/210]ERROR: could not open directory /lib/modules/3.4.11-2.16-desktop: No such file or directory | 14:04 |
| zhxt | FATAL: could not search modules: No such file or directory | 14:04 |
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| zhxt | any suggestions? | 14:06 |
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| zhxt | the whole log is here: http://pastie.org/5447900 | 14:08 |
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| Stskeeps | pq: was able to pretty much drop in your server_wlegl stuff | 14:48 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, cool :-D | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | pq: adding rest stuff but i'm successfully sending frames from a process to the compositor and it registering the buffers | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | on qml compositor, too | 14:52 |
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| pq | Stskeeps, congrats! Can you see if the image contents come through fine? | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | pq: soon enough, registerBuffer goes fine, so i assume things ago | 14:56 |
| Stskeeps | are ok | 14:56 |
| pq | hopefully :-) | 14:56 |
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| kallecarl | lbt: any news from Slush? stuff that would be good to know at Qt Developer Days. | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | kallecarl: did you see our launch video(s)? | 16:27 |
| kallecarl | not yet | 16:27 |
| kallecarl | saw them though | 16:28 |
| kallecarl | today later | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 16:28 |
| kallecarl | are you happy with Slush experience | 16:28 |
| kallecarl | get any tips on what people want to hear more about | 16:28 |
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| Stskeeps | probably SDK :P | 16:31 |
| sledges | @ #jollamobile pls ;) | 16:31 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: platform SDK prolly...anything about apps | 16:31 |
| iekku | +1 for sledges | 16:32 |
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| iekku | if speaking sailfish sdk | 16:32 |
| kallecarl | sledges: iekku: sorry guys. I'm giving a talk in a week about Mer | 16:32 |
| iekku | kallecarl, ah. sorry :) | 16:33 |
| kallecarl | I want to know what Stskeeps and lbt encountered about Mer in Helsinki | 16:33 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: any interest in Qt? | 16:33 |
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| Stskeeps | quite a bit, qml side was received well | 16:34 |
| kallecarl | ppl interested in what they can do on top of Mer | 16:34 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: any new Mer takers? | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | i think most are looking to see what sailfish can do (which is kinda a combo thing) | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | so that includes mer too naturally | 16:36 |
| kallecarl | I'll watch videos | 16:36 |
| iekku | kallecarl, sdk presentation was good, problem in video is that you can't really see what is in the screen | 16:37 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: there was gonna be something about Mer and QtCreator announced soon | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that was part of the sdk presentation, sailfish sdk is built on top | 16:38 |
| faenil | kallecarl, we're waiting :D | 16:38 |
| kallecarl | but sailfish wiki says talk with #mer or #nemomobile | 16:39 |
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| faenil | kallecarl, yeah... | 16:40 |
| kallecarl | also...soon you'll be able to download "your own copy of QtCreator" | 16:40 |
| kallecarl | then you can work with mer and nemomobile | 16:40 |
| faenil | kallecarl, you can already clone mer-qt-creator repo and build mer qtcreator yourself | 16:41 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: lbt: are you satisfied with how Slush went for you | 16:41 |
| faenil | but it's missing Jolla components :) | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | kallecarl: up | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | yup | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | we got to show what mer is really capable of with a bit of ui work | 16:41 |
| kallecarl | were their any nibbles from mfrs or such? | 16:41 |
| kallecarl | there | 16:41 |
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| Stskeeps | there was some interested, but it wasn't really a trade show | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | more like startups | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | i have a good feeling about it, at least | 16:42 |
| kallecarl | any messages I should include at Qt show? | 16:43 |
| mikhas | "News about Qt's premature death haven been greatly exaggerated." | 16:43 |
| iekku | mikhas, :D | 16:44 |
| kallecarl | from Nokia to open ... has it already changed things for Qt people? | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | kallecarl: something about that this shows that even a qt4 stack can be made to perform extremely well | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | it's not even qt5, so it'll absolutely fly on qt5 | 16:45 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: cool | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | and mer delivers the engine to get to 60fps with ease and stay there | 16:45 |
| kallecarl | what startups - devices? or app developers? | 16:46 |
| * ShadowJK would've generally thought newer meant more bloat and slower perf | 16:46 | |
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| kallecarl | ShadowJK: not in MerLand | 16:46 |
| faenil | powered by Stskeeps™ | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | kallecarl: it was a startup festival of sorts for all sorts of finnish startups | 16:46 |
| kallecarl | newer means 1/4 the # of packags | 16:46 |
| ShadowJK | Does it sacrifice response time to get higher fps? | 16:46 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: more software people then, but maybe some h/w too? | 16:47 |
| iekku | mostly sw | 16:47 |
| kallecarl | yeah | 16:47 |
| iekku | there were also some companies from scandinavia and russia | 16:47 |
| kallecarl | should be more h/w in California I think | 16:47 |
| kallecarl | more than Finland that is | 16:47 |
| kallecarl | but dominated by software | 16:48 |
| iekku | slush had this "this isn't california.." slogan :P | 16:48 |
| kallecarl | the next Angry Birds | 16:48 |
| kallecarl | iekku: was it snowing? | 16:48 |
| kallecarl | were people sane? | 16:48 |
| mikhas | hah! | 16:48 |
| mikhas | startup people … sane | 16:48 |
| mikhas | :-D | 16:48 |
| kallecarl | did you see Arnold Schwarzenegger | 16:49 |
| kallecarl | not California for sure | 16:49 |
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| iekku | kallecarl, weather was suprisingly good. no snowing, etc | 16:49 |
| mikhas | despite the conference's name | 16:49 |
| iekku | kallecarl, define sane? | 16:50 |
| iekku | not sure if i ever have met sane person | 16:50 |
| iekku | :P | 16:50 |
| kallecarl | defies definition...that's the beauty of it | 16:50 |
| iekku | if i have, i bet they haven't talk to me | 16:50 |
| kallecarl | cuz you're suomalainen | 16:51 |
| kallecarl | ulkomaa ppl don't know how to speak the language | 16:51 |
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| iekku | kallecarl, i have thoughts that my nationality isn't the reason :) but anyway i think creative and innovative people are insane in some way, so | 16:52 |
| kallecarl | ys | 16:52 |
| kallecarl | I was some years in Joensuu | 16:53 |
| iekku | uh | 16:53 |
| kallecarl | hulu jatka they called me | 16:53 |
| iekku | in uni? | 16:53 |
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| kallecarl | lyseo | 16:53 |
| iekku | kallecarl, hullu jätkä | 16:53 |
| kallecarl | I'm in the states we don't recognize that dot stuff | 16:53 |
| kallecarl | but yes | 16:53 |
| kallecarl | hullu | 16:53 |
| kallecarl | hullu ja olut ja koskenkorva | 16:54 |
| iekku | jajajajajaj | 16:54 |
| iekku | hahahahha even | 16:54 |
| kallecarl | okay I will talk about Finland in silicon valley then | 16:54 |
| kallecarl | thanks Stskeeps lbt please email if you think of anything else that I should mention re: Mer | 16:55 |
| iekku | kallecarl, try to get more vendors :) | 16:55 |
| kallecarl | iekku: yes, selling what? | 16:56 |
| kallecarl | device mfrs | 16:56 |
| iekku | dunno | 16:56 |
| Stskeeps | small to medium businesses which want to make devices, i think | 16:56 |
| iekku | +1 | 16:56 |
| kallecarl | okay | 16:56 |
| iekku | i think it would be health for mer to get more companies around it | 16:57 |
| kallecarl | Is Mer running well on RaspPI and the like | 16:57 |
| kallecarl | easy to install etc. | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 16:58 |
| kallecarl | okay I'm good | 16:58 |
| kallecarl | it fits with what I've already put together | 16:58 |
| kallecarl | except I'll do more about getting more vendors | 16:58 |
| kallecarl | speaking to them anyway | 16:58 |
| iekku | :) | 16:59 |
| iekku | thanks kallecarl | 16:59 |
| kallecarl | it is my pleasure | 16:59 |
| kallecarl | I like the Mer project | 16:59 |
| iekku | you aren't alone with that feeling | 16:59 |
| kallecarl | fyi ... I do a lot with KDE and work on Plasma Active as non-techie | 17:00 |
| kallecarl | the person who goes to trade shows | 17:00 |
| kallecarl | booth babe | 17:00 |
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| mikhas | actually, Mer could serve as an interesting platform for medical services | 17:04 |
| mikhas | say, medical homecare, medical entertainment devices … | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | well, that's where slaine is looking, http://lincor.com/ | 17:05 |
| mikhas | d'oh | 17:05 |
| Stskeeps | first mer was a prototype base for next-gen healthcare systems in the home | 17:06 |
| slaine | :) | 17:06 |
| phako | medical entertainment? | 17:07 |
| mikhas | given that Finland spends ridiculous amounts of taxpayer money on healthcare, this sounds obvious now | 17:07 |
| mikhas | phako, yeah, ever heard of the game "flatliners"? | 17:07 |
| phako | I saw a game to teach disabled people waling again yesterday | 17:08 |
| phako | walking | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | so, yeah, mer makes an excellent basis for that kind of stuff | 17:08 |
| mikhas | one team (usually the doctor) tries to keep the lines low while the other team (usually nurses) revive the patient | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | my personal goal is to make smarthouses with mer | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:08 |
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| mikhas | phako, The Walking Dead? | 17:09 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: I could see your interest in Glass in the Sailfish stuff | 17:09 |
| mikhas | I'll show myself out. | 17:10 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine, hehe, i didn't design any ui parts :) | 17:18 |
| slaine | Your ethos obviously has far reach ;) | 17:18 |
| mikhas | Stskeeps, isn't the buzzword home automation? | 17:22 |
| mikhas | haven't seen smart house yet | 17:22 |
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| lbt | o/ kallecarl | 17:26 |
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| kallecarl | lbt: hey there | 17:53 |
| kallecarl | came looking for any last minute tips on what should be covered at Qt Developer Days | 17:54 |
| kallecarl | anything new coming out of Slush and whatever else | 17:54 |
| SpeedEvil | what does 'qt' stand for. | 17:55 |
| kallecarl | it was better than "cute" | 17:55 |
| kallecarl | niftier for geeks at the time apparently | 17:56 |
| kallecarl | I don't know | 17:56 |
| SpeedEvil | nvm. | 17:56 |
| SpeedEvil | I was referring to an | 17:56 |
| SpeedEvil | a silly question back in maemo times. | 17:56 |
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| ljp | quasar technologies | 18:01 |
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| lbt | kallecarl: one thing that came out of Slush is that Jolla is supporting Mer's work on QtCreator as the foundation of the Sailfish SDK and clearly there will be an app-store story based around Qt apps. | 18:18 |
| kallecarl | lbt: just watched the videos. No mention of Mer | 18:25 |
| kallecarl | in those | 18:25 |
| kallecarl | how visible was Mer at Slush? | 18:25 |
| lbt | really - I don't think it was in the keynote but I mentioned it a bit in the SDK talk | 18:26 |
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| kallecarl | so the Sailfish OS seems like it is app-centric | 18:26 |
| kallecarl | URL for SDK talk? | 18:26 |
| lbt | jolla.com | 18:26 |
| kallecarl | k | 18:26 |
| lbt | 4th video link | 18:27 |
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| lbt | Slush was very much a launch of Sailfish UI and Sailfish SDK by Jolla - Mer was certainly mentioned but it wasn't the focus by any means. | 18:28 |
| Bostik | the audience in SDK talk certainly knew about it | 18:28 |
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| lbt | gah - can ping my device and see usb0 on it - but ssh is not up | 18:38 |
| kallecarl | Stskeeps: is the welcome bot. who knew? | 18:40 |
| lbt | hehe | 18:40 |
| lbt | I think this is systemd's wonderful "if in doubt, fail" attitude | 18:42 |
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| kallecarl | lbt: did you tell people that you are going to be in the U.S.? | 18:54 |
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| lbt | who? | 18:55 |
| kallecarl | ppl at Slush | 18:56 |
| iekku | kallecarl, many newcomers actually thinks that Stskeeps is bot :D | 18:56 |
| lbt | yes, some of them | 18:56 |
| kallecarl | were there U.S. financial ppl there who were interested in more? | 18:56 |
| kallecarl | he is efficient at welcoming ppl sure | 18:57 |
| lbt | not really tbh - focus was very much on Sailfish | 18:57 |
| * lbt has guests ... bbl8r | 18:57 | |
| RzR | well how he may be one, how to know ... how to even know we may are ones too | 18:57 |
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| iekku | RzR, i have seen him writing to here irl :P | 18:58 |
| iekku | hmm, am i a bot? | 18:58 |
| RzR | well robots may look like humans , rip off his flesh to check | 18:58 |
| * iekku goes to think about that | 18:59 | |
| RzR | iekku, people who denies existence of robots , are actually robots themselves they just need to accept it ... | 19:00 |
| kallecarl | did Stskeeps pass the Turing test? | 19:00 |
| RzR | let me suggest to try that one | 19:01 |
| RzR | http://bladerunner.wikia.com/wiki/Voight-Kampff_machine | 19:01 |
| kallecarl | that plus the needle from Matrix that goes under his skin | 19:03 |
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| kallecarl | lbt: great job presenting without slides | 19:04 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: ever wanted a VW Camper? | 19:05 |
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| kallecarl | how much of the application development demo is done in Qt/QML? | 19:09 |
| kallecarl | iekku: ^^ | 19:10 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/VW_Bus_lookalike_2.JPG | 19:13 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning ljp | 20:17 |
| ljp | hello | 20:17 |
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| andre__ | How is the driver situation for the Vivaldi tablet? Is it all free software? | 20:56 |
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| andre__ | I only remember aseigo's fights with Chinese hardware vendors, explaining what GPL means, but don't remember the outcome... | 20:56 |
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| SpeedEvil | fuck all | 20:58 |
| SpeedEvil | in general | 20:58 |
| andre__ | SpeedEvil, I'll try! | 20:58 |
| SpeedEvil | oh, I missed the first line | 20:59 |
| SpeedEvil | don't know specifically | 20:59 |
| andre__ | ehehe | 20:59 |
| Stskeeps | andre__: vendor didn't want to provide kernel, i think | 20:59 |
| SpeedEvil | as far as I know, open GPU is impossible | 20:59 |
| CosmoHill | hi SpeedEvil | 21:00 |
| SpeedEvil | hi | 21:00 |
| andre__ | I only want to contradict a posting by RMS on a gnome mailing list stating that there is no 100% free tablet. I love to contradict him, you know :P | 21:00 |
| SpeedEvil | there is no 100% free laptop | 21:00 |
| SpeedEvil | or desktop | 21:00 |
| SpeedEvil | ... | 21:00 |
| Stskeeps | andre__: exopc? ;p | 21:01 |
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| andre__ | Stskeeps, hihi :P | 21:01 |
| SpeedEvil | calling firmware running on different processors irrelevant because it's convenient is a silly position | 21:01 |
| SpeedEvil | there are over a dozen processors in many phones | 21:02 |
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| lbt | also, fwiw got 3.0.8 kernel and 2.6.32.9 kernels running | 23:35 |
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