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| Stskeeps | morn mardy, Sfiet_Konstantin | 07:16 |
| mardy | Stskeeps: morning! | 07:16 |
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| niqt | hi | 07:17 |
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| mardy | kontio: FYI, the accounts-sso packages should now be buildable with Qt5 as well, in case you plan to switch to that | 07:18 |
| Stskeeps | that's good news for me :) | 07:18 |
| kontio | mardy: cool, we will need that in long term for sure... | 07:19 |
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| Stskeeps | lpotter: how's winter in brisbane? 30 c? | 07:24 |
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| lpotter | spring. 32 today. should be 35 by Friday | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | not bad | 07:27 |
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| VDVsx | mardy, will accounts-sso be part of ubuntu in the future ? just curiosity :) | 07:35 |
| mardy | VDVsx: it's already there, in 12:10 :-) | 07:35 |
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| VDVsx | mardy, cool, so there's some ui as well ? | 07:36 |
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| davidqi | hi all, does anyone know if the mer can be build locally ? | 07:45 |
| davidqi | stupid question | 07:45 |
| davidqi | I am really a newbie | 07:45 |
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| Stskeeps | you can build Mer fully on your own OBS, or make images locally. Mer is a source package distro, so a builder builds source into RPM packages. you then in a seperate operation put those packages into a image | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | so you can build your own customized images on your own | 07:47 |
| davidqi | is it necessary to get OBS access before that? I mean, ldt and X-Fade seem to be very busy, I want to download all the source codes and build it in my own machine | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: you don't need to, but you rarely want to build everything on your own | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | you can set up an own OBS or use the sdk to build applications on top | 07:49 |
| kulve | are the slush videos somewhere archived? I would like to see one particular (non-jolla) video from the event stage? | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | haven't seen others around yet | 07:50 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: do you mean, I dont need to apply meego community OBS, right ? can I set up my own OBS? | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: what do you hope to do practically? build own app, or build own image for your device, etc? | 07:53 |
| davidqi | the later, build own image for my device | 07:53 |
| Stskeeps | then you don't really need obs access at first | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | platform sdk should be enough :) | 07:54 |
| cybette | kulve, Stskeeps: http://new.livestream.com/slushlive | 07:55 |
| davidqi | the platform SDK is enough for building a mer image? | 07:55 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: yes | 07:55 |
| mardy | VDVsx: yep: http://www.iloveubuntu.net/online-accounts-landed-ubuntu-1210-default | 07:55 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: but the source codes are still a must part, right? | 07:57 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: nop, Mer produces RPM binary packages you can build image from | 07:57 |
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| Stskeeps | davidqi: if you want, you can customize those but for most hardware, you don't need to | 07:57 |
| davidqi | could you please send a link or guide on how to set up own OBS ? | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: i will later, but first, try to follow http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK and see how easy it is to make your own image in that | 07:58 |
| davidqi | and also, a naive question, mer image is just a kernel? or also includes the rootfs? | 07:59 |
| VDVsx | mardy, yep, already found the code, vala now :) | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: mer core does not include hardware adaptation, you add a kernel that works with your system. so mer gives you a rootfs | 07:59 |
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| mardy | VDVsx: just the UI is vala; and it may be that we'll rewrite that in C | 08:00 |
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| Stskeeps | davidqi: and you can add hardware adaptation (opengl es drivers, kernel, configuration) etc to that | 08:00 |
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| VDVsx | mardy, in nemo there's still the meego bits with some MTF and qml mixed, looks a bit over-engineered for me atm :) | 08:02 |
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| Stskeeps | ew MTF | 08:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:03 |
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| mardy | brrr | 08:03 |
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| VDVsx | mardy, if I got the structure correct, the approach in ubuntu looks a bit simpler, you have only the libaccount-plugin and then the control center UI and the plugins | 08:07 |
| kulve | cybette: thanks! I found the presentation from there that I was actually looking for | 08:07 |
| mardy | VDVsx: it's very similar, it's just that where in MeeGo we were spawning the account plugins as separate processes, in Ubuntu they are .so modules | 08:08 |
| mardy | VDVsx: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1MVsDdwzff6LqQ6i3z-cSgg8dHjb5DaHMXFeWtIa6Cvo/edit# | 08:08 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: great information. thanks. until now, which versions of linux kernel could co-operate with latest mer? | 08:09 |
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| Stskeeps | davidqi: 2.6.37 and up is a good bet | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | 2.6.32 is possible but a bit painful | 08:09 |
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| davidqi | great, great, I will go to study now, thanks Stskeeps | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | if there's any questions, feel free to ask at any time here :) | 08:10 |
| VDVsx | mardy, cool, thx | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | and if documentation is lacking, help fill in our wiki | 08:10 |
| davidqi | what do you mean, "help fill in your wiki"? | 08:11 |
| davidqi | you mean, I can fill ? | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes, as in, help improve | 08:11 |
| davidqi | sure, if I can, but I am now a newbie, true newbie | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, we all start somewhere :) | 08:11 |
| davidqi | see you , really lucky to get your help. | 08:12 |
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| cybette | kulve: anytime :) | 08:14 |
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| Jucato | where would I be able to find info to get started on making a hardware adaptation for an android tablet that I think no one else has (or would be interested in porting to). I don't even know where to start. and I'm not a vendor or anything like that, just a newbie with hardware porting, so kinda afraid of wasting your time :/ | 08:14 |
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| Jucato | (the tablet is an Arnova 7 G2 http://arnovatech.com/products/g2/arn_7/index.html?country=ph&lang=en ) | 08:15 |
| kulve | cybette: I of course did try to find it from there before asking here but somehow managed to convince myself that those were only for live streams :) | 08:15 |
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| Jucato | kulve: because the URL is easily misleading :) thanks for the link as well cybette | 08:16 |
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| cybette | yeah the URL is misleading. <plug> Jolla-specific videos can be found at http://www.youtube.com/jollaofficial </plug> | 08:19 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: when I do the "basic tasks" in the platform SDK webpage. I met following error | 08:27 |
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| davidqi | mic create: no such option: --pack-to | 08:28 |
| Stskeeps | is this mic done inside the sdk? | 08:29 |
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| davidqi | no, the "Basic tasks" section says: Mer images are build using mic image creator | 08:37 |
| Stskeeps | yes, you need to enter the sdk | 08:37 |
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| davidqi | how to enter the sdk? I just run "curl -k -o mer-sdk-i486-vm.ks https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/6.1.0/0.20120920.1/mer-sdk-i486-vm.ks" | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | davidqi: the top of the page | 08:39 |
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| davidqi | en? | 08:40 |
| davidqi | do you mean the "cd $HOME; curl -k -o ......." | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | yes, and the sdk enter command | 08:41 |
| davidqi | I am not sure which actions should be taken first? the "Basic tasks"? or the top of the page? | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | the top of the page, and do the basic tasks inside it | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | brb | 08:42 |
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| niqt | Stskeeps when will new mer and nemo meeting? | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | i think we may have bug triage today, if iekku is not busy | 08:54 |
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| iekku | whole day in meetings :x | 08:56 |
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| halVIII_ | hello, I try to devel for sailfish and/or nemo, I've build mer-qt-creator, but I didn't see anything new. what should I see in qtcreator for nemo ? | 09:00 |
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| halVIII_ | qmlcontacts works, but it's very hideous, not like he should be. | 09:04 |
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| lbt | halVIII_: good point - I should make sure you're building the correct branch | 09:22 |
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| halVIII_ | lbt, $ git branch *master | 09:30 |
| lbt | use the mer branch | 09:30 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 10:01 |
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| lbt | mmm we appear to have a "rollingcat" release of Mer:Tools http://repo.pub.meego.com/releases/Mer-Tools/ | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | rollingcat? | 10:06 |
| lbt | I had the release command typed pre-slush and I guess at some point I started typing 'cat <file>' with focus set wrong :) | 10:07 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 10:08 |
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| lbt | fixed now :) | 10:10 |
| lbt | I did wonder why my SDK didn't update | 10:10 |
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| slaine | All rested after Slush ? | 10:14 |
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| Bostik | not quite yet | 10:20 |
| Bostik | single-dad weekend right after Slush was not the most invigorating combination, to be honest :) | 10:20 |
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| sledges | good yawning! | 10:40 |
| eke | good yawning! | 10:40 |
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| timoph | lbt: any plans to do a bit more user friendy setup for creator + virtualbox? I was thinking that it should be quite easy to do a vbox setup script/application with VBoxManage | 10:43 |
| lbt | done, in git :) | 10:44 |
| timoph | ah | 10:44 |
| timoph | cool | 10:44 |
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| halVIII_ | more than 1h30 to compil mer-qt-creator, and even notfinish | 11:00 |
| lbt | halVIII_: yep - you get a *lot* of code in there | 11:02 |
| lbt | but that does seem a bit long - have you got a multi-core machine? and are you using make -j ? | 11:02 |
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| Sage__ | http://pastie.org/5436663 | 11:07 |
| Sage__ | so how is one supposed to run the tests | 11:07 |
| timoph | -o /tmp/filename.xml | 11:10 |
| halVIII_ | lbt, no just make , I try in a fedora17 vbox, in windows7, | 11:10 |
| timoph | not sure if it's supposed to work without specifying the file | 11:10 |
| * halVIII_ use windows7 only because of fan laptop, on linux fans are so noisy | 11:11 | |
| lbt | halVIII_: OK - your VM should have been setup with multi-cpus (assuming you have them) | 11:11 |
| lbt | and then you run : make -j4 | 11:11 |
| lbt | (assuming 4 cpu/threads) | 11:12 |
| halVIII_ | ok, must make clean before ? | 11:12 |
| halVIII_ | lbt, | 11:12 |
| timoph | Sage__: a few lines up ^ | 11:12 |
| lbt | no | 11:12 |
| sampos | timoph, Sage__: yes, the output file is mandatory | 11:14 |
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| mountain | Hi, I am trying 'zypper update' in Mer SDK, but get error "Error message: Couldn't resolve host 'releases.merproject.org", either with or without proxy set, what I missed here? | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | check your /etc/resolv.conf | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | you may need to re-enter the sdk | 11:20 |
| Sage__ | timoph: uh... it should say that ;) | 11:21 |
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| Sage__ | not by crashing randomly but say that -o needs to be a file :) | 11:21 |
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| Sage__ | timoph, sampos: but thanks got it working | 11:22 |
| Sage__ | lbt: ping, you are using repomd-pattern-builder with sdk as well right? | 11:23 |
| halVIII_ | lbt, uh 'time make -j 4' = user 2m28.975 ! I suppose the job was done before | 11:23 |
| Sage__ | qa people is happy about this probably http://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/repomd-pattern-builder/commit/ec6ad29ad8a19e13e533a622211a9937a452ff6e ;) | 11:24 |
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| halVIII_ | ahh maybe the problem is more meegotouch than qtcreator ... | 11:29 |
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| halVIII_ | https://github.com/nemomobile <--- this is the last/good version meegotouch ? this is use by nemo? | 11:33 |
| Sage__ | yes | 11:33 |
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| lbt | mountain: chat in here is fine too | 11:43 |
| mountain | thanks, I see :), I also tried mount /parent root manually, but seems not work with /etc/resolv.conf, I will try with 'sdk mount' all over again. | 11:44 |
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| lbt | so : /etc/resolv.conf -> /parentroot//run/resolvconf/resolv.conf | 11:46 |
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| lbt | mountain: inside the SDK does /parentroot/ contain complete entries for the host's /run (and /etc and /bin and so on) ? | 11:48 |
| mountain | now, I quit sdk and run 'sdk mount' then 'sdk enter' again, it works | 11:49 |
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| zuh | Hm, Mer release repos have x86 and MIPS packages. Are those just "because we can" builds or is there some specific hw they are running on? | 11:49 |
| mountain | previously I just run 'mount --bind /. /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/parentroot/', and /parentroot/ doesn't contains complete entries in SDK | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | zuh: x86 we use for sdk and x86 vms | 11:50 |
| lbt | zuh: x86 is for VMs and various HW like ExoPC | 11:50 |
| zuh | Ah, of course the SDK | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | zuh: MIPS.. well, can't hurt | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:50 |
| lbt | mountain: are you following the SDK instructions? | 11:50 |
| zuh | Heh | 11:50 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 11:50 |
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| Stskeeps | zuh: the story is that meego had a production ready MIPS port that intel refused to admit to meego | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | zuh: just imagine how the MIPS STB market could look today | 11:51 |
| mountain | previously not, now I followed and it works all fine. | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | and i got a hold of that and put it into mer | 11:51 |
| lbt | mountain: *g* ... always a good idea | 11:51 |
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| mountain | thank you, and sorry for the bothering, I am new... | 11:51 |
| lbt | np | 11:52 |
| CosmoHill | everybody was new once | 11:52 |
| zuh | Stskeeps: Ah, another sad story in the realm of what could have been. Do they never end? :( | 11:52 |
| lbt | zuh: nah, not sad, look at where we are now :) | 11:53 |
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| Stskeeps | MIPS seems really mostly given up on by rest of mainline linux, which is curious | 11:53 |
| timoph | where mips is actually in use? | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of stbs | 11:54 |
| * timoph hasn't been really following the mips story | 11:54 | |
| timoph | so the demand for well maintained mips base is there | 11:55 |
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| timoph | would be cool have a mer powered stb | 11:56 |
| timoph | but then again, I don't own a tv :p | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | i decided it was cheaper to get a big tv with a tuner and not use the tuner | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:57 |
| timoph | actually I lied. I do own a tv. a 9 inch one | 11:58 |
| timoph | bought it because it has composite in. I'm using it with my raspi | 11:58 |
| timoph | err. 7 inch | 11:59 |
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| lbt | Mer bug triage in #mer-meeting in 1min | 11:59 |
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| Sage__ | plundstr_: are we sure we want to limit the environment files dir only to .conf files? | 12:36 |
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| plundstr_ | Sage_: I had to come up with something how to take in stuff. We can't take everything. Forexample after editing there is file~ #file# file.back etc | 12:37 |
| plundstr_ | systed seems to have all .conf so it was logical choice | 12:38 |
| Sage__ | well, environment files are often also scripts that have #!/bin/sh or similar in the top and some might want to execute them thus pondering the .conf only | 12:39 |
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| Sage__ | plundstr_: I can understand the reasoning but still not sure if that is the right way to go. | 12:40 |
| phaeron_n9 | Sage__, rather not execute scripts, they are supposed to be mappings | 12:40 |
| plundstr_ | Sage_: Ok, not a big deal to change it anything. But /bin/sh is no, no. Same rules go for these as EnvironmentFile | 12:41 |
| Sage__ | I'm mainly pondering all the things I've seen in the /etc/profile.d/ :) | 12:41 |
| Sage__ | Well, we can start making it perfect world and accept only .conf sure :) | 12:42 |
| phaeron_n9 | Sage__, we dont aim to support that mess :) | 12:42 |
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| Sage__ | plundstr_: other than that I'm ok. you should though submit it as git patch format not git diff > file :) | 12:45 |
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| plundstr_ | ääh, I used "git diff --patch" for testing it before doing commit, so patch file stayed like that :) | 12:49 |
| Sage__ | :P | 12:50 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, where could I discuss closed source debugging (asking you, as libhybris stems from there). #gdb is silent :) | 14:12 |
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| Stskeeps | sledges: cat /proc/PID/maps , strace and sacrificing goats | 14:56 |
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| sledges | a tip of how to find at which point a closed source library stops reading your passed strucure and error out? | 14:57 |
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| davidqi | Stskeeps: I met an error during the "mic create ... " command, it is : Error <creator>: Command 'modprobe' is not available | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | prefix it with PATH=/sbin:$PATH | 15:07 |
| sledges | lbt mentioned latest SDK should have had this fixed already :} | 15:08 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but it doesn't reflect in the tarball yet i think | 15:08 |
| davidqi | it seems I can run "sudo mic create ... " at any directory, is this correct ? | 15:09 |
| aportale | Does anyone use the MerSDK-VM under a Windows host, incl. home folder sharing? | 15:10 |
| davidqi | I mean, the command: sudo mic create fs mer-sdk-i486-vm.ks -o . --pkgmgr=yum --arch i486 --pack-to=mer-sdk-i486-vm-latest.tar.bz2 | 15:10 |
| davidqi | Stskeeps: I ever thought, the command should be run at the $HOME directory | 15:11 |
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| * aportale has issues with MerSDK apparently not considering the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, therefore cannot ssh to Mer with key. | 15:11 | |
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| lbt | davidqi: you sorted for OBS access? | 15:18 |
| lbt | aportale: hmm | 15:18 |
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| lbt | aportale: we'd need to run the sshd on the console with -d | 15:19 |
| aportale | lbt: on the client/host? | 15:20 |
| lbt | in the client/guest | 15:20 |
| lbt | I'll look at debug instructions - you'd need to stop the sshd.socket in systemd | 15:21 |
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| lbt | and then run it as root | 15:21 |
| aportale | lbt: Hmmm. Why was I then able to ssh into MerSDK-VM with a Linux-Host? | 15:23 |
| lbt | yeah | 15:23 |
| aportale | lbt: I am able to ssh in via password | 15:23 |
| lbt | davidqi: you should be able to run : sudo sdk-setup --core latest --sdk next | 15:24 |
| lbt | then follow instructions | 15:24 |
| lbt | aportale: so you say ssh isn't considering them - so I was going to look at the sshd output - plus I don't know what's happening windows-side :) | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | i'm willing to bet it's permissiosn related | 15:25 |
| lbt | me too | 15:26 |
| aportale | lbt: ah, Ok. The file permissions of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys are -rwxrwxrwx mersdk:mersdk | 15:26 |
| lbt | yep | 15:27 |
| lbt | and sshd doesn't like that :) | 15:27 |
| lbt | but I thought it'd be the same using shared folder in a linux host | 15:27 |
| lbt | so apparently shared folders on linux keep the permissions | 15:29 |
| lbt | aportale: can you set the perms of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys *on windows* to be "only user has write" | 15:29 |
| aportale | lbt: Seems so. And chmodding from the VM does not have any effect on Windows Host | 15:30 |
| aportale | lbt: I tried with chmod 644. No effect | 15:30 |
| lbt | yeah - do it windows side | 15:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: fairly sure that's not going to work :P | 15:30 |
| lbt | me too | 15:31 |
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| aportale | lbt, Stskeeps: Setting the file read-only Windows-side gives me a -r-xr-xr-x | 15:31 |
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| yunta | does mer work with samsung galaxy tab 2 ? | 15:32 |
| lbt | aportale: that may help | 15:32 |
| aportale | lbt, Stskeeps: Does not seem to work, either. I'll look if Windows has more fine-grained permission handling | 15:33 |
| lbt | it does - the mapping is the isse | 15:33 |
| lbt | u | 15:33 |
| aportale | lbt: Is that mapping done by the guest additions? | 15:33 |
| lbt | yes - and possibly the mount command | 15:34 |
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| lbt | OK - so... we can try tweaking the mount command | 15:35 |
| lbt | aportale: login as root and run : umount /home/mersdk | 15:36 |
| lbt | then | 15:36 |
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| lbt | mount -tvboxsf -o"rw,exec,uid=1001,gid=1001,dev,fmode=755,dmode=755" home /home/mersdk | 15:37 |
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| aportale | lbt: no unmount command in the SDK :) Any idea what to zypper in? | 15:43 |
| lbt | umount - no 'n' | 15:43 |
| lbt | and it needs to be root/sudo | 15:43 |
| * aportale noob | 15:43 | |
| aportale | lbt: it works!!1! :D | 15:46 |
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| lbt | cool - and that's a reasonable default too | 15:46 |
| * aportale bows to lbt's unix-kung-fu | 15:48 | |
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| davidqi | lbt: I just applied the access to meego community OBS, | 16:04 |
| davidqi | 12 hours ago | 16:04 |
| davidqi | would you please help to speed the progress, thanks. | 16:05 |
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| lbt | davidqi: yep - need your meego username | 16:13 |
| lbt | same as nick - done - have fun :) | 16:14 |
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| davidqi | lbt: you mean, you have added the access for me, right? btw, my meego account name is "sdqifeng" | 16:28 |
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| lbt | I added access rights for the user davidqi ... | 16:30 |
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| lbt | I think you registered twice :) | 16:31 |
| davidqi | yes | 16:31 |
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| davidqi | a mistake | 16:32 |
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| lbt | OK - both are enabled now :) | 16:32 |
| davidqi | but I can not remember the davidqi's email | 16:32 |
| lbt | have twice as much fun! | 16:32 |
| davidqi | thanks a lot | 16:32 |
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| halVIII_ | obs nemo is same then obsmeego ? | 16:38 |
| halVIII_ | account I mean | 16:39 |
| lbt | Nemo currently uses the MeeGo OBS, yes | 16:40 |
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| halVIII_ | I didn't remember my password, I was https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Aniala | 16:42 |
| lbt | there's a pw reset on meego.com | 16:43 |
| lbt | so if you do that then it'll reset on the obs too | 16:43 |
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| halVIII_ | ok passwd reset, I just must wait a few hour or minutes for the mail. :) | 16:45 |
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| lbt | minutes I think - hope it still works :) | 16:50 |
| lbt | bbiab | 16:50 |
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| halVIII_ | maybe an Elop's restriction ^^ | 16:54 |
| halVIII_ | waouh 22 months ago last commit for meego .. long time ago | 16:56 |
| halVIII_ | in a far away galaxy... | 16:56 |
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| shmerl | Hi! | 17:02 |
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| Stskeeps | m00 | 17:02 |
| shmerl | Is there some documentation on sb2 how to set up rules for it to handle when to run qemu and when not? | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | the modes | 17:02 |
| shmerl | For example when compiling Firefox, it uses g++ but it also uses python a lot. | 17:03 |
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| shmerl | Running python through qemu is pointless there. | 17:03 |
| shmerl | (it only slows things down) | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | it does make sense for correctness though | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | because if we gave it a host python, it wouldn't have same modules | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | as the target | 17:04 |
| shmerl | I guess, if we expect python to have differences across archs | 17:04 |
| shmerl | Ah, I see. | 17:04 |
| shmerl | I.e. target python can have different modules? | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | scratchbox1 had this issue | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | made porting a pita | 17:05 |
| shmerl | Makes sense. | 17:05 |
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| KaIRC | in terms of Firefox, the created binaries etc. do not depend on python, though, it's only the build process that uses python scripts for a number of tasks, so in that case it should not matter which python you're using there | 17:19 |
| shmerl | That's what I thought as well. | 17:20 |
| shmerl | But consistency does makes sense, if host and target pythons differ for some rason. | 17:20 |
| shmerl | I.e. even for the build process. | 17:20 |
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| Stskeeps | i've considered to make it a little more flexible | 17:20 |
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| shmerl | In terms of build time - using host python can speed things up noticeably | 17:21 |
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| shmerl | I wonder if it's possible to set up some automated Mozilla build with Mer SDK so it'll show when it breaks, when someone commits some wrong stuff. | 17:27 |
| shmerl | There are a bunch of "tinderboxes" for different OSes arleady. | 17:28 |
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| halVIII_ | lbt, oh sorry I forget to say thank you to you for telling me the good branch for mer-qt-creato.git :) | 18:20 |
| lbt | np - working? | 18:20 |
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| halVIII_ | yes 'mer' is present in 'options' and qmlcontact look nice | 18:21 |
| halVIII_ | now setup target | 18:22 |
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| Bostik | rrrrright... | 18:43 |
| Bostik | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/qt5-qtwebkit/Source/JavaScriptCore' | 18:43 |
| Bostik | make[2]: ruby: Command not found | 18:43 |
| Bostik | here we go again | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | oh dear god | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | what are those guys smoking? | 18:45 |
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| ftonello | anyone interested in a positions (middleware/qt/kernel) for linux engineer in california? more information please, pvt | 18:46 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so, for webkit you need python perl (?) and ruby ? | 18:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :O | 18:47 |
| shmerl | Gecko also builds with Python involved. | 18:48 |
| shmerl | I wouldn't be surprised. | 18:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I can understand for python | 18:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | alright | 18:48 |
| shmerl | Well, if Python, then why not Ruby. | 18:49 |
| shmerl | It's not any worse. | 18:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but don't tell me that you NEED ruby, because ruby is something special | 18:49 |
| shmerl | Special in what sense? It's a general purpose language. | 18:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | one dep to a general purpose language and interpreter is enough | 18:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't involve two or three of them | 18:49 |
| shmerl | Well, yeah, to use both sounds redundant. | 18:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and Qt uses perl | 18:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ... | 18:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so for QtWebkit you might (not sure) to use 3 of them ... | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | when you should clean up your office: when you find your fosdem 2011 talk | 18:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | soon, you will need java to build webkit, you will see | 18:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Stskeeps: :) | 18:50 |
| shmerl | Hehe. May be Erlang too. | 18:50 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah, why not actually ? | 18:51 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hello Venemo_N9 | 18:58 |
| Venemo_N9 | hey Sfiet_Konstantin | 18:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Bostik: are you trying to build QtWebkit from Git ? | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | evening Venemo_N9 | 18:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Bostik: I'm trying to get it built on a Debian box, but it fails ... | 18:59 |
| Venemo_N9 | hey Stskeeps | 18:59 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 18:59 |
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| Stskeeps | hello teroa :) | 19:02 |
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| Bostik | Sfiet_Konstantin: qt5-beta2, and yes | 19:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok beta2 | 19:15 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: whatever it is, it must be inherently toxic and highly corruptive | 19:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i'm always trying the latest git | 19:16 |
| Bostik | "nothing provides ruby" ... figures | 19:16 |
| lbt | Bostik: OMG | 19:17 |
| lbt | I guess for testing? | 19:17 |
| lbt | Mer has got ruby in Mer:Tools | 19:17 |
| Bostik | lbt: I'll see what exactly needs it and see if I can just drop the entire requirement | 19:17 |
| Bostik | because this is insanity | 19:18 |
| Bostik | hmm... might be llint only... | 19:18 |
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| Bostik | seems to be upstream change, and ruby is "only" needed for something called "offlineasm" | 19:20 |
| lbt | I would not be surprised to see ruby in Core one day - but if we split out the 'toolchain' parts then it makes sense to consider ruby as part of the 'make test' | 19:20 |
| Bostik | my guess is that's the "not-quite-jit" macro assembly system used to kickstart bytecode generation | 19:20 |
| lbt | sounds like it | 19:22 |
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| * lpotter blinks and reads about asha bt-slam | 19:29 | |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 19:33 |
| iekku | lpotter, o/ | 19:33 |
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| lpotter | its not really a motion gesture. just looks for highest rssi over a certain level and blindly sends | 19:35 |
| lpotter | obvious | 19:35 |
| lpotter | \o anyway :) | 19:36 |
| lbt | o/ | 19:36 |
| lbt | who has recently (weeks-ish) registered on meego.com ? | 19:36 |
| lbt | and did you a) get an email b) need it to login ? | 19:37 |
| lpotter | is recently a few years ago by chance? :) | 19:37 |
| lbt | Moulinex: just checking | 19:37 |
| lbt | lpotter: *g* if you remember the details ... | 19:37 |
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| lpotter | not really. but most web sites need 'activation' | 19:39 |
| lbt | not sure if the meego.com email is screwed up | 19:39 |
| Moulinex | I got "Further instructions have been sent to your e-mail address." | 19:41 |
| Moulinex | 20 mins ago | 19:42 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: I don't suppose you know where the meego.com php app email logs are? | 19:53 |
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| lbt | Moulinex: sorry, looks like some kind of problem on meego.com wrt to sending email | 20:17 |
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| Moulinex | lbt: no problem | 20:24 |
| Moulinex | lbt: i got mer SDK and i'm creating core image for raspb | 20:25 |
| lbt | good stuff | 20:25 |
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| lbt | how does journal start? | 20:32 |
| lbt | it's filling my screen with crap so I want to mask it ... but it seems to be 'special' | 20:32 |
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| vgrade | w00t: having some issues with device so might not get result tonight | 20:39 |
| w00t | vgrade: mmk | 20:39 |
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| vgrade | w00t: build still runs but having connman issues | 20:40 |
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| Stskeeps | evening special | 20:53 |
| special | hey | 20:54 |
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| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: that sounds like a train service | 20:57 |
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| faenil | hey special! how you doing mate | 21:25 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: After fixing _two_ bugs in qemu, my sb2 finally managed to build the first native RPM for x86_64: m4. | 21:28 |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: congratulations :) | 21:29 |
| [ol] | :-) | 21:30 |
| [ol] | Surprisingly, m4 had no BuildRequires. | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | you can probably just --nodeps on a few ones and bootstrap the set | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | acl, attr, etc - you still have my minimal set list? | 21:31 |
| [ol] | And I need it to build autoconf to build libtool to build attr. | 21:31 |
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| [ol] | If you mean the one you've mentioned in this chat, then yes, I have chat log. | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | you can build libtool straight, autoconf comes from tools already | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | as it's on the sdk | 21:32 |
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| Stskeeps | (just ignore deps on it, it should work fine) | 21:33 |
| [ol] | No, libtool build failed. | 21:33 |
| [ol] | ./bootstrap: line 160: autoreconf: command not found | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | make sure autoconf/automake is installed in sdk? | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | with zypper in | 21:33 |
| Stskeeps | if it doesn't include autoreconf that's a bug :) | 21:34 |
| [ol] | It includes. | 21:35 |
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| [ol] | May be, I should specify some mode instead of default une? | 21:35 |
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| Stskeeps | sdk-build should work fine with it, i'd think | 21:36 |
| Stskeeps | bbl sleep | 21:36 |
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| halVIII_ | Stskeeps, it seem's like you know all on everything. Are you a sorcerer? | 21:36 |
| halVIII_ | good night Stskeeps | 21:36 |
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| plfiorini | [ol], are you building a mer sdk for x86_64? | 22:22 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: qemu and project-core updates needs manual reviews in gerrit btw | 23:18 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 23:21 |
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| RzR | Sage, got your messages today, so i expect to have it into upcoming release , thx | 23:22 |
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