Monday, 2012-11-26

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situMorning everyone05:17
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* Stskeeps so looks forward to be killing the need to ctrl-m in yat07:14
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Stskeepsmorn mardy, Sfiet_Konstantin07:16
mardyStskeeps: morning!07:16
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niqthi07:17
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Sfiet_Konstantinhello Stskeeps :)07:17
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mardykontio: FYI, the accounts-sso packages should now be buildable with Qt5 as well, in case you plan to switch to that07:18
Stskeepsthat's good news for me :)07:18
kontiomardy: cool, we will need that in long term for sure...07:19
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* lpotter looses motivation when it's hot07:20
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Stskeepslpotter: how's winter in brisbane? 30 c?07:24
jussihah07:24
sroedalwinter?07:24
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lpotterspring. 32 today. should be 35 by Friday07:26
Stskeepsnot bad07:27
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VDVsxmardy, will accounts-sso be part of ubuntu in the future ? just curiosity :)07:35
mardyVDVsx: it's already there, in 12:10 :-)07:35
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VDVsxmardy, cool, so there's some ui as well ?07:36
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davidqihi all, does anyone know if the mer can be build locally ?07:45
davidqistupid question07:45
davidqiI am really a newbie07:45
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Stskeepsyou can build Mer fully on your own OBS, or make images locally. Mer is a source package distro, so a builder builds source into RPM packages. you then in a seperate operation put those packages into a image07:46
Stskeepsso you can build your own customized images on your own07:47
davidqiis it necessary to get OBS access before that? I mean, ldt and X-Fade seem to be very busy, I want to download all the source codes and build it in my own machine07:48
Stskeepsdavidqi: you don't need to, but you rarely want to build everything on your own07:49
Stskeepsyou can set up an own OBS or use the sdk to build applications on top07:49
kulveare the slush videos somewhere archived? I would like to see one particular (non-jolla) video from the event stage?07:49
Stskeepshaven't seen others around yet07:50
davidqiStskeeps: do you mean, I dont need to apply meego community OBS, right ? can I set up my own OBS?07:51
Stskeepsyes07:53
Stskeepsdavidqi: what do you hope to do practically? build own app, or build own image for your device, etc?07:53
davidqithe later, build own image for my device07:53
Stskeepsthen you don't really need obs access at first07:54
Stskeepsplatform sdk should be enough :)07:54
cybettekulve, Stskeeps: http://new.livestream.com/slushlive07:55
davidqithe platform SDK is enough for building  a mer image?07:55
Stskeepsdavidqi: yes07:55
mardyVDVsx: yep: http://www.iloveubuntu.net/online-accounts-landed-ubuntu-1210-default07:55
davidqiStskeeps: but the source codes are still a must part, right?07:57
Stskeepsdavidqi: nop, Mer produces RPM binary packages you can build image from07:57
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Stskeepsdavidqi: if you want, you can customize those but for most hardware, you don't need to07:57
davidqicould you please send a link or guide on how to set up own OBS ?07:58
Stskeepsdavidqi: i will later, but first, try to follow http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK and see how easy it is to make your own image in that07:58
davidqiand also, a naive question, mer image is just a kernel? or also includes the rootfs?07:59
VDVsxmardy, yep, already found the code, vala now :)07:59
Stskeepsdavidqi: mer core does not include hardware adaptation, you add a kernel that works with your system. so mer gives you a rootfs07:59
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mardyVDVsx: just the UI is vala; and it may be that we'll rewrite that in C08:00
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Stskeepsdavidqi: and you can add hardware adaptation (opengl es drivers, kernel, configuration) etc to that08:00
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VDVsxmardy, in nemo there's still the meego bits with some MTF and qml mixed, looks a bit over-engineered for me atm :)08:02
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Stskeepsew MTF08:03
Stskeeps:P08:03
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VDVsxmardy, if I got the structure correct, the approach in ubuntu looks a bit simpler, you have only the libaccount-plugin and then the control center UI and the plugins08:07
kulvecybette: thanks! I found the presentation from there that I was actually looking for08:07
mardyVDVsx: it's very similar, it's just that where in MeeGo we were spawning the account plugins as separate processes, in Ubuntu they are .so modules08:08
mardyVDVsx: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1MVsDdwzff6LqQ6i3z-cSgg8dHjb5DaHMXFeWtIa6Cvo/edit#08:08
davidqiStskeeps: great information. thanks. until now, which versions of linux kernel could co-operate with latest mer?08:09
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Stskeepsdavidqi: 2.6.37 and up is a good bet08:09
Stskeeps2.6.32 is possible but a bit painful08:09
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davidqigreat, great, I will go to study now, thanks Stskeeps08:10
Stskeepsif there's any questions, feel free to ask at any time here :)08:10
VDVsxmardy, cool, thx08:10
Stskeepsand if documentation is lacking, help fill in our wiki08:10
davidqiwhat do you mean, "help fill in your wiki"?08:11
davidqiyou mean, I can fill ?08:11
Stskeepsyes, as in, help improve08:11
davidqisure, if I can, but I am now a newbie, true newbie08:11
Stskeepshehe, we all start somewhere :)08:11
davidqisee you , really lucky to get your help.08:12
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cybettekulve: anytime :)08:14
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Jucatowhere would I be able to find info to get started on making a hardware adaptation for an android tablet that I think no one else has (or would be interested in porting to). I don't even know where to start. and I'm not a vendor or anything like that, just a newbie with hardware porting, so kinda afraid of wasting your time :/08:14
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Jucato(the tablet is an Arnova 7 G2 http://arnovatech.com/products/g2/arn_7/index.html?country=ph&lang=en )08:15
kulvecybette: I of course did try to find it from there before asking here but somehow managed to convince myself that those were only for live streams :)08:15
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Jucatokulve: because the URL is easily misleading :) thanks for the link as well cybette08:16
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cybetteyeah the URL is misleading. <plug> Jolla-specific videos can be found at http://www.youtube.com/jollaofficial </plug>08:19
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davidqiStskeeps: when I do the "basic tasks" in the platform SDK webpage. I met following error08:27
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davidqimic create: no such option: --pack-to08:28
Stskeepsis this mic done inside the sdk?08:29
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davidqino, the "Basic tasks" section says: Mer images are build using mic image creator08:37
Stskeepsyes, you need to enter the sdk08:37
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davidqihow to enter the sdk? I just run "curl -k -o mer-sdk-i486-vm.ks https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/6.1.0/0.20120920.1/mer-sdk-i486-vm.ks"08:38
Stskeepsdavidqi: the top of the page08:39
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davidqien?08:40
davidqido you mean the "cd $HOME; curl -k -o ......."08:40
Stskeepsyes, and the sdk enter command08:41
davidqiI am not sure which actions should be taken first? the "Basic tasks"? or the top of the page?08:41
Stskeepsthe top of the page, and do the basic tasks inside it08:42
Stskeepsbrb08:42
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niqtStskeeps when will new mer and nemo meeting?08:53
Stskeepsi think we may have bug triage today, if iekku is not busy08:54
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iekkuwhole day in meetings :x08:56
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halVIII_hello, I try to devel for sailfish and/or nemo, I've build mer-qt-creator, but I didn't see anything new. what should I see in qtcreator for nemo ?09:00
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halVIII_qmlcontacts works, but it's very hideous, not like he should be.09:04
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lbthalVIII_: good point - I should make sure you're building the correct branch09:22
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halVIII_lbt,  $ git branch *master09:30
lbtuse the mer branch09:30
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CosmoHillmorning10:01
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lbtmmm we appear to have a "rollingcat" release of Mer:Tools   http://repo.pub.meego.com/releases/Mer-Tools/10:05
Stskeepsrollingcat?10:06
lbtI had the release command typed pre-slush and I guess at some point I started typing 'cat <file>'  with focus set wrong :)10:07
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Stskeepshehe10:08
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lbtfixed now :)10:10
lbtI did wonder why my SDK didn't update10:10
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slaineAll rested after Slush ?10:14
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Bostiknot quite yet10:20
Bostiksingle-dad weekend right after Slush was not the most invigorating combination, to be honest :)10:20
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sledgesgood yawning!10:40
ekegood yawning!10:40
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timophlbt: any plans to do a bit more user friendy setup for creator + virtualbox? I was thinking that it should be quite easy to do a vbox setup script/application with VBoxManage10:43
lbtdone, in git :)10:44
timophah10:44
timophcool10:44
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halVIII_more than 1h30 to compil mer-qt-creator, and even notfinish11:00
lbthalVIII_: yep - you get a *lot* of code in there11:02
lbtbut that does seem a bit long - have you got a multi-core machine? and are you using make -j   ?11:02
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Sage__http://pastie.org/543666311:07
Sage__so how is one supposed to run the tests11:07
timoph-o /tmp/filename.xml11:10
halVIII_lbt, no just make , I try in a fedora17 vbox, in windows7,11:10
timophnot sure if it's supposed to work without specifying the file11:10
* halVIII_ use windows7 only because of fan laptop, on linux fans are so noisy11:11
lbthalVIII_: OK - your VM should have been setup with multi-cpus (assuming you have them)11:11
lbtand then you run : make -j411:11
lbt(assuming 4 cpu/threads)11:12
halVIII_ok, must make clean before ?11:12
halVIII_lbt,11:12
timophSage__: a few lines up ^11:12
lbtno11:12
sampostimoph, Sage__: yes, the output file is mandatory11:14
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mountainHi, I am trying 'zypper update' in Mer SDK, but get error "Error message: Couldn't resolve host 'releases.merproject.org", either with or without proxy set,  what I missed here?11:19
Stskeepscheck your /etc/resolv.conf11:20
Stskeepsyou may need to re-enter the sdk11:20
Sage__timoph: uh... it should say that ;)11:21
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Sage__not by crashing randomly but say that -o needs to be a file :)11:21
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Sage__timoph, sampos: but thanks got it working11:22
Sage__lbt: ping, you are using repomd-pattern-builder with sdk as well right?11:23
halVIII_lbt, uh 'time make -j 4' = user 2m28.975 !  I suppose the  job was done before11:23
Sage__qa people is happy about this probably http://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/repomd-pattern-builder/commit/ec6ad29ad8a19e13e533a622211a9937a452ff6e ;)11:24
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halVIII_ahh maybe the problem is more meegotouch than qtcreator ...11:29
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halVIII_https://github.com/nemomobile  <--- this is the last/good version meegotouch ? this is use by nemo?11:33
Sage__yes11:33
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lbtmountain: chat in here is fine too11:43
mountainthanks, I see :), I also tried mount /parent root manually, but seems not work with /etc/resolv.conf, I will try with 'sdk mount' all over again.11:44
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lbtso : /etc/resolv.conf -> /parentroot//run/resolvconf/resolv.conf11:46
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lbtmountain: inside the SDK does /parentroot/ contain complete entries for the host's /run (and /etc and /bin and so on) ?11:48
mountainnow, I quit sdk and run 'sdk mount' then 'sdk enter' again, it works11:49
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zuhHm, Mer release repos have x86 and MIPS packages. Are those just "because we can" builds or is there some specific hw they are running on?11:49
mountainpreviously I just run 'mount --bind /. /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/parentroot/', and /parentroot/ doesn't contains complete entries in SDK11:50
Stskeepszuh: x86 we use for sdk and x86 vms11:50
lbtzuh: x86 is for VMs and various HW like ExoPC11:50
zuhAh, of course the SDK11:50
Stskeepszuh: MIPS.. well, can't hurt11:50
Stskeeps:P11:50
lbtmountain: are you following the SDK instructions?11:50
zuhHeh11:50
lbthttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK11:50
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Stskeepszuh: the story is that meego had a production ready MIPS port that intel refused to admit to meego11:51
Stskeepszuh: just imagine how the MIPS STB market could look today11:51
mountainpreviously not, now I followed and it works all fine.11:51
Stskeepsand i got a hold of that and put it into mer11:51
lbtmountain: *g* ... always a good idea11:51
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mountainthank you, and sorry for the bothering, I am new...11:51
lbtnp11:52
CosmoHilleverybody was new once11:52
zuhStskeeps: Ah, another sad story in the realm of what could have been. Do they never end? :(11:52
lbtzuh: nah, not sad, look at where we are now :)11:53
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StskeepsMIPS seems really mostly given up on by rest of mainline linux, which is curious11:53
timophwhere mips is actually in use?11:54
Stskeepsa lot of stbs11:54
* timoph hasn't been really following the mips story11:54
timophso the demand for well maintained mips base is there11:55
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timophwould be cool have a mer powered stb11:56
timophbut then again, I don't own a tv :p11:56
Stskeepsi decided it was cheaper to get a big tv with a tuner and not use the tuner11:57
Stskeeps:P11:57
timophactually I lied. I do own a tv. a 9 inch one11:58
timophbought it because it has composite in. I'm using it with my raspi11:58
timopherr. 7 inch11:59
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lbtMer bug triage in #mer-meeting in 1min11:59
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Sage__plundstr_: are we sure we want to limit the environment files dir only to .conf files?12:36
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plundstr_Sage_: I had to come up with something how to take in stuff. We can't take everything. Forexample after editing there is file~ #file#   file.back etc12:37
plundstr_systed seems to have all .conf so it was logical choice12:38
Sage__well, environment files are often also scripts that have #!/bin/sh or similar in the top and some might want to execute them thus pondering the .conf only12:39
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Sage__plundstr_: I can understand the reasoning but still not sure if that is the right way to go.12:40
phaeron_n9Sage__, rather not execute scripts, they are supposed to be mappings12:40
plundstr_Sage_: Ok, not a big deal to change it anything. But /bin/sh  is no, no. Same rules go for these as EnvironmentFile12:41
Sage__I'm mainly pondering all the things I've seen in the /etc/profile.d/ :)12:41
Sage__Well, we can start making it perfect world and accept only .conf sure :)12:42
phaeron_n9Sage__, we dont aim to support that mess :)12:42
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Sage__plundstr_: other than that I'm ok. you should though submit it as git patch format not git diff > file :)12:45
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plundstr_ääh, I used "git diff --patch" for testing it before doing commit, so patch file stayed like that :)12:49
Sage__:P12:50
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sledgesStskeeps, where could I discuss closed source debugging (asking you, as libhybris stems from there). #gdb is silent :)14:12
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Stskeepssledges: cat /proc/PID/maps , strace and sacrificing goats14:56
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sledgesa tip of how to find at which point a closed source library stops reading your passed strucure and error out?14:57
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davidqiStskeeps: I met an error during the "mic create ... " command, it is : Error <creator>: Command 'modprobe' is not available15:06
Stskeepsprefix it with PATH=/sbin:$PATH15:07
sledgeslbt mentioned latest SDK should have had this fixed already :}15:08
Stskeepsyeah, but it doesn't reflect in the tarball yet i think15:08
davidqiit seems I can run "sudo mic create ... " at any directory, is this correct ?15:09
aportaleDoes anyone use the MerSDK-VM under a Windows host, incl. home folder sharing?15:10
davidqiI mean, the command: sudo mic create fs mer-sdk-i486-vm.ks -o . --pkgmgr=yum --arch i486 --pack-to=mer-sdk-i486-vm-latest.tar.bz215:10
davidqiStskeeps: I ever thought, the command should be run at the $HOME directory15:11
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* aportale has issues with MerSDK apparently not considering the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, therefore cannot ssh to Mer with key.15:11
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lbtdavidqi: you sorted for OBS access?15:18
lbtaportale: hmm15:18
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lbtaportale: we'd need to run the sshd on the console with -d15:19
aportalelbt: on the client/host?15:20
lbtin the client/guest15:20
lbtI'll look at debug instructions - you'd need to stop the sshd.socket in systemd15:21
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lbtand then run it as root15:21
aportalelbt: Hmmm. Why was I then able to ssh into MerSDK-VM with a Linux-Host?15:23
lbtyeah15:23
aportalelbt: I am able to ssh in via password15:23
lbtdavidqi: you should be able to run :  sudo sdk-setup --core latest --sdk next15:24
lbtthen follow instructions15:24
lbtaportale: so you say ssh isn't considering them - so I was going to look at the sshd output - plus I don't know what's happening windows-side :)15:25
Stskeepsi'm willing to bet it's permissiosn related15:25
lbtme too15:26
aportalelbt: ah, Ok. The file permissions of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys are -rwxrwxrwx mersdk:mersdk15:26
lbtyep15:27
lbtand sshd doesn't like that :)15:27
lbtbut I thought it'd be the same using shared folder in a linux host15:27
lbtso apparently shared folders on linux keep the permissions15:29
lbtaportale: can you set the perms of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys *on windows* to be "only user has write"15:29
aportalelbt: Seems so. And chmodding from the VM does not have any effect on Windows Host15:30
aportalelbt: I tried with chmod 644. No effect15:30
lbtyeah - do it windows side15:30
Stskeepslbt: fairly sure that's not going to work :P15:30
lbtme too15:31
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aportalelbt, Stskeeps: Setting the file read-only Windows-side gives me a -r-xr-xr-x15:31
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yuntadoes mer work with samsung galaxy tab 2 ?15:32
lbtaportale: that may help15:32
aportalelbt, Stskeeps: Does not seem to work, either. I'll look if Windows has more fine-grained permission handling15:33
lbtit does - the mapping is the isse15:33
lbtu15:33
aportalelbt: Is that mapping done by the guest additions?15:33
lbtyes - and possibly the mount command15:34
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lbtOK - so... we can try tweaking the mount command15:35
lbtaportale: login as root and run :  umount /home/mersdk15:36
lbtthen15:36
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lbtmount -tvboxsf -o"rw,exec,uid=1001,gid=1001,dev,fmode=755,dmode=755"  home /home/mersdk15:37
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aportalelbt: no unmount command in the SDK :) Any idea what to zypper in?15:43
lbtumount - no 'n'15:43
lbtand it needs to be root/sudo15:43
* aportale noob15:43
aportalelbt: it works!!1! :D15:46
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lbtcool - and that's a reasonable default too15:46
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davidqilbt: I just applied the access to meego community OBS,16:04
davidqi12 hours ago16:04
davidqiwould you please help to speed the progress, thanks.16:05
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lbtdavidqi: yep - need your meego username16:13
lbtsame as nick - done - have fun :)16:14
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davidqilbt: you mean, you have added the access for me, right? btw, my meego account name is "sdqifeng"16:28
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lbtI added access rights for the user davidqi ...16:30
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lbtI think you registered twice :)16:31
davidqiyes16:31
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davidqia mistake16:32
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lbtOK - both are enabled now :)16:32
davidqibut I can not remember the davidqi's email16:32
lbthave twice as much fun!16:32
davidqithanks a lot16:32
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halVIII_obs nemo is same then obsmeego ?16:38
halVIII_account I mean16:39
lbtNemo currently uses the MeeGo OBS, yes16:40
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halVIII_I didn't remember my password, I was https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Aniala16:42
lbtthere's a pw reset on meego.com16:43
lbtso if you do that then it'll reset on the obs too16:43
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halVIII_ok  passwd reset, I just must wait a few hour or minutes for the mail. :)16:45
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lbtminutes I think - hope it still works :)16:50
lbtbbiab16:50
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halVIII_maybe an Elop's restriction ^^16:54
halVIII_waouh 22 months ago last commit for meego .. long time ago16:56
halVIII_in a far away galaxy...16:56
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shmerlHi!17:02
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Stskeepsm0017:02
shmerlIs there some documentation on sb2 how to set up rules for it to handle when to run qemu and when not?17:02
Stskeepsthe modes17:02
shmerlFor example when compiling Firefox, it uses g++ but it also uses python a lot.17:03
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shmerlRunning python through qemu is pointless there.17:03
shmerl(it only slows things down)17:03
Stskeepsit does make sense for correctness though17:03
Stskeepsbecause if we gave it a host python, it wouldn't have same modules17:04
Stskeepsas the target17:04
shmerlI guess, if we expect python to have differences across archs17:04
shmerlAh, I see.17:04
shmerlI.e. target python can have different modules?17:04
Stskeepsyes17:04
Stskeepsscratchbox1 had this issue17:04
Stskeepsmade porting a pita17:05
shmerlMakes sense.17:05
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KaIRCin terms of Firefox, the created binaries etc. do not depend on python, though, it's only the build process that uses python scripts for a number of tasks, so in that case it should not matter which python you're using there17:19
shmerlThat's what I thought as well.17:20
shmerlBut consistency does makes sense, if host and target pythons differ for some rason.17:20
shmerlI.e. even for the build process.17:20
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Stskeepsi've considered to make it a little more flexible17:20
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shmerlIn terms of build time - using host python can speed things up noticeably17:21
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shmerlI wonder if it's possible to set up some automated Mozilla build with Mer SDK so it'll show when it breaks, when someone commits some wrong stuff.17:27
shmerlThere are a bunch of "tinderboxes" for different OSes arleady.17:28
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halVIII_lbt, oh sorry I forget to say thank you to you for telling me the good branch for mer-qt-creato.git :)18:20
lbtnp - working?18:20
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halVIII_yes 'mer' is present in 'options' and qmlcontact look nice18:21
halVIII_now setup target18:22
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Bostikrrrrright...18:43
Bostikmake[2]: Entering directory `/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/qt5-qtwebkit/Source/JavaScriptCore'18:43
Bostikmake[2]: ruby: Command not found18:43
Bostikhere we go again18:43
Stskeepsoh dear god18:45
Stskeepswhat are those guys smoking?18:45
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ftonelloanyone interested in a positions (middleware/qt/kernel) for linux engineer in california? more information please, pvt18:46
Sfiet_Konstantinso, for webkit you need python perl (?) and ruby ?18:47
Sfiet_Konstantin:O18:47
shmerlGecko also builds with Python involved.18:48
shmerlI wouldn't be surprised.18:48
Sfiet_KonstantinI can understand for python18:48
Sfiet_Konstantinalright18:48
shmerlWell, if Python, then why not Ruby.18:49
shmerlIt's not any worse.18:49
Sfiet_Konstantinbut don't tell me that you NEED ruby, because ruby is something special18:49
shmerlSpecial in what sense? It's a general purpose language.18:49
Sfiet_Konstantinone dep to a general purpose language and interpreter is enough18:49
Sfiet_Konstantindon't involve two or three of them18:49
shmerlWell, yeah, to use both sounds redundant.18:49
Sfiet_Konstantinand Qt uses perl18:50
Sfiet_Konstantin...18:50
Sfiet_Konstantinso for QtWebkit you might (not sure) to use 3 of them ...18:50
Stskeepswhen you should clean up your office: when you find your fosdem 2011 talk18:50
Sfiet_Konstantinsoon, you will need java to build webkit, you will see18:50
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: :)18:50
shmerlHehe. May be Erlang too.18:50
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah, why not actually ?18:51
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Sfiet_KonstantinHello Venemo_N918:58
Venemo_N9hey Sfiet_Konstantin18:59
Sfiet_KonstantinBostik: are you trying to build QtWebkit from Git ?18:59
Stskeepsevening Venemo_N918:59
Sfiet_KonstantinBostik: I'm trying to get it built on a Debian box, but it fails ...18:59
Venemo_N9hey Stskeeps18:59
Venemo_N9:)18:59
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Stskeepshello teroa :)19:02
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BostikSfiet_Konstantin: qt5-beta2, and yes19:15
Sfiet_Konstantinok beta219:15
BostikStskeeps: whatever it is, it must be inherently toxic and highly corruptive19:15
Sfiet_Konstantini'm always trying the latest git19:16
Bostik"nothing provides ruby" ... figures19:16
lbtBostik: OMG19:17
lbtI guess for testing?19:17
lbtMer has got ruby in Mer:Tools19:17
Bostiklbt: I'll see what exactly needs it and see if I can just drop the entire requirement19:17
Bostikbecause this is insanity19:18
Bostikhmm... might be llint only...19:18
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Bostikseems to be upstream change, and ruby is "only" needed for something called "offlineasm"19:20
lbtI would not be surprised to see ruby in Core one day - but if we split out the 'toolchain' parts then it makes sense to consider ruby as part of the 'make test'19:20
Bostikmy guess is that's the "not-quite-jit" macro assembly system used to kickstart bytecode generation19:20
lbtsounds like it19:22
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Stskeepsmorn19:33
iekkulpotter, o/19:33
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lpotterits not really a motion gesture. just looks for highest rssi over a certain level and blindly sends19:35
lpotterobvious19:35
lpotter\o anyway :)19:36
lbto/19:36
lbtwho has recently (weeks-ish) registered on meego.com ?19:36
lbtand did you a) get an email b) need it to login ?19:37
lpotteris recently a few years ago by chance? :)19:37
lbtMoulinex: just checking19:37
lbtlpotter: *g* if you remember the details ...19:37
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lpotternot really. but most web sites need 'activation'19:39
lbtnot sure if the meego.com email is screwed up19:39
MoulinexI got "Further instructions have been sent to your e-mail address."19:41
Moulinex20 mins ago19:42
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lbtX-Fade: I don't suppose you know where the meego.com php app email logs are?19:53
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lbtMoulinex: sorry, looks like some kind of problem on meego.com wrt to sending email20:17
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Moulinexlbt: no problem20:24
Moulinexlbt: i got mer SDK and i'm creating core image for raspb20:25
lbtgood stuff20:25
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lbthow does journal start?20:32
lbtit's filling my screen with crap so I want to mask it ... but it seems to be 'special'20:32
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vgradew00t: having some issues with device so might not get result tonight20:39
w00tvgrade: mmk20:39
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vgradew00t: build still runs but having connman issues20:40
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Stskeepsevening special20:53
specialhey20:54
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CosmoHillStskeeps: that sounds like a train service20:57
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faenilhey special! how you doing mate21:25
[ol]Stskeeps: After fixing _two_ bugs in qemu, my sb2 finally managed to build the first native RPM for x86_64: m4.21:28
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Stskeeps[ol]: congratulations :)21:29
[ol]:-)21:30
[ol]Surprisingly, m4 had no BuildRequires.21:30
Stskeepsyou can probably just --nodeps on a few ones and bootstrap the set21:30
Stskeepsacl, attr, etc - you still have my minimal set list?21:31
[ol]And I need it to build autoconf to build libtool to build attr.21:31
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[ol]If you mean the one you've mentioned in this chat, then yes, I have chat log.21:32
Stskeepsyou can build libtool straight, autoconf comes from tools already21:32
Stskeepsas it's on the sdk21:32
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Stskeeps(just ignore deps on it, it should work fine)21:33
[ol]No, libtool build failed.21:33
[ol]./bootstrap: line 160: autoreconf: command not found21:33
Stskeepsmake sure autoconf/automake is installed in sdk?21:33
Stskeepswith zypper in21:33
Stskeepsif it doesn't include autoreconf that's a bug :)21:34
[ol]It includes.21:35
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[ol]May be, I should specify some mode instead of default une?21:35
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Stskeepssdk-build should work fine with it, i'd think21:36
Stskeepsbbl sleep21:36
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halVIII_Stskeeps, it seem's like you know all on everything. Are you a sorcerer?21:36
halVIII_good night Stskeeps21:36
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plfiorini[ol], are you building a mer sdk for x86_64?22:22
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SageStskeeps: qemu and project-core updates needs manual reviews in gerrit btw23:18
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CosmoHillnight night23:21
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RzRSage, got your messages today, so i expect to have it into upcoming release , thx23:22
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