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| rafase282 | Hello | 00:13 |
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| sonach | morning | 00:23 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 00:23 |
| rafase282 | Night time here. =] | 00:24 |
| sonach | : ) | 00:24 |
| CosmoHill | Thu Nov 22 00:24:28 GMT 2012 | 00:24 |
| rafase282 | Happy Thanksgiving to you then from the past. | 00:25 |
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| rafase282 | So for Jolla Salifish talk is here? | 00:26 |
| sonach | rafase282: it should be in #jollamobile | 00:27 |
| rafase282 | ah okay thanks | 00:27 |
| rafase282 | It says for core level to join here. I actually want to know if I could compile it for the LG P999 phone. | 00:28 |
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| wmarone | rafase282: what CPU does that device have? | 00:31 |
| rafase282 | nvidia tegra 2 | 00:32 |
| rafase282 | armv7 rev0 (v7I) | 00:32 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 00:51 |
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| rafase282 | Sleep well | 00:57 |
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| hanmaokun | Hi, anyone have experience running Mer on BeagleBoard? | 01:23 |
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| [ol] | hanmaokun: Everybody's sleeping. Please wait for daytime in Europe. | 01:30 |
| wmarone | sorta :) | 01:31 |
| wmarone | hanmaokun: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_the_Beagle | 01:31 |
| wmarone | meego references can be used with Mer for a great many things | 01:31 |
| [ol] | OK, not everybody's sleeping then. :-) | 01:31 |
| plux | Nope, but I kind of should. :-) It's 2.30 in the morning here. :P | 01:32 |
| SouL_ | I can install Mer on a computer? | 01:33 |
| [ol] | And 1:32 here. | 01:33 |
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| wmarone | SouL_: there are builds for Atom + Intel IGP based systems | 01:33 |
| wmarone | doesn't do much though ;) | 01:33 |
| [ol] | I'm trying to port Mer to x86_64. | 01:33 |
| SouL_ | I can try it with a Virtual Machine? | 01:33 |
| [ol] | I want it to run on my netbook. | 01:34 |
| wmarone | SouL_: believe there are virtual box images | 01:34 |
| wmarone | [ol]: trying to do a full x86_64 build? | 01:34 |
| SouL_ | Where? | 01:34 |
| [ol] | wmarone: Yes. | 01:34 |
| wmarone | [ol]: cool | 01:34 |
| wmarone | I didn't look into it too much when I experimented with the Iconia W500 | 01:34 |
| [ol] | So far I succeeded cross-building gcc and glibc. | 01:35 |
| plux | [ol]: Nice :) | 01:35 |
| [ol] | Any ideas how to cross-build RPMs using newly built cross-compiler? | 01:37 |
| SouL_ | Where I can download Mer for try it in a VirtualBox machine? | 01:37 |
| wmarone | looking ;) | 01:37 |
| wmarone | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1/images/nemo-handset-i586-vm/ | 01:37 |
| wmarone | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20121101.1.NEMO.2012-11-08.1/images/nemo-handset-i586/ if you want to put it on hardware | 01:38 |
| hanmaokun | Thanks, wmarone. | 01:39 |
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| [ol] | There is also Plasma Active live image for x86 PC you can boot from USB stick and then install to your harddrive. However, it didn't support my netbook's brcmsmac WiFi card. | 01:39 |
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| SouL_ | Thank you wmarone!!!!!! | 01:39 |
| wmarone | that too | 01:39 |
| [ol] | SouL_: http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Installation#Install_Plasma_Active_on_x86_Systems | 01:40 |
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| [ol] | If you're lucky to have supported hardware, you get Mer with Plasma Active UI, which is very nice. | 01:41 |
| SouL_ | Ok, thanks! | 01:42 |
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| situ | Morning all | 05:32 |
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| dm8tbr | good moaning | 06:22 |
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| lbt_ | morning | 07:12 |
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| boom | just waiting for SDK release | 07:37 |
| boom | :) | 07:37 |
| lbt_ | hehe | 07:37 |
| lbt_ | no 'release' ... just talk | 07:38 |
| lbt_ | the source is already there | 07:38 |
| lbt_ | Mer doesn't do big reveals :) | 07:38 |
| boom | ohh!! good but Sailfish wiki showing status 'coming soon' for SDK.. how come? i think m confused! | 07:39 |
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| koala_ | hello Stskeeps | 07:46 |
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| Stskeeps | hi koala_, i'm at our product launch so not much around | 07:51 |
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| * timoph hopes the feeling of being an outsider goes away after these announcements | 07:55 | |
| Stskeeps | timoph, your work makes a good part of what was shown, too | 07:56 |
| Stskeeps | timoph: but yeah, some things should be easier | 07:57 |
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| timoph | yep. I'm hoping so | 07:58 |
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| timoph | too bad I couldn't attend slush. This thing called work keeps interfering with hobbies :) | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 08:00 |
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| timoph | lbt_away: where's your mer shirt? | 08:07 |
| Stskeeps | we are in corporate mode today.. i'm wearing mer tshirt | 08:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:08 |
| timoph | :D | 08:08 |
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| E-P | :D | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | i am ze welcome bot | 08:11 |
| kulve | Stskeeps, the bot | 08:11 |
| timoph | "welcome bot Stskeeps" x) | 08:11 |
| stephg | ha | 08:11 |
| E-P | heh | 08:11 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps: oh, so you almost have no time to response to a simple question about new update of libhybris(offscreen)? | 08:11 |
| stephg | also hello everyone, I've not been here for ages (my bad) | 08:11 |
| timoph | I knew it. there's no way you're human, Stskeeps :p | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: offscreen isn't yet stable for me | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | stephg: welcome back :) | 08:12 |
| timoph | and there goes the live stream for me :( | 08:13 |
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| * timoph is on 3g | 08:14 | |
| E-P | there was some problems with the stream | 08:15 |
| stephg | Stskeeps thanks, I may have been away but I've been watching (and I still have a n900 and an n9 in my pocket!) | 08:15 |
| E-P | should work now again | 08:15 |
| timoph | yeah | 08:15 |
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| Jucato | (hopefully not both in the same pocket. awkward bulge.) | 08:20 |
| stephg | no Jucato, I'm just pleased to see you ;) | 08:21 |
| Jucato | hehe | 08:21 |
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| koala_ | Stskeeps: ok.. could you please briefly let me know the purpose of the new feature? the new feature is for using onscreen and offscreen at the same time? libhybris can get multiple instances? | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: yes, multiple processes | 08:25 |
| Jucato | um .. anyone has a link to that stream btw? my sister isn't home so I think my internet connection can handle streaming :D | 08:26 |
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| Nicd- | the jolla sdk stream? http://slush.fi/stream/?view=event-stage#a | 08:26 |
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| timoph | Nicd-: yep. that's it | 08:28 |
| Jucato | thanks | 08:28 |
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| koala_ | Stskeeps: it's impressive. in other words, multiple egl client can use libhybris at the sametime? right? | 08:31 |
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| Stskeeps | yes and share gpu buffers, wayland like | 08:32 |
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| koala_ | Stskeeps; it's amazing.. do you think it's too unstable to try to use and test it for me? | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | need stabilization, not entirely sane yet | 08:35 |
| Stskeeps | i will spend more time on it | 08:35 |
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| pavi | i just built the mer qt creator , will the new SDK be on top of it ? | 08:36 |
| pavi | or should I build it again? | 08:36 |
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| timoph | too bad one can't see the actual application from the stream :/ | 08:39 |
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| Stskeeps | there should be better recordings later | 08:40 |
| timoph | good | 08:40 |
| timoph | well. I can always try it myself after I get home :) | 08:41 |
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| timoph | hmmh. I'm a bit confused. Is the sdk a ready made virtualbox image or something that you install to an existing virtual machine? | 08:44 |
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| koala_ | Stskeeps: you mean that it works sometimes and doesn't work at other times? or do you recommend to wait a while? how about trying to use it with current version and deal with it until stable version is released? | 08:48 |
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| Stskeeps | koala_: for this feature it's under development | 08:48 |
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| koala_ | stskeeps: ok. I see. I know you are so so busy, but could you let me share the schedule about offscreen feature if you have it on your mind now roughly? | 08:51 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully next two weeks should make it more stable | 08:52 |
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| koala_ | stskeeps: I see.. thank you so much.. | 09:10 |
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| E-P | lbt_away and folks: pretty nice demo and show you had! | 09:16 |
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| eijk | Hi! Is this the right channel to post suggestions on the sailfish.org wiki? | 09:31 |
| eijk | sailfishos.org | 09:31 |
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| Sage_ | eijk: You should go to #jollamobile instead for sailfish.org stuff. Mer project wiki is at http://wiki.merproject.org/ | 09:36 |
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| eijk | Sage_: Ok, it's about https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox not being linked to from anywhere. In particular not from the sailfishos.org wiki which mentions the page without link. | 09:37 |
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| timoph | let me check that I understood qt-creator with mer sdk correctly. So basically one has creator in the host machince which talks to the tool chain inside a vm through ssh | 09:47 |
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| pen9u1n | or via some adb like tool? | 09:48 |
| timoph | if I understood that correctly it should work with osx and windows in addition to linux | 09:48 |
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| phaeron | timoph: that sounds close afaiu | 09:49 |
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| timoph | I'll try to get it running on osx. At least I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work | 09:51 |
| timoph | (after I manage to escape from work today) | 09:51 |
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| Bostik | timoph: correct, qtc invokes ssh with ceetain arguments, and those arguments are then executed inside vm; mostly it just runs a script, which then wraps the actual rpmbuild invocation, and when script finishes, we either have a build error in stderr or a .rpm package waiting and ready | 11:49 |
| Bostik | it really is quite simple from a technological point of view | 11:50 |
| Bostik | but then again, most interesting or powerful things are | 11:50 |
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| Dynamit | Any one here that know how it's with future of Skype, e-mail in Nemo? | 11:54 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | Skype in Nemo, not possible i think | 11:58 |
| Dynamit | Why would it be possible? | 11:59 |
| phako | well you can launch the desktop client in a x86 qemu on device ;) | 11:59 |
| Dynamit | It sucks that Nokia have discontinue Maemo | 12:00 |
| phako | meh, now I want to try that. | 12:00 |
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| Dynamit | and what in the hole dam world change to Win Phone as OS? I don't see any logical in that | 12:01 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | Closed binaries | 12:02 |
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| Dynamit | It cost Nokia money to have the right to have license to install Windows Phone as OS in the phone, they need to get many okey from Microsoft Corp. and more in my eyes it just take more time and cost more money then keep Maemo. | 12:03 |
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| phako | oh, another one trying to understand corporate decisions by applying logic. | 12:04 |
| phako | that won't work. | 12:04 |
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| jwalck | phako: try putting on a suit for a few days, and hang around other suits in say an airport lounge. might be the fastest way to get said understanding:) | 12:05 |
| phako | jwalck: agree. | 12:06 |
| phako | maybe hotel bars as well | 12:06 |
| jwalck | yeah depending on where you live that could do just as well, and more accessible | 12:06 |
| Dynamit | what have that two thing any thing to-do with each other? | 12:06 |
| phako | a lot. | 12:07 |
| Dynamit | What is the content if I will be allowed to ask, | 12:07 |
| jwalck | I don't fully understand the question, which two things? | 12:07 |
| jwalck | maemo being dropped and suits doing things only suits understand is closely related | 12:08 |
| Dynamit | Now I maybe get and understand the content | 12:09 |
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| Dynamit | thank you for try explaining the content of the comparisons. | 12:12 |
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| Stskeeps | afternoon | 12:33 |
| CosmoHill | hello master | 12:33 |
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| Stskeeps | hello boss14420 | 12:43 |
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| faenil_n950_ | afternoon | 12:44 |
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| * Stskeeps wants to sleep on the office desk | 12:44 | |
| faenil_n950_ | noticed that :p | 12:45 |
| CosmoHill | or, you could head over to the coffee machine and grap a cup | 12:45 |
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| mikhas | jwalck, phako: didn't you forget to mention golf? | 12:52 |
| phako | mikhas: oh, right | 12:52 |
| jwalck | mikhas: doh! thanks for the reminder | 12:54 |
| jwalck | I really need to train if I'm to become a suit one day. So much to learn! | 12:54 |
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| mikhas | jwalck, hardest part is to choose the suit | 12:54 |
| mikhas | it needs to look & feel *exactly* the same way as theirs, otherwise they won't let you join their ranks | 12:55 |
| jwalck | oh yes there is no more homogenous environment than this. | 12:55 |
| CosmoHill | why does that remind me of American Sico | 12:55 |
| jwalck | I mean geeky t-shirts are allowed to differ, as long as they stay on topic | 12:56 |
| mikhas | CosmoHill, American Psycho is required read in any self-respecting MBA school. | 12:57 |
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| mikhas | *readinngg | 12:57 |
| mikhas | man | 12:57 |
| CosmoHill | woman | 12:57 |
| mikhas | it's my keyboard … I need a new one or change batteries, again | 12:58 |
| CosmoHill | wired ftw | 12:58 |
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| Siraj_ | Hi All! | 13:02 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 13:02 |
| Siraj_ | What's happening here ;-D ? | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | Siraj_: not much, many of us are relaxing | 13:04 |
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| Siraj_ | Aha Jolla SDK coming out today ? | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | you'd have to check their sites for that | 13:06 |
| Stskeeps | we develop mer here :) | 13:06 |
| Siraj_ | I have tried Mer early release. | 13:07 |
| Siraj_ | didn't try the new build yet. | 13:07 |
| Siraj_ | Any major UI overhaul ? | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | mer doesn't have ui ;) it's a core | 13:07 |
| Siraj_ | Oops I mean Nemo ;) | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | nemo has gotten new ui recently | 13:08 |
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| tralamazza | anyone running mer on a n9? good driver support? | 13:15 |
| Bostik | that is now becoming a FAQ item, really... | 13:16 |
| Bostik | the entire n9* series is a bit problematic, as the hw adaptation is ... tricky and wrought with redistribution/licensings landmines | 13:17 |
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| auri__ | lbt_away: how do things look? | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | sdk session went excellent | 13:19 |
| mikhas | is there a video? | 13:19 |
| auri__ | great :) | 13:19 |
| auri__ | Did you use the latest one ? | 13:19 |
| Bostik | demo effect hit, but again it was due to venue staff and their HW acting up :) | 13:20 |
| auri__ | or an older build? | 13:20 |
| Stskeeps | something that looked beautiful and worked | 13:20 |
| auri__ | :) dont they all .. | 13:20 |
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| auri__ | so I was looking into debugging.. | 13:21 |
| auri__ | need to discuss that.. | 13:21 |
| auri__ | my first option would be to have a cross compiled gdb | 13:21 |
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| Stskeeps | well, where would you like to have it? | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | on the host, or on sdk vm? | 13:24 |
| Bostik | auri__: I sat next to a VC guy during the sdk demo, and he was pretty impressed with the "write code, push button: build, deploy, run on device" workflow | 13:25 |
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| Bostik | for someone non-technical that was a big leap | 13:26 |
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| auri__ | Bostik: nice.. :) .. altho I would like to make the whole thing a bit more robust.. | 13:27 |
| auri__ | next iteration.. | 13:27 |
| auri__ | Stskeeps: on the host .. the server runs in the VM or device | 13:28 |
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| Bostik | auri__: you're welcome to congtribute :D | 13:28 |
| mikhas | Bostik, Qt Creator and its nice (but fairly undocument/unstable) plugin architecture does not get enough credit. | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: ok | 13:28 |
| wfire | I love QtCreator | 13:29 |
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| wfire | just saying | 13:29 |
| auri__ | Bostik: In my defence, I already did.. else the VC guy wouldnt have been impressed ;) | 13:30 |
| Bostik | mikhas: I copnfess I haven't looked at QtC plugins code in almost three years, but I trust it has improved since that time | 13:30 |
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| Bostik | it was quite hairy in the beginning ;) | 13:30 |
| mikhas | Hence why I said architecture. | 13:31 |
| * Bostik bows to auri | 13:31 | |
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| MFaro-Tusino | if we can get the VM image from Sailfish SDK (which will most likely be x86 or x64) could we use the sailfish ui components from that, and build it on top of the mer+nemo adaptation for N9/50 that already exists? | 13:32 |
| mikhas | auri__, you could have shocked the VC by saying "and this is not web stuff, this is good old C++" | 13:32 |
| mikhas | the VC might have died right there | 13:32 |
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| auri__ | lol :) | 13:32 |
| auri__ | I thought the whole world is going the JAVA way or HTML5.. poor good old C++ | 13:33 |
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| mikhas | at least in Berlin, if you want to initiate a stampede just go to a startup meeting and tell them you use C++ | 13:34 |
| auri__ | ya, I agree.. I feel "old school" here in Berlin | 13:35 |
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| mikhas | let's have a beer some time, then we can share the old-ness feeling and feel half as old! | 13:35 |
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| * Bostik hugs -std=c99 compiler option | 13:36 | |
| auri__ | sure.. check up Qt meetups http://www.meetup.com/QtEverywhere/Berlin/ | 13:36 |
| lbt_ | o/ | 13:36 |
| lbt_ | hey auri__ | 13:36 |
| Bostik | there is only so much pian a head can take befoe caving in, and C++ is pushing it for me quite often... | 13:37 |
| auri__ | hey.. just heard from Bostik that everyhting went well | 13:37 |
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| mikhas | auri__, nothing new planned yet | 13:39 |
| mikhas | last time it didn't really work because location got chosen too late | 13:39 |
| lbt_ | auri__: define "well" :) | 13:39 |
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| lbt_ | sleep at 3am night before... up at 7:30 to check video setup... all fine | 13:39 |
| auri__ | apparantly you got some VC excited .. well that surely sounds as in the "well" category | 13:39 |
| lbt_ | get to presentation .... no VGA output | 13:40 |
| auri__ | ah, darn! | 13:40 |
| LoCusF | you forgot to sacrifice the goat :) | 13:40 |
| lbt_ | yeah - but we covered it *G* | 13:40 |
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| mikhas | lbt_it's only a VC conference, now imagine this had happened at a Meego meetup =p | 13:40 |
| lbt_ | and VCs get excited so easily - sadly they take a bit more to sign :D | 13:40 |
| lbt_ | mikhas: oh yeah | 13:40 |
| mikhas | lbt_, when they get excited hold a contract & pen under their nose and promise they will feel much better right after they sign | 13:41 |
| auri__ | mikhas: well sounds like we should plan the next one soon then .. | 13:41 |
| mikhas | "we take care of your money, promised!" | 13:41 |
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| lbt_ | mikhas: sounds like an approach | 13:42 |
| auri__ | lbt_: you have found your marketing guy | 13:42 |
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| lbt_ | :) | 13:42 |
| mikhas | I shouldn't make fun of this. I can imagine this is all hard work for you, especially with that audience. | 13:42 |
| auri__ | do you have video of the presentation? | 13:43 |
| lbt_ | auri__: I don't have the url... sec | 13:43 |
| mikhas | auri__, I blame mad men | 13:43 |
| auri__ | :) haha | 13:43 |
| lbt_ | auri__: poll on http://www.youtube.com/jollaofficial | 13:44 |
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| auri__ | thanks | 13:44 |
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| Siraj_ | Hope it has a developer Mode toggle as N9 ^_^ | 13:49 |
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| lbt_ | Siraj_: device stuff is more in #jollamobile | 13:59 |
| Siraj_ | lbt it was a typo. It was actually meant for #jollamobile room . | 14:00 |
| lbt_ | really np :) | 14:02 |
| Siraj_ | (ᵔᴥᵔ) | 14:03 |
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| jfr_SK_Laptop | Siraj_ have a whole set of these cute pictures :) | 14:09 |
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| Siraj_ | Bye everyone | 14:12 |
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| phaeron | tanuk: hey :) | 14:20 |
| tanuk | phaeron: Hi! | 14:21 |
| phaeron | tanuk: how are you doing :) | 14:21 |
| tanuk | phaeron: Quite fine, thanks :) | 14:23 |
| sandst1 | tanuk: \o long time, no see :) | 14:24 |
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| tanuk | sandst1: Hi there :) How are you doing? | 14:25 |
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| sandst1 | tanuk: fine thanks :) congrats for the job switch! :) | 14:28 |
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| jfr_SK_Laptop | faenil_n950_: ping ? | 14:29 |
| tanuk | sandst1: Thanks, that job switch didn't end up being as great as hoped, though. I'm currently not employed. This is maybe not the right place to discuss that, though :) | 14:30 |
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| sandst1 | tanuk: ah, i'm sorry to hear that :( | 14:31 |
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| Khertan_n130 | Congrats to the mer team, u ll get now a wider audience :) | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 14:45 |
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| Khertan_n130 | i remember the days where mer was maemo reconstruted running on my n800 | 14:48 |
| Khertan_n130 | :) | 14:48 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi to all | 15:58 |
| Stskeeps | heya | 15:58 |
| iekku | ahoy | 15:58 |
| sledges | :) | 15:59 |
| dr_gogeta86 | which requirment I need to setup a mer build environment | 15:59 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 15:59 |
| Stskeeps | linux machine, can be virtual, 2.6.32 or higher | 15:59 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I got it | 16:00 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I usually have xp with openembedded | 16:00 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: there ? | 18:03 |
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| faenil | spoiler: he's sleeping :D | 18:05 |
| faenil | jk | 18:05 |
| crevetor | Yeah, that can't be. He doesn't sleep | 18:05 |
| faenil | right | 18:06 |
| Bostik | that has been probably ~correct for the past few weeks, but now he's catching up | 18:06 |
| crevetor | So he'll be sleeping for the next few days I gues | 18:07 |
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| crevetor | Watching the UI hands on session | 18:08 |
| crevetor | drooling | 18:08 |
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| faenil | I have created the channel #wewantsailfish for people who want to port sailfish on N950/N9...feel free to join! :) | 18:16 |
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| * situ is watching the UI session finally | 18:28 | |
| CosmoHill | link? | 18:29 |
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| situ | CosmoHill: http://www.jolla.com/ | 18:51 |
| CosmoHill | is it live? | 18:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | live ???? | 18:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the live is finished > 1 day ago | 18:54 |
| situ | No, it was recorded yesterday. | 18:54 |
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| crevetor | faenil: "port" as I don't think it needs porting, it's already running on the N950 if you look at the initial presentation | 18:59 |
| faenil | crevetor, yeah except we don't have those files | 19:00 |
| CosmoHill | ooo | 19:00 |
| CosmoHill | jolla is pretty | 19:00 |
| crevetor | faenil: I know, it's just that it wouldn't be a port... | 19:01 |
| faenil | crevetor, well you know, I just want to run it, I don't care about if it's a technical port, or a packaging port :P | 19:01 |
| crevetor | faenil: :) same here | 19:02 |
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| crevetor | Give me a package already ! | 19:02 |
| faenil | hahah | 19:03 |
| rZr | https://launchpad.net/~rzr/+archive/ppa/+build/4003602/+files/mer-qt-creator_0.0.0-0~rzr6_amd64.deb | 19:03 |
| rZr | as requested :) | 19:03 |
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| faenil | rZr, do you have the MerSDK icon on the left? | 19:05 |
| VDVsx | want you guys want to port anyway, just out of curiosity ? mer runs on n9 and everything is open isn't ? | 19:09 |
| crevetor | VDVsx: We don't want to port anything we juste want the Sailfish UX | 19:10 |
| crevetor | at least that's what I want :) | 19:10 |
| VDVsx | crevetor, ok, so not porting needed I guess :) | 19:11 |
| VDVsx | no* | 19:11 |
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| crevetor | VDVsx: nope, just the packages | 19:12 |
| crevetor | or the source | 19:12 |
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| Praveen | Hello all | 19:18 |
| CosmoHill | hello | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | hello Praveen | 19:18 |
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| CosmoHill | Stskeeps: you scared him off | 19:20 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: Hi again! Finally, I've succeeded cross-building gcc and eglibc for x86_64. Do you have any suggestions how to cross-build RPMs for target platform? | 19:24 |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: congrats :) yes, now you'd want to rpm2cpio *.rpm | cpio -idv into a sysroot dir and sb2-init like you do in https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 | 19:25 |
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| Stskeeps | in that dir | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | and try to rpmbuild for example acl there | 19:26 |
| * lbt_ runs away | 19:26 | |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: What packages content should I put there? | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: probably the libgcc and eglibc content for now, kernel-headers | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | +devel/headers | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | that's something they can build against | 19:28 |
| [ol] | You mean, copy contents of /opt/cross/x86_64-meego-linux-gnu/sys-root into /parentroot/srv/mer/targets ? | 19:28 |
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| Stskeeps | well, or just re-use sys-root/ | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | either one works | 19:28 |
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| Stskeeps | and sb2-init in that, you have the cross compiler, so | 19:29 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: But I have just cross-compiter, not native compiler on target architecture. | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | sb2 will redirect to your cross compiler | 19:31 |
| [ol] | Should I change something in /usr/share/kickstarter-configs ? | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | no, "Target Setup" is the one you want to do | 19:32 |
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| Stskeeps | the sb2-init line there.. no need for -C /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic , and adjust /opt/cross/bin path | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | sb2-init -d -L "--sysroot=/" -C "--sysroot=/" -c /usr/bin/qemu-arm-dynamic -m sdk-build -n -N -t / mer-core /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | sb2-init -d -L "--sysroot=/" -C "--sysroot=/" -m sdk-build -n -N -t / mer-core /opt/cross/bin/x86_64-meego-linux-gnu-gccc | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | like that | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | without the last c ;) | 19:33 |
| [ol] | OK, I'll try. | 19:33 |
| [ol] | Is there a useful doc about SB2? | 19:34 |
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| Stskeeps | documentation wasn't their strongest side.. but http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/sb2.pdf explains it pretty well | 19:35 |
| [ol] | OK, thank you! | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | on what goes on | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | quite old doc, so rely on man pages instead | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | it's really powerful but also a bit underdocumented.. | 19:36 |
| [ol] | Documenting is vital to attract new developers. Otherwise it remains tribal knowledge nobody else can use. | 19:38 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:43 |
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| GeneralAntilles | 12 character limit on bugs.merproject.org | 20:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | Booo! | 20:28 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: Uh oh. | 20:28 |
| [ol] | Unsupported target architecture: 'x86_64' | 20:28 |
| [ol] | You must add support for it into preload/sb_exec.c | 20:28 |
| [ol] | and utils/sb2-init | 20:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | (username limit) | 20:29 |
| [ol] | OK, I've fixed utils/sb2-init, but there's no preload/sb_exec.c file. Du you know where this file's functionality was moved? | 20:29 |
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| CosmoHill | 12 chars? | 20:36 |
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| [ol] | Last time I was registering it was fixed to have 2 char username limit. | 20:38 |
| CosmoHill | that explains your nick | 20:38 |
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| [ol] | :-) | 20:42 |
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| [ol] | Does anybody know where latest scratchbox2 and scratchbox2 RPM files git repos are located? | 20:43 |
| [ol] | The RPM files repo in mer-core/scratchbox2 seems to be little bit outdated... | 20:43 |
| mikhas | GeneralAntilles, I wish we'd have Bugzilla as a Service (to use my new marketing skills) | 20:45 |
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| mikhas | one password to rule them all | 20:45 |
| mikhas | it's the biggest advantage of github projects: their "issue tracker" is crap, but at least you don't need yet another account (for each new project) | 20:45 |
| mikhas | anyway, pub time | 20:46 |
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| lbt_ | GeneralAntilles: ping me tomorrow re username | 21:15 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lbt_, OK. And congratulations, by the way. | 21:20 |
| lbt_ | :) ty | 21:21 |
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| ali1234 | i quite like github issue tracker. prefer it to bugzilla anyway :/ | 21:26 |
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| Bostik | meh, my left hand looks like something out of "Queer eye for the straight guy", in acid | 21:47 |
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| lbt_ | 'night all | 22:07 |
| shmerl | Hi, and night :) | 22:08 |
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| faenil | oh, look who's there | 22:15 |
| faenil | hi MFaro-Tusino | 22:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | hi faenil | 22:15 |
| MFaro-Tusino | just woke up, thought i would see how things are progressnig | 22:16 |
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| faenil | MFaro-Tusino, yes there is progress, Stskeeps confirmed you there's no UI available atm | 22:16 |
| faenil | VDVsx, ping | 22:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | yep, which means that we need to build our own ui (using lipstick) | 22:17 |
| faenil | well that's already there in Nemo.. | 22:18 |
| faenil | what do you need another one for | 22:18 |
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| VDVsx | faenil, pong | 22:20 |
| faenil | VDVsx, I just read your answer about the port thing, sorry | 22:21 |
| shmerl | There is also Zephyr project for the future open UI. | 22:21 |
| faenil | porting is actually I word I used to be more understandable by everyone...it's not a technical port for sure :) | 22:21 |
| faenil | a word* | 22:21 |
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| faenil | VDVsx, anyway it's a pity I didn't have a chat with you today :) | 22:24 |
| faenil | I met almost all Jollaians | 22:24 |
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| faenil | VDVsx, alright, I think you're gone, good night :) | 22:31 |
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| halVIII__ | I try 'git clone https://gitorious.org/+mer-qtcreator/mer-qt-creator.git' | 22:47 |
| halVIII__ | but certificate ssl is failled | 22:47 |
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| SpeedEvil | ignore certificate | 22:52 |
| SpeedEvil | and no, I don't know how to do that | 22:52 |
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| SpeedEvil | git to the manual. | 22:52 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 23:50 |
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