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| sonach | halVIII__: hey :) | 00:53 |
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| hello | hello | 05:14 |
| hello | eve | 05:14 |
| hello | where i can see the log yesterdat ？ | 05:15 |
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| zhxt | hello: here is it. http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23mer/index.html | 05:22 |
| situ | Morning everyone | 05:29 |
| hello | thanks zzhxt | 05:34 |
| hello | i fand it much time！ | 05:35 |
| zhxt | hello: you're welcome. : ) | 05:35 |
| hello | chn？ | 05:35 |
| zhxt | hello: yeah. | 05:36 |
| hello | i from hainan pro | 05:37 |
| zhxt | hello: I'm working in BJ. | 05:38 |
| hello | how do you think mer'S SDK | 05:38 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning all | 06:16 |
| ravirdv | good morning | 06:16 |
| hello | good morning | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | welcome to all the newcomers, if you have any questions on Mer, feel free to ask at any time :) | 06:18 |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: scratchbox2 package, but weird it even has a list | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | bit | 06:28 |
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| Bostik | morning, people | 06:51 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: was good seeing you at slush | 06:51 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: likewise | 06:52 |
| Bostik | and that of course holds for the whole crew | 06:53 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | if i get stuck with building the sdk, who is up for helping me :D | 07:11 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:29 |
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| Bostik | oh, right... qt5-beta2 has indeed dropped some of the required modules from "essential"; no wonder there weren't tags in all of them | 09:32 |
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| ajayp | hi | 09:41 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 10:00 |
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| khertan | Morning | 10:51 |
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| CosmoHill | .o/ | 10:53 |
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| khertan | i'm curious about something, mer use cobs probably the most active and important project of meego cobs, but who own the architecture and paid for it ? the lsf ? | 11:09 |
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| Stskeeps | khertan: mer itself is built on mer owned servers, many use cobs but the mer copy there is an import | 11:10 |
| khertan | ah ... good | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | we have a server budget of roughly 500eur/month paid by some contributors | 11:10 |
| khertan | you host also nemomobile ? | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | we're in midst of moving nemo, yes | 11:11 |
| khertan | Stskeeps, thx for the information | 11:12 |
| khertan | maybe you know if some have plan for apps 4 meego ? | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | that i don't know | 11:12 |
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| khertan | because currently nemo is clearly missing some app developper love, and there is no real solution for publishing apps for it (because apps4meego is almost dead/down don't know if it s really dead) | 11:13 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:14 |
| khertan | ;) | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | well, we have a package manager | 11:14 |
| khertan | yeah i see it, we can't ask user to add repo for each apps :) | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | CE:Apps | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | too | 11:15 |
| khertan | oh ! yes ... i forgot that ... there is a shared community repo ! | 11:16 |
| khertan | thx | 11:16 |
| khertan | ps : the package manager is really nice | 11:16 |
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| Stskeeps | hello ws, Morpog | 11:18 |
| Morpog | hiya | 11:18 |
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| faenil | khertan, qwazix changed the main page icons some weeks ago | 11:19 |
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| Stskeeps | Morpog: welcome to #mer, so what brings you here? :) | 11:19 |
| Morpog | :-) just following the development | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | sure :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time | 11:21 |
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| dm8tbr | lbt: should we try to migrate the mailing lists? seems like quite some spam getting through | 11:41 |
| sledges | good brunch noon! | 11:43 |
| CosmoHill | hi sledges | 11:46 |
| * sledges would be up for a nice English brunch, but forgot the wallet &( | 11:47 | |
| SouL_ | Hi | 11:47 |
| sledges | hello SouL_ | 11:47 |
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| CosmoHill | sledges: you scared him off | 11:50 |
| sledges | that person was brave enough to say hi after the English brunch bit - nothing can scare them off I think :D | 11:51 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: looks like ubuntu's evdev Xorg driver uses mtev. Any plans in bringing that to Mer? Currently the Xorg's evdev doesn't understand the kernel's multitouch evdev interface and I guess quite many android based kernels may support only that | 11:53 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: hmm, we have -mtev available too | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | though not in mer, i should really put it there | 11:54 |
| kulve | yes, but wouldn't it be easier to have one evdev driver that would suite the tradition single touch as well as the newer(?) multitouch? | 11:54 |
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| faenil | Stskeeps, where are the sources of MerSDK? there's a spelling mistake in the main SDK screen | 11:57 |
| faenil | I mean sources of the vm image | 11:57 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: hmm, i've never really had success with the evdev one for mt | 12:11 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: I just realized that the upstream evdev uses alread mtev, so it's not (just) ubuntu's changes. I'll see if I have the time to try it out | 12:11 |
| sledges | faenil, which package is it? | 12:13 |
| faenil | sledges, I want to fix the spelling mistake in the main SDK screen | 12:13 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: Ubuntu seems to have only one patch against the upstream evdev (use-sigsafe-logging.diff) and their evdev works with n7 | 12:14 |
| sledges | is it bash login prompt ? | 12:14 |
| faenil | sledges, nope, the graphical one, with the blue background | 12:14 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: ok | 12:21 |
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| kontio | faenil, I think lbt repo is the master here: https://github.com/lbt/sdk-setup/blob/master/src/sdk-info but not 100% sure... | 12:30 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, .. | 12:31 |
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| faenil | kontio, alright thanks ;) I'll wait for a confirmation from someone from Jolla :) | 12:34 |
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| sledges | Mer SDK existed also before Jolla ;) | 12:46 |
| aportale | auri__: I assume that an SDK installer will have to do this https://github.com/lbt/sdk-setup/blob/master/src/sdk-info (..in cross-platform manner) | 12:47 |
| auri__ | aportale: this is what comes up when I start my VM | 12:48 |
| aportale | auri__: Actually, that's wronng | 12:48 |
| aportale | auri__: Yep, that is not for the host | 12:48 |
| auri__ | I dont think that should be part of the sdk installer | 12:48 |
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| aportale | I just upgraded the mer SDK via web-based config tool, and now after reboot the web service is not running. Any idea to to manually launch it? | 13:08 |
| * aportale needs 6 minutes for a 1st-time build of "hello world" app: http://pastie.org/5423032 Something is seriously misconfigured on my system. | 13:09 | |
| sledges | web-based config tool = OBS aportale ? | 13:10 |
| aportale | sledges: No, I mean the new web interface for managing the SDK, targets, toolchains, etc. | 13:11 |
| sledges | niiice I'd like to try that one. How come didn't hear anything about it | 13:11 |
| aportale | sledges: It is fairly new. Not sure if it already has a proper name :) | 13:11 |
| sledges | until now good old command line interface worked fast for me :) | 13:12 |
| sledges | link? ;) | 13:12 |
| sledges | pls | 13:12 |
| aportale | sledges: Try http://127.0.0.1:8080/ | 13:12 |
| sledges | 8) | 13:12 |
| sledges | after installing SDK you mean? | 13:12 |
| sledges | is it in a VM as well? | 13:12 |
| aportale | sledges: After launching the MerVM | 13:12 |
| sledges | ok, so it's the VM SDK | 13:13 |
| aportale | sledges: I only know it running in side the VM. But it may also just work in a chroor scenario, I guess. | 13:13 |
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| sledges | the only chroot commands I use are sdkroot mount and enter | 13:14 |
| sledges | doubt that they spawn a webserver.. | 13:14 |
| sledges | very interesting though, gotta try vm and investigate ;) | 13:14 |
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| alterego | It's designed to work in chroot as well. | 13:34 |
| alterego | But you'll have to as lbt how the services get started | 13:34 |
| alterego | sledges: ^ | 13:34 |
| alterego | The chroot images are generated the same way and with the same packages as the VM images, it's all Mer :) | 13:35 |
| sledges | I think there are differences in -vm- image (it recently was renamed to -wip- instead). Probably SDK just starts the osc daemon and no magic required, but now I'm setting up VM SDK, to know what is where | 13:36 |
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| sledges | alterego, aportale: in chrooted mer sdk there is no /usr/lib/sdk-webapp-bundle/ , so web interface is from a VM currently (I'm using 31st october chroot sdk image btw) | 13:58 |
| aportale | sledges: I use an image that is about 2 weeks, and that was one of the first images having that web interface. | 13:59 |
| sledges | chrooted or vm ? | 14:00 |
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| yunta | I think (newest) sdk-webapp and sdk-manage are not yet "in". they are in mine and henrik's repos. we'll sr them soon. | 14:07 |
| sledges | the vm sdk is already pointing to henrik's repo, and renamed as -wip- | 14:08 |
| sledges | (pointing as in wiki) | 14:08 |
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| yunta | ah, nice | 14:12 |
| sledges | yunta, that's how we got that cunning ruby web interface ;) keep up the good work! | 14:13 |
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| yunta | yes, henrik and mruk did a good job | 14:19 |
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| wspilot | cannot clone mer-qt-creator. anyone else having the problem? if not, please ignore (then its possibly the comp network setting) | 14:21 |
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| Psy-Q | wspilot: am cloning it right now, seems to work. the one from qt.gitorious.org? | 14:22 |
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| Psy-Q | the wiki says mer-qt-creator is hard to build, but it seems to just build out of the box on debian wheezy? | 14:25 |
| wspilot | i use this: git clone git://gitorious.org/+mer-qt-creator/qt-creator/mer-qt-creator.git mer-qt-creator | 14:25 |
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| Psy-Q | wspilot: works for me | 14:26 |
| wspilot | tahnks | 14:26 |
| Psy-Q | no prob :) | 14:26 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: what evdev version is that? | 14:29 |
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| Stskeeps | (sorry, bit comatose today so a bit slow :) | 14:29 |
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| lbt | Psy-Q: did you get the private headers? | 14:44 |
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| Psy-Q | lbt: yes. everything compiled, boom, go, now it's running | 14:49 |
| Psy-Q | just fooling around with the designer now | 14:50 |
| lbt | yep - same here .. but I sure don't want a journalist evaluating it :) | 14:50 |
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| Psy-Q | well, if that same journalist ever tried the android sdk with its ten bazillion trillion platform-specific extensions and targets.. | 14:53 |
| Psy-Q | i had more issues getting that to run than getting mer-qt-creator up and compiling something just now :) | 14:53 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: I just checked the HEAD of the git | 15:21 |
| kulve | somebody from the #ubuntu-arm confirmed that it "works" although he didn't at least yet get the Invert/swap options working | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | i do recall ubuntu's multitouch isn't exactly xinput2 though? | 15:22 |
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| kulve | this is guy is using debian, afaik | 15:24 |
| kulve | but no idea about xinput2 | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | i'll take a peek at it once i've fully recovered from this week | 15:25 |
| SouL_ | I'm using debian | 15:27 |
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| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW2NuxOC8fU | 16:17 |
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| azurewood | =-O | 17:07 |
| CosmoHill | indeed | 17:07 |
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| azurewood | anybody running sailfish on his/her phone? | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | probably a better topic for #jollamobile :) | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | sailfish is made up of mer core (here), nemo middleware (#nemomobile), and sailfish ui + 3rd party offerings (#jollamobile) | 17:10 |
| azurewood | great | 17:10 |
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| vgrade | evening all | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | evening vgrade :) | 17:21 |
| vgrade | hi Stskeeps , congrats on the week | 17:22 |
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| vgrade | bet you're all a bit tired | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | liked the show though? | 17:24 |
| vgrade | yea, wishing I could make it. team intro was inspiring | 17:24 |
| faenil | hard on emotions :) | 17:25 |
| faenil | that music is so cool... | 17:25 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: I thought i'd have a look at latest maliit on eglfsrpi , seems as if there is a qt5 plugin and maliit framework support | 17:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 17:29 |
| vgrade | http://lists.maliit.org/pipermail/maliit-announce-maliit.org/2012-November/000021.html | 17:30 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: unless its been looked at elsewhere | 17:31 |
| vgrade | I also did http://review.merproject.org/#change,998 earlier in the week | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | you should fix your signed-off-by | 17:32 |
| Stskeeps | your name isn't ubuntu, but it's supposedly legal as a name in uk | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:33 |
| vgrade | :) | 17:33 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: hah, awesome video :) | 17:35 |
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| Stskeeps | hello Zvjer | 17:38 |
| Zvjer | yo | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | Zvjer: welcome to #mer :) so what brings you here? | 17:38 |
| Zvjer | my phone brings me here, typing slowly from N9 | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | hehe :) if you have any questions, feel free to ask at any time, else feel free to hang out | 17:39 |
| Zvjer | is there any work going on on making a sailfish os image for n9? where can I read more about that? | 17:41 |
| Stskeeps | Zvjer: #jollamobile 's more likely to be your place, but at the moment, only parts of sailfish that's out there is Mer Core + Nemo Middleware and the SDK is getting polished | 17:41 |
| sledges | join ##wewantsailfish | 17:41 |
| sledges | :) | 17:42 |
| Zvjer | wait, let me go on pc | 17:42 |
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| Zvjer | much better now | 17:44 |
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| Zvjer | so I joined | 17:46 |
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| CosmoHill | yay pc | 17:47 |
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| Zvjer | I don't like this app, must get myself BitchX :) | 17:52 |
| sledges | :))) I see which year you are coming from | 17:53 |
| sledges | first thing I looked was bitchx months ago, but had to settle with irssi | 17:53 |
| sledges | (problems or no bitch for N9..) | 17:53 |
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| rcg | evening all | 20:56 |
| rcg | is there already someone working on a hw-adaptation for nexus 7? | 20:57 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | rcg: don't think so | 20:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but shouldn't be that hard, ubuntu works on it | 20:58 |
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| rcg | Sfiet_Konstantin, yeah, just checking to avoid duplicate work ;) | 20:59 |
| rcg | however, i guess i wont find time for it soon as i am fully loaded with work | 20:59 |
| rcg | but in case anyone needs some testing i could quickly install it | 21:00 |
| rcg | otherwise, i could, maybe in one or two weeks, look into getting a kernel ready for mer based on the ubuntu one | 21:00 |
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| SpeedEvil | nexus 7 'phone' would be amusing | 21:06 |
| SpeedEvil | (the one with 3g) | 21:06 |
| faenil | rcg, vgrade was looking for a spar enexus7 to do that :) | 21:13 |
| faenil | spare* | 21:13 |
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| CosmoHill | hello lardman, how's the sofa? | 21:16 |
| rcg | faenil, right, i see | 21:18 |
| faenil | but he hasn't found it so far afaik | 21:18 |
| rcg | kk | 21:18 |
| rcg | well, to be completely accurate it's also not mine.. just got it for the office | 21:18 |
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| faenil | :D | 21:19 |
| rcg | but as we are researching, one type of research could be to put an android alternative on it :) | 21:19 |
| rcg | and it's "just" the 16gb model | 21:20 |
| rcg | but better than nothing :) | 21:20 |
| faenil | :D | 21:26 |
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