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| iekku | morning | 04:13 |
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| Bostik | morning indeed | 04:28 |
| JvD_ | morning | 04:33 |
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| situ | Morning all | 05:00 |
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| Stskeeps | morh | 05:03 |
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| Bostik | let's see how far I get with an article draft during this train trip... | 05:22 |
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| * Stskeeps looks foward to diving into a big mug of coffee | 05:27 | |
| Stskeeps | for those who don't know, tosay a Mer based UI will be launched, video streaming from 11.00 finnish time at slush.fi | 05:29 |
| Stskeeps | just so you can see what _you_ also can do with mer :) | 05:29 |
| wmarone | I will be asleep :/ | 05:32 |
| kulve | where's the information about the live video stream? | 05:32 |
| wmarone | is there going to be an archive I can peruse during the day? | 05:32 |
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| Stskeeps | wmarone: shoould be recorded | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know details | 06:00 |
| kulve | I do hope the details (i.e. the url) magically appears before the event goes live.. | 06:02 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. i think JollaMobile twitter should keep people updated.. | 06:03 |
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| Stskeeps | *. | 06:24 |
| Bostik | RTL regular expressions? | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | typing in pocket | 06:26 |
| Bostik | ah | 06:28 |
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| sledges | good early morning :) | 06:53 |
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| dcthang | what's the time there? | 06:59 |
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| kulve | you mean here? | 07:03 |
| sledges | :) looking out for promised media event, but they are having tech diffs, now dm8tbr is needed and someone on-site with webcam ;) | 07:04 |
| kulve | audio would be even more important than a video and for any decent audio you need to plug in the speaker's microphone | 07:05 |
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| dcthang | kulve: yep :) | 07:08 |
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| kulve | the event is starting and the whole slush.fi went down. Doesn't look too good | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | ouch? | 07:26 |
| kulve | now it loads slowly | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | you should see the cloak room situation | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | it's comparable | 07:27 |
| hena | i don't understand what's so hard about graceful web degradation | 07:30 |
| niqt | morning | 07:30 |
| dm8tbr | anyone seen a streaming url yet? | 07:34 |
| special | not yet. | 07:34 |
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| niqt | access denied http://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=slush | 07:38 |
| kulve | the event has started already and we are seeing nothing. Sucks | 07:38 |
| special | it hasn't started. | 07:38 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | the stream is offline | 07:39 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | don't be afraid | 07:39 |
| kulve | special: it has. Just not the Mer part yet | 07:39 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | if there were something, I whould have been like tweeting like crazy | 07:39 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | and posting like OMFG this, OMG that | 07:39 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | so alright | 07:39 |
| special | that stream didn't come from any official source, as far as I'm aware? | 07:40 |
| kulve | SKonstantin_Lapt: you seem to be late, news sites are already telling interesting details | 07:40 |
| special | kulve: per slush.fi, the opening is in 20min. | 07:40 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | kulve: give me those details ? | 07:40 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | I'm at Slush | 07:40 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | in front of the main stage | 07:40 |
| kulve | http://yle.fi/uutiset/dna_ja_jolla_lyottaytyvat_yhteen/6384797 | 07:41 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | I'm not at the conference press ... Indeed :D | 07:41 |
| kulve | well, good that there's still 18mins until the official opening. Maybe they'll fix the video by then.. | 07:42 |
| sroedal | what's the live stream to follow? | 07:43 |
| special | not announced yet | 07:44 |
| sroedal | ok | 07:44 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | crappy stuff with the music | 07:44 |
| SKonstantin_Lapt | but nothing interesting now | 07:44 |
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| SKonstantin_Lapt | it is about to start | 07:52 |
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| SKonstantin_Lapt | go to #JollaMobile guys | 08:02 |
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| sroedal | http://new.livestream.com/slushlive/mainstage | 08:03 |
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| mikhas | slush slush slush slush slush! | 08:30 |
| mikhas | erm, I meant "moin" … | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | welcome to slushicide 2012 | 08:31 |
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| chriadam | Stskeeps: what's the livestream url - is there one up yet, or is that still being worked on? | 08:33 |
| radiofree | http://new.livestream.com/slushlive/mainstage | 08:35 |
| chriadam | tyvm | 08:35 |
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| ravirdv | just checked https://sailfishos.org/wiki/QA | 08:40 |
| ravirdv | it says "Many Android(TM) applications will run on Jolla devices unchanged" | 08:40 |
| ravirdv | awesome! | 08:40 |
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| mikhas | give your best guys | 08:59 |
| villev | is this the official reception channel? ;-) | 09:00 |
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| zhxt | #jollamobile | 09:01 |
| jfr_SK_Laptop | villev: #JollaMobile is better | 09:01 |
| jfr_SK_Laptop | villev: a LOT of people talking about it | 09:01 |
| zhxt | sorrry... | 09:01 |
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| hanmaokun | Hi, all I am new here, have anyone have experience running Mer on BeagleBoard | 09:10 |
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| aifff | BEGIN??? | 09:19 |
| jstaniek | do I see Carsten on the stage? | 09:22 |
| sroedal | I spied w00t as well | 09:23 |
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| CosmoHill | Morning | 09:37 |
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| DaveEnglish | Night | 09:39 |
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| aifff | Morning | 09:47 |
| aifff | JOLLA | 09:47 |
| aifff | JOLLA.COM IS OPEN | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | yup, + | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | #jollamobile | 09:48 |
| CosmoHill | ooo, cool site | 09:48 |
| CosmoHill | wait a minute, it's just a fancy twitter feed | 09:49 |
| CosmoHill | oh wow you can move the UFO | 09:49 |
| E-P | Stskeeps: nice! | 09:51 |
| E-P | great show | 09:51 |
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| dcthang | and this one http://jollatides.com/ | 09:55 |
| CosmoHill | livestream doesn't seem to be working for me | 09:56 |
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| kyyberi | Stskeeps: it was nice to see you (and Mer) on the stage as well | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 10:01 |
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| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, good stuff | 10:01 |
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| Venemo_N9 | Stskeeps, how much of the UI is open? | 10:02 |
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| kulve | 0%? | 10:04 |
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| Venemo_N9 | nah, middleware is open at least :) | 10:05 |
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| kulve | mer/nemo/whatever could use the Sailfish desktop to be more attractive for testing/developing | 10:13 |
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| Venemo_N9 | kulve, we'll have a better homescreen in Nemo soon | 10:14 |
| kulve | great | 10:14 |
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| Jucato | not at home atm so can't stream or load flash vids, so I have no idea and I have to ask: will jolla be based on mer or is it like basing on a fork of meego harmattan? | 10:21 |
| Venemo_N9 | it's based on mer and shares middleware with Nemo | 10:22 |
| Jucato | oh, that's absolutely awesome | 10:23 |
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| Venemo_N9 | afaik | 10:25 |
| Jucato | ah | 10:26 |
| Bostik | that was neat, the demo effect hit the PA system and not the demo itself | 10:26 |
| Bostik | while the venue area clears a bit, it should be a good time for lunch | 10:27 |
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| slaine | right, I need a coffee after all that excitement | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | i need a martini | 10:29 |
| slaine | lol | 10:29 |
| slaine | well earned too | 10:30 |
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| slaine | Congrats | 10:30 |
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| Bostik | lbt: this Mer t-shirt is gold, those who *know* about the stack, are approaching willingly | 10:30 |
| CosmoHill | hi Bostik and slaine | 10:31 |
| slaine | Hey CosmoHill | 10:31 |
| Bostik | 'hoy there | 10:31 |
| Bostik | escaped the venue for food, much prefer waiting in table with room to spare | 10:32 |
| CosmoHill | speaking of food, I'm off to get some milk | 10:33 |
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| slaine | nod | 10:35 |
| slaine | oops wrong window | 10:35 |
| slaine | see, I need that coffee | 10:35 |
| mja- | no product launch today? | 10:36 |
| * w00t wanders in and falls asleep under someone's desk | 10:37 | |
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| Stskeeps | mja, ui and sdk | 10:37 |
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| mja- | stskeeps, great. will check out sdk in the evening. do you know if n950 binaries for running sailfish will be made available? | 10:39 |
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| Stskeeps | mja-, the n950 hw adaptation has some restrictions that make it problematic | 10:41 |
| mja- | k | 10:43 |
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| sledges | absolute compliments | 10:47 |
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| lardman | Stskeeps: any details on the N950 hw adaptation problems? | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | the license says commercial redistribution forbidden | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | along those lines | 11:43 |
| lardman | oh I see, distribution rather than hw itself then | 11:44 |
| lardman | any chance that might change? | 11:45 |
| CosmoHill | hey lardman | 11:45 |
| lardman | hi CosmoHill | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | doubtful | 11:45 |
| lardman | :( | 11:45 |
| lardman | Who wrote the hw adaptation? Jolla? | 11:46 |
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| Stskeeps | nokia | 11:47 |
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| lardman | Oh right | 11:48 |
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| lardman | What about non-commercial redistribution...? Depends on the exact wording of the licence I imagine | 11:49 |
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| Stskeeps | thats usually ok but it's a bit grey | 11:51 |
| lardman | so presumably one might be able to obtain N950 images | 11:51 |
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| xmlich02 | what is special on mer brach of qt creator? https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Build_your_own_copy_of_QtCreator | 12:12 |
| xmlich02 | what is different in there? | 12:12 |
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| sledges | cross compile easier? | 12:35 |
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| Stskeeps | same basis | 12:36 |
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| vgrade_ | checks the news over lunch | 12:43 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade_: hope it looks good | 12:45 |
| vgrade_ | NovaThor | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | ST-E's one of the hardware vendors that supports sailfish os, yes | 12:46 |
| vgrade_ | PVR versions I'm guessing | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | work is ongoing for other chipsets too | 12:47 |
| vgrade_ | good , lots of adaptation work | 12:47 |
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| CosmoHill | linux is so much more fun with tv in the background | 12:48 |
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| vgrade_ | does sailfish os include the MW:Shared stuff | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes, nemo middleware | 12:54 |
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| * Stskeeps smiles and now looks forward to be sleeping soundly tonight | 13:01 | |
| Stskeeps | .. and then back to coding | 13:01 |
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| Stskeeps | https://twitter.com/JollaPL/status/271243030365876224/photo/1 ;) | 13:31 |
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| crevetor | Hey ! Congrats all, Sailfish looks awesome :) | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 14:41 |
| crevetor | Can't wait to try it on my N950 | 14:41 |
| timoph | they're making it available to try on n9(50)? | 14:42 |
| crevetor | timoph: that's what I've read | 14:42 |
| timoph | oh. nice | 14:42 |
| timoph | too busy day at work. Had only time to quicky check the ui video | 14:43 |
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| crevetor | https://twitter.com/JollaMobile/status/271255213527138305 | 14:43 |
| timoph | nice. the sdk release is tomorrow, right? | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | don't get your hopes too much up, fwiw | 14:44 |
| Stskeeps | there's a lot of things that aren't yet worked out | 14:44 |
| * timoph considers himself a realist | 14:44 | |
| Stskeeps | and n950/n9 hw adaptation isn't as good as it can be | 14:44 |
| timoph | *as | 14:44 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: oh I had a question : is gstreamer the multimedia pipeline of choice in mer ? | 14:46 |
| timoph | not really expecting to get a fully working system. just something to get a sense of the os and enable to write some piece of sw for it | 14:46 |
| mja- | is the sdk the sdk for writing end user apps? | 14:47 |
| timoph | wiki mentions qt creator so I'd guess apps | 14:47 |
| timoph | https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Main_Page | 14:47 |
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| mja- | right so there'# going to be a jolla/sailfish target without too much of a hassle? | 14:48 |
| timoph | I'd hope so | 14:49 |
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| mja- | fingers crossed! I'll buy a pint to whoever writes a 101 of gettin qt creator with jolla target up and running from scratch :) | 14:52 |
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| CosmoHill | using menuconfig on a 1680x1050 monitor showing 800x600 resolution makes all my other devices look really sharp afterwards | 15:24 |
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| harneet | hello | 16:59 |
| harneet | anyone | 16:59 |
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| harneet | i want to know about sdk for sailfish | 16:59 |
| situ | harneet: https://sailfishos.org/ | 17:00 |
| situ | Tomorrow there's going to be a session about Sailfish SDK at Slush. | 17:01 |
| kulve | time to add the QA page to the topic? :) | 17:01 |
| harneet | but i want to download sdk | 17:01 |
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| harneet | situ whats ur name ? | 17:01 |
| RaYmAn | it's quite clear on the site that it's not available for download yet :) | 17:01 |
| harneet | ok | 17:02 |
| harneet | anyone android developer here > | 17:02 |
| harneet | ? | 17:02 |
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| malves_info | I | 17:02 |
| RaYmAn | app developer or? | 17:02 |
| harneet | ya | 17:02 |
| harneet | but qt software is available | 17:03 |
| malves_info | harneet i'm android dev | 17:03 |
| harneet | app or platform | 17:03 |
| malves_info | both | 17:03 |
| nemik | hello, i'm sorry for the noob question, but is there support in Mer for guten-print and using Linux print drivers either over USB or the network? | 17:03 |
| malves_info | this moment i'm working for apps | 17:04 |
| harneet | malves are u on fb | 17:04 |
| malves_info | yep.. | 17:04 |
| harneet | i want more help on android app development | 17:05 |
| harneet | pls give ur fb id | 17:05 |
| malves_info | sent on particular chat | 17:05 |
| malves_info | pls check | 17:05 |
| malves_info | ;) | 17:05 |
| harneet | malves | 17:05 |
| harneet | ok | 17:06 |
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| Chris__ | Can anyone confirm which root certificates are on sailfish? Does it have all of the root certificates from NSS/Mozilla? | 17:13 |
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| vgrade | looks for videos of the days events | 18:53 |
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| wfire | vgrade | 18:54 |
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| wfire | there is an official channel on youtube | 18:54 |
| wfire | http://www.youtube.com/user/jollaofficial | 18:54 |
| wfire | that shows some cool stuff | 18:54 |
| vgrade | wfire: cheers | 18:54 |
| wfire | hope that helps | 18:54 |
| wfire | wait aren't you on twitter as vgrade | 18:54 |
| wfire | I think I follow you | 18:54 |
| wfire | maybe not | 18:55 |
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| CosmoHill | wfire: stalker | 18:57 |
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| wfire | shhh | 18:58 |
| wfire | lol | 18:58 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 18:58 |
| CosmoHill | not that I own a foot long telephoto lens >.> | 18:58 |
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| rantom | Congratulations for Jolla-group | 19:02 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: what devices did you have on stage | 19:49 |
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| Stskeeps | secret | 19:51 |
| vgrade | :) | 19:52 |
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| Bostik | something wrapped in tinfoil, but you can of course take a wild guess | 19:56 |
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| ljp | should have been wrapped in newspaper | 20:06 |
| ljp | would go with the fish theme better | 20:06 |
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| ljp | nice to see Joona figured so prominently | 20:08 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: the guy who talked about the guys who run sailfish on all sorts of devices at the beginning was you right ? | 20:10 |
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| Ken_Young | Is there a separate IRC channel for nemo, of is it appropriate to discuss that here too? | 20:25 |
| vgrade | Ken_Young: HI, #nemomobile | 20:27 |
| Ken_Young | vgrade, Thanks! | 20:27 |
| vgrade | Ken_Young: good to see you in Mer as well :) | 20:27 |
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| vgrade | Ken_Young: both projects have good links and common people | 20:28 |
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| Ken_Young | vgrade, Thanks again, I'm going to try to figure out how to port a couple of my apps to run atop nemo, as a stepping stone towards jollamobile. | 20:28 |
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| vgrade | cool, great news today | 20:29 |
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| Ken_Young | Indeed - I'm very excited. | 20:29 |
| vgrade | things may be a little quiet as most of the guys are at Slush but always help here and at nemomobile | 20:29 |
| vgrade | welcome aboard | 20:30 |
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| Stskeeps | crevetor: yes | 20:41 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: ok :) | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | how did you enjoy the show? | 20:42 |
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| crevetor | Stskeeps: I liked it, I wish we could have seen more of the platform. | 20:43 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: but I haven't seen the video of the afternoon session | 20:43 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, that one was much better | 20:44 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: I'm all the more motivated to continue working on fcam :) | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: good | 20:46 |
| crevetor | Stskeeps: is the UI fully QML ? | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | fully qml | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | some c++ in places but just qml plugins | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | .. and it's qt4 | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | which makes it even more amazing :P | 20:46 |
| crevetor | cool | 20:46 |
| Bostik | ...which to me is even more impressive | 20:46 |
| Bostik | knowing what the stack looks like beneath QtQuick 1.1 :) | 20:47 |
| crevetor | Is it gonna be available before any products ship ? | 20:47 |
| crevetor | I'd install it to my other N9 :) | 20:47 |
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| Stskeeps | evening jkepler | 20:54 |
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| jkepler | hi. first time i've ever used irc. | 20:57 |
| jkepler | i'm curious about the mer project. is there somewhere where an os can be downloaded for my nokia booklet 3g? | 20:57 |
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| wmarone | that's a pretty standard x86 netbook, isn't it? | 20:58 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but has gma500 | 20:58 |
| wmarone | ouch | 20:58 |
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| jkepler | i'm running lubuntu 12.1 on it right now. | 20:59 |
| jkepler | yup, gma500 is awful to deal with | 20:59 |
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| Stskeeps | jkepler: so you may get somewhere with llvmpipe | 21:01 |
| ali1234 | fun fact: 12.10 uses llvmpipe by default for unity... but since you're using lubuntu i'm guessing that didn't work out to well? | 21:03 |
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| jkepler | i went with lubunu simply because it was lighter, and there's limited memory | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | by default = if you don't have a working driver | 21:03 |
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| jkepler | so does the mer project have an iso that can be downloaded from their website? | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | jkepler: so, mer's just a core | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | lubuntu being light is kind of a myth :) | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | you combine it with a hardware adaptation | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | and a ui | 21:04 |
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| jkepler | ah, thanks. that's a bit beyond my pay grade. i don't have the time to learn the coding to do either of those, at least not these days. | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | yep - it's a bit special setup | 21:05 |
| jkepler | i guess i'll wait and just keep an eye out for what comes out of jolla or tizen | 21:06 |
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| jkepler | thanks, everyone! | 21:06 |
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| shmerl | Hi | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | evening sherml | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: | 21:11 |
| shmerl | Can anyone explain please (folks at #jollamobile weren't sure), if Sailfish is a generic layer of OS+UI built for more vendors to share and extend? Kind of Mer idea, but on a higher level. And is it fully open? If so, then Jolla's OS will be an extension of Sailifish, not Sailfish itself. And the extended part will contain the closed UI. Or Sailfish is referring to the Jolla's only release, with that very closed UI? | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | not sure how we can answer it better :) | 21:12 |
| shmerl | It's for community questions list, to remove there what's already known. | 21:12 |
| shmerl | Well, I think I just asked there when no one who knew were around :) | 21:12 |
| Figure | :D | 21:13 |
| shmerl | Or Jolla still didn't publish that info at all? | 21:13 |
| Figure | Stskeeps: I still wonder do you ever sleep :D | 21:13 |
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| shmerl | Thanks for the presentation by the way. | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | Figure: i'm sitting in jolla hq | 21:14 |
| shmerl | OK, if it's still vague I'll leave it as a Q for Jolla in the list :) | 21:15 |
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| Stskeeps | shmerl: first off, can you quickly enlighten me on the 'fully open' part of sailfish, what your source is? | 21:15 |
| Figure | Stskeeps: fair enough :) | 21:15 |
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| shmerl | There was some talk about having an open base for vendors to share. Which was a higher level than Mer. | 21:16 |
| shmerl | One of the earlier Jolla videos | 21:16 |
| shmerl | That's what I was asking. | 21:16 |
| shmerl | Whether it means Sailfish, or not. | 21:16 |
| shmerl | Since it's somewhat confusing. | 21:17 |
| Figure | shmerl: the mw level is nemo | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: the key messages are what are said today, so consider that the current state | 21:17 |
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| shmerl | Or to put it differently, is Jolla's personal release be a stock Sailfish, or an extension? | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | sailfish is practically mer core + nemo middleware (not ui) + sailfish ui | 21:18 |
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| shmerl | Makes sense. So basically Sailfish is Jolla only thing, right? | 21:19 |
| Figure | +1 | 21:19 |
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| shmerl | And in the future mer core + nemo middleware will be a base for vendors to share? | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | no, sailfish is shared between vendors, but the specific licensing is under discussion | 21:19 |
| shmerl | I see. It's not so clear from https://sailfishos.org/ | 21:20 |
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| shmerl | But even though it's shared it'll include some closed parts also (UI wise), or not? | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | the exact licensing is under discussion - let's see where things go | 21:21 |
| shmerl | OK, thanks, so it's undecided yet. | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | it doesn't really make sense to keep the ui of a mobile OS to one vendor only | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:21 |
| shmerl | Right. | 21:22 |
| Stskeeps | if anything, today what's launched is the ui and the sdk | 21:22 |
| Stskeeps | more to come | 21:22 |
| shmerl | That SDK will include an OS image that will be pluggable into Mer SDK as well? | 21:22 |
| Stskeeps | sysroot yes | 21:23 |
| shmerl | That's good | 21:23 |
| Bostik | catch you guys on slush-breakfast tomorrow? | 21:23 |
| Stskeeps | possibly.. we're erm, hacking atm | 21:23 |
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| Figure | :D | 21:23 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: hottub hacking :) | 21:23 |
| Figure | hacking the wiskey bottle open :D | 21:23 |
| Stskeeps | no, that's another part of the hw team | 21:23 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:23 |
| Figure | I hope you guys at least have single malt ;) | 21:23 |
| Figure | since you've earned it | 21:24 |
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| shmerl | I hope some stuff will go upstream to Qt Creator at some point. | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | naturally - it's based on the mer qt creator work :) | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | maintaining own fork is hard work | 21:24 |
| shmerl | :nod: | 21:24 |
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| Bostik | and in case of Qt, counter-productive to the extreme | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | yup | 21:25 |
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| pvanhoof | Hi guys, does somebody know whether the Jolla team installs libtracker-sparql, qtcontacts-tracker and/or tracker on top of Mer to build JollaOS? I heard from hasselmm that this might be the case, so now im wondering ;-) | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | probably better for #jollamobile :) tracker isn't in mer core | 21:29 |
| pvanhoof | yeah | 21:29 |
| pvanhoof | But you don't know, Stskeeps ? me thinks all the jolla guys are partying | 21:30 |
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| jstaniek | Stskeeps: hi, it was nice to see you on stage :) | 21:59 |
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| Stskeeps | jstaniek: thanks, i had hoped to only be behind the scenes, but i'm proud of my team and what we can do | 21:59 |
| jstaniek | Stskeeps: is it possible to know if Sailfish is Qt4 or Qt 5 based? | 21:59 |
| shmerl | Bringing the whole team there was nice. | 22:00 |
| jstaniek | yes, it's quite rare, too many emulate God mode of Jobs | 22:00 |
| Stskeeps | jstaniek: qt4, which is very impressive. join the qt5 effort at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr | 22:00 |
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| jstaniek | Stskeeps: I was wondering since BB10 has a bit forked Qt 4 inside and they do not seem to know when qt5 support would come | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | ours is the same as in mer | 22:02 |
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| jstaniek | there'll be many runtimes anyway... | 22:02 |
| shmerl | Qt 5 isn't even officially released. Why would it go into production yet? | 22:03 |
| jstaniek | yeah, better not to wait with devices... and one year ago there was risk of large delay of qt5 | 22:04 |
| jstaniek | when Jolla worked on the stuff, I guess | 22:04 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. | 22:04 |
| Stskeeps | still, the ui -flies- | 22:05 |
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| Venemo | hey lbt_ what was on your T-Shirt in the Jolla video? I couldn't read it clear | 22:49 |
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| yunta | Venemo: I believe it was: Unlike closed. Unlike before. Unlike the rest. | 22:58 |
| Venemo | ah | 22:58 |
| Venemo | nice | 22:58 |
| Venemo | thanks yunta | 22:58 |
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| yunta | np | 22:59 |
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| lbt_ | yup | 23:07 |
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