| *** gabriel9 has quit IRC | 00:03 | |
| *** yunta has quit IRC | 00:13 | |
| *** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 00:21 | |
| CosmoHill | night night | 00:29 |
|---|---|---|
| *** CosmoHill has quit IRC | 00:29 | |
| *** ALoGeNo has joined #mer | 00:32 | |
| *** yunta_ has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** sonach has joined #mer | 00:53 | |
| sonach | morning | 00:53 |
| chriadam | gmorning | 00:54 |
| *** qrwteyrutiyoup has left #mer | 01:01 | |
| *** ALoGeNo has quit IRC | 01:03 | |
| *** dedis5 has joined #mer | 01:07 | |
| *** dedis5 has quit IRC | 01:15 | |
| *** b-man` has joined #mer | 01:24 | |
| *** jstaniek has quit IRC | 01:25 | |
| *** Mirv has quit IRC | 01:29 | |
| *** Mirv has joined #mer | 01:31 | |
| *** harha1 has quit IRC | 01:36 | |
| *** imunsie has joined #mer | 01:51 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 02:00 | |
| *** stevewp has joined #mer | 02:07 | |
| stevewp | hello anyone here ? | 02:07 |
| *** stevewp has quit IRC | 02:08 | |
| *** blauzahl has quit IRC | 02:48 | |
| *** KaIRC has quit IRC | 03:12 | |
| *** b-man` has quit IRC | 03:24 | |
| *** FSCV has quit IRC | 03:25 | |
| *** blam_ has joined #mer | 03:26 | |
| *** rc__ has joined #mer | 03:29 | |
| *** rc_ has quit IRC | 03:32 | |
| *** furikku has joined #mer | 03:57 | |
| *** rdqfdx has joined #mer | 04:01 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC | 04:03 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer06 has joined #mer | 04:03 | |
| Stskeeps | morn | 04:07 |
| chriadam | gmorning | 04:10 |
| *** lpotter has quit IRC | 04:12 | |
| *** ljp has joined #mer | 04:13 | |
| iekku | morning | 04:14 |
| *** dedis has joined #mer | 04:27 | |
| *** rdqfdx has quit IRC | 04:43 | |
| *** imunsie_ has joined #mer | 05:00 | |
| *** imunsie has quit IRC | 05:03 | |
| *** imunsie_ has quit IRC | 05:04 | |
| *** imunsie has joined #mer | 05:05 | |
| *** harha has joined #mer | 05:09 | |
| *** Milhouse has quit IRC | 05:18 | |
| *** Milhouse has joined #mer | 05:19 | |
| *** ljp has quit IRC | 05:27 | |
| *** harha has quit IRC | 05:28 | |
| *** b-man` has joined #mer | 05:28 | |
| *** panda-z has joined #mer | 05:32 | |
| *** ljp has joined #mer | 05:35 | |
| situ | Morning everyon | 05:42 |
| *** panda-z has quit IRC | 05:42 | |
| *** Jucato has quit IRC | 05:44 | |
| *** ljp has quit IRC | 05:44 | |
| *** panda-z has joined #mer | 05:46 | |
| *** panda-z has quit IRC | 05:48 | |
| *** ljp has joined #mer | 05:50 | |
| *** panda-z has joined #mer | 05:51 | |
| Stskeeps | morn situ, ljp | 05:54 |
| *** sniffingratty has joined #mer | 06:04 | |
| sniffingratty | hey guys, I just posted on this blog and I think it sums up my thoughts. what are your reactions/advice? http://post404.com/2012/07/my-nokia-maemo-story-2/ I am just looking for a easy to use device that can sync my contacts and calendar, mass storage, and qwerty. I don't want to give my life to google's cloud, use windows, or Apple- is that too much to ask (apparently) After scouring forums, finally I heard about N900 and | 06:05 |
| sniffingratty | even put up with the epoxy fix, but looking a bit deeper into syncevolution it seems that this is not going to be a solution for a non-developer like me. It's just so sad to see people giving up on something that is so close to what I (and I assume thousands of other people like me) need. I guess I am stuck with windows and my palm :(. Or maybe I'll switch to apple and try to figure out typing on a screen. Is there a solution o | 06:05 |
| sniffingratty | Maybe a thread on maemo.org with a way to setup PC/N900 syncing that someone like me could understand? Maybe a different device? Heck, I have been getting by with the Palm Treo/outlook 2003 winXP setup I have now for 5 years; the linux world must have something better than that! | 06:05 |
| *** panda-z has quit IRC | 06:06 | |
| Stskeeps | sniffingratty: talk.maemo.org might be a good place for you | 06:06 |
| *** panda-z has joined #mer | 06:06 | |
| Stskeeps | we work on a software core here, so it's a bit far from end user devices | 06:07 |
| sniffingratty | oh, sorry. i have been on talk.memo.com but they don't have a user friendly syncevolution solution. what do you guys use? | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | that's more likely to be in a higher layer, like the ui | 06:10 |
| sniffingratty | so what would I search for? | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | well, for me n9 works pretty nicely | 06:13 |
| sniffingratty | isn't n9 windows? and no qwerty? | 06:16 |
| sniffingratty | I really suck at typing on screens | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | nah | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | it's maemo6 | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | the on screen keyboard is quite good | 06:17 |
| sniffingratty | so what is all this about the unholy marriage between noika and windows? so the n9 can sync with evolution and it's easy to setup? | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | you'd have to research that :) | 06:18 |
| * Stskeeps has to go, boarding plane | 06:18 | |
| sniffingratty | have a nice flight | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | good luck in finding a good device | 06:19 |
| sniffingratty | ty, when i do I'll post my discovery for all to see! | 06:20 |
| *** Siosm has joined #mer | 06:21 | |
| sniffingratty | what devices do other people use for USB-PC syncing? | 06:23 |
| *** Siosm has quit IRC | 06:25 | |
| *** kimitake_ has joined #mer | 06:30 | |
| *** kimitake has quit IRC | 06:30 | |
| *** djinni has quit IRC | 06:35 | |
| *** djinni has joined #mer | 06:36 | |
| *** VDVsx has quit IRC | 06:38 | |
| sniffingratty | what do you do for mobile device-PC syncing? I'm trying to figure out something better than the Palm Treo/outlook 2003 winXP setup I have now | 06:44 |
| *** sonach has quit IRC | 06:46 | |
| *** sonach has joined #mer | 06:47 | |
| *** VDVsx has joined #mer | 06:53 | |
| *** plundstr has joined #mer | 06:55 | |
| *** VDVsx has quit IRC | 06:59 | |
| *** harha has joined #mer | 07:04 | |
| *** sonach has quit IRC | 07:05 | |
| *** alien_ has joined #mer | 07:07 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 07:07 | |
| *** dakovaci has quit IRC | 07:09 | |
| *** pohly has joined #mer | 07:10 | |
| *** calvaris has joined #mer | 07:10 | |
| *** VDVsx has joined #mer | 07:11 | |
| *** harha has quit IRC | 07:13 | |
| *** harha has joined #mer | 07:13 | |
| *** sonach has joined #mer | 07:16 | |
| *** blauzahl has joined #mer | 07:18 | |
| *** sniffingratty has quit IRC | 07:18 | |
| *** plfiorini has quit IRC | 07:19 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 07:22 | |
| *** kostaja has joined #mer | 07:22 | |
| *** kostaja has left #mer | 07:23 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 07:32 | |
| *** veskuh has joined #mer | 07:32 | |
| *** cxl000 has joined #mer | 07:33 | |
| *** calvaris has quit IRC | 07:33 | |
| *** calvaris has joined #mer | 07:38 | |
| *** popey has joined #mer | 07:38 | |
| *** harha has quit IRC | 07:44 | |
| *** niqt has joined #mer | 07:47 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 07:54 | |
| *** phinaliumz has joined #mer | 07:56 | |
| *** panda-z has quit IRC | 07:57 | |
| *** Ian-- has quit IRC | 07:57 | |
| *** icota has joined #mer | 07:58 | |
| *** jpetersen has joined #mer | 07:58 | |
| *** panda-z has joined #mer | 08:00 | |
| *** MikaT has quit IRC | 08:01 | |
| *** gabriel9|work has joined #mer | 08:03 | |
| *** MikaT has joined #mer | 08:03 | |
| *** mikhas has joined #mer | 08:08 | |
| *** stefan_schmidt_w has joined #mer | 08:08 | |
| *** kontio has joined #mer | 08:17 | |
| *** MuJ has quit IRC | 08:18 | |
| *** blam_ has quit IRC | 08:22 | |
| *** dakovaci has joined #mer | 08:24 | |
| *** kallela has joined #mer | 08:31 | |
| *** andre__ has joined #mer | 08:32 | |
| *** himamura has joined #mer | 08:35 | |
| *** jeremyb has joined #mer | 08:40 | |
| jeremyb | andre__: how do I edit http://merproject.org/ ? | 08:40 |
| jeremyb | (or submit a pull req or whatever) | 08:40 |
| andre__ | jeremyb: that's a good question. Stskeeps should know | 08:41 |
| andre__ | dgreaves doesn't seem to be around... | 08:41 |
| * jeremyb points to http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere | 08:41 | |
| andre__ | what's wrong? | 08:41 |
| jeremyb | http://merproject.org/about.html also needs fixing | 08:41 |
| jeremyb | > Click here to participate in our mailing lists - any questions about Mer welcome - or you can join us on irc for live chat | 08:42 |
| andre__ | hmm, I should keep that page open. I also always do that wrong (using too much "click here") | 08:42 |
| jeremyb | heh | 08:42 |
| *** reels has joined #mer | 08:45 | |
| *** pirut has joined #mer | 08:49 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 08:49 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 08:50 | |
| *** rdqfdx has joined #mer | 08:50 | |
| *** sonach has left #mer | 08:51 | |
| *** panda-z has quit IRC | 08:52 | |
| *** panda-z has joined #mer | 08:54 | |
| *** yunta has joined #mer | 08:58 | |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 08:58 | |
| *** niqt has joined #mer | 08:58 | |
| *** otep has quit IRC | 09:04 | |
| *** otep has joined #mer | 09:05 | |
| *** e8johan has joined #mer | 09:07 | |
| *** trbs has joined #mer | 09:08 | |
| *** rc__ has quit IRC | 09:11 | |
| *** lamikr has joined #mer | 09:12 | |
| *** yunta has quit IRC | 09:15 | |
| *** notmart has joined #mer | 09:25 | |
| *** notmart has joined #mer | 09:25 | |
| *** jpetersen_ has joined #mer | 09:28 | |
| *** reels_ has joined #mer | 09:30 | |
| *** reels has quit IRC | 09:31 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 09:31 | |
| *** jpetersen has quit IRC | 09:31 | |
| *** jstaniek_QFridge has joined #mer | 09:36 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 09:37 | |
| *** rcg-work has joined #mer | 09:42 | |
| *** jpetrell has joined #mer | 09:45 | |
| *** slaine has joined #mer | 09:46 | |
| slaine | Big week | 09:47 |
| *** slaine has quit IRC | 09:50 | |
| *** slaine has joined #mer | 09:50 | |
| Stskeeps | yup | 09:51 |
| Bostik | ah yes, should get the train tickets to Hki already | 09:52 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: Good luck to you all, exciting times waiting in the wings :) | 09:54 |
| *** dakovaci has quit IRC | 09:55 | |
| *** imunsie has quit IRC | 10:00 | |
| *** mpthx has joined #mer | 10:01 | |
| *** reels__ has joined #mer | 10:05 | |
| *** reels_ has quit IRC | 10:05 | |
| *** sledges has quit IRC | 10:06 | |
| *** sledges has joined #mer | 10:06 | |
| *** dakovaci has joined #mer | 10:06 | |
| *** mpthx has quit IRC | 10:07 | |
| *** harha has joined #mer | 10:09 | |
| *** Attie has joined #mer | 10:10 | |
| *** vgrade-n9 has joined #mer | 10:19 | |
| *** vgrade-n9 has quit IRC | 10:20 | |
| *** jukkaeklund has joined #mer | 10:21 | |
| *** auri__ has joined #mer | 10:23 | |
| *** lizardo has joined #mer | 10:28 | |
| *** M4rtinK has joined #mer | 10:29 | |
| *** schmooster has joined #mer | 10:30 | |
| *** Jucato has joined #mer | 10:34 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 10:34 | |
| sledges | I thought that will be a picture of a car |) | 10:35 |
| sledges | :D good morning | 10:35 |
| sledges | (still speaking while sleeping ;)) | 10:35 |
| *** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 10:41 | |
| *** alien_ has quit IRC | 10:43 | |
| *** M4rtinK has joined #mer | 10:44 | |
| *** fk_lx has joined #mer | 10:54 | |
| *** vgrade-n9 has joined #mer | 10:56 | |
| *** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 11:00 | |
| *** phaeron has quit IRC | 11:01 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 11:02 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 11:02 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 11:02 | |
| *** fcorrea has joined #mer | 11:03 | |
| *** M4rtinK has joined #mer | 11:03 | |
| *** fk_lx has quit IRC | 11:04 | |
| *** arcean has joined #mer | 11:09 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 11:12 | |
| *** fk_lx has joined #mer | 11:12 | |
| *** vgrade-n9 has quit IRC | 11:22 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin has joined #mer | 11:22 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 11:24 | |
| *** harha has quit IRC | 11:28 | |
| *** aportale has joined #mer | 11:29 | |
| *** harha has joined #mer | 11:30 | |
| *** harha has joined #mer | 11:31 | |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 11:31 | |
| *** otep_ has joined #mer | 11:32 | |
| *** otep has quit IRC | 11:32 | |
| *** niqt has joined #mer | 11:35 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 11:35 | |
| *** reels__ has quit IRC | 11:39 | |
| *** cat_x301 has joined #mer | 11:41 | |
| *** reels__ has joined #mer | 11:44 | |
| *** harha has joined #mer | 11:44 | |
| *** MuJ has joined #mer | 11:49 | |
| *** harha has quit IRC | 11:50 | |
| Stskeeps | afternoon | 11:50 |
| Bostik | 'noon | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | finland is surprisingily nice today | 11:51 |
| * Bostik peeks out | 11:52 | |
| Bostik | nah | 11:52 |
| JvD_ | oh.. sun is shining | 11:53 |
| sledges | is all because of slushy Slush! | 11:55 |
| r-A | seems to be raining | 11:56 |
| *** otep_ has quit IRC | 11:57 | |
| *** vgrade_ has joined #mer | 11:58 | |
| *** rodrigo_golive has joined #mer | 11:58 | |
| timoph | not that bad in Tampere | 11:59 |
| *** yunta has joined #mer | 11:59 | |
| *** otep has joined #mer | 11:59 | |
| *** panda-z has quit IRC | 12:02 | |
| *** Attie has quit IRC | 12:02 | |
| *** Attie has joined #mer | 12:03 | |
| *** panda-z has joined #mer | 12:06 | |
| *** harha has joined #mer | 12:06 | |
| *** icota has quit IRC | 12:08 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 12:08 | |
| *** otep has quit IRC | 12:10 | |
| *** Attie has quit IRC | 12:14 | |
| *** Attie has joined #mer | 12:14 | |
| *** cat_x301 has quit IRC | 12:17 | |
| *** jstaniek_QFridge has quit IRC | 12:17 | |
| *** KaIRC has joined #mer | 12:21 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 12:21 | |
| *** e8johan has left #mer | 12:22 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin has quit IRC | 12:29 | |
| kontio | vesse, fyi I created a new request: https://github.com/leonidas/qa-reports/pull/17 | 12:30 |
| *** DocScrutinizer06 is now known as DocScrutinizer05 | 12:31 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin has joined #mer | 12:31 | |
| *** jpetrell has quit IRC | 12:36 | |
| *** ALoGeNo has joined #mer | 12:44 | |
| *** otep has joined #mer | 12:54 | |
| *** dakovaci has quit IRC | 12:55 | |
| *** phaeron has joined #mer | 12:57 | |
| *** CosmoHill has joined #mer | 12:58 | |
| *** kostaja has joined #mer | 13:00 | |
| *** kostaja has left #mer | 13:00 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #mer | 13:09 | |
| *** Venemo has quit IRC | 13:09 | |
| *** Venemo has joined #mer | 13:09 | |
| *** Venemo has left #mer | 13:09 | |
| *** InformatiQ has joined #mer | 13:13 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 13:17 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 13:17 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 13:17 | |
| *** _moguriso has quit IRC | 13:19 | |
| *** _moguriso has joined #mer | 13:19 | |
| *** jstaniek_QFridge has joined #mer | 13:21 | |
| *** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 13:28 | |
| *** M4rtinK has joined #mer | 13:28 | |
| *** merder has quit IRC | 13:28 | |
| *** fk_lx has left #mer | 13:34 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin has quit IRC | 13:34 | |
| *** thetet has joined #mer | 13:35 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 13:39 | |
| *** gabrbedd has joined #mer | 13:43 | |
| *** panda-z has quit IRC | 13:46 | |
| *** rcg-work has quit IRC | 13:46 | |
| *** panda-z has joined #mer | 13:47 | |
| *** arcean has joined #mer | 13:47 | |
| auri__ | lbt_: ping | 13:47 |
| *** SfietKonstantin has joined #mer | 13:52 | |
| *** jukkaeklund has quit IRC | 13:55 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 13:57 | |
| *** FSCV has joined #mer | 13:58 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin has quit IRC | 13:59 | |
| *** rcg-work has joined #mer | 14:05 | |
| *** InformatiQ has quit IRC | 14:12 | |
| lbt_ | auri__: pong | 14:16 |
| *** panda-z has quit IRC | 14:17 | |
| *** thetet has quit IRC | 14:17 | |
| auri__ | lbt_: got 5 min? | 14:28 |
| *** pirut has quit IRC | 14:30 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 14:32 | |
| lbt_ | auri__: sporadically, yes | 14:39 |
| lbt_ | talk at me :) | 14:39 |
| auri__ | well, in the Virtual Machine options page in Creator, we have fields for username and private key | 14:40 |
| auri__ | I am thinking of removing them since messing around with them may break Creator completely | 14:40 |
| *** niqt has quit IRC | 14:41 | |
| auri__ | now I wanted to know if and why would a developer log in to the VM with an username other than mersdk | 14:41 |
| lbt_ | no reason | 14:41 |
| auri__ | for eg: why would anyone want to build/deploy as root? | 14:41 |
| auri__ | or would anyone want to do that | 14:41 |
| lbt_ | sudo solves that | 14:41 |
| lbt_ | and not really part of QtC | 14:42 |
| auri__ | the other thing is that devs need not worry about the private key file | 14:42 |
| lbt_ | ie the target update is done via the webapp | 14:42 |
| lbt_ | agree - the stated requisite is that the user's account should be able to ssh to itself | 14:42 |
| auri__ | I will generate an ssh pair for QtC and add that to authorized_keys so that the workflow is smooth for them | 14:42 |
| auri__ | no more strange ssh connection errors | 14:43 |
| auri__ | you ok with that? | 14:43 |
| lbt_ | well - if you mess with a users ssh setup then you take all responsibility for security breaches :D | 14:43 |
| lbt_ | which is the problem :) | 14:43 |
| lbt_ | I agree that would make it simple | 14:44 |
| *** veskuh_ has joined #mer | 14:44 | |
| *** veskuh_ has quit IRC | 14:44 | |
| *** choffee has quit IRC | 14:44 | |
| lbt_ | but that ^^ is my concern | 14:44 |
| lbt_ | so lets see if I'm being paranoid | 14:44 |
| Bostik | dedicated SSH key, under its own name; then use 'ssh -i $KEYNAME' to connect to vm? | 14:44 |
| Bostik | that way you wouldn't accidentally touch the usual ssh keys | 14:45 |
| *** choffee has joined #mer | 14:45 | |
| lbt_ | Bostik: the VM mersdk user is mapped to use your $HOME | 14:47 |
| lbt_ | via shared folders | 14:47 |
| Bostik | aha | 14:47 |
| lbt_ | so essentially this sets up localhost ssh equivalence | 14:47 |
| lbt_ | auri__: I think having a button that does that for you and allowing the user to push it would be OK | 14:48 |
| *** phinaliumz has quit IRC | 14:49 | |
| lbt_ | personally I'd hate it - I have a complex ssh setup that I need to have confidence in for secure infra support | 14:49 |
| Bostik | $something going behind my back and doing things to ~/.ssh/* ? | 14:50 |
| lbt_ | so I suggest leaving it as it is but providing a 'create new ssh key (.ssh/id_rsa_mersdk) and ad it to authorised_keys ' button that also | 14:50 |
| Bostik | ew, I'd be pretty badly put off | 14:50 |
| lbt_ | s/that also// | 14:50 |
| *** FSCV has quit IRC | 14:51 | |
| lbt_ | Bostik: but having a button with explanation? (which you and I wouldn't use) | 14:51 |
| lbt_ | off to rehearse ... o/ | 14:52 |
| Bostik | better way certainly, as then it's an informed decision | 14:52 |
| *** VDVsx has quit IRC | 15:05 | |
| *** schmooster has quit IRC | 15:25 | |
| *** VDVsx has joined #mer | 15:26 | |
| *** tanty has quit IRC | 15:30 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer | 15:31 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 15:38 | |
| *** jstaniek_QFridge has quit IRC | 15:49 | |
| *** jpetrell has joined #mer | 15:50 | |
| *** tg has quit IRC | 15:52 | |
| *** harha has quit IRC | 15:56 | |
| *** SouL_ has joined #mer | 15:56 | |
| *** faenil has joined #mer | 15:57 | |
| *** tg has joined #mer | 16:01 | |
| *** tg has quit IRC | 16:06 | |
| *** tg has joined #mer | 16:14 | |
| *** stefan_schmidt_w has quit IRC | 16:17 | |
| *** yunta has quit IRC | 16:17 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 16:22 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 16:22 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 16:22 | |
| *** kontio has quit IRC | 16:23 | |
| *** lamikr has quit IRC | 16:31 | |
| *** jpwhiting_ is now known as jpwhiting | 16:32 | |
| *** jpwhiting has joined #mer | 16:32 | |
| *** linux_tom has joined #mer | 16:39 | |
| *** linux_tom has quit IRC | 16:45 | |
| *** gabriel9|work has quit IRC | 16:48 | |
| *** linux_tom has joined #mer | 16:48 | |
| *** slaine has quit IRC | 16:49 | |
| *** rdqfdx has quit IRC | 16:50 | |
| *** veskuh has quit IRC | 16:51 | |
| *** pocek has quit IRC | 16:53 | |
| *** __kozak__|work1 has quit IRC | 16:55 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 16:56 | |
| *** icota has joined #mer | 16:59 | |
| *** Jaded has joined #mer | 17:02 | |
| *** Jaded has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** Jaded has joined #mer | 17:02 | |
| *** NIN101 has joined #mer | 17:02 | |
| *** Jade has quit IRC | 17:04 | |
| *** fcorrea has quit IRC | 17:09 | |
| *** xmlich02 has joined #mer | 17:10 | |
| *** rubdos has joined #mer | 17:11 | |
| *** pohly has quit IRC | 17:11 | |
| *** fcorrea has joined #mer | 17:11 | |
| *** pohly has joined #mer | 17:12 | |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 17:16 | |
| *** SouL_ has left #mer | 17:16 | |
| *** NIN101 has joined #mer | 17:19 | |
| *** kontio has joined #mer | 17:23 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 17:24 | |
| *** kontio has quit IRC | 17:25 | |
| *** arcean has joined #mer | 17:26 | |
| *** pohly has quit IRC | 17:28 | |
| *** cat_x301 has joined #mer | 17:32 | |
| *** ced117 has joined #mer | 17:34 | |
| *** AndreasWatch has joined #mer | 17:35 | |
| *** rcg-work has quit IRC | 17:35 | |
| *** sledges has quit IRC | 17:37 | |
| *** sledges has joined #mer | 17:37 | |
| *** ajalkane has joined #mer | 17:39 | |
| *** AndreasWatch has quit IRC | 17:39 | |
| *** kontio has joined #mer | 17:41 | |
| *** AndreasWatch has joined #mer | 17:41 | |
| *** cristi has joined #mer | 17:42 | |
| *** plfiorini has joined #mer | 17:52 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 17:53 | |
| linux_tom | hey, how do I specify arch for cortex A8? | 17:55 |
| *** AndreasWatch has quit IRC | 17:56 | |
| *** AndreasWatch has joined #mer | 17:56 | |
| *** calvaris has quit IRC | 17:56 | |
| linux_tom | Figured it out. It's armv7el/armv7l ( I'm new to arm ) | 17:59 |
| *** arcean has joined #mer | 17:59 | |
| *** InformatiQ has joined #mer | 17:59 | |
| *** khetzal has joined #mer | 18:00 | |
| *** jpetersen_ has quit IRC | 18:00 | |
| *** schmooster has joined #mer | 18:02 | |
| *** phdeswer has quit IRC | 18:05 | |
| *** rdqfdx has joined #mer | 18:06 | |
| *** linux_tom has quit IRC | 18:09 | |
| *** thetet has joined #mer | 18:11 | |
| *** linux_tom has joined #mer | 18:14 | |
| *** mikhas has quit IRC | 18:15 | |
| *** auri__ has quit IRC | 18:21 | |
| *** aportale has left #mer | 18:31 | |
| linux_tom | hi, I'm trying to compile an image for armv7. I keep getting this error : "Error <config>: Invalid arch armv7hl for repository. Valid arches: i486" | 18:32 |
| linux_tom | any help? | 18:32 |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 18:36 | |
| *** NIN101 has joined #mer | 18:36 | |
| *** tripzero has quit IRC | 18:37 | |
| linux_tom | sorted. for future reference change i486 to armv7hl in ks file. | 18:38 |
| *** tripzero has joined #mer | 18:38 | |
| *** Jay_BEE has joined #mer | 18:38 | |
| *** nsuffys has joined #mer | 18:39 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 18:45 | |
| Stskeeps | linux_tom: yup | 18:47 |
| *** Attie has quit IRC | 18:49 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 18:52 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 18:52 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 18:52 | |
| *** InformatiQ has quit IRC | 18:53 | |
| *** yunta has joined #mer | 18:54 | |
| *** linux_tom has quit IRC | 18:59 | |
| *** CosmoHill has quit IRC | 19:01 | |
| *** CosmoHill has joined #mer | 19:02 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin is now known as jfr_Sfiet_Konsta | 19:06 | |
| *** jfr_Sfiet_Konsta is now known as jfr_SKonstantin | 19:06 | |
| *** jfr_SKonstantin is now known as Sfiet_Konstantin | 19:07 | |
| *** jpetrell has quit IRC | 19:08 | |
| *** antarctician has joined #mer | 19:23 | |
| antarctician | hi everyone, sorry if the question is a bit irrelevant: anyone has some knowledge about the sailfish os's license? | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | you'd have to ask Jolla about that, but it's based on Mer, so you can pretty much assume the Mer part is open source :) | 19:25 |
| antarctician | I can't find much info about the Mer's license. Is Jolla able to close source the Mer core? | 19:27 |
| antarctician | I understand that the Jolla's UI is proprietary, but can't find anything about the core(Mer) | 19:27 |
| *** rcg has joined #mer | 19:30 | |
| Stskeeps | Mer's fully open source | 19:32 |
| andre__ | guess that needs fixing of https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181 to get a complete list of licenses of all components | 19:32 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 181 in .Release-tools "Publish listing of package licenses along with each Mer release" [Task,New] | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | and there's no good benefit from closing sourcing it anyway, you loose the benefit of collaboration | 19:32 |
| *** jstaniek has joined #mer | 19:32 | |
| Stskeeps | Mer's an independent project from Jolla :) | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | antarctician: how do you hope to use Mer? | 19:35 |
| antarctician | Idk, I'll try to install it on my n900 and later on a raspi if I can, and see what I can do... Just to play around for now. | 19:36 |
| antarctician | I'm really interested in contributing to open source mobile os's other than android | 19:37 |
| antarctician | :) | 19:37 |
| *** furikku has quit IRC | 19:43 | |
| ali1234 | Stskeeps: as a native english speaker i read that as "Mer is an independent project and is from [made by] Jolla" - which i guess is the opposite of what you meant | 19:43 |
| Jope | he meant the opposite yes :-) | 19:45 |
| Jope | jolla didn't make mer | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | ali1234: yeah, sorry :P | 19:45 |
| *** harha has joined #mer | 19:45 | |
| * Stskeeps should get some sleep | 19:46 | |
| ali1234 | yeah, it just made me do a double take and wonder if i missed something :) | 19:47 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: and Jolla folks good luck for tomoorrow | 19:49 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, just be sure to get some rest the day before SLUSH :P no mistakes that day :D | 19:50 |
| ajalkane | mistakes are okay in a live performance. You'd not want to go to a concert where it's all playback without the human element of mistakes :P | 19:51 |
| faenil | ajalkane, sure I didn't mean that :) | 19:51 |
| faenil | ajalkane, but mistakes like leaking info because you're tired could be a problem :D | 19:51 |
| ajalkane | then join me in saying, sleep little, be a bit hangover, and deliver an awesome event :-D | 19:52 |
| ajalkane | ooh... I wouldn't mind a little leakes personally :) | 19:52 |
| faenil | I'm sure that won't happen though :) | 19:52 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, oh and about that, what about publishing something like a little piece of a corner of the UI before SLUSH? | 19:52 |
| faenil | like tomorrow | 19:52 |
| faenil | people would start going crazy thinking about all the possibilities :) | 19:53 |
| faenil | maybe I should talk to jukka about that | 19:53 |
| ali1234 | implying there is some juicy information to be leaked? | 19:53 |
| antarctician | I +1 to that :D | 19:53 |
| ajalkane | maybe, like, one pixel of the UI? | 19:53 |
| ajalkane | :) | 19:53 |
| faenil | ajalkane, yeah something like that :P | 19:53 |
| faenil | the icon of the clock? :) | 19:53 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, okay I won't go on, I'm just too excited, sorry man ^^ | 19:54 |
| *** SouL_ has joined #mer | 19:54 | |
| antarctician | there is still a possibility that someone, somewhere forgets a phone or something :P | 19:55 |
| antarctician | Finns won't get drunk that easy though | 19:55 |
| faenil | antarctician, I hope that won't happen...I hate leaks :P | 19:55 |
| ali1234 | it never hurt apple | 19:56 |
| ajalkane | Finns only drop accidentally their phones to toilets and flush them while drunk. If you want leaks, go to the end of the sewer to fish | 19:56 |
| antarctician | because they keep on doing the same things, so it's not that "new" | 19:56 |
| antarctician | sewerfish os | 19:57 |
| iekku | antarctician, i don't think that's a possibility | 19:57 |
| iekku | leak i mean | 19:57 |
| antarctician | Yeah I know i'm just kidding :) | 19:58 |
| faenil | iekku, I'm going crazy, can you please set the clock 24h later ? :D | 19:58 |
| iekku | faenil, i can do that tomorrow :P | 19:58 |
| faenil | let's say at least 24h :P | 19:58 |
| faenil | iekku, alright...thanks XD lol | 19:59 |
| CosmoHill | hi iekku | 19:59 |
| iekku | tomorrow evening... | 19:59 |
| iekku | faenil, so you miss the launch | 19:59 |
| faenil | iekku, grrrr | 19:59 |
| iekku | CosmoHill, ahoy | 19:59 |
| iekku | faenil, Stskeeps is too nice to tease, so i'm helping :P | 19:59 |
| faenil | iekku, hahaah | 20:00 |
| faenil | though I noticed Stskeeps got a lot nicer in the last week | 20:00 |
| faenil | either he's super excited, or... :P | 20:00 |
| faenil | or I don't know xD | 20:01 |
| *** gabriel9 has joined #mer | 20:03 | |
| *** AmazingLasagna has quit IRC | 20:05 | |
| *** ced117 has quit IRC | 20:13 | |
| *** SouL_ has left #mer | 20:16 | |
| *** talavis has quit IRC | 20:17 | |
| *** talavis has joined #mer | 20:17 | |
| *** SouL_ has joined #mer | 20:20 | |
| *** phaeron has quit IRC | 20:39 | |
| *** arcean has joined #mer | 20:41 | |
| *** harha1 has joined #mer | 20:41 | |
| *** harha has quit IRC | 20:44 | |
| *** kontio has quit IRC | 20:44 | |
| *** diegoyam has quit IRC | 20:49 | |
| *** diegoyam_ has quit IRC | 20:49 | |
| *** Skry has joined #mer | 20:49 | |
| *** skippy311 is now known as skippy|wants_inv | 20:49 | |
| *** antarctician has quit IRC | 20:51 | |
| *** dedis has quit IRC | 20:52 | |
| *** SouL_ has left #mer | 20:53 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 20:54 | |
| *** lizardo has quit IRC | 20:55 | |
| *** kylanpaj has quit IRC | 20:57 | |
| *** notmart has quit IRC | 21:00 | |
| *** jpetersen has joined #mer | 21:01 | |
| *** kylanpaj has joined #mer | 21:03 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 21:07 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 21:07 | |
| *** lbt_ has joined #mer | 21:07 | |
| *** rubdos has quit IRC | 21:08 | |
| *** pvilja1 has joined #mer | 21:10 | |
| *** pvilja has quit IRC | 21:12 | |
| *** jpetersen has quit IRC | 21:17 | |
| *** cxl000 has quit IRC | 21:17 | |
| *** pvilja has joined #mer | 21:19 | |
| *** skippy|wants_inv is now known as skippy311 | 21:20 | |
| *** SouL_ has joined #mer | 21:21 | |
| *** pvilja1 has quit IRC | 21:21 | |
| *** ajalkane has quit IRC | 21:24 | |
| *** rodrigo_golive has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| *** talavis has quit IRC | 21:28 | |
| *** Ian-- has joined #mer | 21:32 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin has joined #mer | 21:36 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC | 21:36 | |
| *** icota has quit IRC | 21:47 | |
| *** NIN101 has quit IRC | 21:49 | |
| *** cristi has quit IRC | 21:50 | |
| *** phaeron has joined #mer | 21:50 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin has quit IRC | 21:56 | |
| *** Jaded has quit IRC | 21:58 | |
| *** Jade has joined #mer | 22:02 | |
| *** Jade has quit IRC | 22:02 | |
| *** Jade has joined #mer | 22:02 | |
| *** nick has joined #mer | 22:06 | |
| *** nick is now known as Guest17475 | 22:07 | |
| *** tanty has joined #mer | 22:13 | |
| *** talavis has joined #mer | 22:19 | |
| *** SouL_ has left #mer | 22:21 | |
| *** SouL_ has joined #mer | 22:22 | |
| *** blam_ has joined #mer | 22:23 | |
| *** arnaud1 has quit IRC | 22:35 | |
| *** himamura has quit IRC | 22:41 | |
| *** arnaud1 has joined #mer | 22:49 | |
| *** khetzal has quit IRC | 23:00 | |
| *** __kozak__|work has joined #mer | 23:01 | |
| *** SouL_ has left #mer | 23:04 | |
| *** shmerl has joined #mer | 23:05 | |
| shmerl | Hi! | 23:05 |
| *** SouL_ has joined #mer | 23:05 | |
| CosmoHill | hi | 23:06 |
| CosmoHill | wb SouL_ | 23:06 |
| SouL_ | Hi friends | 23:07 |
| *** gabrbedd has quit IRC | 23:10 | |
| shmerl | Any idea how easy it will be in Mer derivaties to switch between busybox and binutils? | 23:11 |
| shmerl | Mer can ship both. | 23:11 |
| *** harha1 has quit IRC | 23:11 | |
| CosmoHill | are you thinking of busybox in an initramfs and binutils once mounted? | 23:12 |
| shmerl | I mean to replace one for the other. Or can they coexist? | 23:12 |
| shmerl | On Harmattan it was a mess. | 23:12 |
| CosmoHill | iirc busybox is a single binary | 23:13 |
| shmerl | Let's say Jolla's Sailfish on their device will come with busybox. | 23:13 |
| shmerl | I'm not really a fan of it. Will it be possible to replace it with binutils safely? | 23:13 |
| CosmoHill | if you like something like "ls" to busybox it knows what action to do | 23:13 |
| CosmoHill | but you can also provide it as an argument | 23:13 |
| shmerl | I mean from Mer perspective are they flexibly changable? | 23:13 |
| shmerl | I think busybox uses its own ls. | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 23:14 |
| shmerl | And it's not the same as binutils ls. | 23:14 |
| shmerl | That's what I'd like to avoid. | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | /bin/ls as a link to busybox, not as a binary | 23:14 |
| shmerl | Yep | 23:14 |
| CosmoHill | i think you could install binutils and busybox | 23:14 |
| shmerl | I mean dependencies wise, is there a safe path to remove busybox and put binutils isntead? | 23:15 |
| CosmoHill | you';d have to run busybox as "busybox --ls" or something | 23:15 |
| CosmoHill | wait, what do you want to replace with what? | 23:15 |
| shmerl | Or if the system comes with busybox hardwired it won't work? | 23:15 |
| shmerl | I want to avoid using busybox | 23:15 |
| CosmoHill | oh okau | 23:15 |
| shmerl | Since I prefer binutils. | 23:15 |
| CosmoHill | sorry, i thought you wanted to replace binutils with busybox | 23:15 |
| shmerl | But if some Mer derivative comes with busybox - that's what I'm trying to figure out. | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | i think if you install binutils it will replace all the links used by busybox | 23:16 |
| shmerl | Hopefully. In Harmattan it wasn't possible. | 23:16 |
| CosmoHill | so the /bin/ls link to busybox will be replaced with the binutils binary | 23:16 |
| shmerl | I worry more about some hard dependencies in the derived systems. | 23:17 |
| CosmoHill | iirc busybox is designed to be compatible with binutils | 23:18 |
| shmerl | Sine bysbox and binutils aren't 100% compatible. | 23:18 |
| CosmoHill | oh oay | 23:18 |
| shmerl | Ah, I see. | 23:18 |
| shmerl | busybox is surely more narrow. | 23:18 |
| CosmoHill | what's not compatable | 23:18 |
| CosmoHill | I';m thinking busybox supports less than binutils, and binutils will support all busybox does | 23:18 |
| shmerl | If so, than it's good. | 23:18 |
| shmerl | Then it should be replaceable without any breakage. | 23:19 |
| CosmoHill | it's the dependancies you need to worry about now | 23:19 |
| CosmoHill | can you do a static build of binutils? | 23:20 |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 23:20 | |
| shmerl | Probably possible. Since Sailfish is an unknown - I worry about potential issues. | 23:21 |
| CosmoHill | sailfish? | 23:21 |
| shmerl | That's Jolla's OS name. | 23:21 |
| shmerl | The one they are putting on their upcoming handset. | 23:21 |
| shmerl | Or "codename". | 23:21 |
| shmerl | They are going to talk about it on Nov 21. | 23:22 |
| shmerl | It's uses Mer as a core. | 23:22 |
| *** FSCV has joined #mer | 23:27 | |
| CosmoHill | cool | 23:29 |
| shmerl | Feel free to add some questions which will be sent to them after the event: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87764 | 23:30 |
| shmerl | (just avoid duplicates) | 23:30 |
| *** popey has quit IRC | 23:37 | |
| *** shmerl has quit IRC | 23:45 | |
| *** apostrophe has joined #mer | 23:50 | |
| CosmoHill | I'm not on the forum, only irc | 23:51 |
| *** _xnt14 has quit IRC | 23:52 | |
| *** _xnt14 has joined #mer | 23:56 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!