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| sonach | morning all | 00:43 |
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| chriadam | gmorning sonach | 00:45 |
| w00t | the only good morning is a dead one | 00:47 |
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| iekku | morning | 04:10 |
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| situ | Morning all | 05:55 |
| chriadam | gmorning situ | 06:02 |
| situ | chriadam: What's up ? | 06:07 |
| chriadam | nothing, just saying good morning ;-) | 06:08 |
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| Bostik | good morning | 06:15 |
| chriadam | good morning Bostik | 06:16 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: i kind of wonder how they get gold working on ubuntu latest | 06:17 |
| Bostik | oh? | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | well, as in, there must be the linker-plugin setting or something in use | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | the -fuse-ld=gold patch is not applied | 06:17 |
| Bostik | oh great | 06:18 |
| Bostik | a really quick test... | 06:19 |
| Stskeeps | so i think there's a gcc ./configure setting missing | 06:20 |
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| Bostik | hmh, tested with wrong gcc version, this _was_ 4.7 | 06:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok, 4.6 is the one i'm wodnering about | 06:22 |
| Bostik | apt-get source ... already going | 06:23 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: you're right; the primary build file (debian/rules) calls into debian/rules2, and _that_ file has the gold switches ("--enable-gold ... --with-plugin-ld=ld.gold") commented out | 06:28 |
| Stskeeps | fun | 06:31 |
| Bostik | looks like a late regression | 06:33 |
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| Stskeeps | so if i enable those, i'd likely get the -fuse-linker-plugin working? | 06:36 |
| Bostik | I can oly hope so | 06:37 |
| Stskeeps | worth a shot | 06:38 |
| Bostik | remember to use --enable-ld=default just in case, so gold won't go as default linker | 06:38 |
| Bostik | that broke things, right? | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | well | 06:39 |
| Stskeeps | not as much as i had thought | 06:40 |
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| zchydem | morning | 06:50 |
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| Stskeeps | morn zchydem, how did sdk go? | 06:51 |
| zchydem | Let's see if the little elves have fixed my problems during the night | 06:51 |
| zchydem | Stskeeps: baby steps | 06:51 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 06:51 |
| zchydem | the new vdi fixed a lot problems | 06:51 |
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| zchydem | then I found a solution for the rsa key problem and documented it to the wiki | 06:52 |
| zchydem | Now I'd like to compile my app, but it complaints about that Qt is installed wrong... | 06:52 |
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| zchydem | the QtC+SDK's qmake script tries to run ssh binary from the target is that right? | 07:06 |
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| niqt | morning | 07:37 |
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| kontio | Aard, https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-mtp/pull/1 can you please check it out? and if possible make soon a new release in osc? | 07:41 |
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| zchydem | lbt: already awake? | 08:00 |
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| Stskeeps | qt5 beta2 is out | 08:42 |
| niqt | party | 08:44 |
| zchydem | \o/ | 08:44 |
| kallela | cool! | 08:44 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: tags in qt5.git still WIP (found in qtbase and qtdeclarative, missing from the rest) | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | fun | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | well, i personally use tarballs | 08:54 |
| Bostik | I want to run the script :) | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:55 |
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| Stskeeps | so far so good for qtbase.. | 09:00 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: qt_*.pri -> qt_lib_*.pri | 09:04 |
| Bostik | oh... | 09:04 |
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| Stskeeps | (in %files) | 09:05 |
| Bostik | good to know | 09:06 |
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| * Stskeeps hugs tmpfs builds | 09:08 | |
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| Stskeeps | erm | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | weren't qmake supposed to be renamed in this one | 09:11 |
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| niqt | Stskeeps: when will be qt5 b2 in mer? | 09:28 |
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| Stskeeps | niqt: not the coming release but next one probably | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/qt5-beta2-changes.patch | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: the qdoc stuff is a bit hazy | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | (qtbase builds with that) | 09:33 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: looks nice and clean, changes really are just cleanups since b1 | 09:34 |
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| Bostik | (yeah yeah, mkspecs churn happens all the time) | 09:34 |
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| CosmoHill | hi Bostik | 09:34 |
| Bostik | hello nate | 09:36 |
| CosmoHill | :3 | 09:37 |
| lbt | zchydem: morning | 09:38 |
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| zchydem | lbt: morning.. gonna go for a lunch now | 09:50 |
| lbt | sure - ping when ready | 09:51 |
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| zchydem | ok | 09:52 |
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| sledges | good mornan! | 10:44 |
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| CosmoHill | hi sledges | 10:50 |
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| sledges | cu :) | 10:53 |
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| kontio | Aard, https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-mtp/pull/2 new request, please check, would be nice to have that soon released, since old tests.xml makes some troubles... | 11:02 |
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| kontio | vesse, ping | 11:09 |
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| zchydem | lbt: Just compiled stuff and deployed it on the device,but theme stuff doesn't seem to work | 11:16 |
| zchydem | lbt: What's the correct user for the device? Now it ran it as root, but sw is being ran as a nemo | 11:18 |
| zchydem | I mean for the device settings | 11:18 |
| zchydem | in QtC | 11:18 |
| lbt | zchydem: device should be nemo | 11:20 |
| zchydem | is there a default password for nemo or do you use keys? | 11:21 |
| kontio | nemo | 11:22 |
| zchydem | kontio: thanks! works now | 11:22 |
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| zchydem | lbt: still bothering you with the few things | 12:28 |
| lbt | please do | 12:28 |
| zchydem | So now I can deploy my app on the device, but I created a new project, which is a simple main.cpp + main.qml. It compiles ok, but when it tries to upload it to device, it gets permission denied | 12:29 |
| zchydem | lbt: it uses the exactly the same device than the one that is working | 12:29 |
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| lbt | OK | 12:30 |
| zchydem | does it require rpm packaging? IIRC it just copies stuff defined in pro file? | 12:31 |
| lbt | well, WIP | 12:31 |
| lbt | I think we need at least 2 moded | 12:31 |
| lbt | modes | 12:31 |
| lbt | package, copy rpm, install, launch | 12:31 |
| lbt | and copy binary, execute | 12:32 |
| lbt | I'm actually just doing a bit of a status review | 12:32 |
| lbt | to see where we are | 12:32 |
| zchydem | ok | 12:33 |
| lbt | so ... you're using generic linux device? | 12:34 |
| lbt | henrik_: ping | 12:35 |
| zchydem | lbt: yes and it works with other app | 12:35 |
| zchydem | this new app is very simple, like mentioned above and just tested, it compiles, packaging works and it runs on device if installin it manually | 12:37 |
| lbt | so .... any error at all ? | 12:37 |
| zchydem | Upload of file '/home/marko/Work/demo/demo' failed. The server said: 'Permission denied' | 12:37 |
| henrik_ | lbt: here | 12:39 |
| lbt | zchydem: see if the upload dir exists - iirc it uploads to /opt | 12:39 |
| lbt | henrik_: hey - so what's happening webapp side? | 12:40 |
| henrik_ | mostly testing that things work so far. | 12:41 |
| henrik_ | next should be the css and more checks | 12:41 |
| zchydem | lbt: I guess there should be a dir with app name? in /opt I mean | 12:42 |
| henrik_ | i was thinking should the webapp have simple page that does checks that for example dir permissions are correct etc. | 12:42 |
| lbt | zchydem: yes | 12:42 |
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| lbt | zchydem: I need to reset my environment to something clean :) | 12:43 |
| zchydem | lbt: nope, there isn't that | 12:43 |
| henrik_ | zchydem just had today cryptic error message "protocol error" which was actually because of /srv/mer/targets was now ownded by $USER | 12:43 |
| lbt | zchydem: bug? | 12:43 |
| lbt | henrik_: yes, I was thinking we may need to do some stuff | 12:43 |
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| zchydem | lbt: makes me wonder why the other project still works | 12:44 |
| lbt | zchydem: did you do it as root sometime? | 12:44 |
| lbt | or maybe the app dir existed | 12:44 |
| lbt | or ... :) | 12:44 |
| zchydem | :) | 12:44 |
| zchydem | I ran it as nemo | 12:44 |
| zchydem | and I can stil run the other app | 12:44 |
| zchydem | I'll try to solve this | 12:45 |
| zchydem | henrik_: please add there "Credentials" field to webapp? | 12:45 |
| lbt | zchydem: ? | 12:46 |
| lbt | credentials ? | 12:46 |
| zchydem | username & password fields | 12:46 |
| zchydem | might be usable sometimes | 12:46 |
| henrik_ | zchydem: what about .netrc approach. credentials in home dir | 12:47 |
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| w00t | lbt: is COBS flaking at all? i'm trying to run osc build, but it keeps sticking on "Preparing download ..." | 12:48 |
| lbt | w00t: will look | 12:49 |
| w00t | ta | 12:49 |
| zchydem | henrik_: maybe, but that might not be the easiest way .... | 12:49 |
| lbt | henrik_: I'd like to have a 'veryify target' button too - checks for things like mersdk user in etc/passwd | 12:49 |
| lbt | don't worry too much about login for the SDK manager | 12:51 |
| henrik_ | hmm. so what is the biggest item in the wish list? | 12:52 |
| henrik_ | lbt: btw, i sent you a pull req for sdk-setup for file:/// urls | 12:52 |
| lbt | ty | 12:52 |
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| zchydem | lbt: so how did you setup the deployment on the device? I have now device working, but do you have any custom deployment steps in QtC? | 12:56 |
| zchydem | for the device | 12:57 |
| lbt | nope - although I think I cheated and used root/nemo | 12:57 |
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| zchydem | ok, but we can't go with that.. | 12:57 |
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| lbt | no, I see in the latest git that aportale has refactored the build/deploy code to support multiple steps | 13:00 |
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| w00t | lbt: it finally proceeded | 13:01 |
| lbt | w00t: I think it's just spiking with updatestorm | 13:01 |
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| zchydem | lbt: as root it deploys it | 13:03 |
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| lbt | zchydem: bug :/ | 13:03 |
| zchydem | but it can't get any theme + etc because it should be ran as nemo | 13:03 |
| lbt | oh, I see | 13:05 |
| lbt | ssh to device and chown /opt to nemo? | 13:05 |
| lbt | and then see if that's the issue? | 13:05 |
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| zchydem | lbt: I'll try that | 13:06 |
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| zchydem | lbt: Looks like it can be make to work if the first deployment is done as a root and after that as nemo | 13:17 |
| zchydem | but the app is installed as defined in qmake e.g. binaries to /usr/bin and qml files to /usr/share/myapp | 13:18 |
| Bostik | is there a "chown" somewhere in that chain? | 13:18 |
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| zchydem | this like black magic | 13:18 |
| Bostik | that would be an easy explanation why it works in later runs | 13:18 |
| zchydem | I have no idea what happens in the background. Logging is quite minimal | 13:19 |
| * zchydem wonders if that can be enabled somehow | 13:19 | |
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| lbt | zchydem: don't forget that this is in active development and pre-alpha; be happy it works at all :) | 13:29 |
| lbt | (mine doesn't - my HOME confuses it) | 13:29 |
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| zchydem | lbt: sure:) I didn't expect one-click-installation:) | 13:33 |
| zchydem | lbt: I think it's just cool when after banging head to the wall for 1.5 days, things start to work | 13:33 |
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| lbt | OK, good | 13:34 |
| lbt | right, lunch | 13:34 |
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| vesse | kontio: yes | 13:43 |
| kontio | vesse, hi, you are qareports upstream, aren't you? | 13:44 |
| vesse | yes, you could say so :) | 13:44 |
| kontio | ok, I created a pull request last week, and wanted to ask if it can be merged? I'm about to set up a new instance for us, and would like to have the feature already upstream :-) | 13:45 |
| vesse | oh, sorry, for some reason I don't get notifications from that repo and havent thus noticed the pull request | 13:46 |
| kontio | np | 13:46 |
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| vesse | i'll take a look tonight, now i got to run to the bus. seems simple though. | 13:49 |
| kontio | ok sounds good, thx | 13:49 |
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| sledges | how to workaround nfs halt when running mer-connectivity ? | 14:36 |
| lbt | henrik_: did I actually ask about css for Desiner integration ? | 14:36 |
| sledges | (nfs rootfs) | 14:36 |
| henrik_ | lbt: what do you mean by that? | 14:38 |
| lbt | it could be a touch more space efficent :) | 14:39 |
| lbt | sledges: no idea - how are you doing nfsroot? | 14:40 |
| henrik_ | lbt: i'm not good with css at all | 14:40 |
| sledges | lbt, via kernel cmdline | 14:40 |
| lbt | henrik_: OK - maybe see if you can get some assist? | 14:41 |
| lbt | sledges: simply not tried - | 14:41 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, ^ ? :) | 14:41 |
| henrik_ | lbt: i can also shrink the current design a bit. less margings etc. | 14:42 |
| lbt | yup | 14:42 |
| ScriptRipper | Hi David | 14:43 |
| ScriptRipper | ping lbt | 14:44 |
| lbt | hey ScriptRipper | 14:44 |
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| sledges | trying to compile a new imx video driver on COBS, it curses: vivante_gal/vivante_priv.h:36:24: fatal error: HAL/gc_hal.h: No such file or directory | 16:02 |
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| sledges | would anyone know a dependency to that?.. | 16:03 |
| Sage_ | sledges: you might want to check my cubox compile as it uses similar driver | 16:04 |
| sledges | ok, it looks like we need libglx | 16:05 |
| Sage_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Asage%3Amer%3Acubox | 16:05 |
| Sage_ | libglx of libgfx? | 16:05 |
| sledges | thanks was about to go searching :) | 16:05 |
| sledges | libgfx ;) ta | 16:05 |
| Sage_ | :) | 16:05 |
| sledges | is it in Mer? | 16:05 |
| sledges | yup, should be as your .yaml says libgfx | 16:06 |
| sledges | hmmm lol nothing provides pkgconfig(libgfx), nothing provides pkgconfig(libEGL-devel) | 16:07 |
| * sledges is looksing at Sage's yaml/repos :) | 16:08 | |
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| Sage_ | sledges: nothing of those is in mer but only there | 16:09 |
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| sledges | you are building against Testing | 16:10 |
| Sage_ | sledges: -next and -latest | 16:11 |
| sledges | yup | 16:11 |
| sledges | can I build against ordinary (stable) Mer target? | 16:11 |
| sledges | i see that I will need to copy your libgfx under my project | 16:12 |
| Sage_ | -latest is latest stable | 16:12 |
| sledges | -latest says in your repos: latest_armv7hl (armv8el) | 16:12 |
| sledges | Mer:Tools:Testing/Mer_Core_armv7hl | 16:12 |
| Sage_ | .. | 16:12 |
| * Sage_ checks | 16:12 | |
| Sage_ | oh... ffs :D | 16:12 |
| * Sage_ fixes that | 16:13 | |
| sledges | :) | 16:13 |
| sledges | lolok | 16:13 |
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| Sage_ | fixed :) | 16:14 |
| sledges | nice thanks! | 16:14 |
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| sledges | I'll just build against your building repo and will continue to love OBS :D | 16:15 |
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| sledges | or not :D | 16:16 |
| sledges | pity repos are not inheritant :) | 16:16 |
| sledges | Sage_, I cannot add Mer:fake:Core via https://build.pub.meego.com/project/add_repository?project=home%3Asledge%3AMer%3AHA%3AiMX | 16:20 |
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| Sage_ | sledges: do it manually with meta prj -e ;) | 16:23 |
| sledges | 8] | 16:23 |
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| sledges | haven't yet delved into the cmdline of OBS/osc | 16:24 |
| sledges | hmm just built libgfx: and it still says nothing provides pkgconfig(libgfx), have choice for libEGL.so.1 needed by mesa-llvmpipe: libgfx-libEGL mesa-llvmpipe-libEGL | 16:25 |
| Sage_ | hmmp... I think this libgfx is something different :) | 16:30 |
| sledges | umm | 16:30 |
| sledges | libgfx is built | 16:30 |
| sledges | the package which depends on it is https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=xorg-x11-drv-imx-viv&project=home%3Asledge%3AMer%3AHA%3AiMX | 16:31 |
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| Sage_ | sledges: libgfx that I have doesn't provide pkgconfig(libgfx) | 16:35 |
| sledges | ok, i hink i found a problem: added libgfx under PkgConfigBR instead of PkgBR ;) | 16:35 |
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| sledges | yup, looks fixed now; and so now it curses on many more other such as libdirectfb | 16:36 |
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| sledges | Sage_, could you crashcourse me in how to add mer:fake:core with meta prj -e ? | 16:39 |
| sledges | pleaase :D | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | look at topic | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | "Building against mer in cobs" | 16:40 |
| sledges | umm | 16:40 |
| sledges | already found shortcut: copy meta xml via OBS web intefrace from Sage's project :) | 16:41 |
| * sledges runs and hides again | 16:41 | |
| sledges | looking positive: just branched libdirect from Sage's, too; toes crossed | 16:46 |
| sledges | ok Sage_, all deps satisfied, last error: have choice for libEGL.so.1 needed by mesa-llvmpipe: libgfx-libEGL mesa-llvmpipe-libEGL, have choice for libEGL.so needed by libgfx: libgfx-libEGL mesa-llvmpipe-libEGL-compat | 16:52 |
| sledges | all .specs look equivalent to yours | 16:52 |
| sledges | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=xorg-x11-drv-imx-viv&project=home%3Asledge%3AMer%3AHA%3AiMX# | 16:52 |
| Sage_ | sledges: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/prjconf?project=home%3Asage%3Amer%3Acubox | 16:53 |
| sledges | you're the man! | 16:53 |
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| sledges | you live you learn, i wonder how thick OBS book is | 16:55 |
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| sledges | can't believe it: same HAL/gc_hal.h no such file or dir error :{ | 16:57 |
| sledges | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=xorg-x11-drv-imx-viv&project=home%3Asledge%3AMer%3AHA%3AiMX&repository=latest_armv7hl | 16:57 |
| sledges | in need of libgfx-devel.. | 17:01 |
| sledges | ok, grabbed straw | 17:02 |
| sledges | how to include rudimentary archive file (not compile output) in final RPM (in spec/yaml language) ? | 17:12 |
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| Bostik | sledges: copy file at end of %install to %{buildroot}/path/to/somewhere and then just have the file or path in one of the %files sections | 17:21 |
| Bostik | sledges: I've abused that to build easy-to-install media demo packages, and dropped large movie clips in /usr/share/FOO/... | 17:22 |
| sledges | thank you Bostik | 17:25 |
| Bostik | yw | 17:27 |
| Bostik | sledges: if you want to include real .a "archives", that's another matter as rpmbuild goes to great lengths to ensure you don't accidentally ship such libraries :) | 17:28 |
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| sledges | :) | 17:28 |
| Bostik | (it removes them from %{buildroot} behind your back) | 17:28 |
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| * CosmoHill is round his cousin's | 17:29 | |
| Bostik | and the best general advice all week: http://tonyarcieri.com/all-the-crypto-code-youve-ever-written-is-probably-broken | 17:30 |
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| kulve | I'm trying to create a sparse filesystem with ext4_utils' make_ext4fs but the kernel can't mount that. The kernel doesn't seem to recognise the partition being anything sane (ext2/3/4/etc) and stops there. Any hints about using that? | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | kernel version differences? | 17:47 |
| kulve | differences between what? | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | well, host making fs'es your target kernel can't understand | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | also, there's a CONFIG_ that we noticed recently.. hmm | 17:48 |
| kulve | I don't see how my host kernel could mess this up, but I guess everything is possible :) | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | what's the error? | 17:49 |
| kulve | can't cut'n' paste that because I have no serial connection but it's the usual what happens when you try to mount e.g. a partition that doesn't have anything | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | CONFIG_EXT4 in kernel? (have to check) | 17:50 |
| kulve | yes, that's on | 17:50 |
| kulve | either the kernel doesn't somehow understand this "sparse" filesystem, or that make_ext4 does something odd (e.g. file command doesn't recognise the image, but the ubuntu image still works) or the fastboot flash -S doesn't work properly. I'll try to narrow which one could it be.. | 17:51 |
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| vgrade | evening all | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | evening vgrade | 17:53 |
| kulve | basically my problem is to flash bigger images that can fit to the memory and that's not so common use case with fastboot.. | 17:53 |
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| vgrade | kulve: this on N7 | 17:56 |
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| kulve | yeah | 17:57 |
| kulve | the problem is the "fastboot flash -S". I if flash a small image without, it works but if I flash it in two pieces, the kernel can't mount it | 17:59 |
| kulve | wierd sentence but maybe you got the point.. | 17:59 |
| sledges | eve vgrade | 18:01 |
| vgrade | so you have a boot.bin with kernel and dummy initrd which you flash to boot part, then a rfs which goes to another part? | 18:01 |
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| vgrade | sledges: \0 | 18:01 |
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| vgrade | or is the N7 different layout to normal andriod | 18:02 |
| CosmoHill | hi vgrade | 18:03 |
| kulve | vgrade: normal android layout but I'm skipping the initrd because I don't like it. But it seems that it wouldn't affect the situation anyway | 18:03 |
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| vgrade | kulve: I've never used on but had to provide a dummy one in the past with init deleted to get a valid boot.img | 18:06 |
| kulve | it works with -S 512M (where 256M < sizeof(rfs) < 512M) but not with -S 256M | 18:06 |
| kulve | vgrade: boot.img works, rootfs not | 18:06 |
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| vgrade | kulve: and you don't have a bigger part to copy the rfs to | 18:08 |
| kulve | vgrade: fastboot puts the rfs image first to memory and only then flashes it to the emmc. That limits the size quite a bit.. | 18:08 |
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| vgrade | kulve: ouch | 18:11 |
| kulve | there is a system around that but the ubuntu guys are saying that it failed 30% of the attempts. It's been 100% for me so far, but I'll do more thorough testing | 18:12 |
| vgrade | how does the ubuntu untility work | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: perhaps a system where you can export the emmc over usb.. | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | with a kernel and initrd | 18:13 |
| vgrade | I'm assuming they are tying to load more than ram | 18:13 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: nice idea, like the n950 | 18:13 |
| kulve | ubuntu has packaged all the android tools as debs. Their fastboot (or just newer fastboot?) can send the rootfs in pieces | 18:13 |
| vgrade | so we could do the same, with a minimal mer then zypper up | 18:14 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: booting from usb would be a decent option, yes. Assuming the OTG port works properly in the host mode too | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: i mean, fastboot takes a kernel or boot image to load into ram | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | and who said anything about host mode, just do g_file_storage gadget :) | 18:15 |
| kulve | hmm.. I'm not that familiar with g_file_storage. How does one configure it? What would the host side see? | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | a usb disk | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | i presume this is a emmc deep down anyway? | 18:17 |
| kulve | yes | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | what we do on n950 is basically to export the partition over usb | 18:17 |
| kulve | (I think so at least) | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | or the whole disk | 18:17 |
| vgrade | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=moslo&project=home%3Amarquiz%3An950 n950 moslo | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | and just write ;) | 18:17 |
| RaYmAn | you really don't want to export whole disk on n7 | 18:18 |
| RaYmAn | :P | 18:18 |
| RaYmAn | there is no way to recover if you mess up the first ~8mb of the eMMC | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | well, a partition then | 18:18 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: how do I select what to export? | 18:19 |
| RaYmAn | kulve: sysfs entries | 18:19 |
| kulve | I can flash the kernel without a problem so I can modify that freely | 18:19 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: the magic happens in the initrd.. sec | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: modprobe g_file_storage file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 stall=0 removable=1 nofua=1 | 18:21 |
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| Stskeeps | for example | 18:21 |
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| RaYmAn | I suppose that works too =P Alternatively, it is possible to set it up dynamically through sysfs :) | 18:21 |
| kulve | "Posted by Angana Ghosh, Product Manager in Android: Today we are making Android 4.2 (Jelly Bean) SDK platform available for download" | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | first now? | 18:22 |
| RaYmAn | they also have factory images for 4.2 nexus 7 | 18:22 |
| RaYmAn | and the AOSP sourcecode is being pushed :) | 18:22 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: and how do I actually create the initrd..? | 18:22 |
| vgrade | tools in the link above to moslo | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: a initrd is practically a cpio.gz | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/how-to-view-modify-and-recreate-initrd-img/ | 18:24 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: yeah, I actually did extract the ubuntu one to see what it has eaten.. | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, should probably charge my touchpad.. | 18:27 |
| vgrade | kulve: what about nvflash, apx mode is that not supported on N7 | 18:28 |
| RaYmAn | vgrade: it's locked down. | 18:28 |
| RaYmAn | you can get in apx mode, but it's no use given it requires knowing the SBK | 18:30 |
| vgrade | RaYmAn: been there before eh | 18:30 |
| RaYmAn | vgrade: indeed. Sadly, the methods used to get nvflash on tf201, tf300 and tf700 didn't pan out on nexus7 :( | 18:31 |
| kulve | I have tried now flashing with "fastboot flash -S" several times and it seems to fail always. So maybe I'll hack some initrd image and try that. Or then I'll just pass the g_file_storage in the kernel command line? Although can I somehow tell the kernel that it doesn't need the rootfs at all.. | 18:32 |
| RaYmAn | so uhm, why are you wanting to flash it as a sparse image? issues with size? | 18:32 |
| kulve | yeah | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT may come in handy then | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | you probably need some mini fs for it to mount /dev at though | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: other insane possibilities involve NFS boot | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:33 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: that option doesn't work with an initrd, heh. | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: arh | 18:34 |
| RaYmAn | threw me off last time I used that,lol | 18:34 |
| RaYmAn | but tbh, you can just use a small statically compiled binary as /init | 18:34 |
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| RaYmAn | if all you need is to setup e.g. a partition for writing | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, true | 18:35 |
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| kulve | I think I'll modify the ubuntu initrd and replace the init shell script to do what I need. It already does some initialisation, so I could just run a modprobe after that and sleep forever. | 18:36 |
| RaYmAn | one of the "nice" (as well as annoying) features of g_file_storage, is that it exports the raw partition..meaning it's possible to create filesystems etc | 18:37 |
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| kulve | Ubuntu kernel has this built-in: "The Android gadget driver supports multiple USB functions" | 18:39 |
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| Stskeeps | i typically disable the android gadget driver | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:39 |
| kulve | I think I tried but then I failed to compile the kernel.. I'll try again | 18:40 |
| kulve | would g_mass_storage be better than g_file_storage? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | might be same thing but different name | 18:41 |
| kulve | "This driver is an updated replacement for the deprecated File-backed Storage Gadget (g_file_storage)." | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | i guess so then | 18:41 |
| kulve | let's try | 18:41 |
| faenil | oh come on w00t I deserve an answer to the vibration comment :D | 18:43 |
| faenil | as harsh as that might be :D | 18:43 |
| w00t | hehe, not sure what to say | 18:44 |
| w00t | naming is a fun game, anyway | 18:44 |
| faenil | say that, you like my name ;) don't be shy ;) | 18:45 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: yeah, won't compile.. | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | yay :/ | 18:51 |
| kulve | something depends on the symbols provided by the android gadget and I think that something is important.. | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | ok then | 18:53 |
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| kulve | I think the android gadget provides mass storage as well, but I wonder if it's suitable for this use case.. | 18:56 |
| lbt | android gadget has slightly different semantics in a few calls afaict | 18:57 |
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| kulve | #include "f_mass_storage.c" | 18:58 |
| lbt | rndis_bind_config() needed extra USB id information | 18:58 |
| kulve | always looks good.. | 18:58 |
| lbt | hehe | 18:58 |
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| shmerl | Hi. There is a current questions list for Jolla which community pland to send them shortly after the Slush event. | 19:07 |
| shmerl | Can we use some page on the Mer wiki for collecting answers (in Q&A form)? | 19:07 |
| shmerl | There were concerns that Maemo.org wiki can be decomissioned. Meego.com wiki doesn't seem reliable as well. | 19:08 |
| shmerl | Thread about the questions is here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87764 | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | let's try to keep the mer wiki as kinda vendor agnostic :) i'm sure jolla will find a good way to answer and send them | 19:08 |
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| shmerl | Sure they can send the answer, but community has no place to publish stuff ATM, except the Maemo.org infrastructure. | 19:09 |
| shmerl | And it's becoming not reliable in the long term. | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | well, there's the tmo thread.. | 19:09 |
| shmerl | I wouldn't mind if something like forum.merproject.org would come up. | 19:09 |
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| shmerl | Sure, I can post answers there, but it's not as presentable. | 19:10 |
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| shmerl | Mer wiki can have a page for community relations with vendors. | 19:11 |
| shmerl | I don't think it's too much offtopic for Mer site. | 19:11 |
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| shmerl | I.e. list communication channels, common FAQs and etc. | 19:11 |
| shmerl | There is this already: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page#End_Users | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | maybe | 19:13 |
| shmerl | We can just extend it a bit with brief info and references about those vendors and may be Q&A data. | 19:13 |
| shmerl | I wouldn't mind if Jolla could publish the answers on their site - but they have none :) | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | #jollamobile exists too btw :) | 19:14 |
| shmerl | Plus maintaining the list on the wiki is better, since we can add more info when we'll find out more. | 19:14 |
| shmerl | Well, they know people wait for their site, I won't bug them about it :) | 19:15 |
| vgrade | kulve: were you using something similar to http://www.mattfischer.com/blog/?p=285 | 19:16 |
| shmerl | Is there capacity on the merproject server to set up a forum by the way (I mean hosting wise)? | 19:16 |
| shmerl | vgrade: Oh, by the way. How did Ubuntu pulled it through? They got all drivers? | 19:17 |
| dm8tbr | there are mailing lists | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: we use mailing lists as that's what is appropiate for our goals | 19:17 |
| shmerl | dm8tbr: Mailing list are fine. Forums are other medium of communication, they aren't the same. | 19:17 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: They suit for vendors relation better. But not always as good for working with the community. | 19:18 |
| shmerl | At least having forums won't hurt I think. It can only help. | 19:18 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: i do agree, but there's no common mer app story and communities are more likely to revolve around devices (hw adaptations) and uis (plasma active, sailfish, nemo, etc) | 19:19 |
| shmerl | What concerns me is that TMO will probably just disappear at some point. | 19:19 |
| * dm8tbr would certainly not want to see the TMO crowd waltz into Mer... | 19:19 | |
| wmarone | there's nothing for them in Mer | 19:20 |
| dm8tbr | they just have no real overlap | 19:20 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: That's possible, and that's why it's also good for them to have one conergence palce like forum.merproject.org | 19:20 |
| shmerl | convergence* | 19:20 |
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| shmerl | dm8tbr: Who "they"? | 19:20 |
| shmerl | Developers and end users have a lot of overlap. | 19:20 |
| shmerl | I'm not talking about vendors - Mer relations. | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: i'll be honest here: i delimit mer very intentionally as it's one that needs to survive through shifting user communities, vendors, devices | 19:21 |
| shmerl | Well, forum is not a palce to direct Mer. It's just a place for people to communicate. | 19:22 |
| dm8tbr | shmerl: neither developers nor users have direct stake in Mer. they are down stream behind the 'vendors' (which can be also OSS projects like Nemo or plasma) | 19:22 |
| shmerl | dm8tbr: This doesn't preclude a benefit of having a common communication medium for all of them. | 19:22 |
| dm8tbr | shmerl: it neither does force merproject to provide it | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: what i do hope will happen is many different ui projects, like maui, plasma active, stb, etc.. i liked talk.maemo.org but it became troublesome when it got overloaded | 19:23 |
| shmerl | No one forced it. I was asking if it has a capacity. | 19:23 |
| dm8tbr | especially if it would possibly lead to confusion or misunderstanding | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: i do encourage places like opentablets though | 19:23 |
| shmerl | Community can work on making the forum and etc. | 19:23 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: I tried to encourage those. | 19:24 |
| shmerl | Didn't really attact people because it looks too external. | 19:24 |
| Stskeeps | internettablettalk was external :) | 19:24 |
| shmerl | Those I didn't even see. | 19:24 |
| shmerl | forum.merproject.org will be more solid just name wise. | 19:25 |
| shmerl | Confusion can be resolved - it's not an issue. | 19:25 |
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| shmerl | It can have sections explicitly for vendors relation, Mer derivatives communities and etc. | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | i don't see a need for a mer forum, sorry, but i do hope to see vendors that share a common app story work on these things together | 19:26 |
| shmerl | I'm just telling you that it'll increase the mess. | 19:26 |
| shmerl | Especially if TMO won't be migrated. | 19:26 |
| shmerl | And will just evaporate. | 19:26 |
| shmerl | If you worry about TMO cluttering - just encourage more moderation. | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | this is my own private opinion (and sometimes controversial), but i doubt tmo will last beyond the year | 19:27 |
| Stskeeps | and in destruction there's new life | 19:28 |
| shmerl | I expect it to last even less. | 19:28 |
| vgrade | shmerl: nvidia are one of the best SoC vendors when iy comes to linux support unlike their desktop offerings | 19:28 |
| shmerl | And here are concerns about Wiki disappearnces: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87815 | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | and for many of us we had the feeling we had to go out and start fresh, to avoid having the baggage, and create good communities from bottom up | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | so there's ability for people to participate in mer in the ways we've set out in order to have a healthy community | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | going forward, people can collaborate and work in mer, nemo, plasma active, sailfish, etc | 19:30 |
| shmerl | vgrade: So in theory one should be able to run PA on Nexus 7 with accelratino and all bells & whistles? | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | probably yes | 19:30 |
| shmerl | Then I wonder why they don't use it for Vivaldi. | 19:31 |
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| shmerl | Stskeeps: Sure. Some fresh start will benefit TMO which is stagnating. But so far there is no single point of convergence. OpenTablets didn't pick up. | 19:32 |
| shmerl | You look at things from working with vendors perspective. But it's not the only one. | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: i'm aware - we have a limited purpose here and we can work together if we're very different goals | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | and frankly, if we got tmo into here, we'd loose, not gain contributors | 19:34 |
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| Stskeeps | so i'm just guarding something precious here, really | 19:34 |
| shmerl | Hm. May be. I'm not really proposing to "move" the whole TMO. | 19:35 |
| shmerl | Just to offer an alternative. | 19:35 |
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| shmerl | When Meego.com came up (the forum) - it was very good. | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | people will regroup as needed, many do'ers are already in mer, nemo and other places | 19:35 |
| shmerl | Alas, Meego just died. | 19:35 |
| shmerl | I.e. Meego.com forum was development oriented, technical and to the point. | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | this is, fwiw, my own opinion | 19:36 |
| shmerl | Well, I'm not proposing to dilute Mer as a focused project. Just thinking what should work as a "better TMO". | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | and i'll have to say: no, forum isn't a good idea and i don't see a need for it currently - and that's my decision to make | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | and the good thing about tmo wasn't tmo itself, but the fact people could get into areas and collaborate - here we have a similar feeling, people work together on efforts | 19:37 |
| shmerl | I guess when TMO will close, they'll naturally be forced to come up with something else. | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | anyhow, we're drifting in topic | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: maybe there's a mass storage thing in the android gadget? | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | if it's anything like g_multi | 19:38 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr is next thing i'm ramping up | 19:39 |
| shmerl | Is it a combination of DE + session manager? | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | well, think next generation nemo | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | building blocks for the future | 19:41 |
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| shmerl | I see. And Jolla might use it as well? | 19:41 |
| shmerl | Or it's still in alpha state? | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know :) let's see where it goes | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | saw maui project btw? | 19:42 |
| shmerl | No, searching it now :) | 19:43 |
| shmerl | Looks interesting - it seems to be a whole distro with focus on using Qt for UI. Are they using Mer? | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | their own thing atm, it's qt5+wayland | 19:45 |
| shmerl | Ah, they have some other architecture - no packages they write. | 19:45 |
| shmerl | Bundles approach. | 19:45 |
| shmerl | I.e. everything is always bundled I guess. How do they overcome the bloat though? | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | dunno | 19:47 |
| shmerl | I feel it's kind of extreme. | 19:47 |
| shmerl | Android leans towards bundling, and it's not the best thing there. | 19:47 |
| shmerl | May be some hybrid approach is best. | 19:48 |
| shmerl | I.e. packages with dependencies with optional bundles of certain versions of packages. | 19:49 |
| shmerl | I saw RedHat uses something of that sort. | 19:49 |
| shmerl | They call it "collections" | 19:49 |
| shmerl | I.e. bundles isolate packages, so they don't collide. | 19:50 |
| shmerl | https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolset/1/html/Software_Collections_Guide/index.html | 19:53 |
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| shmerl | Stskeeps: So do you think that hawaii desktop can share some effort with Zephyr? | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | probably | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | same with kde on qt5 | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | very similar challenges to solve | 19:57 |
| shmerl | Specifically with Kwin or in general? | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | in general | 19:58 |
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| Stskeeps | just to make it a lot easier to make interesting systems | 20:00 |
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| kulve | vgrade: yeah, that's the page I started from | 20:00 |
| kulve | I might actually try a different approach now that I know I can (maybe) create a big filesystem with little data on it. I only need to get the wifi working (assuming it will work) to install more stuff | 20:00 |
| shmerl | vgrade: I wonder if PlasmaActive are secretly working on their release for Nexus 7 now, as Vivaldi :) | 20:07 |
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| vgrade | shmerl: they are working on this | 20:13 |
| shmerl | On Nexus 7? It's exciting then. | 20:13 |
| vgrade | vgrade_: no sorry this | 20:13 |
| shmerl | You mean on Vivaldi in general? | 20:14 |
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| shmerl | Yeah, I know they are working, but they didn't share any details about the hardware choice since their shift. | 20:14 |
| shmerl | If Nexus 7 can be fully functional - then it's probably the best option around. | 20:15 |
| vgrade | http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/kde_tablet/ | 20:15 |
| shmerl | Very interesting, thanks! | 20:17 |
| shmerl | Looking at that it seems that "Identify manufacturer of tablet" step isn't completed. | 20:18 |
| vgrade | http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/2012-11-13#1352816601 | 20:19 |
| shmerl | Aaron on the other hand said before that they did make a choice already. That's confusing. | 20:19 |
| vgrade | I'm sure they are looking at more than one solution | 20:19 |
| shmerl | I see. I sure hope they won't abandon 7" size because it's "small". | 20:20 |
| vgrade | N7 woud be a good target | 20:21 |
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| kulve | ubuntu is working on n7 so it will most likely have nice momemtum | 20:22 |
| shmerl | Well, if it has drivers, Mer/PA should run there? May be Basyskom can release some images. | 20:24 |
| shmerl | I'd prefer PlasmaActive to Ubuntu. | 20:24 |
| kulve | yeah, I don't see any reason for Mer not to run on it with all the candies | 20:25 |
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| kulve | it's *really* annoying to debug a device that has no serial connection, no ethernet, no keyboard and no touchscreen | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: that's part of the fun ;) | 20:32 |
| kulve | I'll continue the fun on some other day.. | 20:33 |
| lbt | kulve: tell me about it ... do you have a screen? | 20:34 |
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| [ol] | Hi! I want to build Mer for x86_64. I'm trying to find instructions how to setup build environment to build all packages for that architacture, but I found nothing so far. Am I missing something obvious? | 20:38 |
| Stskeeps | if you can promise me you won't need multilib, i'm happy to help | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:40 |
| [ol] | I want to build everything on my computer, not relying on external OBS and stuff. My build host is Fedora 17 x86_64. | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: francois or something like that did a build for SH4 lately | 20:41 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: So far I don't need multilib. I just want to build Plasma Active on my netbook. As it's based on Mer, I'd like to try building Mer first. | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: and he started out by bootstrapping utilizing scratchbox2 in sdk | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | and then fed it into his OBS | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | do you have a toolchain and sysroot for x86_64 already? | 20:42 |
| [ol] | Actually, I'd like to have build environment to build for any architecture from scratch, like "make world" in FreeBSD. | 20:42 |
| Stskeeps | you and me both, but we're not nearly there yet | 20:43 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: I have nothing so far. | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | OK, start out by getting a cross compiler and sysroot with glibc and glibc headers in it + kernel headers | 20:43 |
| Stskeeps | you'll have to feed this into a OBS at some point for a clean port though | 20:44 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: Can I have local OBS? | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | mer's designed to let anybody rebuild it locally if they want | 20:44 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: Could you please point me to instructions how to install local OBS? | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | lbt, where was the link to set up a mer obs? | 20:45 |
| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/obs-setup | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: btw, this is a substantial effort but it's possible to do by one person | 20:46 |
| [ol] | lbt: And while you're here, could you please allow me access to https://api.pub.meego.com ? | 20:47 |
| lbt | sure, username? | 20:47 |
| [ol] | ol | 20:47 |
| lbt | done, have fun :) | 20:48 |
| [ol] | lbt: Thank you! | 20:48 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: OK, do in order to cross-compile packages, I need OBS, right? | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: grab mer platform sdk, set up a sb2 target with your toolchain and sysroot, and build these packages: http://pastie.org/5373683 manually with rpmbuild -bb for x86_64 | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: this gives you the self-consistent set of packages that you can load into a obs | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | and ask a lot of questions | 20:51 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: The only SDK available on https://img.merproject.org/images/sdk/ is for i486. Can I use it to build for x86_64 target natively? | 20:52 |
| shmerl | Should SB2 in theory support x86_64 targets? | 20:52 |
| Stskeeps | shmerl: sure | 20:52 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: yes, just get a binary toolchain built for x86 | 20:52 |
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| lbt | meego wiki is back btws | 20:55 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: else, you can probably start with a mer cross compiler spec, dump in, let's say, debian's kernel headers and glibc/devel into a sysroot | 20:58 |
| Stskeeps | and go from there | 20:58 |
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| Stskeeps | that might be cleaner | 20:58 |
| rZr | lbt, yes so are harmattan-dev docs | 20:59 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: OK, now I'm in SDK chroot. Where is sysroot? | 20:59 |
| rZr | lbt, in case of https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo | 20:59 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: sysroot is practically just a place that contains stuff for your target | 21:00 |
| Stskeeps | so it's any path you choose | 21:00 |
| lbt | rZr: I have a full DB level backup of the wiki - no worries | 21:00 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: If I was building for armv7hl, where sysroot would be located? | 21:00 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 | 21:01 |
| lbt | [ol]: go through http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK and ... ^ url | 21:01 |
| Stskeeps | probably good background | 21:01 |
| shmerl | Hehe, I just wanted to post the same link. | 21:01 |
| rZr | lbt, good but could those snapshot be downloaded ? | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: did you have a mer gerrit account? | 21:02 |
| lbt | rZr: ? | 21:02 |
| rZr | lbt, wiki dumps ? to be used offline by anyone | 21:03 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: Yes, I have. | 21:03 |
| lbt | no, I think I'd need to sanitise them and don't currently have time | 21:03 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: ok, as a start, let's make a cross compiler | 21:04 |
| rZr | well thx anyway to all | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: git clone ssh://yourusername@review.merproject.org:29418/mer-core/gcc | 21:04 |
| lbt | it was Adam at intel who fixed it | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | that gets you the gcc packaging | 21:04 |
| rZr | is he on irc ? | 21:04 |
| lbt | no | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: btw, are you going for x86_64 or x32? | 21:06 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: x86_64 | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | o | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | k | 21:06 |
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| [ol] | Stskeeps: Do I understand correctly that SDK is just a Mer in chroot with development packages installed? | 21:07 |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: correct, it has a tools dir beyond that | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | err, repo | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: it makes sure we have right tools and versions on any distro | 21:07 |
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| Stskeeps | [ol]: also clone /mer-core/binutils | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: so the first thing you'd want to do is to build a binutils for your target, you don't need sb2 for that | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | you can just rpmbuild inside the mer sdk | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | you modify precheckin.sh to include x86_64 and run it, then edit binutils.spec http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/binutils.git;a=blob;f=binutils.spec;h=813a309b79fd899f46d5fae55468caaaea4534e9;hb=master#l40 to add cross-x86_64-binutils , as well as http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/binutils.git;a=blob;f=binutils.spec;h=813a309b79fd899f46d5fae55468caaaea4534e9;hb=master#l366 | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | and re-run precheckin.sh | 21:15 |
| [ol] | Stskeeps: Like "rpmbuild --target x86_64-pc-linux -bb PACKAGE.rpm"? | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | nah, this is for the mer sdk at first | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | rpmbuild'ing for target is possible later | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | we want to have a cross toolchain first (gcc, binutils, glibc headers/libraries and kernel headers) | 21:15 |
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| Stskeeps | that runs on top of mer sdk | 21:16 |
| [ol] | OK, so I need to build another cross-compiling toolchain, like cross-armv7hl-binutils and cross-armv7hl-gcc packages, right? | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's what i was describing :) | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | so we'll first build cross-x86_64-binutils as gcc needs that | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | and install it into our sdk | 21:17 |
| [ol] | Those Git repositories are quite large... GCC was already cloned, Binutils are in progress... | 21:19 |
| [ol] | Binutils done. | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | once you've done cross-binutils, you'll want to add http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/gcc.git;a=blob;f=gcc.spec;h=c8830fec00b01fa6bb1bbfe874f54558303f9851;hb=HEAD#l21 to have x86_64 too, add a section like http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/gcc.git;a=blob;f=gcc.spec;h=c8830fec00b01fa6bb1bbfe874f54558303f9851;hb=HEAD#l75 matching x86_64 needs and again, precheckin.sh modification and run it | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | you'd want to put a glibc devel and so on into /opt/cross/x86_64-meego-linux-gnu/sys-root at that point | 21:20 |
| Stskeeps | but let's take binutils first | 21:20 |
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| Stskeeps | sudo zypper in rpm-build meego-rpm-config gcc gcc-c++ glibc-devel make | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | at least | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | into sdk | 21:21 |
| * lbt burns *another* kernel | 21:21 | |
| Stskeeps | then you can attempt a rpmbuild -bb cross-x86_64-binutils.spec | 21:22 |
| Stskeeps | (you may need to set up ~/rpmbuild/{BUILD,BUILDROOT,SPECS,SOURCES,SRPMS,RPMS,OTHER} and put the binutils sources in SOURCES and do rpmbuild in there) | 21:24 |
| Stskeeps | time to sleep, bbl | 21:27 |
| Stskeeps | [ol]: feel free to ask any questions, i've done this before for armv7hl | 21:27 |
| Stskeeps | took ~week | 21:27 |
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| sledges | evening chaps | 22:11 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 22:12 |
| sledges | could anyone put me back on track having had a glance: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=xorg-x11-drv-imx-viv&project=home%3Asledge%3AMer%3AHA%3AiMX&repository=latest_armv7hl | 22:12 |
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| vgrade | sledges: nothing I've seen before | 22:21 |
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| sledges | vgrade, it looks like kernel headers are required | 22:30 |
| sledges | that | 22:30 |
| Sage_ | lbt: is the .0.2 already pushed to cobs? | 22:30 |
| sledges | will be a challenge porting from ltib to obs :) | 22:30 |
| lbt | Sage_: yes | 22:31 |
| Sage_ | k | 22:31 |
| * Sage_ creates nemo snapshot for -next | 22:32 | |
| Sage_ | Warning: Package liberation-mono-fonts-1.06.0.20100721-1.3.noarch.rpm is damaged: /home/sage/git/daily-image-builder/mic-cache/nemo-kickstarter-configs/packages/mer-core/liberation-mono-fonts-1.06.0.20100721-1.3.noarch.rpm | 22:33 |
| Sage_ | I've always pondered what is the cause for that (cc: phaeron) | 22:33 |
| phaeron | where is that ? | 22:41 |
| Sage_ | locally when I build image with mic | 22:42 |
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| phaeron | hmm | 22:43 |
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| Sage_ | it happens from time to time | 22:44 |
| phaeron | I only see this when same package name and version has different checksum in latest vs. next. best is to have the repo names in the kickstart different so the cache is separate | 22:44 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/5374209 | 22:45 |
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| phaeron | repo name="mer-core-latest" and repo name="mer-core-next" so that they cache separately | 22:45 |
| Sage_ | well I'm building many .ks files with same cache so maybe that is it | 22:45 |
| Sage_ | Info: Retrieving xorg-x11-filesystem-7.3-1.3.noarch.rpm [344/173] ... ;) | 22:46 |
| phaeron | packages in latest and next can have same name and version but different md5sum | 22:46 |
| Sage_ | ah, well that makes sense. | 22:50 |
| Sage_ | whyt the warning is caused. Though I'm not sure I understand why so many packages differ in md5sum | 22:51 |
| Sage_ | is there -next indicator added to the rpm's or something? | 22:51 |
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| sledges | ok chaps, pls help, I'm close to solving: I just added kernel-adaptation-...-devel package as dependency, still getting same 'gceTILING undefined' error. But gceTILING is defined under kernel's arch/arm/mach-dove/gc6000_driver_dove/galore_ko_src/hal/gc_hal_enum.h - how to tell OBS to look there for includes ? (my spec: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=xorg-x11-drv-imx-viv.spec&package=xorg-x11-drv-imx-v | 23:05 |
| phaeron | Sage_: no indicator unfortunately | 23:05 |
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| sledges | just found again in Sage's exactly the bit: -I/usr/src/kernels/%{kernel_version}/arch/arm/mach-dove/gc600_driver_dove/galcore_ko_src/hal/inc/" aaa I thought all the bits will be generic instructions and not hardcoded snippets :D | 23:09 |
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| lbt | wmarone: ping | 23:39 |
| wmarone | oh | 23:39 |
| wmarone | what's up | 23:39 |
| lbt | the nook... | 23:39 |
| lbt | not getting very far :/ | 23:39 |
| wmarone | what are you hitting? | 23:39 |
| wmarone | (and in retrospect, I should have done all of this via OBS....) | 23:40 |
| lbt | nah - it's not that | 23:40 |
| lbt | I downloaded 'nooter' 0.2 ... it got me a bootable system | 23:40 |
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| lbt | the problem is that I can't reproduce that kernel at all | 23:41 |
| wmarone | hm | 23:41 |
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| lbt | the wiki page is a tad vague on what kernel to build | 23:41 |
| lbt | and I'm not quite sure what I should expect to see | 23:42 |
| lbt | eg the screen has never even flickered on | 23:42 |
| wmarone | weird | 23:42 |
| lbt | no bootload image, no console | 23:42 |
| lbt | but I do get (with nooter kernel) ssh to cdc_ether | 23:43 |
| lbt | so ... should uboot actually put stuff on the screen ? | 23:43 |
| wmarone | it should | 23:43 |
| wmarone | now | 23:43 |
| lbt | and should I see a textual console? | 23:43 |
| wmarone | it depends, sorta, on how you boot it | 23:43 |
| wmarone | I admit that the first thing I did when I got it was put CM7 on it | 23:43 |
| lbt | well, pushing the power button | 23:43 |
| lbt | ah, I've not done that | 23:43 |
| wmarone | and they did extensive modifications to the u-boot, which I leveraged | 23:44 |
| lbt | it's a vanilla nook | 23:44 |
| lbt | yeah, I pulled your u-boot | 23:44 |
| lbt | the nook boot env is... convoluted | 23:44 |
| wmarone | yes | 23:44 |
| lbt | so I replaced it with the one used in nooter - to try to boot the nooter kernel ... nothing | 23:44 |
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| wmarone | I think I hit something like that | 23:45 |
| lbt | I was doing that since I had a system that booted to ssh | 23:45 |
| lbt | and thought I'd replace one component at a time | 23:45 |
| wmarone | I can't look at it now, but I will dig up what I was doing previously and see if I can't work my way back | 23:45 |
| lbt | no need for that - just some notes on expectations | 23:46 |
| lbt | I don't really want to flash CM7 | 23:46 |
| wmarone | yeah | 23:46 |
| lbt | since it may affect the boot stuff | 23:46 |
| wmarone | I imagine it does | 23:46 |
| lbt | so, I think step 1 is making u-boot write to the screen | 23:47 |
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| wmarone | yeah | 23:47 |
| lbt | I just got the B&N source to try that | 23:47 |
| lbt | all the guides point to git repos without mentioning which tag/sha1 to use | 23:48 |
| lbt | also they rarely mention which config to use with which patch set | 23:48 |
| wmarone | the nook guide in the meego wiki? | 23:48 |
| lbt | I'm currently aiming at android gadget with rndis | 23:48 |
| lbt | yeah, it's a bit vague | 23:49 |
| sledges | fellows, when directory surely exists, why OBS spits still the error: vivante_gal/vivante_priv.h:59: error: unknown type name: 'gceTILING' (vivante_priv.h has #include "gc_hal_enum.h" which defines gceTILING and is under CFLAGS -I/usr/src/kernels/3.5.3-4.1-cubox/arch/arm/mach-dove/gc600_driver_dove/galcore_ko_src/hal/inc/, which is provided by BuildRequires: kernel-adaptation-cubox-devel ) | 23:49 |
| wmarone | lbt: yeah, it wasn't a very organized effort on my part | 23:49 |
| lbt | eg "Building the kernel" : "The Nook Devs instructions will suffice for building a proper uImage. " | 23:49 |
| lbt | *g* | 23:49 |
| wmarone | lbt: oddly they did work, assuming they didn't change everything up since then | 23:50 |
| lbt | B&N kernel just built | 23:50 |
| lbt | oh, the uRamdisk is MIA too | 23:50 |
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| lbt | that didn't help | 23:50 |
| wmarone | yeah, I lost that when my external disk went out | 23:51 |
| wmarone | that said | 23:51 |
| lbt | again, the nooter one is a simple debian affair that runs ssh over cdc_ether | 23:51 |
| lbt | so I'm kinda hoping to use that | 23:51 |
| wmarone | sure | 23:51 |
| lbt | did you mess with CONFIG_EXTRA_ENV_SETTINGS or CONFIG_BOOTCOMMAND ? | 23:52 |
| wmarone | don't believe so | 23:52 |
| wmarone | mostly CONFIG_CMDLINE | 23:53 |
| lbt | CONFIG_BOOTARGS ? | 23:53 |
| * wmarone tries to remmeber | 23:53 | |
| lbt | yeah - makes sense - it has /init | 23:53 |
| wmarone | *remember | 23:54 |
| lbt | *g* I know that feeling | 23:54 |
| lbt | well, if you do get any flashbacks... my main desire is to see something onscreen during boot | 23:54 |
| wmarone | yup | 23:55 |
| wmarone | I'll have to pull up my VMs, I should have an SD card raw image that should work | 23:55 |
| lbt | cheers | 23:57 |
| lbt | hmm - well, the u-boot has a 'loading' image - but vanilla nook doesn't use it | 23:59 |
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