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| CosmoHill | well fuck | 00:29 |
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| CosmoHill | working on some design for the mer website and I seem to have recreated it | 00:29 |
| CosmoHill | http://black-flag.co.uk/files/mer-site1.png | 00:32 |
| CosmoHill | what do you guys think? | 00:32 |
| CosmoHill | oh that's right, my internet isn't working properly :/ | 00:34 |
| CosmoHill | http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/mer-site1.png | 00:35 |
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| CosmoHill | night night (again) | 00:45 |
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| lbt | yay --- Nov 12 01:30:14 ash kernel: [3076485.181148] usb 5-4: Product: RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget | 01:30 |
| lbt | no bloody console or anything - not even a damned LED | 01:31 |
| yunta_ | lbt: have you ever heard about sleeping? | 01:32 |
| lbt | have you? | 01:32 |
| lbt | this is my Nook :) | 01:33 |
| yunta_ | I'd dream of it if I could :) | 01:33 |
| yunta_ | hacking nook? | 01:33 |
| lbt | yeah and I'm mispelling ifup | 01:33 |
| lbt | I think it may be sleep time | 01:34 |
| lbt | ssh | 01:34 |
| lbt | ssh | 01:34 |
| lbt | sssh | 01:34 |
| lbt | yeah | 01:34 |
| yunta_ | lbt: is that normal that I can't build live usb image on imager? | 01:35 |
| * lbt looks at clock and wonders if he can do just one more kernel. | 01:35 | |
| yunta_ | raw works fine | 01:36 |
| yunta_ | not only builds, but works | 01:36 |
| lbt | I'm not astonished | 01:36 |
| lbt | tell me tomorrow though | 01:36 |
| lbt | I think I need to sleep | 01:37 |
| yunta_ | what I'm trying to establish is: is it my kernel's fault | 01:37 |
| yunta_ | ok | 01:37 |
| yunta_ | me too | 01:37 |
| lbt | you mean IMG or mic local? | 01:37 |
| yunta_ | to? | 01:37 |
| yunta_ | img.mer... | 01:37 |
| yunta_ | didn't try building locally | 01:37 |
| yunta_ | well, tomorrow | 01:37 |
| lbt | try | 01:37 |
| yunta_ | ok | 01:37 |
| yunta_ | gn | 01:38 |
| lbt | I built exopc bootable images | 01:38 |
| lbt | so it works locally | 01:38 |
| lbt | nn | 01:38 |
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| lbt | morning all | 08:51 |
| Bostik | morning'ish | 08:51 |
| lbt | :) | 08:52 |
| lbt | been up all night writing? | 08:52 |
| * lbt senses a budding author... | 08:52 | |
| Bostik | lbt: not merely budding, I actually have an ISBN code to my name :) | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: -next imported to cobs? | 08:53 |
| Bostik | but life >> rest | 08:53 |
| lbt | oooh | 08:53 |
| lbt | yup | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | was the yup to me | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:54 |
| lbt | nope | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:54 |
| lbt | yyup | 08:55 |
| lbt | that one was ^ | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | ok, good | 08:55 |
| lbt | https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor | 08:55 |
| lbt | looks like it went OK too | 08:55 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: got ssh running onto nook | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | good work | 08:57 |
| lbt | the *only* diagnostic was that when it _nearly_ booted I'd get a transient usb connection on the host | 08:58 |
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| lbt | the bug? ... wrong CHS settings on the SD card.... | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | ah, right | 08:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: also, what happened to repo/img? | 08:59 |
| lbt | repo? | 08:59 |
| Stskeeps | ** PROBLEM Host Alert: repo.in.merproject.org is DOWN ** | 08:59 |
| lbt | ty | 08:59 |
| lbt | not looked at email yet :) | 08:59 |
| zchydem | hi, trying to setup mer sdk according to https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 09:03 |
| zchydem | the VM is up and running, but when trying to ssh in it I'll get: | 09:03 |
| zchydem | ssh -p 2222 root@localhost | 09:04 |
| zchydem | ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host | 09:04 |
| lbt | zchydem: can you pastie your ssh issue - the fact it's responding sounds good | 09:04 |
| zchydem | any ideas? | 09:04 |
| zchydem | hmm, the above is the the response | 09:04 |
| lbt | any iptables? | 09:06 |
| dm8tbr | lbt / Stskeeps - if the nook is OMAP then it should not matter how the CHS is set up. if you are directly booting the OMAP then there are other things to keep in mind though. e.g. size of fat partition (odd vs even number of sectors) | 09:07 |
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| lbt | dm8tbr: that was the thing that *seemed* to matter - and http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/MMC_Boot_Format | 09:07 |
| dm8tbr | lbt: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/ro5k5r4Cuq4 | 09:08 |
| dm8tbr | it's the number of sectors that matters | 09:09 |
| lbt | zchydem: try ssh -vvv aswell - pastie result | 09:11 |
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| lbt | dm8tbr: great - ty | 09:15 |
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| CosmoHill | morning | 09:19 |
| lbt | zchydem: when you're ready | 09:20 |
| zchydem | lbt: sorry | 09:23 |
| zchydem | lbt: http://pastie.org/5364706 | 09:23 |
| zchydem | got sidetracked a bit | 09:23 |
| lbt | np :) | 09:23 |
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| CosmoHill | have you guys seen this yet: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/mer-site1.png ? | 09:25 |
| mikhas | the personal ad at the bottom is not helping, I guess (in case you want to push this as the official mer website design) | 09:32 |
| CosmoHill | it would be removed if it became offical | 09:32 |
| mikhas | ok | 09:32 |
| CosmoHill | kinda annoyed that it came out very similar to the current mer site but oh well | 09:33 |
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| * Stskeeps pokes repo.ci with a stick | 09:40 | |
| lbt | reset the phost - looking at it atm | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:41 |
| * CosmoHill borrows the stick and pokes his msn | 09:41 | |
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| lbt | zchydem: do you have personal ssh equivalence setup? | 09:48 |
| lbt | ie is ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub present in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ? | 09:48 |
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| zchydem | lbt: I just made it so | 09:51 |
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| lbt | all good now ? | 09:52 |
| zchydem | no | 09:52 |
| lbt | *g* new pastie for -vvv | 09:52 |
| lbt | also can you ssh to $USER@localhost ? | 09:52 |
| zchydem | hmm incorrect rsa identifier | 09:53 |
| zchydem | lbt: http://pastie.org/5364787 | 09:53 |
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| lbt | zchydem: sorry ... sorting vm issues | 10:09 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: stupid virsh bug | 10:10 |
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| zchydem | lbt: on OSX I can get establish ssh connection, but on Ubuntu side it fails.. | 10:13 |
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| lbt | zchydem: are you running ubuntu in a VM on an OSX machine ? | 10:18 |
| zchydem | lbt: no. I have two laptops one Mac and Other lenovo + Ubuntu | 10:21 |
| zchydem | I just tested to setup VM both | 10:21 |
| lbt | "just in case" | 10:21 |
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| zchydem | lbt: should I install guest additions for VBox? | 10:22 |
| lbt | zchydem: no | 10:22 |
| zchydem | ok | 10:22 |
| lbt | and does the ubuntu one allow ssh to itself? | 10:22 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: repo.ci is up (you probably saw) | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:22 |
| lbt | I think nested kvm probably | 10:22 |
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| lbt | also non-auto vm start | 10:23 |
| zchydem | lbt: yes | 10:24 |
| lbt | and you can ssh root@localhost -p2222 | 10:25 |
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| lbt | passwd "rootme" | 10:25 |
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| zchydem | lbt: no, then I'll get the error I pasted | 10:27 |
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| lbt | ok - so it's looking like a networking issue of some sort | 10:28 |
| lbt | any iptables ? | 10:28 |
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| lbt | sudo iptables -L -v | 10:28 |
| zchydem | lbt: checked that vm failed couple of services though | 10:30 |
| zchydem | recreate volatile files... | 10:30 |
| zchydem | and Update UTMP... | 10:30 |
| lbt | comes up blue and says "mounted home and targets successfully" ? | 10:31 |
| zchydem | lbt: yes | 10:32 |
| yunta | I've had similar problem once, after setting up second vm from the same image. Didn't solve it. Ssh worked fine for first vm, but not the second one. | 10:32 |
| lbt | hmm | 10:34 |
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| lbt | zchydem: ok, login to console as root and kill sshd | 10:35 |
| lbt | then run it manually using debug/no-fork | 10:35 |
| lbt | and we'll see wtf is happenng | 10:35 |
| zchydem | lbt: ok | 10:38 |
| zchydem | lbt: stupid question it looks like it's not even running? ps aux | grep ssh doesn't show anything | 10:39 |
| lbt | ! | 10:39 |
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| zchydem | I guess I should see a process "sshd" ? | 10:40 |
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| lbt | ah, no | 10:40 |
| lbt | systemd | 10:40 |
| zchydem | so systemctl sshd.service stop? | 10:40 |
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| lbt | systemctl should show sshd.socket | 10:41 |
| zchydem | yes | 10:41 |
| lbt | systemctl stop sshd.socket | 10:41 |
| zchydem | ok | 10:41 |
| lbt | then /usr/bin/sshd -d | 10:43 |
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| * lbt -> coffee .... bbiab .. keep pasting :) | 10:47 | |
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| * zchydem gonna get coffee too | 10:53 | |
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| sledges | good morning! | 10:55 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 10:55 |
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| zchydem | lbt: http://pastie.org/5365058 | 10:56 |
| sledges | how's it going? :) | 10:56 |
| Stskeeps | morn sledges, how was ELCE? | 10:57 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, awesome, have you seen my pics of Mer @ ELCE @ G+ ? ;) | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | show me? | 10:58 |
| sledges | it's under #merproject | 11:01 |
| sledges | https://plus.google.com/u/0/113221121232287197533/posts/EvSR6RSAxH5 | 11:01 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe, good | 11:03 |
| zumbi | Barcelona was nice Ñ= | 11:03 |
| zumbi | :) | 11:03 |
| CosmoHill | sledges: .o/ | 11:04 |
| sledges | lol now 10+ people pop up to have been there :) | 11:04 |
| CosmoHill | sledges: you're in england right, what ISP are you with? | 11:04 |
| sledges | heya CosmoHill , my workplace just switched to 20Mbps symmetric virginemedia | 11:04 |
| sledges | yes, Barsa was very nice, during and after the presentations :)) | 11:05 |
| CosmoHill | bah, viginmedia won't supply us, they'll supply both our neighbours tho | 11:05 |
| sledges | dm8tbr, just talking about our pic ;) ^ | 11:06 |
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| sledges | they have also had a tizen troll group pic :D | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | tizen troll? :P | 11:06 |
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| sledges | yea, the group asking troll | 11:06 |
| sledges | questions in tizen presentations | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i think i might know who's been part | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: any good ideas on how to debug obs dependencies? got a real mystery on why on earth a package gets pulled into a build | 11:07 |
| zchydem | lbt: I decided to recreate VM and now it works out of box | 11:09 |
| zchydem | Don't know what went wrong in the first time | 11:09 |
| lbt | zchydem: OK, good to know | 11:09 |
| * zchydem bangs his head to the wall | 11:09 | |
| yunta | Stskeeps: rpmgraph ? | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | yunta: it seems to be an issue in obs itself | 11:09 |
| zchydem | lbt: so I have compiled QtC Mer and I'd like to know how to continue | 11:10 |
| lbt | zchydem: OK | 11:10 |
| lbt | sorry, being attacked by kittens ... | 11:10 |
| zchydem | :) | 11:10 |
| lbt | right ... so, do you have a mer button on left? | 11:11 |
| zchydem | no | 11:12 |
| lbt | ok, not good | 11:12 |
| zchydem | I guess I need to setup paths/kits | 11:12 |
| lbt | no | 11:12 |
| zchydem | ah ok:) | 11:12 |
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| lbt | did you build the mer branch? | 11:12 |
| zchydem | btw, should I run qtcreator.sh | 11:12 |
| zchydem | sec.. | 11:12 |
| lbt | I run bin/qtcreator | 11:12 |
| zchydem | lbt: ups, no. I'm gonna build the correct stuff first | 11:13 |
| lbt | minor changes so no need to clean | 11:13 |
| zchydem | lbt: just to make sure is it enought to clone this only: git://gitorious.org/+mer-qt-creator/qt-creator/mer-qt-creator.git or should I pull "mer" branch? | 11:19 |
| lbt | once you've cloned: git checkout mer | 11:20 |
| lbt | that will switch to the mer branch and you're good | 11:20 |
| lbt | so you must have cloned already - so just do the checkout and then make -jN | 11:21 |
| lbt | mm may need qmake -r | 11:21 |
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| zchydem | sure | 11:22 |
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| * Stskeeps really hopes this isn't what he thinks it is.. | 11:22 | |
| Stskeeps | i have a sneaking suspicion that OBS reads "Conflicts:" as "this is a require~!" | 11:23 |
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| CosmoHill | you mean link bash.spec requiring bash.rpm already being installed? | 11:24 |
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| dm8tbr | sledges: boy do I look grim on that one... | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: did you just go to a tizen talk before that photo? | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:26 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: isn't ~! a double negative ? :) | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: seriously though.. i have a Conflicts: qt-qmake | 11:27 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: I think that was the day after the tizen talks... | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | dm8tbr: ah, hangover | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | gotcha | 11:27 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: Ryan had his share of 'fun' with me there... | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: and it adds it as a requires.. | 11:27 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: whut? which project/setup? | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: mer's qtbase packaging.. something's really fried somewhere | 11:28 |
| lbt | tha'ts wrong | 11:28 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: because I had to explicitly tell in obs prjconf to "Prefer: .." a negative dep | 11:28 |
| lbt | I could BR something I conflict with :) | 11:28 |
| Bostik | just a minute | 11:28 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/prjconf?project=home%3Abostik%3AQt5a1 | 11:28 |
| Bostik | that helped me | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: yeah.. but it shouldn't happen in first place ;) | 11:29 |
| sledges | dm8tbr, I think your face talks determination about Mer :) (kind of - we'll kick your asses :)) | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | i'm just buildrequires: qt5-qmake | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | and it drags in qt-qmake too | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:29 |
| sledges | do you have tizen troll photo, dm8tbr ? | 11:29 |
| Bostik | that's nasty then | 11:30 |
| Bostik | ahhhhh FSCK | 11:30 |
| Bostik | hmm, no... qt5-devel -> Requires: qt5-qmake | 11:31 |
| Bostik | qt5-qtcore-devel, that is | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | something really fishy is going on | 11:31 |
| Bostik | at no point do I refer to raw "qt-qmake", I believe | 11:31 |
| lbt | autoreqprov ? | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | i'm building a qtbase without the Conflicts: | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | and if that's it, i'm going to go cry into my pillow | 11:32 |
| lbt | so what do you think is happening? | 11:33 |
| lbt | it's actually adding a Require by mistake? | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | i think that the SAT solver sees conflicts: as a requires: when it's doing the buildrequires | 11:34 |
| Bostik | eq | 11:34 |
| Bostik | that would be evil | 11:34 |
| lbt | which obs ? | 11:34 |
| lbt | merci ? | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | seen it on cobs and merproject so far | 11:35 |
| lbt | merci is newer - so just wondered if it was fixed | 11:35 |
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| dm8tbr | sledges: there is one of the troll meetup and one of me advertizing it | 11:38 |
| sledges | give 'em all for a laugh :)) | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | seriously though, was there more meat than last year's talks? | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:40 |
| sledges | well, only once I did not know which talk to attend | 11:41 |
| sledges | but only 1 or two I will try to catch up from videos | 11:41 |
| dm8tbr | Stskeeps: the security talk was ok and after I drilled in I saw lessons learned | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, tizen security i have nothing to poke at | 11:43 |
| mikhas | dm8tbr, at devdays? | 11:44 |
| mikhas | dm8tbr, third conference in a row then, no? | 11:44 |
| JvD_ | linuxcon was good but barcelona did not leave a good tasted on me.. my n950 was stolen on saturday | 11:45 |
| dm8tbr | mikhas: I was last week at ELCE/LCE/Tizen/KVM/oVirt/Wireless/whatever/bla/foo in barcelona, yes | 11:45 |
| dm8tbr | JvD_: ouch! | 11:45 |
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| JvD_ | yeah | 11:45 |
| mikhas | :-( | 11:45 |
| macmaN | damn them ho's | 11:45 |
| sledges | not good; yup the ho's were outrageous :) | 11:45 |
| JvD_ | i hope harmattan security keeps the device useless | 11:46 |
| CosmoHill | if someone stole my phone they'd hand it back after they saw it | 11:46 |
| sledges | dm8tbr, did any of your pockets got shaken (I know you had a wholesome of awesomely Nxx devices :) | 11:46 |
| sledges | JvD_, you mean they cannot access your data once they turn the phone on, and the phone realises it's not you? :) | 11:47 |
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| dm8tbr | sledges: luckily no | 11:47 |
| JvD_ | i mean they can't use it | 11:47 |
| sledges | wonder what thieves would do with a non mainstream-market phone :) | 11:48 |
| JvD_ | well ebay | 11:48 |
| Sage_ | Jake9xx: lbt: https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check/pull/2 | 11:48 |
| sledges | oh, better watch out then :) | 11:48 |
| sledges | you might probably get it back :) (I don't remember any other N950s out there on ebay) | 11:48 |
| sledges | and report them :D | 11:48 |
| Bostik | CosmoHill: classmate in junior high got pickpocketed in Rome - little buggers surrounded him and took what he had in his back pocket; before he knew what had happened, one of them came back and offered him the item back with apologies; they had stolen a crappy pocket calculator.... | 11:49 |
| mikhas | sledges, they will think it's Nokia prototype and try to blackmail Nokia for money, or else they will release spec & pics. | 11:50 |
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| sledges | yup, true thiefs-hackers | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok, something really really fishy is going on with Prefer: libqt-devel | 11:52 |
| sroedal | Bostik: what, they apologized for stealing something so crappy? | 11:52 |
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| koala_ | Stskeeps : hello stskeeps | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: hey | 11:54 |
| Bostik | sroedal: yep :) | 11:55 |
| Bostik | sroedal: they apologised for taking something which was useless for them, but which the owner might actually considered useful | 11:55 |
| sroedal | Bostik: hehe, ok | 11:55 |
| sroedal | how nice of them | 11:56 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps: after the last talk we had, I got something to do for myself, so I didn't send a log to you. And your hybris works now. | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: cool, congratulations :) | 11:56 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps: but I have one more question. | 11:57 |
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| zchydem | lbt: now I've QtC with Mer button | 11:59 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: sure, please ask | 11:59 |
| lbt | zchydem: OK - and that shows the webapp on the VM ? | 11:59 |
| lbt | oh, bug triage rsn | 12:02 |
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| koala_ | Stskeeps : the window management of qt application is not good. for example, a qt test app(mainwindow) look nice at first, but after click a menu of it, all window are erased except the menu window. | 12:02 |
| zchydem | lbt: no it doesn't show that | 12:02 |
| zchydem | lbt: btw, which one is the right port it 9292 or 80? there were both mentioned in the docs | 12:03 |
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| koala_ | Stskeeps : I think it could be caused by egl composition issue due to not supporting it. | 12:03 |
| sroedal | koala_: is this eglfs? | 12:04 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps : I just hope to know it's normal action to the others | 12:04 |
| koala_ | yes | 12:04 |
| sroedal | koala_: it doesn't support multiple top level windows | 12:04 |
| sroedal | koala_: you'd need qtwayland for that currently | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: yeah, you're more likely to have a better experience doing qml applications | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: we are working on wayland support for libhybris but not there yet | 12:04 |
| lbt | zchydem: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Setting_up_and_Networking | 12:04 |
| lbt | to be fair the image is wrong | 12:05 |
| koala_ | stskeeps: then it's normal action with eglfs. | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 12:05 |
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| zchydem | lbt: so 9292 | 12:06 |
| lbt | in the NAT settings, yes | 12:06 |
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| lbt | so a browser on the host should see webapp on 127.0.0.1:8080 | 12:07 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps : maybe you and friends in this group doesn't interested with hp webos? :) | 12:08 |
| zchydem | lbt: it's not working either | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: well, the openwebos people are using libhybris too | 12:09 |
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| Stskeeps | koala_: i'm not really interested in it as i think they should rebase on mer, but :) | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | we can collaborate on libhybris parts and common challenges | 12:09 |
| lbt | hey auri__ | 12:10 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps : it's could be good direction.. | 12:11 |
| auri__ | hey | 12:11 |
| auri__ | lbt: hey | 12:11 |
| lbt | auri__: aportale got the web button working | 12:12 |
| lbt | zchydem: fixed image on wiki | 12:12 |
| auri__ | ah cool | 12:12 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps : you may not know it. but have you heared about composition of lunasysmgr? | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: yeah, you should talk to the guys in #webos-ports :) they're having same challenges | 12:13 |
| lbt | zchydem: so may need to login to sdk VM and start it manually - henrik_ has a fix pending for his systemd links | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: i think it would make most sense to jump to qt5 and wayland when possible | 12:13 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps: ok Thank you very much | 12:14 |
| lbt | zchydem: I thought I'd patched that | 12:14 |
| zchydem | lbt: ok | 12:14 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: bugs? | 12:14 |
| lbt | iekku: is awol | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: let's try again at 2pm | 12:14 |
| lbt | k | 12:14 |
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| auri__ | am rite now at the DD.. wlan kinda sucks here | 12:15 |
| lbt | auri__: ah, neat - you can rave about Mer :) | 12:16 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: erm in 1:45 ? | 12:16 |
| * lbt used local TZ :) | 12:16 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: 45 min | 12:16 |
| auri__ | I prob could have done another talk .. I already have one on QML tools.. | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Zephyr is my own plan for building blocks for the future | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/qmlcomponentgallery.png | 12:18 |
| auri__ | but you are taking care of it @ NA anyways :) | 12:19 |
| kontio | ping vesse | 12:20 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps : oh.. it's really cool... | 12:20 |
| koala_ | Stskeeps : Thank you for the sharing. | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | no problem :) | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | koala_: what chipset was it you got it working on, if i may ask? | 12:22 |
| Stskeeps | trying to keep track of where it has been confirmed to work | 12:22 |
| koala_ | stskeeps: it's qct msm8660 snapdragon. | 12:25 |
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| Stskeeps | alright, same as my touchpad | 12:26 |
| koala_ | stskeeps: oh.. it's duplication.. | 12:26 |
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| iekku | oh s**t! | 12:42 |
| iekku | sorry, being too busy with work | 12:42 |
| iekku | in 18 minutes | 12:43 |
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| auri__ | just pulled and built qtc | 13:04 |
| auri__ | looks good.. at least to a developers eyes :P | 13:04 |
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| auri__ | btw what is the "Mer" mode supposed to do?" | 13:05 |
| iekku | mer bug triage? | 13:08 |
| henrik_ | lbt: what do you want next to webapp. Mic? | 13:08 |
| lbt | auri__: web ui | 13:09 |
| lbt | henrik_: redo the CSS to fit in latest qtc and fix systemd links in post | 13:09 |
| henrik_ | lbt: what's wrong in post atm? | 13:10 |
| lbt | not sure zchydem had it not start, I think I have too | 13:10 |
| henrik_ | well zchydem didn't have the webapp in the image | 13:10 |
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| henrik_ | has now | 13:10 |
| lbt | henrik_: ah, old download? | 13:10 |
| lbt | is the url wrong? | 13:10 |
| lbt | oop - lost auri | 13:11 |
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| henrik_ | lbt: i think zchydem didn't use vm build by yunta/me as a start. so it didnt' have the home projects in. | 13:14 |
| lbt | OK | 13:15 |
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| yunta | uh | 13:15 |
| lbt | so... | 13:16 |
| lbt | I think the wiki link needs an update | 13:16 |
| zchydem | lbt & henrik_ so I used the link from the wikipage. Downloaded vmi couple of days ago | 13:16 |
| zchydem | today it didn't work | 13:16 |
| lbt | I think we need to improve integration to remove home from ks | 13:16 |
| yunta | henrik_: got disconnected without realizing, did I miss anything? | 13:16 |
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| lbt | also we need to add a bit on getting correct target installed | 13:16 |
| lbt | I gave one to aportale last night | 13:17 |
| zchydem | So now I'm trying to add a target for Mer, but it gives me "Failed to add Qt Version" ? | 13:17 |
| lbt | http://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121111-184729/ | 13:17 |
| lbt | that should be a proper Nemo minimal target | 13:17 |
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| henrik_ | yunta: not really. lbt said css so it fits to qtcreator better | 13:18 |
| lbt | henrik_: yunta pull latest mer branch for the Mer button to VM www | 13:18 |
| henrik_ | lbt: did that. it's visible. at least "set as default" test doesn't fit to button. | 13:19 |
| yunta | mer branch? of qtcreator? | 13:19 |
| lbt | yunta: yes | 13:20 |
| henrik_ | yunta: git://gitorious.org/+mer-qt-creator/qt-creator/mer-qt-creator.git | 13:20 |
| yunta | uh | 13:20 |
| lbt | that's the repo - there's a branch in there too | 13:20 |
| lbt | zchydem: so docs to add a target ... | 13:20 |
| lbt | zchydem: should be Mer button -> targets, add using toolchain/name/rootfs url | 13:22 |
| zchydem | lbt: yes, that's pretty much how I did it | 13:23 |
| lbt | then tools->Mer->targets->add and select the target | 13:23 |
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| zchydem | hmm or should I do it from scratch? | 13:23 |
| zchydem | It already shows my old target | 13:24 |
| lbt | so long as they have distinct names that's OK | 13:24 |
| zchydem | lbt: looks like the name of the target should be the same as the directory where the rootfs is | 13:29 |
| lbt | yes | 13:29 |
| zchydem | Now I need to test my connection | 13:29 |
| VDVsx | lbt, so, can I use that directly in my linux host in qtcreator without vbox ? | 13:32 |
| lbt | also I'd like to see bugs for things we need to fix too | 13:32 |
| lbt | VDVsx: yes - but it'd be nice to use VM for a week to provide feedback | 13:33 |
| lbt | once VM approach is stable we can look at chroot and even lxc | 13:33 |
| VDVsx | lbt, I can also provide feedback on chroot approach :P | 13:34 |
| lbt | yeah, but it'll distract me and I need to focus on VM | 13:34 |
| lbt | s/I/we/ :) | 13:34 |
| VDVsx | I guess lots of people will prefer chroot approach | 13:34 |
| lbt | for sure | 13:34 |
| VDVsx | since is faster | 13:34 |
| lbt | yep, though I do want to fix VM speed a lot | 13:35 |
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| sledges | just got a i.MX6 SABRE dev board, mmmmm :)~~~~ | 13:46 |
| sledges | wonder how KDE PA or nemo would spin on it | 13:47 |
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| lbt | zchydem: you've gone quiet ... is this good? | 13:56 |
| zchydem | lbt: just tired:) | 13:59 |
| lbt | I know the feeling - hell of a weekend | 14:00 |
| zchydem | it's complaining about the key whent trying to test the connection | 14:00 |
| zchydem | dunno, what's wrong there | 14:00 |
| lbt | you should be using the file without a .pub | 14:00 |
| lbt | (you probably know ... but) | 14:00 |
| zchydem | basic ssh-keygen -trsa|dsa yes, and then I'm pointing it to id_rsa | 14:01 |
| zchydem | and the pub has been copied to authorized_keys? | 14:01 |
| VDVsx | lbt: when I try to run vm for first time: failed to open a session for the virtual machine MerSDK. | 14:01 |
| VDVsx | VT-x features locked or unavailable in MSR. (VERR_VMX_MSR_LOCKED_OR_DISABLED). | 14:01 |
| lbt | zchydem: no, it uses it internally | 14:01 |
| lbt | zchydem: it's the same one you used in a manual ssh to mersdk | 14:01 |
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| zchydem | so what's the right way to do it | 14:01 |
| lbt | mersdk == $USER in host | 14:01 |
| lbt | usually /home/zchydem/.ssh/id_rsa | 14:02 |
| lbt | VDVsx: BIOS virtualisation enabled? | 14:02 |
| * lbt waits for "VDVsx has left this server" | 14:03 | |
| VDVsx | lbt, why :P | 14:03 |
| lbt | I forget you access irc telepathically | 14:03 |
| VDVsx | I followed blindly the wiki on propose :p | 14:03 |
| VDVsx | So lets check | 14:04 |
| lbt | "The website at https://www.virtualbox.org/ has a a lot of useful information" | 14:04 |
| lbt | actually - can you find a basic checklist there? | 14:04 |
| VDVsx | well, I was expecting "Works out of the box" | 14:04 |
| VDVsx | :P | 14:04 |
| lbt | well, it kinda assumes your machine boots too | 14:05 |
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| lbt | so it depends on a *working* Virtualbox installation *g* | 14:05 |
| VDVsx | it works fine for other vm :) | 14:05 |
| lbt | ah, right | 14:07 |
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| lbt | that is a problem then | 14:07 |
| VDVsx | lbt, do you want to is the problem ? :P | 14:07 |
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| zchydem | lbt: any ideas why "decoding private key failed. Format not understood" or Other is "Server rejected key" | 14:08 |
| lbt | VDVsx: too little memory? | 14:08 |
| VDVsx | lbt, it happens when I add more than one cpu | 14:09 |
| lbt | VDVsx: OK, don't do that then | 14:09 |
| VDVsx | lbt, instructions says: "In System/Processor enable PAE/NX and allocate as many CPUs as your host has. " | 14:09 |
| VDVsx | :D | 14:09 |
| lbt | http://news.metaparadigma.de/win-oracle-virtualbox-workaround-for-initialization-issue-3395/ | 14:09 |
| zchydem | lbt: so getttin gthe docoding error, when there's a password and without it gets rejected | 14:09 |
| lbt | zchydem: passphrase protected key? | 14:10 |
| zchydem | I've tried everything already:) | 14:10 |
| lbt | zchydem: so does "ssh mersdk@localhost -p 2222" work? | 14:11 |
| auri__ | zchydem: did you specify your public key or private key in the settings dialog? | 14:11 |
| auri__ | \me suffers from poor wifi | 14:11 |
| * auri__ susffers from poor wifi | 14:11 | |
| zchydem | lbt: yes, it asks password | 14:11 |
| zchydem | so the connection should be fine | 14:12 |
| zchydem | auri__: the private | 14:12 |
| lbt | auri__: does Qt ssh cope with passphrase-protected keys? | 14:12 |
| lbt | VDVsx: so, can you check your BIOS ? | 14:13 |
| zchydem | lbt & auri__ I need to go now and continue later | 14:13 |
| lbt | I'll be here | 14:13 |
| zchydem | I think this can't be a big issue | 14:13 |
| zchydem | maybe I'm just too tired to see it at this point | 14:13 |
| lbt | nope - auri__ we may want better debug - ssh is a black art for most people | 14:13 |
| zchydem | cu | 14:14 |
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| auri__ | lbt: yes, a dialog should popup for the password | 14:15 |
| VDVsx | lbt, no now, I'm building qtcreator :P | 14:16 |
| VDVsx | not | 14:16 |
| lbt | ok - you got the Mer branch ? | 14:17 |
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| VDVsx | lbt, yes | 14:22 |
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| VDVsx | lbt, trying to build against my own build of qt, let's see if it fails :D | 14:23 |
| yunta | VDVsx: you may try restarting make with -j6 or something... | 14:23 |
| yunta | it fails for me, but works for henrik_ | 14:23 |
| lbt | make should respect N so -jN does the right thing | 14:24 |
| yunta | it should, but it fails miserably for me | 14:25 |
| lbt | I mean literally "N" | 14:25 |
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| yunta | uh | 14:26 |
| yunta | what does it do? :) | 14:27 |
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| phaeron | take a wild guess :D | 14:27 |
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| henrik_ | lbt: does the vdi file work btw. I just created raw and that seems to be ok. I wonder if vdi works as well? | 14:40 |
| lbt | I use vdi | 14:40 |
| yunta | henrik_: VDI failed for me last time I tried it | 14:41 |
| lbt | VBoxManage convertfromraw mer-sdk-nemo-i486-vm-sda.raw mer-sdk-nemo-i486-vm-sda.vdi --format VDI --variant Standard,Fixed | 14:41 |
| lbt | that's the uncompressed version - not sure what it gets you over raw - maybe snapshots? | 14:41 |
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| henrik_ | lbt: well the vdi failed. "mic create(cr): unknown command: 'vdi'" | 14:44 |
| lbt | oh, gotcha | 14:44 |
| lbt | on IMG | 14:44 |
| henrik_ | lbt: should i add link to raw with instruction howto convert | 14:44 |
| lbt | yeah - that's broken | 14:44 |
| lbt | you make a raw and then convert it | 14:45 |
| lbt | see the end of the image log.... | 14:45 |
| lbt | if you have an image there and want it to be made into a vdi/bz2 then ask me to do that - takes a few seconds | 14:46 |
| yunta | so, having this new qtcreator compiled and running, what can I do with it? | 14:46 |
| lbt | henrik_: note that 'progress' should show any activity happening on any page (or does it?) | 14:48 |
| lbt | yunta: sec | 14:48 |
| henrik_ | lbt: it should | 14:48 |
| lbt | neat | 14:48 |
| lbt | yunta: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Using_QtCreator | 14:50 |
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| yunta | lbt: so I've added target in webapp and qtcreator's options | 15:16 |
| yunta | opened random project, added my target to it through random manipulations, and: | 15:17 |
| yunta | :-1: error: The Qt version is invalid: Could not determine the path to the binaries of the Qt installation, maybe the qmake path is wrong? | 15:17 |
| lbt | woah | 15:17 |
| lbt | did the add come up 'OK' | 15:18 |
| yunta | hm, no idea, can't see any failure | 15:18 |
| lbt | "Successfully added target" | 15:18 |
| yunta | ok, just redone it, yes, succesfully added target | 15:19 |
| lbt | ok | 15:19 |
| lbt | so now Kit | 15:19 |
| lbt | do you see Qt version and compiler in 'Build & Run' | 15:19 |
| lbt | (for your target) | 15:20 |
| yunta | I see my target in add kit | 15:20 |
| yunta | after adding it, can't see no versions | 15:21 |
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| lbt | You should see several tabs; the Qt Versions and Compilers should have the values filled in for your Mer target. | 15:21 |
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| yunta | hm, something complains that my target's qt doesn't support shadow builds | 15:22 |
| lbt | we'll get auri to look at that - need to record a bug/note somewhere though | 15:22 |
| yunta | kit ~~ target ? | 15:23 |
| lbt | yeah | 15:23 |
| yunta | and there's one tab per kit there? | 15:23 |
| yunta | looks like it... | 15:24 |
| yunta | ok then, I'll file a bug when I get home | 15:24 |
| lbt | it's cosmetic | 15:27 |
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| * CosmoHill growls | 15:59 | |
| CosmoHill | my ISP offered me a new deal, all I have to do is phone them | 16:00 |
| CosmoHill | I don't want the deal nor can I get through to them | 16:00 |
| CosmoHill | the phone number on their website is wrong and their "press 1 for blah" thing just repeats and repeats instead of putting you through to someone | 16:00 |
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| faenil | o/ | 16:04 |
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| sledges | Failed to open /dev/kmsg for logging: No such file or directory | 16:09 |
| sledges | ^ that's on imx6, their kernel, mer-lipstick image | 16:09 |
| sledges | where can I download readymade images for mer-core-armv7hl-connectivity-xorg-basic-qmlviewer ? | 16:12 |
| vgrade_ | sledges: check your .config with https://github.com/lbt/mer-kernel-check | 16:19 |
| lbt | sledges: you can get .ks files which are next best thing | 16:21 |
| lbt | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20121101.1/kickstarts/ | 16:21 |
| lbt | so either run them through mic to get a rootfs or add HA and pkgs to get a real image | 16:22 |
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| sledges | ah ok, so you guys don't keep premade ones anymore :} ok will try | 16:24 |
| sledges | vgrade_, thanks, will update some wiki pages as well with your wonderful i-once-had-but-lost link :) | 16:24 |
| vgrade_ | sledges: its on the kernel adaptation page :) | 16:25 |
| sledges | vgrade_, unfortunately don't have kernel source for this :{ | 16:25 |
| vgrade_ | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide | 16:26 |
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| vgrade_ | and this is a GPL kernel, tut tut | 16:27 |
| sledges | vgrade_, yes, mer wiki after "kernel config | 16:27 |
| sledges | came up with: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptation_Guide/Step_by_step :{ | 16:27 |
| sledges | :) | 16:27 |
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| sledges | vgrade_, yes, just can't be bothered right now to build from source (nor to build a qmlviewer images) -- apparently lazyness will ban me today :) | 16:28 |
| * lbt gets the feeling that clicking on the link would be a bit taxing anyhow... | 16:29 | |
| sledges | taxing as in money, or as in airplane? :) | 16:30 |
| lbt | As in typical hardware engineer: "it sounds complicated; can't one of you guys just come round and install it whilst I have a beer?" | 16:30 |
| sledges | :) no, im just pointing out that intuitive search in mer wiki does not list Adaptation Guide as search results | 16:32 |
| sledges | but only adaptation_guide/step_by_step | 16:32 |
| sledges | whilst searching for "kernel config" | 16:33 |
| lbt | try this link: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=Adaptation_Guide&action=edit§ion=1 | 16:33 |
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| sledges | x) thank you lbt | 16:35 |
| * lbt is ever so helpful sometimes :) | 16:35 | |
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| lbt | so, I don't see an edit yet sledges... | 16:36 |
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| sledges | lbt, done :D | 16:39 |
| lbt | ty :) | 16:40 |
| * sledges is ever so proactive sometimes :)) | 16:40 | |
| lbt | *g* | 16:40 |
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| sledges | PATH=$PATH:/sbin sudo mic cr fs -o /parentroot/srv/nfs/imx6-mer-minimal/ --pkgmgr=zypp mer.ks -A armv7hl says | 16:43 |
| sledges | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/zypp.py", line 55, in _swig_getattr raise AttributeError(name) | 16:44 |
| lbt | latest SDK has the PATH fix FYI | 16:44 |
| sledges | ahh and the error was caused by pkgmgr=zypp :( | 16:44 |
| sledges | removed it and now off it goes | 16:44 |
| sledges | ta lbt for patchinfo | 16:44 |
| lbt | yup, we mainly use yum | 16:45 |
| sledges | yum, .. | 16:45 |
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| sledges | yup :) | 16:45 |
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| Bostik | oh, qt5-beta2 tomorrow | 17:29 |
| Bostik | I get to update packaging, it seems | 17:29 |
| sledges | Bostik \o/, you sounded like you've just drawn a short match :) | 17:30 |
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| Bostik | sledges: this should be relatively easy, compared to a1->b1 churn :) | 17:33 |
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| VDVsx | lbt, after following all the steps in the wiki and building my own creator, I'm getting this: "The SDK VM is not responding", I can access the vm via ssh | 18:10 |
| lbt | is that http on 8080 ? | 18:12 |
| zchydem | VDVsx: you need to add there couple of repos and install sdk-webapp + sdk-vm | 18:13 |
| zchydem | those are missing | 18:13 |
| zchydem | lbt: ^ | 18:13 |
| VDVsx | zchydem, ah, any links ? | 18:14 |
| zchydem | henrik_: gave me couple of repos, just a sec | 18:14 |
| lbt | there's a new vdi | 18:15 |
| VDVsx | if that solves, links links please :P | 18:15 |
| lbt | http://img.merproject.org/images//web/henrik/6-20121112-144546/ | 18:15 |
| zchydem | lbt: ok, gonna try that too | 18:15 |
| lbt | totally untested | 18:15 |
| zchydem | :) | 18:15 |
| lbt | http://img.merproject.org/images//web/henrik/6-20121112-144546/mer-sdk-i486-wip.ks | 18:16 |
| lbt | dunno if it has the systemd service file patched | 18:16 |
| * sivang tries to remember why sdk requires a vm | 18:16 | |
| lbt | may need to systemctl start sdk_webapp.service | 18:16 |
| lbt | sivang: windows/mac | 18:17 |
| sivang | ah...:) | 18:17 |
| * VDVsx is running linux, but lbt promised cookies :P | 18:17 | |
| sivang | VDVsx: cookies for trying it under VBOx? :) | 18:17 |
| sivang | testing might warrant that, granted | 18:17 |
| VDVsx | just for testing it out :) | 18:18 |
| sivang | lbt: where are my cookies for almost fixing that sudo bug? :-D | 18:18 |
| zchydem | lbt: btw, do you think if I have existing /srv/mer/targets it goes hand-by-hand with this new VM setup? At least the webapp displays old targets | 18:18 |
| sivang | lol | 18:18 |
| lbt | sivang: fosdem ? | 18:18 |
| sivang | lbt: I wish, I'd rather SLUSH it instead | 18:18 |
| lbt | sivang: you coming? | 18:18 |
| lbt | zchydem: they shouldn't interfere | 18:18 |
| sivang | lbt: I'd die to | 18:18 |
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| sivang | lbt: employer hasn't paid salary since september, hard to tell / plan | 18:19 |
| lbt | and you're not in .fi are you ? | 18:19 |
| zchydem | sivang: should you consider changing an employer ? Your current one doesn't sound fair | 18:20 |
| sivang | lbt: nope | 18:20 |
| lbt | :/ | 18:21 |
| sivang | zchydem: life's not always fair :) | 18:21 |
| zchydem | true | 18:21 |
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| sivang | zchydem: he's in deep financial trouble hence why he failed to pay salaries, I hope it'll get sorted somehow. | 18:23 |
| sivang | lbt: I promised Stskeeps to test Zephyr-land, so far life got in the way ;) | 18:23 |
| lbt | :) | 18:23 |
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| shmerl | Hi! | 18:24 |
| lbt | ok - I updated link to image on wiki to that one ^^ so VDVsx let me know asap if it's good | 18:24 |
| lbt | hey shmerl | 18:24 |
| sivang | VDVsx: what linux are you running btw? | 18:24 |
| shmerl | Does anyone know about PengPod tablet? It supposedly can run Mer/PlasmaActive with GPU acceleration. | 18:25 |
| VDVsx | sivang, ubuntu | 18:25 |
| shmerl | But I didn't see published images. | 18:25 |
| sivang | VDVsx: cool :) | 18:25 |
| VDVsx | lbt, bunzinping it :D | 18:25 |
| VDVsx | lbt, now I've a empty white page in creator, is that good ? :) | 18:28 |
| CosmoHill | i showed my friend the mer site i made and he started picking apart the spelling i took from the real mer website | 18:28 |
| VDVsx | lbt, ok, was just a bit slow, nice ui now :) | 18:29 |
| lbt | good | 18:29 |
| shmerl | @lbt: Do you know if anyone plans to work on packaging VP8 and Opus? If not, I'll be interesting in doing that. | 18:29 |
| VDVsx | lbt, very cool stuff :) | 18:30 |
| sivang | CosmoHill: which site? | 18:30 |
| VDVsx | just broken instructions :P hehehhe | 18:30 |
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| lbt | shmerl: sounds good. Stskeeps would know for sure | 18:30 |
| lbt | VDVsx: yep, please fix or ask+fix if you're not sure | 18:31 |
| lbt | some docs are from memory | 18:31 |
| shmerl | I'm actually a bit surprised it's not in Mer yet, given all the upcoming Jolla / PA releases. | 18:31 |
| sivang | VDVsx: many docs need help and fixing, we should organize a doc day sometime soon for that. | 18:31 |
| shmerl | Unless they plan to ship them with their additional packages. | 18:31 |
| sivang | VDVsx: so far I haven't found many community people interested in that, are you ? | 18:32 |
| VDVsx | sivang, I'm not very good at docs, prefer coding related tasks :) | 18:33 |
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| shmerl | lbt: are there any good guides for packaging and RPM etc? I never worked with that. | 18:33 |
| zchydem | lbt VDVsx with new vdi things work much better.. at least webapp works | 18:33 |
| lbt | zchydem: good | 18:33 |
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| shmerl | I.e. with some Mer specifics | 18:34 |
| Cosmo[PB] | i hate my isp so much right now... | 18:34 |
| VDVsx | zchydem, lbt so now was just the wiki instructions for me, problem was the image, I didn't install anything else | 18:34 |
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| VDVsx | well compiled creator, but I hope it will be offered already packaged :) | 18:35 |
| lbt | shmerl: http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm-snapshot/ for rpm .. then look at a similar pkg here. we also use spectacle - see wiki | 18:35 |
| sivang | VDVsx: sure, but if you find inconsistant stuff or error, you'd be praised if you toss them here for future reference and work: https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512 | 18:35 |
| Merbot` | Mer bug 512 in Mer Wiki "organize a doc day to put the wiki into shape, clean it up, and make sure is accurate." [Normal,New] | 18:35 |
| lbt | VDVsx: no, we're going for more of an LFS approach | 18:35 |
| zchydem | VDVsx: I have banged my head to the wall the whole day. Now I already feel like a professional here:) | 18:35 |
| shmerl | lbt: thanks | 18:36 |
| lbt | zchydem: what was the block in the end? just the vdi not starting the webapp | 18:36 |
| VDVsx | zchydem, ok, so I was lucky, I started only late afternoon :P but after you was easier, hehe | 18:36 |
| lbt | shmerl: a bit frantic atm - there are some packaging docs / guides on wiki | 18:37 |
| zchydem | lbt: let's see if I manage to compile anything. I havent tried that yet | 18:37 |
| sivang | shmerl: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail | 18:37 |
| lbt | yup = I think the scripts are broken in git too :( | 18:37 |
| zchydem | lbt: and still need to figure out if the rsa/key-thingy works | 18:37 |
| sivang | shmerl: and if you miss something or find inaccuracies, please by all means, I'd thank you forever if you toss them in the bug report I referenced VDVsx to | 18:37 |
| shmerl | Sure | 18:37 |
| sivang | shmerl: other than that any RPM guide for writing spec files and aligning dir structures should work | 18:38 |
| sivang | shmerl: there is even some on the wiki, still looking one for you | 18:38 |
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| shmerl | Is it advisable to write one scrom scratch, or let's say take some ready RPM spec like from Fedora / OpenSuse and try to fit it? | 18:40 |
| shmerl | *from | 18:40 |
| sivang | shmerl: you could, YMMV , basically. See also this https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_Community_OBS | 18:41 |
| sivang | shmerl: you could also take one of the existing Mer .spec(s) and do the same, might give yo ubetter idea of deps and such | 18:41 |
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| shmerl | OK. I saw some discussion that Mer uses the newest RPM features, while some distros still use older ones, so using ready specs can be messy. | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | use spectacle as scratch template, helps a lot to get started | 18:44 |
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| Cosmo[PB] | it's as if my ISP don't want me to use the internet... | 18:44 |
| Cosmo[PB] | sivang: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/mer-site1.png | 18:45 |
| shmerl | Stskeeps: Thanks. You mean this? https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Spectacle | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, look at existing .yamls | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | and adapt to your use | 18:46 |
| Stskeeps | that's how i learnt | 18:46 |
| shmerl | OK | 18:46 |
| sivang | I'm surprised we don't have a local rpm writing guide, I recalled we had something like that on the wiki somehwere | 18:46 |
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| Jake9xx | sivang: here's one pitfall btw - if you use vim on empty spec it creates you a template which does not comply with e.g. bossbot's reqs. | 18:51 |
| zchydem | lbt: does this sound familiar, now I can login with ssh -p2222 mersdk@localhost but not from QtC ? | 18:52 |
| sivang | Jake9xx: then someone needs to update the template :) | 18:52 |
| lbt | zchydem: they you're telling qtc the wrong key | 18:52 |
| lbt | try ssh -p2222 mersdk@localhost -i <key you use in qtc> | 18:52 |
| sivang | shmerl: the very bare .spec tutorial, might be good to understand what yaml does- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_GNU_Hello_RPM_package?rd=A_Short_RPM_Tutorial | 18:53 |
| Jake9xx | sivang: this is OSS, you're welcome to do it :) | 18:53 |
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| shmerl | Thanks, I'll take a look. | 18:53 |
| zchydem | lbt: works from the commandline with the same key as point from QtC | 18:54 |
| sivang | Jake9xx: I should, actually. I'm a vim fan. | 18:54 |
| lbt | zchydem: bug in qtc then :) | 18:54 |
| zchydem | lbt: feels like that | 18:54 |
| shmerl | Looks like Yaml gives a bit higher level so can be easier than bare spec. | 18:54 |
| lbt | zchydem: auri or aportale should have more info | 18:55 |
| lbt | what error does it give? | 18:55 |
| lbt | and do you get the passwd prompt ? | 18:55 |
| lbt | (you may want to make a brand new ssh key with no phrase, add it to authorized_keys and specify it in qtc) | 18:56 |
| lbt | since it only gives loopback access it's fairly safe | 18:56 |
| sivang | shmerl: right, that's what Sepctable is for IIRC, especially when doing maintainance of pkgs when there's recurring editing with different version numbers, deps etc | 18:56 |
| zchydem | lbt: "Connection error: Decoding of private key file failed: format not understood" | 18:58 |
| lbt | what does google say? | 18:59 |
| zchydem | lbt: I haven't checked yet. (Sleeping my kids atm) | 18:59 |
| lbt | *nod* | 18:59 |
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| iekku | computer says no | 19:00 |
| Cosmo[PB] | not little britian! | 19:00 |
| iekku | i have watched that lately | 19:01 |
| Cosmo[PB] | what are you, 14? | 19:01 |
| iekku | correct | 19:01 |
| Cosmo[PB] | fair enough | 19:01 |
| sivang | iekku: pretty amazing stuff. Esp. love Vicky Pollard | 19:01 |
| iekku | at least if i trust to my last mental age test results :P | 19:02 |
| * sivang would like to be able to speak British English as she does one day. | 19:02 | |
| iekku | i would like to learn to speak english, as starter | 19:02 |
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| sivang | iekku: could help, yes ;) | 19:03 |
| * timoph speaks finglish, more commonly known as rally english | 19:03 | |
| zchydem | lbt: now it works! | 19:03 |
| sivang | timoph: as in , combined of Finnish and English ? | 19:03 |
| zchydem | lbt: need to run "ssh-add" | 19:03 |
| Cosmo[PB] | five left past cashier? | 19:03 |
| zchydem | lbt: I could update the wiki page | 19:04 |
| iekku | timoph, i speak badgenglish :P | 19:04 |
| zchydem | I don't want anyone else to fight with this again | 19:04 |
| timoph | sivang: just check an interview with any finnish rally driver :p | 19:04 |
| lbt | zchydem: yes please - keep it simple and probably in the 'ssh must work' bit | 19:04 |
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| sivang | timoph: like Peter Nygård ? :) | 19:06 |
| sivang | timoph: there's lots of rally cars in his videos :-p | 19:07 |
| timoph | sivang: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-TrEFfQnCQ | 19:07 |
| Cosmo[PB] | i wanna see rally cars | 19:07 |
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| sivang | Cosmo[PB]: you need to come to Finland, apparently, besides being the best place for live shows and rock and metal, it is also a rally nation :) | 19:07 |
| CosmoHill | that's cos they teach you how to drive | 19:08 |
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| CosmoHill | i had to learn fast the first time i encountered ice | 19:08 |
| timoph | :) | 19:09 |
| CosmoHill | gravity is its ally | 19:11 |
| CosmoHill | there's a very gentle downhill slope to the roundabout at the bottom of my road and you don't realise how evil it is until it's covered in ice cos you cannot stop | 19:12 |
| shmerl | You need an anchor with a chain ;) | 19:14 |
| Jake9xx | CosmoHill: got school busses crusing down your st? | 19:15 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 19:15 |
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| CosmoHill | hey sledges | 19:50 |
| sivang | this salary withholding is indeed *very* nasty | 19:53 |
| CosmoHill | ? | 19:54 |
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| sivang | CosmoHill: you know when your employer does not pay you? | 19:54 |
| CosmoHill | ah | 19:54 |
| CosmoHill | my employer made me an ex-employee | 19:55 |
| sivang | CosmoHill: wihthout owning you money? | 19:56 |
| CosmoHill | mum says he owes me 2 weeks paid holiday | 19:56 |
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| zchydem | lbt: still awake? | 21:30 |
| lbt | oh yes | 21:30 |
| zchydem | about the "kits" | 21:31 |
| zchydem | If I see a target in QtC Mer webview, should that be visible also on a kits tab? | 21:31 |
| zchydem | ah heck | 21:32 |
| lbt | yes - but you have to add it | 21:32 |
| zchydem | yes, just found that | 21:32 |
| zchydem | "Successfully added target" | 21:33 |
| lbt | ok - we may be able to get this integrated 'one day' | 21:33 |
| lbt | neat | 21:33 |
| zchydem | and now I can select it from "Kits" tab | 21:33 |
| lbt | yep | 21:33 |
| zchydem | I must say that this wasn't painless:) | 21:33 |
| zchydem | but I believe it'll improve | 21:34 |
| lbt | agreed - we need to id the dodgy bits and both improve feedback and simplify | 21:34 |
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| lbt | eg we can have the VM actually provide an ssh private key via a one-time api | 21:35 |
| lbt | that kind of thing | 21:35 |
| zchydem | let's see if I can compile something | 21:35 |
| lbt | you may need some hacks - I know I can't compile but my $HOME is unusual | 21:41 |
| lbt | zchydem: OK ... so how do I make a project that gets me QtDesigner enabled ? | 21:50 |
| lbt | File->New->project->QtQuick 1 app? | 21:50 |
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| zchydem | lbt: you mean QmlEditor? | 22:12 |
| lbt | something not textual | 22:13 |
| zchydem | I think in order to enable that you needed to build QtC using Qt's private headers. I didn't do that. | 22:13 |
| zchydem | it's in QtC's README if you want to enable it | 22:13 |
| lbt | http://doc.qt.digia.com/qtcreator-2.4/creator-using-qt-quick-designer.html | 22:15 |
| zchydem | yes, the same thing. To be honest, I don't use it | 22:15 |
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| zchydem | I rather do it in the text editor:) | 22:16 |
| lbt | me too - but it should be there for devs who like it | 22:16 |
| lbt | you think it needs a config in the qtc build ? | 22:17 |
| zchydem | lbt: looks like it. You need to have Qt's private headers when building QtC | 22:18 |
| lbt | :/ | 22:19 |
| zchydem | qmake "QT_PRIVATE_HEADERS=$$QT_BUILD_TREE/include" $SOURCE_DIRECTORY/qtcreator.pro | 22:19 |
| * lbt checks where debian ships 'em | 22:20 | |
| w00t | in Qt 4, they won't | 22:20 |
| w00t | (unless they patch Qt to install them, but I kind of doubt it) | 22:20 |
| w00t | in Qt 5, they're installed thanks to the source tree being split up | 22:21 |
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| lbt | libqt4-private-dev ,,, this is Debian we're talking about guys... not some half-assed rpm distro ;) | 22:22 |
| Jake9xx | lbt: LOL | 22:22 |
| lbt | and ,,,, "This package contains the private header development files for building some Qt 4 applications like Qt Creator QML Designer plugin" ... sounds promising at least :) | 22:23 |
| lbt | zchydem: I have /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/private ... and /usr/include/src/corelib/plugin/qfactoryloader_p.h etc ... thoughts on QT_PRIVATE_HEADERS setting? | 22:26 |
| zchydem | hmm did libqt4-private-dev installed those to several locations? | 22:29 |
| lbt | yeah - seems to have :/ | 22:29 |
| zchydem | hmm maybe QT_PRIVATE_HEADERS=path1:path2:path3 could work? | 22:30 |
| lbt | lessee | 22:30 |
| lbt | qmake -r "QT_PRIVATE_HEADERS=/usr/include/:/usr/include/src" | 22:31 |
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| Jake9xx | I was today on a late dinner with the fella who organized the RMS event | 22:34 |
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| Jake9xx | after that, they (haaga helia polytechnic) have now started to fuzz around linux et al which is good. But from the stuff I heard it was like a bit too much excitement and too little of understanding what is already going on | 22:35 |
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| Jake9xx | which kinda sucks. | 22:36 |
| CosmoHill | like my internet | 22:41 |
| CosmoHill | at 1 / 2am it should speed up | 22:41 |
| CosmoHill | if not, fuck them, I'm leaving anyway | 22:42 |
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