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| hyde | ...finally, it is time... I got my HDMI cable back, and I can see if the mer img will actually work | 06:13 |
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| hyde | (other than over the network | 06:13 |
| hyde | ...apparently badly connected HDMI cable can make the RPi not boot | 06:22 |
| hyde | ...the image does not have a text editor? | 06:27 |
| hyde | well, there's sed, who needs a stinking text editor anyway, and I'm not a vi person in any case | 06:28 |
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| hyde | oh well, distracting elements have awoken, time to look if getting nfs enabled is easy or complicated will be later | 06:57 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning | 07:31 |
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| cybette | morning Stskeeps | 07:54 |
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| Bostik | aportale, w00t: yup, very muc related indeed; see my qt5 packaging, either in cobs or google for modular qt5 specs for current hackery around the problem | 08:00 |
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| * Stskeeps resorts to error("diediedie") debugging | 08:04 | |
| Bostik | assert(abort()); | 08:05 |
| Bostik | ah well, rajala shop and thehuone now | 08:07 |
| jotik | error: void value not ignored as it ought to be | 08:07 |
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| vgrade | morn | 08:31 |
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| Stskeeps | morn vgrade | 08:37 |
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| * Stskeeps reaches the 'how did this EVER work' state | 08:41 | |
| xsacha_ | hey guys, what web browser is used in Mer? | 08:41 |
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| Stskeeps | xsacha_: mer doesn't come with a UI nor hardware adaptations, it's just a core, so it's up to each UI to decide | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | we provide qtwebkit engine from mer side, but people can run gecko if they want | 08:42 |
| xsacha_ | oh right | 08:43 |
| xsacha_ | for the nokia n9, which web browser is used? | 08:43 |
| grahamperrin | Maybe off-topic: if I want to take http://kde.org/announcements/plasma-active-three/ for a spin, on an old tablet, what's required? | 08:43 |
| * grahamperrin finds http://plasma-active.org | 08:44 | |
| Stskeeps | xsacha_: a closed source thing called grok | 08:44 |
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| Stskeeps | grahamperrin: generally you need to have a hardware adaptation to match your device, and match what arm architecture they build it for | 08:44 |
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| grahamperrin | Stskeeps: suspect that the hardware is between three and five years old (not mine, gathering dust in a shared office). Is it worth investigating? | 08:45 |
| Stskeeps | grahamperrin: .. depends, what kind of SoC is it? | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | / chipset | 08:46 |
| xsacha_ | stskeeps: cant find anything about grok | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | xsacha_: er, grob | 08:47 |
| xsacha_ | neromobile? | 08:47 |
| grahamperrin | Stskeeps: I'll not be in the office until Monday or Tuesday. Will look then. (Is this the best channel for Plasma Active 3?) | 08:47 |
| Stskeeps | grahamperrin: #active is probably better | 08:48 |
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| grahamperrin | Stskeeps: OK, I'm there now and will revisit later. Thanks for the gentle steering. | 08:49 |
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| CosmoHill | hello .o/ | 09:42 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello CosmoHill :) | 10:22 |
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| CosmoHill | .o/ | 10:25 |
| CosmoHill | I'm off to see my family and play with jekyll, cyas | 10:26 |
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| rem | where can I find debuginfo for all qt libraries deployed with mer ? | 10:51 |
| Bostik | did we have a separate debuginfo repo? | 10:53 |
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| rem | bostik: yes there is but it does not contain debug info in all libraries | 10:54 |
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| Stskeeps | /etc/zypp/repos.d | 11:08 |
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| Stskeeps | and yes it does | 11:08 |
| Stskeeps | it's source package name, not lib name | 11:08 |
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| pa | does anyone here remember whether opencl runtime was shipped together with nokia harmattan system? | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | don't think it was | 12:51 |
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| pa | ah shit.. so freemantle yes, harmattan no? weird.. | 13:01 |
| Stskeeps | eh, fremantle had opencl? | 13:02 |
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| pa | i found there was a "clep" project/package that added support to it | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | not sure if it was built for harmattan ever though | 13:08 |
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| lbt | sorry, unimplemented: -mfloat-abi=hard and VFP ? | 14:17 |
| lbt | wmarone: ping | 14:24 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: what are you blowing up.. | 15:10 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i've last seen that one with -mthumb on armv6 | 15:13 |
| lbt | I was building nook boot loader with armv7hl not armv7l | 15:13 |
| lbt | also - I like mic for making targets | 15:14 |
| lbt | also zypper --root /srv/mer/targets/XXX is interesting | 15:14 |
| Stskeeps | it is, but rpm databases are a bit funny | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | :/ | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | oh, yeah | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | that should do | 15:16 |
| lbt | yeah - I wondered - it seems to kinda work sometimes | 15:16 |
| lbt | well, --root will use the x86 db4 libs to open the arm db4 libs made by mic | 15:17 |
| lbt | I wonder if Mer can build db4 with forced endian-ness | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | well, x86 is little endian too, right | 15:18 |
| lbt | I thought arm/x86 differed ... not sure ... googling :) | 15:18 |
| * lbt decides not to get distracted :) | 15:19 | |
| lbt | but the idea of a web app which makes simple -devel ks files and new targets ... mmm ... I like it | 15:20 |
| lbt | https://gitorious.org/mer-nook-compat/nook-x-loader/blobs/master/fs/fat/fat.c#line160 bloody hell - how do I hit syntax errors in code in git repos | 15:23 |
| lbt | makes me think my CONFIG is wrong :/ | 15:23 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: x-loader and uboot are notoriously weird | 15:38 |
| Stskeeps | add a -msoft-float, be happy | 15:38 |
| lbt | no need - all built now | 15:39 |
| lbt | nb - should I be building using amr7hl or armv7l ? | 15:39 |
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| lbt | I'm planning to do hybris in case it matters | 15:40 |
| Stskeeps | armv7l for now | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | armv7hl is WIP | 15:41 |
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| Stskeeps | but has been proven to work | 15:41 |
| * CosmoHill kicks google play | 15:42 | |
| Stskeeps | ok, host-gcc at least responding to me.. 2 bugs found in sb2 | 15:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:42 |
| lbt | OK, good | 15:43 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: where's host-cc useful ? | 16:19 |
| lbt | do you host-cc tools used during build? and then make a gcc for install | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: host-cc is useful for stuff that only needs to go on host machine, like, temporary but heavy .c | 16:22 |
| lbt | eg ? | 16:22 |
| lbt | asided ... should sb2 be looking in target for /etc/{passwd,group} ? I suspect not | 16:25 |
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| Stskeeps | "ish" | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: think qmake as an example | 16:30 |
| lbt | yeah - so the tradeoff is 'is it worth building a hostcc qmake as well as a target one" | 16:31 |
| lbt | my sb2 kernel build doesn't like that it can't find my uid | 16:31 |
| lbt | which is annoying since I took the trouble to ensure it goes into the SDK passwd file | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | ensure it's in target too, build does | 16:33 |
| lbt | use_outside_path("/etc/passwd") in ~/.sbrules fixes it though | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/inside-team-romneys-whale-of-an-it-meltdown/ <- fun | 16:34 |
| lbt | "unnamed application consulting firm" | 16:35 |
| lbt | drivers/usb/gadget/f_ecm.c:504:8: error: implicit declaration of function 'gadget_is_sa1100' [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration] | 16:38 |
| lbt | mutter | 16:38 |
| lbt | gadget_is_sa1100 is not apparently defined anywhere in the kernel code | 16:41 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: you're starting to understand why hardware adaptation pays a good consulting fee? | 16:45 |
| * lbt suspects that HA guys deliberately add this kind of junk inside timed #ifdef's | 16:45 | |
| lbt | wmarone's notes are pretty good though | 16:47 |
| wmarone | hm? | 16:49 |
| lbt | nook color | 16:51 |
| lbt | thanks for taking the time to write up what you did | 16:51 |
| wmarone | ah | 16:51 |
| wmarone | welcome | 16:51 |
| lbt | attempting to build the kernel atm | 16:51 |
| wmarone | the xda-devs guys apparently got a 3.0.X kernel building for it | 16:52 |
| lbt | applied patches to this : https://github.com/dalingrin/nook_kernel | 16:52 |
| lbt | I'm hoping to do libhybris on it | 16:52 |
| wmarone | cool | 16:53 |
| wmarone | that'd solve the GPU problem | 16:53 |
| lbt | so I'll keep to the B&N kernel to minimise the risk | 16:53 |
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| Stskeeps | anything that gets NC on level of ICS is good | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | in terms of gpu drivers | 16:57 |
| lbt | drivers/usb/gadget/f_rndis.c:789:1: error: redefinition of 'rndis_bind_config | 16:57 |
| aportale | lbt: I just pushed the SDK Control Center mode | 16:57 |
| lbt | aportale: cheers, will pull that | 16:58 |
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| lbt | ok - needs to be CONFIG'ed in I guess | 17:00 |
| aportale | lbt: you mean the url? | 17:01 |
| lbt | aportale: USB_ETH_RNDIS in the kernel :) | 17:01 |
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| aportale | lbt: ouch. | 17:01 |
| aportale | lbt: Hmm. My Ubuntu kernel for dummies is just happy with it. | 17:03 |
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| aportale | lbt: I don't get what USB has to do with that. It is yet another webview. Just like the one in the help mode. | 17:04 |
| aportale | lbt: Hold on. YOu were not tallking to me | 17:05 |
| * aportale feels stupid :) | 17:05 | |
| lbt | aportale: eep - no, I wasn't and then afk for a couple of mins :) | 17:07 |
| lbt | I'm seeing if I can make the Nook Color boot Mer | 17:07 |
| lbt | sry for confusion | 17:07 |
| lbt | nb - could it have a fallback page of "The SDK VM is not responding - check it's running and check the NAT config as per this wiki page: ....." | 17:09 |
| lbt | aportale: ^^ that one is for you :) | 17:09 |
| aportale | lbt: Ok, will look at that. | 17:09 |
| lbt | what url are you using? | 17:10 |
| lbt | hmm http://127.0.0.1:8080 ... that's good, | 17:12 |
| lbt | my VM isn't running webapp... hmm | 17:12 |
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| CosmoHill | i can't help but feel if I was on my old phone I'd of finish the text, sent it and got a reply by now | 17:14 |
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| * lbt passes variables that look like they may work to functions that look like they may need them | 17:41 | |
| lbt | .... and gets a kernel ... nice.... what could possibly go wrong? | 17:41 |
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| lbt | right ... have kernel... need shower... | 17:42 |
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| wmarone | heh | 17:42 |
| CosmoHill | anyone know of an free android app that can tell you your current speed? | 17:44 |
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