Saturday, 2012-11-10

*** blam1 has left #mer00:00
*** FSCV has quit IRC00:35
*** dijenerate has quit IRC00:49
*** dakovaci_ has joined #mer01:02
*** phaeron has quit IRC01:04
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC01:10
*** HazardousWaster has joined #mer01:25
*** dijenerate has joined #mer01:31
*** leinir has quit IRC01:35
*** leinir has joined #mer01:35
*** leinir has quit IRC01:35
*** leinir has joined #mer01:35
*** trbs2 has quit IRC02:11
*** panda-z has joined #mer02:13
*** peavey has quit IRC02:15
*** peavey has joined #mer02:17
*** leinir_ has joined #mer02:43
*** leinir has quit IRC02:46
*** leinir_ has quit IRC02:51
*** leinir_ has joined #mer02:51
*** leinir_ has quit IRC02:51
*** leinir_ has joined #mer02:51
*** dakovaci_ has quit IRC03:11
*** sirdancealota has quit IRC03:12
*** phinaliumz has joined #mer03:14
*** leinir_ has quit IRC03:20
*** leinir_ has joined #mer03:24
*** furikku has joined #mer03:39
*** dakovaci_ has joined #mer03:41
*** Milhouse has quit IRC03:47
*** Milhouse has joined #mer03:47
*** leinir_ has quit IRC03:51
*** odin_ has quit IRC03:59
*** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC04:00
*** DocScrutinizer05 has joined #mer04:00
*** rdqfdx has joined #mer04:01
*** rdqfdx has joined #mer04:01
*** dakovaci_ has quit IRC04:04
*** leinir_ has joined #mer04:10
*** leinir_ has quit IRC04:10
*** leinir_ has joined #mer04:10
*** poka has quit IRC04:15
*** leinir_ has quit IRC04:30
*** leinir_ has joined #mer04:30
*** odin_ has joined #mer04:33
*** leinir_ has quit IRC04:35
*** leinir_ has joined #mer04:37
*** leinir_ has quit IRC04:37
*** leinir_ has joined #mer04:37
*** drip has quit IRC04:56
*** popey has quit IRC05:03
*** blam1 has joined #mer05:38
*** phinaliumz has quit IRC05:48
*** rdqfdx has quit IRC05:50
*** hyde has joined #mer06:05
hyde...finally, it is time... I got my HDMI cable back, and I can see if the mer img will actually work06:13
hyde(other than over the network06:13
hyde...apparently badly connected HDMI cable can make the RPi not boot06:22
hyde...the image does not have a text editor?06:27
hydewell, there's sed, who needs a stinking text editor anyway, and I'm not a vi person in any case06:28
*** Hoolxi has joined #mer06:34
*** panda-z has quit IRC06:42
*** leinir__ has joined #mer06:44
*** _xnt14 has quit IRC06:44
*** valdur has quit IRC06:44
*** valdur has joined #mer06:45
*** _xnt14 has joined #mer06:46
*** leinir_ has quit IRC06:48
hydeoh well, distracting elements have awoken, time to look if getting nfs enabled is easy or complicated will be later06:57
*** poka has joined #mer07:10
*** dakovaci_ has joined #mer07:17
*** leinir__ has quit IRC07:22
*** Hoolxi has quit IRC07:23
*** leinir__ has joined #mer07:25
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer07:28
*** sirdancealota has joined #mer07:30
Stskeepsgood morning07:31
*** Jucato has quit IRC07:32
*** VDVsx has joined #mer07:52
cybettemorning Stskeeps07:54
*** rdqfdx has joined #mer07:58
Bostikaportale, w00t: yup, very muc related indeed; see my qt5 packaging, either in cobs or google for modular qt5 specs for current hackery around the problem08:00
*** leinir__ has quit IRC08:02
* Stskeeps resorts to error("diediedie") debugging08:04
Bostikassert(abort());08:05
Bostikah well, rajala shop and thehuone now08:07
jotikerror: void value not ignored as it ought to be08:07
*** _xnt14 has quit IRC08:08
*** furikku has quit IRC08:09
*** terietor has quit IRC08:09
*** Beineri has quit IRC08:09
*** LordOnyx has quit IRC08:09
*** skippy311 has quit IRC08:09
*** beford has quit IRC08:09
*** jjardon has quit IRC08:09
*** hyde has quit IRC08:11
*** _xnt14 has joined #mer08:11
*** furikku has joined #mer08:11
*** terietor has joined #mer08:11
*** Beineri has joined #mer08:11
*** skippy311 has joined #mer08:11
*** LordOnyx has joined #mer08:11
*** beford has joined #mer08:11
*** jjardon has joined #mer08:11
*** leinir__ has joined #mer08:17
* Stskeeps curses loudly and fetches more coffee08:23
*** fk_lx has joined #mer08:24
*** fk_lx1 has joined #mer08:28
*** fk_lx has quit IRC08:30
vgrademorn08:31
*** popey has joined #mer08:35
Stskeepsmorn vgrade08:37
*** xsacha_ has joined #mer08:41
* Stskeeps reaches the 'how did this EVER work' state08:41
xsacha_hey guys, what web browser is used in Mer?08:41
*** grahamperrin has joined #mer08:41
Stskeepsxsacha_: mer doesn't come with a UI nor hardware adaptations, it's just a core, so it's up to each UI to decide08:42
Stskeepswe provide qtwebkit engine from mer side, but people can run gecko if they want08:42
xsacha_oh right08:43
xsacha_for the nokia n9, which web browser is used?08:43
grahamperrinMaybe off-topic: if I want to take http://kde.org/announcements/plasma-active-three/ for a spin, on an old tablet, what's required?08:43
* grahamperrin finds http://plasma-active.org08:44
Stskeepsxsacha_: a closed source thing called grok08:44
*** fk_lx has joined #mer08:44
Stskeepsgrahamperrin: generally you need to have a hardware adaptation to match your device, and match what arm architecture they build it for08:44
*** fk_lx1 has quit IRC08:44
*** Eismann has quit IRC08:45
*** Eismann has joined #mer08:45
grahamperrinStskeeps: suspect that the hardware is between three and five years old (not mine, gathering dust in a shared office). Is it worth investigating?08:45
Stskeepsgrahamperrin: .. depends, what kind of SoC is it?08:46
Stskeeps / chipset08:46
xsacha_stskeeps: cant find anything about grok08:46
Stskeepsxsacha_: er, grob08:47
xsacha_neromobile?08:47
grahamperrinStskeeps: I'll not be in the office until Monday or Tuesday. Will look then. (Is this the best channel for Plasma Active 3?)08:47
Stskeepsgrahamperrin: #active is probably better08:48
*** dakovaci_ has quit IRC08:48
grahamperrinStskeeps: OK, I'm there now and will revisit later. Thanks for the gentle steering.08:49
*** rcg has joined #mer08:49
*** grahamperrin has left #mer08:49
*** fk_lx has left #mer08:50
*** dakovaci_ has joined #mer08:51
*** poka is now known as funa08:54
*** leinir__ has quit IRC08:58
*** leinir__ has joined #mer08:58
*** cat_x301 has joined #mer09:07
*** phaeron has joined #mer09:08
*** rem has quit IRC09:11
*** merder has joined #mer09:11
*** panda-z has joined #mer09:13
*** Venemo_N9 has joined #mer09:19
*** jukkaeklund has joined #mer09:22
*** jukkaeklund has quit IRC09:27
*** jukkaeklund has joined #mer09:28
*** phinaliumz has joined #mer09:30
*** sirdancealota has quit IRC09:31
*** dakovaci_ has quit IRC09:31
*** jukkaeklund has quit IRC09:36
*** CosmoHill has joined #mer09:41
*** jukkaeklund has joined #mer09:42
*** VDVsx has quit IRC09:42
CosmoHillhello .o/09:42
*** VDVsx has joined #mer09:43
*** lbt_away is now known as lbt09:46
*** dm8tbr has quit IRC09:48
*** tg has quit IRC09:49
*** leinir__ has quit IRC09:53
*** blam1 has quit IRC09:55
*** tg has joined #mer09:58
*** nyl has quit IRC09:58
*** dm8tbr has joined #mer10:01
*** dakovaci_ has joined #mer10:01
*** Venemo_N9 has quit IRC10:07
*** NIN101 has joined #mer10:10
*** rcg has quit IRC10:10
Sfiet_Konstantinhello CosmoHill :)10:22
*** M4rtinK has joined #mer10:23
CosmoHill.o/10:25
CosmoHillI'm off to see my family and play with jekyll, cyas10:26
*** CosmoHill has quit IRC10:26
*** zenvoid has joined #mer10:26
*** NIN101 has quit IRC10:44
*** NIN101 has joined #mer10:45
*** jukkaeklund has quit IRC10:50
*** rem has joined #mer10:50
remwhere can I find debuginfo for all qt libraries deployed with mer ?10:51
Bostikdid we have a separate debuginfo repo?10:53
*** pocek has quit IRC10:54
rembostik: yes there is but it does not contain debug info in all libraries10:54
*** pocek has joined #mer10:54
*** rem has quit IRC11:07
Stskeeps /etc/zypp/repos.d11:08
*** blam1 has joined #mer11:08
Stskeepsand yes it does11:08
Stskeepsit's source package  name, not lib name11:08
*** leinir__ has joined #mer11:12
*** leinir__ is now known as leinir11:12
*** leinir has quit IRC11:12
*** leinir has joined #mer11:12
*** rcg has joined #mer11:15
*** rcg has quit IRC11:25
*** phaeron has quit IRC11:36
*** Venemo has joined #mer11:43
*** Jucato has joined #mer11:46
*** fcorrea has quit IRC11:47
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC11:47
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer11:47
*** fcorrea has joined #mer11:49
*** phaeron has joined #mer11:49
*** phinaliumz has quit IRC12:00
*** thetet has joined #mer12:09
*** blam1 has left #mer12:11
*** panda-z has quit IRC12:15
*** phdeswer has quit IRC12:21
*** merder has quit IRC12:21
*** Ian-- has quit IRC12:24
*** VDVsx has quit IRC12:36
*** CosmoHill has joined #mer12:44
padoes anyone here remember whether opencl runtime was shipped together with nokia harmattan system?12:51
Stskeepsdon't think it was12:51
*** VDVsx has joined #mer12:55
*** Ian-- has joined #mer13:00
paah shit.. so freemantle yes, harmattan no? weird..13:01
Stskeepseh, fremantle had opencl?13:02
*** kostaja has joined #mer13:03
*** panda-z has joined #mer13:06
pai found there was a "clep" project/package that added support to it13:08
Stskeepsyeah13:08
Stskeepsnot sure if it was built for harmattan ever though13:08
*** ridikulus_rat has joined #mer13:14
*** ridikulus_rat has left #mer13:14
*** VDVsx has quit IRC13:22
*** faenil_n950 has joined #mer13:28
*** Jaded has quit IRC13:36
*** ridikulus_rat has joined #mer13:37
*** ridikulus_rat has left #mer13:37
*** Jade has joined #mer13:37
*** Jade has quit IRC13:37
*** Jade has joined #mer13:37
*** yunta has joined #mer13:39
*** Jonno_ has joined #mer13:48
*** Jonno_ is now known as jonse16813:50
*** jonse168 is now known as Jon_Severinsson13:50
*** Jon_Severinsson is now known as jonse16813:51
*** jonse168 is now known as Jonno_13:51
*** Jonno_ is now known as Jon_13:55
*** Jon_ is now known as jonse16813:55
*** jonse168 is now known as jonse168_13:55
*** jonse168_ is now known as jonse16813:55
*** jonse168 is now known as Jon_Severinsson13:55
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC13:56
*** Jon_Severinsson has quit IRC13:56
*** Jonno_ has joined #mer13:56
*** Jonno_ is now known as Jon_Severinsson13:56
*** Jon_Severinsson is now known as Jon_Severinsson_13:56
*** Jon_Severinsson_ is now known as Jon_13:57
*** Jon_ is now known as jonse16813:57
*** jonse168 is now known as jonse168_13:57
*** jonse168_ is now known as Jonno_13:59
lbtsorry, unimplemented: -mfloat-abi=hard and VFP ?14:17
lbtwmarone: ping14:24
*** plfiorini has quit IRC14:24
*** Jonno_ has quit IRC14:25
*** Jucato has quit IRC14:28
*** yunta has quit IRC14:29
*** ILoveLumia920 has joined #mer14:34
*** dakovaci_ has quit IRC14:35
*** yunta has joined #mer14:42
*** merder has joined #mer15:05
*** thetet has quit IRC15:09
Stskeepslbt: what are you blowing up..15:10
Stskeepslbt: i've last seen that one with -mthumb on armv615:13
lbtI was building nook boot loader with armv7hl not armv7l15:13
lbtalso - I like mic for making targets15:14
lbtalso zypper --root /srv/mer/targets/XXX is interesting15:14
Stskeepsit is, but rpm databases are a bit funny15:16
Stskeeps :/15:16
Stskeepsoh, yeah15:16
Stskeepsthat should do15:16
lbtyeah - I wondered - it seems to kinda work sometimes15:16
lbtwell, --root will use the x86 db4 libs to open the arm db4 libs made by mic15:17
lbtI wonder if Mer can build db4 with forced endian-ness15:17
Stskeepswell, x86 is little endian too, right15:18
lbtI thought arm/x86 differed ... not sure ... googling :)15:18
* lbt decides not to get distracted :)15:19
lbtbut the idea of a web app which makes simple -devel ks files and new targets ... mmm ... I like it15:20
lbthttps://gitorious.org/mer-nook-compat/nook-x-loader/blobs/master/fs/fat/fat.c#line160  bloody hell - how do I hit syntax errors in code in git repos15:23
lbtmakes me think my CONFIG is wrong :/15:23
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer15:32
*** FSCV has joined #mer15:37
Stskeepslbt: x-loader and uboot are notoriously weird15:38
Stskeepsadd a -msoft-float, be happy15:38
lbtno need - all built now15:39
lbtnb - should I be building using amr7hl or armv7l ?15:39
*** NIN101 has quit IRC15:39
lbtI'm planning to do hybris in case it matters15:40
Stskeepsarmv7l for now15:41
Stskeepsarmv7hl is WIP15:41
*** NIN101 has joined #mer15:41
Stskeepsbut has been proven to work15:41
* CosmoHill kicks google play15:42
Stskeepsok, host-gcc at least responding to me.. 2 bugs found in sb215:42
Stskeeps:P15:42
lbtOK, good15:43
*** phdeswer has joined #mer15:43
*** melonipoika has joined #mer15:46
*** melonipoika has quit IRC15:52
*** ILoveLumia920 has quit IRC15:53
*** phdeswer has quit IRC15:53
*** NIN101 has quit IRC15:56
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC16:02
*** NIN101 has joined #mer16:06
*** phdeswer has joined #mer16:07
*** drip has joined #mer16:10
lbtStskeeps: where's host-cc useful ?16:19
lbtdo you host-cc tools used during build? and then make a gcc for install16:20
Stskeepslbt: host-cc is useful for stuff that only needs to go on host machine, like, temporary but heavy .c16:22
lbteg ?16:22
lbtasided ... should sb2 be looking in target for /etc/{passwd,group} ? I suspect not16:25
*** nsuffys has joined #mer16:27
Stskeeps"ish"16:30
Stskeeps:P16:30
Stskeepslbt: think qmake as an example16:30
lbtyeah - so the tradeoff is 'is it worth building a hostcc qmake as well as a target one"16:31
lbtmy sb2 kernel build doesn't like that it can't find my uid16:31
lbtwhich is annoying since I took the trouble to ensure it goes into the SDK passwd file16:32
Stskeepsensure it's in target too, build does16:33
lbtuse_outside_path("/etc/passwd")  in ~/.sbrules fixes it though16:33
Stskeepshttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/inside-team-romneys-whale-of-an-it-meltdown/ <- fun16:34
lbt"unnamed application consulting firm"16:35
lbtdrivers/usb/gadget/f_ecm.c:504:8: error: implicit declaration of function 'gadget_is_sa1100' [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]16:38
lbtmutter16:38
lbtgadget_is_sa1100 is not apparently defined anywhere in the kernel code16:41
*** popey has quit IRC16:44
Stskeepslbt: you're starting to understand why hardware adaptation pays a good consulting fee?16:45
* lbt suspects that HA guys deliberately add this kind of junk inside timed #ifdef's16:45
lbtwmarone's notes are pretty good though16:47
wmaronehm?16:49
lbtnook color16:51
lbtthanks for taking the time to write up what you did16:51
wmaroneah16:51
wmaronewelcome16:51
lbtattempting to build the kernel atm16:51
wmaronethe xda-devs guys apparently got a 3.0.X kernel building for it16:52
lbtapplied patches to this : https://github.com/dalingrin/nook_kernel16:52
lbtI'm hoping to do libhybris on it16:52
wmaronecool16:53
wmaronethat'd solve the GPU problem16:53
lbtso I'll keep to the B&N kernel to minimise the risk16:53
*** panda-z is now known as panda-z|away16:55
*** merder has quit IRC16:55
*** aportale has joined #mer16:56
Stskeepsanything that gets NC on level of ICS is good16:57
Stskeepsin terms of gpu drivers16:57
lbtdrivers/usb/gadget/f_rndis.c:789:1: error: redefinition of 'rndis_bind_config16:57
aportalelbt: I just pushed the SDK Control Center mode16:57
lbtaportale: cheers, will pull that16:58
*** otep has quit IRC16:58
*** panda-z|away has quit IRC16:59
lbtok - needs to be CONFIG'ed in I guess17:00
aportalelbt: you mean the url?17:01
lbtaportale: USB_ETH_RNDIS in the kernel :)17:01
*** popey has joined #mer17:01
aportalelbt: ouch.17:01
aportalelbt: Hmm. My Ubuntu kernel for dummies is just happy with it.17:03
*** otep has joined #mer17:04
aportalelbt: I don't get what USB has to do with that. It is yet another webview. Just like the one in the help mode.17:04
aportalelbt: Hold on. YOu were not tallking to me17:05
* aportale feels stupid :)17:05
lbtaportale: eep - no, I wasn't and then afk for a couple of mins :)17:07
lbtI'm seeing if I can make the Nook Color boot Mer17:07
lbtsry for confusion17:07
lbtnb - could it have a fallback page of "The SDK VM is not responding - check it's running and check the NAT config as per this wiki page: ....."17:09
lbtaportale: ^^ that one is for you :)17:09
aportalelbt: Ok, will look at that.17:09
lbtwhat url are you using?17:10
lbthmm http://127.0.0.1:8080 ... that's good,17:12
lbtmy VM isn't running webapp... hmm17:12
* CosmoHill gets used to his new pre-owned touch smart phone thing17:13
CosmoHilli can't help but feel if I was on my old phone I'd of finish the text, sent it and got a reply by now17:14
*** rcg has joined #mer17:15
*** popey has quit IRC17:15
*** Venemo_N9 has joined #mer17:30
*** leinir has quit IRC17:32
*** leinir has joined #mer17:33
*** leinir has quit IRC17:33
*** leinir has joined #mer17:33
*** ced117 has quit IRC17:33
*** popey has joined #mer17:35
*** ced117 has joined #mer17:38
*** ced117 has joined #mer17:38
* lbt passes variables that look like they may work to functions that look like they may need them17:41
lbt.... and gets a kernel ... nice.... what could possibly go wrong?17:41
*** alien_ has joined #mer17:41
lbtright ... have kernel... need shower...17:42
*** lbt is now known as lbt_away17:42
wmaroneheh17:42
CosmoHillanyone know of an free android app that can tell you your current speed?17:44
*** ced117 has quit IRC17:46
*** ced117 has joined #mer17:46
*** dijenerate has quit IRC17:48
*** jpetersen has joined #mer17:49
*** Venemo_N9 has quit IRC17:50
*** Venemo_N9 has joined #mer17:51
*** Venemo_N9 has quit IRC17:53
*** plfiorini has joined #mer17:54
*** Venemo_N9 has joined #mer17:57
*** aportale has quit IRC17:59
*** Venemo_N9_ has joined #mer18:00
*** Venemo_N9__ has joined #mer18:01
*** Venemo_N9 has quit IRC18:01
*** Venemo_N9__ has quit IRC18:02
*** Venemo_N9_ has quit IRC18:03
*** dijenerate has joined #mer18:12
*** Venemo_N9 has joined #mer18:23
*** Venemo_N9_ has joined #mer18:24
*** Venemo_N9 has quit IRC18:24
*** Venemo_N9__ has joined #mer18:24
*** Venemo_N9__ has quit IRC18:24
*** Venemo_N9 has joined #mer18:25
*** aportale has joined #mer18:27
*** Venemo_N9_ has quit IRC18:28
*** Venemo_N9 has quit IRC18:29
*** jotik^^ has joined #mer18:33
*** jotik has quit IRC18:33
*** faenil_n950 has quit IRC18:36
*** yunta has quit IRC18:42
*** alien_ has quit IRC18:53
*** yunta has joined #mer18:56
*** CosmoHill has quit IRC18:58
*** CosmoHill has joined #mer19:04
*** Grimmer has quit IRC19:05
*** dijenerate has quit IRC19:06
*** rdqfdx has quit IRC19:12
*** leinir has quit IRC19:15
*** leinir has joined #mer19:16
*** leinir has quit IRC19:16
*** leinir has joined #mer19:16
*** dijenerate has joined #mer19:19
*** rdqfdx has joined #mer19:21
* CosmoHill goes to slap his router19:23
*** Cosmo[PB] has joined #mer19:25
*** CosmoHill has quit IRC19:28
*** Cosmo[PB] has quit IRC19:30
*** Cosmo[PB] has joined #mer19:35
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has joined #mer19:37
*** lamikr has joined #mer19:47
*** Grimmer has joined #mer19:48
*** furikku has quit IRC19:48
*** ljp has quit IRC19:49
*** ljp has joined #mer19:49
*** ljp has quit IRC19:56
*** dijenerate has quit IRC19:57
*** ljp has joined #mer20:08
*** Grimmer has quit IRC20:08
*** Grimmer has joined #mer20:08
*** Jonno_ has joined #mer20:11
*** funa has quit IRC20:15
*** rubdos has joined #mer20:16
*** Cosmo[PB] has quit IRC20:18
*** Cosmo[PB] has joined #mer20:22
*** aportale has left #mer20:24
*** funa has joined #mer20:26
*** Cosmo[PB] has quit IRC20:51
*** Cosmo[PB] has joined #mer20:57
*** arcean has joined #mer20:58
*** NIN101 has quit IRC21:07
*** Sfiet_Konstantin has quit IRC21:12
*** Jonno_ is now known as Jon_Severinsson21:20
*** Jon_Severinsson is now known as Jonno_21:20
*** cat_x301 has quit IRC21:35
*** lamikr has quit IRC21:37
*** Cosmo[PB] is now known as CosmoHill21:43
*** rZr is now known as RzR21:45
*** cat_x301 has joined #mer21:48
*** popey has quit IRC22:04
*** nsuffys has quit IRC22:05
*** jpetersen has quit IRC22:09
*** Venemo has quit IRC22:11
*** dijenerate has joined #mer22:13
*** dijenerate has quit IRC22:18
*** zenvoid has quit IRC22:22
*** kostaja has quit IRC22:26
CosmoHillnight night22:33
*** CosmoHill has quit IRC22:34
*** dijenerate has joined #mer22:34
*** nyl has joined #mer22:40
*** dijenerate has quit IRC22:41
*** dijenerate has joined #mer22:45
*** panda-z has joined #mer22:52
*** phaeron_n9 has joined #mer22:53
*** phaeron_n9 has quit IRC22:55
*** panda-z has quit IRC22:57
*** Skry has quit IRC22:58
*** Skry has joined #mer23:00
*** dijenerate has quit IRC23:01
*** rubdos has quit IRC23:03
*** dijenerate has joined #mer23:07
*** merder has joined #mer23:09
*** rdqfdx has quit IRC23:09
*** dijenerate has quit IRC23:13
*** l4mer_ has joined #mer23:15
*** l4mer_ has quit IRC23:16
*** dijenerate has joined #mer23:17
*** diegoyam_ has joined #mer23:21
*** yunta has quit IRC23:43
*** yunta has joined #mer23:58

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.11.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!