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| pq | vgrade, but you didn't have a wayland-aware X wm, or did you? | 06:07 |
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| vgrade | pq, yes I was using xwayland server. Xorg -wayland --rootless :0 | 06:19 |
| vgrade | morning btw | 06:19 |
| pq | the server does not have a wm | 06:19 |
| vgrade | pq right | 06:19 |
| pq | weston has a built-in X wm for xwayland, so I was wondering if qt grew a similar one | 06:20 |
| vgrade | no | 06:20 |
| pq | ah, ok | 06:20 |
| pq | weston's X wm is in the process of being split out of weston's process, so maybe it will become a reusable component | 06:21 |
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| vgrade | pq, 27783.995] (EE) wlshm(0): host server does not support xserver extension. Where does the xserver guy hang out? | 06:31 |
| vgrade | xwayland I mean | 06:33 |
| pq | vgrade, Tiago Vignatti and Daniel Stone, both can be found on #wayland. Though Daniel just left for weekend, but may pop in later. | 06:34 |
| pq | so daniels and vignatti on freenode | 06:35 |
| pq | I think that error means, that your wayland server does not advertise the xserver extension. You'd probably need weston for that, with --module=xwayland.so IIRC | 06:36 |
| vgrade | thanks, off to day job will check this weekend | 06:37 |
| pq | np | 06:37 |
| MichaelWu | Hi, anybody got experience with libhybris? And how to use it with Android binaries? I built it in Mer SDK environment. But it makes me confused: if A links bionic libc, but B links to glibc, is it possible to run A and B with same LD_LIBRARY_PATH setting? | 06:42 |
| pq | vgrade, I checked the xserver code, and it indeed is expecting the "xserver" interface to appear in the wayland server globals | 06:45 |
| pq | vgrade, weston-info should list it, when it is available | 06:45 |
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| pq | vgrade, whee, daniels appeared :-D | 07:24 |
| daniels | i can neither confirm nor deny such rumours | 07:24 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps, lbt: is there %{mips} or something in .spec macros? | 07:26 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: wtf http://qtl.merproject.org/a014d62e-2a3d-11e2-a8e5-00163e6e0038.txt | 07:27 |
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| Bostik | that looks familiar | 07:36 |
| Bostik | oh sorry, hadn't seen in lucene files before | 07:37 |
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| Sage_ | lbt: thx for the tip, fixed the build for mips :) | 07:43 |
| pq | aah, these are now in a more friedly format to read than an HTML patch: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/raspberrypi.html :-) | 07:44 |
| Sage_ | lbt, Stskeeps: would help if we would list the exact gcc options that are used with which arch, and which options are not compatible in some wiki page. | 07:46 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: can you abandon http://review.merproject.org/#change,714 there is new to fix that. | 07:51 |
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| CosmoHill | Morning .o/ | 08:21 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: gerrit and mer processes hate me atm. :P | 08:31 |
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| lbt | morning all | 09:40 |
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| yunta | yes | 09:52 |
| auri__ | lbt: morn | 09:54 |
| lbt | morning auri__ | 09:55 |
| auri__ | I saw that you have a talk at NA DD | 09:55 |
| lbt | yes :) | 09:55 |
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| auri__ | cool | 09:55 |
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| lbt | and there's a Jolla talk focusing on the SDK too | 09:56 |
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| auri__ | so you have 2 different talks? | 09:56 |
| lbt | I'm doing a Mer talk | 09:56 |
| lbt | more about how it is of use commercially | 09:57 |
| lbt | http://www.qtdeveloperdays.com/northamerica/mer-qt-what-meego-should-have-been | 09:57 |
| auri__ | ok.. btw your affiliation is shown as jollamobile | 09:57 |
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| auri__ | whereas someone else has affiliation as Mer.. :) | 09:57 |
| lbt | hmm - I updated it last night so it should show both | 09:57 |
| auri__ | are you attending berlin DD too? | 09:58 |
| lbt | sadly that's pre-slush so I just don't have time | 09:59 |
| lbt | I would have loved to talk about Mer ther | 09:59 |
| lbt | e | 09:59 |
| lbt | does my affiliation look correct now? | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 10:00 |
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| CosmoHill | when did I disconnect? | 11:27 |
| leinir | about three minutes ago | 11:29 |
| leinir | (with only someone leaving as activity in the meantime) | 11:29 |
| CosmoHill | thanks | 11:29 |
| CosmoHill | i came back and my laptop screen was blank and not responding | 11:29 |
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| leinir | Apparently your computer had gone to sleep, according to the quit message :) | 11:32 |
| CosmoHill | makes sense but it should have woken up | 11:32 |
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| CosmoHill | i think i need a new mac soon | 11:40 |
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| rZr | CosmoHill, i think mac need you to think that :) | 12:06 |
| CosmoHill | i dropped it on monday | 12:07 |
| CosmoHill | my friend's dropped it onto my desk leg and put a massive dent in it | 12:07 |
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| aportale | is anyone here familiar with the mb command? I would like to specify where the .rpm package gets created. | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: & | 12:14 |
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| Stskeeps | ^ | 12:14 |
| w00t | aportale: o/ | 12:14 |
| w00t | i'd guess we'd need to look at rpmbuild's options | 12:15 |
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| aportale | w00t: OK. I could also do without hacking the mb script if I can safely assume the full path name of the resulting .rpm. How is mb used in practice by You? | 12:17 |
| w00t | hack hack hack, run mb, scp ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/{noarch,armv7hl}/*.{arm,rpm} root@192.168.2.15:/root, install/upgrade RPMs, test, repeat cycle | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | just remember the rpmbuild/BUILD, BUILDROOT, RPMS, etc is standard rpm insanity | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | the rpmbuild/ can be elsewhere though i think | 12:18 |
| aportale | w00t: Ok, thanks. You confirmed my fear ;) I'll just hack then. | 12:23 |
| aportale | w00t: and the scp line comes just handy. Will be part of the deploy steps in Qt Creator \o/ | 12:24 |
| w00t | :) | 12:24 |
| * w00t looks forward to trying it | 12:24 | |
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| aportale | Stskeeps: It would actually be cool if the rpmbuild dir was per-project and just a subdirectory, there. | 12:26 |
| aportale | Stskeeps: So, it would also end up on the development host in the current shared-home-folder scenario | 12:27 |
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| Stskeeps | aportale: well, you can vary the place of rpmbuild | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | ie, the root it's using | 12:27 |
| * aportale googles | 12:27 | |
| Stskeeps | w00t: url of mb? | 12:28 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: should be in sdk nowdays | 12:28 |
| Stskeeps | aportale: i think it's something as silly as --define '%root' or something like that.. | 12:28 |
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| Stskeeps | let me see if i have a copy.. | 12:28 |
| aportale | Stskeeps: Indeed. root it is | 12:28 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: canonical copy is in https://github.com/lbt/sdk-kickstarter-configs/ | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/s1-rpm-anywhere-different-build-area.html | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | search for buildroot | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | this is one area where i absolutely hate rpm | 12:31 |
| aportale | Stskeeps: Should be "--root". However, mb assumes ~/rpmbuild | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | nah, --root= means sysroot like | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | rpmbuild --define "_topdir $HOME/rpmbuild" | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | for example | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | _topdir is what contains RPMS BUILD BUILDROOT SRPMS etc | 12:32 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: there are some bad assumptions in mb itself, though | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | well change your assumptions then ;p | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | anyhow, --define "_topdir" should allow it to relocate | 12:33 |
| aportale | w00t: What do you think, should Qt Creator call mb or directly rpmbuild? | 12:33 |
| aportale | w00t: (I am not aware of the can of worms waiting for me when going raw rpmbuild) | 12:34 |
| w00t | aportale: using mb gives you the smartness of syncing source trees and stuff for "free" ... so I'd think it makes sense to use that - lbt might have a $0.02 | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | aportale: well, i can only say that you better have a good therapist.. | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | and mb wraps things nicely | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:34 |
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| aportale | ok, mb it is. The scp hack does not feel that bad after thinking of rpm ;) | 12:35 |
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| aportale | w00t, Stskeeps: Thanks, so far. I think I know what to try (scp hack) | 12:37 |
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| lbt | aportale: ty - I'd rather use mb and fix any issues in there; that way we have a single(ish) script to manage building rpms | 12:39 |
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| w00t | :P | 12:40 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: didn't you add some kind of thing that allowed us to extend sb2? | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | rules in $HOME | 12:42 |
| lbt | yes | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | tell me what it was? | 12:43 |
| lbt | was looking - thought it was on the wiki | 12:43 |
| lbt | in ~/.sbrules | 12:43 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:43 |
| lbt | use_outside_path("/everything") | 12:43 |
| aportale | lbt: Ok. I will now push the change that calls specify/mb. Will care for the .rpm on Monday. Today I will create that webview mode we talked about. | 12:45 |
| lbt | ty | 12:46 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: https://github.com/lbt/sdk-setup/blob/master/modes/mer-common.lua | 12:46 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: any examples of sbrules usage? | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | and not only use_outside_path | 12:53 |
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| aportale | lbt: About the mer-target-config webview: Is a prominent place like a top level Creator "mode" is the best place for that? Or should it be a tab in the options/mer dialog? nb it does mak no difference, effort wise. Just asking :) | 13:01 |
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| lbt | aportale: lets try the top-level mode first - between projects and analyse maybe? | 13:05 |
| aportale | lbt: ok | 13:05 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: that's the only example/use for now | 13:06 |
| lbt | you can add anything you find in fs_rules.lua - it operates like an #include | 13:07 |
| lbt | https://github.com/lbt/sdk-setup/blob/master/modes/sdk-build/fs_rules.lua | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:07 |
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| lbt | feel free to update https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Directory_Mappings | 13:10 |
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| Stskeeps | anybody who's on a non-x86_64 platform sdk, and has sb2 set up? | 13:34 |
| Stskeeps | must not be x86_64 host | 13:34 |
| lbt | my laptop | 13:36 |
| Stskeeps | can you tell me what host-gcc inside it says? | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | sdk must have normal gcc installed | 13:37 |
| lbt | it's not got gcc :/ | 13:37 |
| * lbt waits... | 13:38 | |
| Stskeeps | might need to re-run sb2-init | 13:38 |
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| lbt | OK - went into the VM SDK (which is a normal SDK) and it is all setup there. | 13:43 |
| lbt | sb2 -t nemo_n9_min host-gcc | 13:43 |
| lbt | no output | 13:43 |
| lbt | gcc on host is fine: gcc: fatal error: no input files | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | no output.. ? | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | as in no such file, or? | 13:44 |
| lbt | nothing at all | 13:45 |
| henrik_ | lbt: toolchain and targets in their own page http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/henriksa:/mer/Mer_Core_i486/ | 13:45 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/5351195 | 13:45 |
| lbt | nice henrik_ | 13:45 |
| lbt | I'm doing the minimal rootfs atm | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | lbt and when inside interactive mode? | 13:46 |
| henrik_ | lbt: if you have time to check and give some feedback. it's not really polished but look is quite similar than before | 13:46 |
| lbt | bash: host-gcc: command not found | 13:46 |
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| lbt | henrik_: yep - links at top | 13:48 |
| lbt | mmm | 13:48 |
| lbt | "Sinatra doesn’t know this ditty." :/ | 13:48 |
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| lbt | henrik_: needed a svc restart in the update | 13:50 |
| henrik_ | lbt: so works now for you? | 13:51 |
| lbt | yes | 13:51 |
| henrik_ | good :) | 13:51 |
| henrik_ | lbt: any ideas what to show in the frot page etc are welcome | 13:52 |
| henrik_ | front.. | 13:52 |
| lbt | lets see how it looks inside QtC too | 13:52 |
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| henrik_ | yeah. and the links at the top are not designed in any way... they are just there | 13:52 |
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| lbt | rename Front Page to Manage SDK; swap Toolchains/Targets around | 13:54 |
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| henrik_ | lbt: will do. thanks. i got to run now | 13:54 |
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| aportale | henrik_: Is the web service already running on a recent mer VBOX image? (And what was the url again? Sorry, forgot) | 14:01 |
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| lbt | aportale: easy is sudo zypper ref and zypper up | 14:03 |
| lbt | then zypper in sdk-webapp | 14:03 |
| * Stskeeps curses | 14:03 | |
| * aportale zyppering | 14:04 | |
| lbt | aportale: mmm | 14:04 |
| lbt | actually you won't have the right repos | 14:05 |
| yunta | :D | 14:05 |
| lbt | yunta: is --append="vga=0x343" working for you? | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: did you ever figure out to do the dark arts of sb2? like, debug the lua code? | 14:08 |
| lbt | yeah | 14:08 |
| lbt | sec | 14:08 |
| lbt | all removed | 14:09 |
| lbt | I tended to debug by print() | 14:10 |
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| lbt | aportale: I'm building you an image as we speak | 14:20 |
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| yunta | lbt: why wouldn't it? didn't you show it working yourself on demo? | 14:24 |
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| lbt | yep, I added it manually | 14:27 |
| lbt | it was in the .ks | 14:27 |
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| yunta | so, yes, it works for me :) | 14:30 |
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| aportale | lbt: Great! :) Thanks. | 14:34 |
| lbt | http://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121109-142014/ | 14:35 |
| lbt | bzipping it now | 14:35 |
| lbt | aportale: ok ... done : mer-sdk-nemo-i486-vm-sda.vdi.bz2 | 14:37 |
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| aportale | lbt: 403 Forbidden ( http://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121109-142014/mer-sdk-nemo-i486-vm-sda.vdi.bz2 ) | 15:03 |
| lbt | d'oh | 15:03 |
| CosmoHill | hey lbt | 15:04 |
| lbt | aportale: try now | 15:04 |
| lbt | o/ CosmoHill | 15:04 |
| * CosmoHill offers tea and toast | 15:04 | |
| aportale | lbt: wokrs, thanks | 15:04 |
| lbt | ty | 15:04 |
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| lbt | lua? | 15:18 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: what about lua? | 15:19 |
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| CosmoHill | i've not touched it in a while | 15:19 |
| lbt | wondering if that's the source of frustration | 15:19 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: host-gcc doesn't work and there's several files of dead code | 15:20 |
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| lbt | does there have to be a host-gcc file in usr/bin I wonder? | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | no, tested that too | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: there's a potential massive gain from us being able to host-gcc some parts, so | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | ie, much quicker qt builds, etc | 15:22 |
| lbt | what's the specification you want to implement? | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | atm? just finding out what has broken what has been working before | 15:23 |
| lbt | I've not come across host-gcc | 15:24 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it worked in older sb2 | 15:24 |
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| CosmoHill | lbt: have you ever used jekyll before? | 15:28 |
| lbt | no | 15:29 |
| CosmoHill | me neither until yesterday | 15:29 |
| CosmoHill | do you have ruby with yaml support installed? | 15:29 |
| lbt | typically, yes | 15:30 |
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| CosmoHill | i think you need to run "gem install jeykll" | 15:31 |
| alterego | How do I start/test a user session .service file? | 15:32 |
| lbt | see the wiki ? | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | systemctl --user start}stop | 15:33 |
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| aportale | lbt, henrik_: The latest mer VM image looks awesome! (running in VBox) | 15:39 |
| lbt | :) ... also thanks to yunta | 15:40 |
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| lbt | aportale: feels a bit more polished now - and when the mgmt UI is in qtc it will be even better. | 15:40 |
| aportale | yunta: Nice look, that Mer! :) | 15:44 |
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| alterego | me ponders why tonegend isn't starting : | 15:50 |
| alterego | Maybe it's a dependency thing. | 15:50 |
| lbt | alterego: ping | 15:56 |
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| lbt | sorry ... aportale ping :) | 15:57 |
| aportale | lbt: pong | 15:57 |
| lbt | https://qt.gitorious.org/+mer-qt-creator/qt-creator/mer-qt-creator/commit/07e74403133ac04be7c79be430310c688d39f7df | 15:58 |
| lbt | there's a stray #include "merpackagecreationsteps.h" | 15:58 |
| lbt | in src/plugins/mer/merdeployconfigurationfactory.cpp | 15:58 |
| aportale | lbt: ouch! | 15:58 |
| alterego | lbt: pongo | 15:59 |
| lbt | alterego: bad tab completion ... sry | 15:59 |
| alterego | :) | 15:59 |
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| alterego | Well, seems tone-generator wasn't being started because nothing depended on it. | 16:00 |
| yunta | aportale: graphic was made by mruk, not me, but thanks anyway :D | 16:01 |
| aportale | yunta: mruk is currently not in this channel. So, You need to keep the compliment :) | 16:02 |
| yunta | I'll pass it to her | 16:02 |
| aportale | lbt: Compile fix pushed. Thanks and sorry :) | 16:04 |
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| lbt | aportale: oh rats... merplugin.cpp too ... quick, force push :) | 16:06 |
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| lbt | and fixing that leads to more... let me take a look | 16:08 |
| aportale | lbt: double sorry. However, double push done. | 16:08 |
| aportale | lbt: Ok.. I need to check this. Embarrassing | 16:08 |
| lbt | *g* don't worry, makes me feel better from all the times I've done it :) | 16:09 |
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| rcg-work | hehe, yeah, in some way it is nice to see that people make the same (possibly stupid) errors oneself does | 16:10 |
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| aportale | lbt: :) Fixed (this time for hopefully sure) | 16:12 |
| lbt | yep - up .. ty :) | 16:13 |
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| rcg-work | well.. got a shower to fix :/ | 16:17 |
| rcg-work | cya'll | 16:17 |
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| aportale | lbt: last lame question for today. Can you give me the url for the mgmt-page? I forgot. | 16:37 |
| lbt | sure 127.0.0.1:8080 | 16:37 |
| lbt | ooh - does this mean a commit may happen soon :) | 16:38 |
| aportale | lbt: This evening, yes. But I need to rebuild Qt with Webkit first. Will take ~2 hours. | 16:39 |
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| lbt | aportale: really? | 16:40 |
| lbt | if I go to tools->options->help and set Home Page = http://127.0.0.1:8080 then it works in the current build | 16:41 |
| aportale | lbt: Yes. I am sitting at home with a centrino laptop. It would take 10 Minutes if I were in the office (icecc) | 16:41 |
| aportale | lbt: Yes. I simply had a Qt configured with "-no-webkit" | 16:42 |
| lbt | ah, gotcha ... Qt, not QtCreator :) | 16:42 |
| aportale | lbt: 127.0.0.1:8080 gives me a "Unable to connect". I have the port forwardings as descriped in https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Setting_up_and_Networking | 16:44 |
| aportale | lbt: But that's not an issue, I can still commit that today. | 16:45 |
| lbt | ok - i'll verify that. I'm still using a manually updated image so it's possible there's a bug in starting the httpd | 16:45 |
| lbt | if you ssh into the VM you should see "/usr/bin/ruby /usr/bin/rackup" in a ps -ef | 16:46 |
| lbt | systemctl status sdk-webapp.service should show running | 16:46 |
| aportale | lbt: I see the rackup process and the status is active(running) | 16:49 |
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| vgrade | evening all, weekend at last | 17:07 |
| CosmoHill | hey vgrade | 17:08 |
| vgrade | hi CosmoHill hows the website | 17:08 |
| CosmoHill | which website? | 17:08 |
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| vgrade | CosmoHill: I thought you were doing Mer one | 17:31 |
| CosmoHill | gotta talk about that | 17:34 |
| CosmoHill | in the meantime I've been learning Jekyll | 17:34 |
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| lbt | aportale: called away .. back now | 17:35 |
| lbt | OK, if it's running then it should respond | 17:36 |
| lbt | don't forget the screenshot is wrong: should be 8080 to 9292 as per the docs | 17:36 |
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| lbt | *grumble* .... swapping like mad | 18:18 |
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| CosmoHill | maaaaad? | 18:19 |
| CosmoHill | sorry, been watching too many australian videos | 18:19 |
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| aportale | lbt: Ha. Silly me had of course port 8888, there. Cool, it works and looks great. Now I need to finish buiding Qt w/webkit and I can pus a first version. | 18:27 |
| aportale | really nice that web tool. | 18:28 |
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| lbt | aportale: :) | 18:38 |
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| rcg | evening | 19:55 |
| CosmoHill | hi | 19:56 |
| CosmoHill | if my phone had an accelerometer it would be sick | 19:58 |
| * CosmoHill spins his phone on his desk | 19:59 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | CosmoHill: lol | 19:59 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin is sad that my nemo do not boot :( | 20:00 | |
| CosmoHill | (and occasionally off it) | 20:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will investigate | 20:00 |
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| CosmoHill | hello rc with a tail | 20:04 |
| rc_ | hey CosmoHill | 20:04 |
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| rc_ | had to reboot... something was not right wrt power consumption | 20:05 |
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| CosmoHill | wrt? a router | 20:05 |
| rcg | with respect to | 20:05 |
| rcg | don't know if i just made that up, though xD | 20:05 |
| CosmoHill | my mum's router runs DD-WRT | 20:06 |
| rcg | cool :) | 20:06 |
| CosmoHill | well, wifi bridge | 20:06 |
| CosmoHill | the main router runs shite in a box | 20:06 |
| rcg | usually i have a run time of battery of about 12-15 hours... right now when i rebooted it reported 4-5 hours and power consumption was stuck at 16-17W | 20:07 |
| rcg | sounds reasonable | 20:07 |
| rcg | except the shit thing | 20:07 |
| CosmoHill | my internet is faster but cuts out a lot more | 20:07 |
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| rcg | ? | 20:09 |
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| CosmoHill | I removed the bell wire from the phone socket which made our internet go from 1.4Mb/s to 5.5Mb/s | 20:09 |
| CosmoHill | but it's a lot less stable now | 20:10 |
| rcg | ah, i see :) | 20:10 |
| rcg | i had the last serious black out yesterday.. for some reason my isp decided that internet after 01:00 am is overrated | 20:11 |
| rcg | but well... am moving soon anyhow :) | 20:11 |
| CosmoHill | cool | 20:12 |
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| rcg | yeah, from a 60m² flat to a 100m² one :D | 20:12 |
| CosmoHill | holy balls | 20:13 |
| rcg | plus the country side is about 100m walking distance away :) | 20:13 |
| CosmoHill | Snap On Honda Apprentice Set - $5023 USD | 20:13 |
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| rcg | yay, this looks like a lot of tools :) | 20:16 |
| CosmoHill | my cousin has already spent £2000 GBP on his tools | 20:16 |
| CosmoHill | almost 19 years old | 20:16 |
| rcg | yeah, but good tools are for sure worth the money | 20:17 |
| CosmoHill | that would explain why I sheared one of mine today | 20:17 |
| rcg | might be | 20:18 |
| CosmoHill | £155 for a toolbox and tools | 20:18 |
| rcg | everytime i look for tools i am kinda deterred by the prices | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | i figure it's a starting point for me | 20:19 |
| rcg | but each time i bought an expensive tool i loved it and still use it | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | anything I use often I'd replace with good stuff if it breaks | 20:19 |
| CosmoHill | anything I don't use i have handy incase i do need it | 20:19 |
| rcg | and every time i bought a cheap one i regretted it and ended up with lotsa cursing ;) | 20:20 |
| rcg | sounds sensible :) | 20:20 |
| CosmoHill | snap-on want £12 for a 1/4 to 3/8 adapter | 20:20 |
| rcg | reasonable even :) | 20:20 |
| rcg | ah, well, you english guys.. never got used to those sizes ;) | 20:21 |
| CosmoHill | we used a mixed system so nobody knows what the other guy is on about | 20:21 |
| rcg | lol | 20:21 |
| CosmoHill | like my mates and I were comparing how tall / heavy each other were and we used different units | 20:24 |
| rcg | worked in garage as a teenager.. when older, imported jaguars came across it was always a little exciting ;) | 20:24 |
| CosmoHill | nice | 20:24 |
| rcg | hehe ic ;) | 20:25 |
| rcg | you know.. in modern computer science context this would be the famous "semantic gap" :D | 20:26 |
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| CosmoHill | rcg: do you do cars or computers for your day job? | 20:37 |
| rcg | computers | 20:37 |
| rcg | just used to work at a garage as a teenager | 20:38 |
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| rcg | more precisely a tire shop | 20:38 |
| rcg | hey Venemo :) | 20:38 |
| CosmoHill | I work on my own car a lot more and have been working on my bicycle for years | 20:38 |
| CosmoHill | hey Venemo | 20:38 |
| rcg | CosmoHill, sounds great :) | 20:39 |
| rcg | Venemo, jfyi version of 0.3.1 of irc chatter got accepted in CE:Apps | 20:39 |
| rcg | just in case you didn't notice yet | 20:39 |
| CosmoHill | I hate it when i ask someone a question and the answer isn't an answer | 20:39 |
| CosmoHill | me: "fancy a drive?" him: "just got home from the gym" | 20:40 |
| Venemo | hey rcg, thanks for taking the effort :) | 20:40 |
| Venemo | I's always nice to be surrounded with nice people :) | 20:41 |
| rcg | Venemo, yw :) | 20:41 |
| rcg | btw irc chatter now works fine on plasma active as well :) | 20:42 |
| rcg | already got some screenshots.. might upload those during the weekend ;) | 20:42 |
| Venemo | nice, thanks :) | 20:43 |
| Venemo | rcg, didn't it work before? | 20:43 |
| Venemo | rcg, did it need any patches? | 20:45 |
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| rcg | Venemo, well, it connected (as in i could see my pa account come online) but in irc-chatter the screen still showed that it tries to connect without giving any apparent error on the command line | 20:46 |
| rcg | i.e. i tested this with two irc accounts | 20:47 |
| rcg | but now it works really great | 20:47 |
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| rcg | btw. i packaged qmlcanvas for harmattan and mer yesterday | 21:07 |
| rcg | just in case anyone cares ;) | 21:07 |
| rcg | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=qmlcanvas&project=home%3Awonko | 21:08 |
| rcg | *someone | 21:10 |
| rcg | even | 21:10 |
| rcg | lately my writing skills really degraded :/ | 21:10 |
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| rem | hi, where in mer I can find the core dumps from "Segmentation fault" ? | 21:20 |
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| timoph | rem: iirc it doesn't dump with the default settings | 21:23 |
| rem | humm, I noticed... So only option is to run inside gdb :-( | 21:23 |
| timoph | need to set for example "ulimit -c unlimited" | 21:23 |
| timoph | after that it should give you the dump | 21:24 |
| rem | I will try, even inside gdn, it says that stack is empty | 21:24 |
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| Venemo | rcg, that issue was probably unrelated to PA vs Nemo | 21:28 |
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| rem | timoph: thanks I got a bit more info ( though the crahs is so bad the stack is corrupted :-) | 21:32 |
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| timoph | :) | 21:36 |
| pq | rem, if you happen to be on arm, I've noticed that you cannot get even stack traces without debug info | 21:37 |
| rem | pq: I am on ExoPC feeding mer bug 618, is reallya new specimen | 21:38 |
| Merbot` | Mer bug 618 in qt-mobility "QML app using camera dumps core in ExoPC but works fine in N9" [Normal,Triagedupstream] https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=618 | 21:38 |
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| Venemo | rem, can you reproduce this? https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439 | 21:44 |
| Merbot` | Nemo bug 439 in x86-generic "MeeGo graphics system doesn't work on WeTab" [Normal,New] | 21:44 |
| rem | venemo: I can try, the pastebin looks straight forward | 21:46 |
| rem | venemo: yes, same core, I guess you want me to put the stack in buzilla ... | 21:48 |
| Venemo | rem, yeah, thanks :) | 21:48 |
| rem | venemo: one thing, when I run inside gdb the program does not crash ... just run nicely in device. I get you will have hard time to hunt this | 21:53 |
| rem | venemo: but then it crashes when closing the app ... | 21:53 |
| Venemo | weird | 21:54 |
| rem | venemo: I tested also launching the app without arguments and it runs fine: puzzle-master. Why you need to pass those arguments in pastebin ? | 21:59 |
| Venemo | rem, the meego graphics system provides hardware acceleration and so better performance | 22:01 |
| Venemo | but it seems to be broken on WeTab/ExoPC | 22:01 |
| rem | venemo: yea, as well as camera cool features | 22:02 |
| Venemo | mhm | 22:02 |
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| aportale | lbt_away: Just checked my Qt build. Failed with 'g++: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-fuse-ld=gold’'. It seems that Qt(WebKit) has issues building with gcc 4.7. I will get that sorted on Monday. | 22:12 |
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| w00t | isn't that related to Bostik's work? | 22:15 |
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| rem | I guess this wiki needs some update: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/GettingStartedUsingQtSDK | 22:34 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 23:24 |
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