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| iekku | morning | 05:03 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | morn situ, e8johan | 05:59 |
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| e8johan | stskeeps: morning, you're up nice and early too | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. up north for once | 06:15 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: about the PM. Assuming cpufreq can drop the voltage when in low load and that the soc can sleep when nothing is running (and skipping pheripherals like wifi/bt/display/sensors for simplicity), what else do you think that HW adaptation should provide to upper layers in terms of PM? | 06:17 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: not sure what to answer :) but in terms of PM it's usually be periphials that matter to the userland. perhaps gpu frequency as well | 06:20 |
| Stskeeps | kulve: (just woke up not that long ago, brain not functioning well) | 06:21 |
| Stskeeps | because how you describe it is more like where the kernel decides on good PM | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | (bbl, got to go to office) | 06:23 |
| kulve | I guess the gpu freq should probably work like cpu freq: ondemand. Shutting down pheripherals is important but I'm not sure how that should work in general. How would the kernel driver know when to shut them down? I guess there's no one general answer for all pheripherals but they need to be decided separately for each on every different device.. | 06:24 |
| kulve | s,device,product, | 06:28 |
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| Bostik | morn | 07:07 |
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| CosmoHill | hey vgrade with a tail | 09:56 |
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| vgrade_ | Morning CosmoHill | 10:08 |
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| MSameer | mikhas: yup, doing it for 0.2 branch | 10:18 |
| MSameer | mikhas: current status ? gt clone and check for yourself ;-) | 10:19 |
| mikhas | MSameer, got the clone url? | 10:20 |
| MSameer | in a sec | 10:21 |
| MSameer | mikhas: git@github.com:nemomobile/qtgrilo.git | 10:21 |
| MSameer | mikhas: in general it works but it's still rough around the edges | 10:22 |
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| MSameer | mikhas: also no support for asynchronous resolving of properties | 10:22 |
| MSameer | mikhas: and not all GrlMedia properties are exposed. I expose what I need but not everything yet | 10:23 |
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| mikhas | any plans to upstream the API to Qt? | 10:23 |
| MSameer | mikhas: some functionality if broken like multisearch for example | 10:24 |
| MSameer | mikhas: why ? it's QML not Qt | 10:24 |
| MSameer | there is a C++ API branch but i was just experimenting | 10:24 |
| MSameer | nothing solid yet | 10:24 |
| mikhas | you think that Qt upstream is not interested in new QML APIs? | 10:25 |
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| MSameer | i don't know | 10:25 |
| mikhas | I can discuss with Lars. | 10:25 |
| MSameer | you can try pushing it forward :) | 10:26 |
| mikhas | well, it would probably need some work still | 10:26 |
| MSameer | it'd be a good thing of course | 10:26 |
| Bostik | I would guess that _right now_ the Qt guys are more interested about getting 5.0 out | 10:26 |
| mikhas | as in: not ready for upstream yet | 10:26 |
| MSameer | but it also means API cannot change | 10:26 |
| mikhas | Bostik, there's life after 5.0 | 10:26 |
| Bostik | and they very likely have stuff for 5.1 queued already | 10:26 |
| mikhas | MSameer, that's what makes API reviews so hard | 10:26 |
| mikhas | and yet, stable API promise is not a good excuse to avoid it | 10:27 |
| Bostik | mikhas: definitely is, but 5.0 release is kind of a big blocker right now | 10:27 |
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| MSameer | mikhas: true but at this stage of development API is still in flux so we can mark it as alpha or something | 10:27 |
| mikhas | I dont see it as "blocking", it's just a bit late that's all ;-) | 10:27 |
| MSameer | 5.0 will be out. it just takes a while due to all the Nokia/Digia complications | 10:28 |
| mikhas | yep | 10:28 |
| MSameer | mikhas: are you going to discuss on development@qt-project ? | 10:29 |
| MSameer | mikhas: I'd really appreciate keeping my in CC | 10:29 |
| MSameer | but i follow development@ so it's fine too | 10:29 |
| mikhas | I will probably discuss f2f first, to get a better understanding | 10:30 |
| mikhas | I have the grilo maintainer and the Qt maintainer at the same confernece after all ;-) | 10:30 |
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| MSameer | mikhas: good luck :) | 10:49 |
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| * CosmoHill just knocks his laptop off of a chair and onto a jack stand and concrete floor | 11:45 | |
| sroedal | casually? | 11:49 |
| CosmoHill | i was cleaning something and knocked it over | 11:50 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.stockmarketwire.com/article/4478535/Imagination-pays-60m-for-MIPS-Technologies.html | 11:50 |
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| Bostik | now that's an interesting one, I remember a coworker talking about MIPS and power efficiency at times | 11:54 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: release is brewed | 11:55 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: snapshot with proper cross binutils there | 11:55 |
| lbt | ty - I'll see what I can do | 11:55 |
| lbt | 20121121 or 28 ? | 11:56 |
| Stskeeps | .. i was thinking perhaps 20121115 | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | a quick release | 11:57 |
| lbt | OK | 11:57 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps earlier but we'll see | 11:58 |
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| sledgELCE | good morning | 12:14 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | how's barcelona? | 12:15 |
| sledgELCE | will try evangelising Mer in ELCE, would be nice to have had the stand :) | 12:15 |
| sledgELCE | but Tizen&Co's in a way :) | 12:15 |
| sledgELCE | Samsung&Google etc everyone's here :) | 12:16 |
| sledgELCE | even Microsoft :D | 12:16 |
| lbt | 0.20121115.0.0.1 | 12:16 |
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| sledgELCE | guys I need your help: I need a mouth watering Qt5 demo | 12:16 |
| sledgELCE | ideally compiled for armv7hl already to save me another 30min | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | qt5 cinematic experience | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | and it uses qmlscene only anyway | 12:16 |
| sledgELCE | zypperable ? | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | tar xf | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:16 |
| Stskeeps | and qmlscene it | 12:16 |
| sledgELCE | np :) src? | 12:16 |
| sledgELCE | ah ok | 12:17 |
| sledgELCE | got you | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | google for it | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | but no promises on it performing on n9 | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | it's really tough | 12:17 |
| lbt | you can adjust the settings down | 12:18 |
| sledgELCE | will be running on nemo (obviously, do't hink harmattan has qt5 repo) | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but still | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | you need to fullscreen for sure | 12:19 |
| sledgELCE | though harmattan is smoother :p | 12:19 |
| sledgELCE | hopefully is just UX, | 12:19 |
| sledgELCE | nemo & harmattan graphics optimisation have equalised | 12:20 |
| sledgELCE | by now | 12:20 |
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| sledgELCE | ok, going offline now, catch you up later (meeting dm8tbr is in place as well :)) | 12:24 |
| CosmoHill | cyas sledgE | 12:24 |
| dm8tbr | sledgELCE: tizen talk right now | 12:24 |
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| sledgELCE | yup, still in a hotel prepping demo, tizen? no my thing :D (but know you enemy from close is a good bit) | 12:25 |
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| dm8tbr | sledgELCE: need to troll the (in)security talk | 12:26 |
| sledgELCE | :D | 12:26 |
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| dm8tbr | you can also meet me at the tieto stand. I'm wearing a wine red coloured shirt. | 12:27 |
| sledgELCE | hackling from the back seat :) | 12:27 |
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| sledgELCE | yup, I saw the cunning tag card of your name nickname surname whilst running by :) see you soon | 12:27 |
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| sledgELCE | ah fail :{ qmlscene/Qt5_CinematicExperience.qml ASSERT: "i >= && < elementCount()" in file painting/qpainterpath.cpp, line 499 | 12:39 |
| sledgELCE | s/qmlscene\//qmlscene / | 12:40 |
| sledgELCE | oh googled sumthin | 12:41 |
| sledgELCE | sharps unfixabl http://kgronholm.blogspot.com.es/2012/08/qt5-cinematic-experience.html?showComment=1345145661388#c6738794171751633895 | 12:42 |
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| sledgELCE | last minute devving not a good idea :) | 12:42 |
| sledgELCE | Stskeeps, what are you runnig there on zephyr libhybris on hp tablet ? | 12:43 |
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| sledgELCE | any lower-end QMLs out there to show off Qt5 highlights? | 12:48 |
| mikhas | sledgELCE, how about the raw performance improvements when rendering stuff with new scene graph? | 12:50 |
| sledgELCE | well, anything goes really, links needed :) | 12:51 |
| sledgELCE | qmlscene doesn't seem to be friendly with nemo (lipstick) - just white box pops up, which youcan only close (clicking on it does not bring it forward) | 12:53 |
| Stskeeps | sledgELCE: remove the patharea or something in there | 12:53 |
| * sledgELCE so far got only hello world on the message box :) | 12:53 | |
| sledgELCE | --fullscreen worked, but still only white box with any .qml hmm | 12:56 |
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| sledgELCE | ok, will show hello world at least :) | 12:58 |
| sledgELCE | see ya l8r! | 12:58 |
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| skippy311 | o hai mer | 16:37 |
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| kulve | can "sudo mic create fs" in Mer SDK mess my computers clock? | 17:46 |
| kulve | every time I run it, my clock moves EET timezone amount of hours backwards | 17:47 |
| kulve | (at least when the mic fails) | 17:47 |
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| Stskeeps | kulve: wtf | 18:25 |
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| kulve | Stskeeps: guess how long I have been wondering what messes my clock.. | 18:35 |
| kulve | Stskeeps: the clock moves when these debugs are printed: http://pastie.org/private/jrwpvxaccnvhpgadmbfmlg | 18:36 |
| kulve | but I'm not sure how what the clock dockapp reacts | 18:37 |
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| hyde | ...dangers of running "random software" as root ;) | 18:42 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 22:32 |
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