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| iekku | morning | 04:53 |
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| kulve | since the channel has been so quiet during the night, I can see that my last sentence doesn't make sense, so: s,what,fast, | 04:57 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 05:14 |
| chriadam | good morning situ | 05:16 |
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| Stskeeps | morn timoph | 06:01 |
| timoph | how's things? | 06:04 |
| Stskeeps | pretty good.. week in finland | 06:04 |
| timoph | stopping by tampere? | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | sadly not | 06:05 |
| Stskeeps | i should really come visit there soon again | 06:05 |
| timoph | I don't even know how many times I've said that I won't to a school anymore but.. | 06:07 |
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| timoph | just got an acceptance letter to do a master's degree :p | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | scary, in what? | 06:08 |
| timoph | it. it's basically a continuation to my previous studies | 06:08 |
| timoph | except in english | 06:09 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:09 |
| timoph | and it's only 2 days or so in a month so doesn't interfere with work that much | 06:09 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning sonach | 06:10 |
| sonach | Stskeeps: hey :) | 06:10 |
| timoph | snow(ing) in helsinki? | 06:11 |
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| * Stskeeps isn't sure he wants to look outside | 06:11 | |
| timoph | things turned white here this morning | 06:11 |
| e8johan | morning | 06:11 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: http://www.tamk.fi/cms/tamk.nsf/%28$All%29/72F040F069D52C94C2257624002504E7?OpenDocument <- that's the degree | 06:13 |
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| Stskeeps | :nod: | 06:20 |
| iekku | oh, i was first one @ office | 06:23 |
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| alterego | iekku: I don't think I'm going to make it in today. Can you email me the docs and I'll sign & scan for you. | 06:50 |
| alterego | Oh, crap, wrong channel ... :x | 06:51 |
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| timoph | :) | 06:51 |
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| pq | the amount of daylight just fell below 8h in .fi :-) | 07:01 |
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| kulve | in helsinki. In Rovaniemi it's 6h38min today | 07:04 |
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| niqt | Morning | 07:50 |
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| kyyberi | morn | 07:56 |
| dm8tbr | moaning | 07:59 |
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| Jake9xx | morning | 08:02 |
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| dcthang | It looks like downloading from sb2 packages is too slow atm https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 | 08:29 |
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| dcthang | Does someone has the same prob?:) | 08:29 |
| Stskeeps | slow? | 08:35 |
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| dcthang | yep | 08:38 |
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| l4mer | hello | 09:19 |
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| l4mer | I need n950 schematics, specially connection between wl1271 and omap3. | 09:21 |
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| kulve | l4mer: in general product schematics are not publicly available and I would guess the n950 isn't an exception. | 09:28 |
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| sledgELCE | good morning | 09:38 |
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| sledgELCE | just had Linus talk keynote | 09:38 |
| sledgELCE | :) | 09:38 |
| sledgELCE | the conclusion was: "we have no plans, and we are happy about it" :)) | 09:39 |
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| sledgELCE | everyone clapped exctaticly | 09:39 |
| sledgELCE | recommend to watch the stream recording (at least the ending :)) | 09:39 |
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| l4mer | kulve: nice ;/ So, I will have some problems, I don't know which pins are used and how to setup omap_mux :) | 09:48 |
| kulve | isn't the existing mux in the kernel/bootloader enough info or are you saying they are wrong? | 09:50 |
| l4mer | I am working on kernel-adaptation-n950-n9 now, and seems pins/mux for SPI are configured wrong | 09:51 |
| l4mer | btw. there is also change in omap_mux framework code between new and old kernel | 09:52 |
| l4mer | :) | 09:52 |
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| kulve | maybe so but you should be still able to read the pin mux from the Nokias's kernel instead of the schematics? | 09:52 |
| l4mer | not really as long as there is one big configuration for all pins in old kernel | 09:53 |
| l4mer | I am not sure which one are correct and which should I use | 09:53 |
| l4mer | in case of n9 sdio I found something in the net - and after mux configuration wlan works fine | 09:54 |
| l4mer | but still have an issue with n950 spi configuration | 09:54 |
| l4mer | :) | 09:54 |
| l4mer | btw. new omap_mux implementation have a great debugfs options - while old one don't | 09:55 |
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| vgrade_ | https://mail.google.com/mail/u/2/#inbox/13ada68368ed8e1f weston for Pi | 10:30 |
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| pq | you mean http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2012-November/006133.html ? :-) | 10:31 |
| vgrade_ | pq sorry yes | 10:33 |
| CosmoHill | vgrade_ you still have a tail today | 10:33 |
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| CosmoHill | hey X-Fade | 10:51 |
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| lbt_ | auri___: ping | 12:14 |
| lbt_ | could you find out how to handle a situation where a user would like 2 instances of a vendor component plugin? eg, lets say we make a Nemo plugin and a PlasmaActive plugin for ech of their component sets (assuming quite a lot of similarity) - and a developer wants to develop against both | 12:16 |
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| vgrade_ | pq, I'm assuming I need wl 1.0 to work with Rpi weston | 13:00 |
| pq | vgrade_, yeah, it's all based on latest master of wayland and weston | 13:01 |
| pq | for xkbcommon, I think 0.2.0 should work, too | 13:02 |
| vgrade_ | ok, thanks. I'll prepare a Mer 1.0 wl | 13:02 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=blob;f=patterns/mer-graphics-common.yaml;h=fa1df10d17e176edcf671b34792e167f1e88314a;hb=HEAD uxlaunch there should be dropped? | 13:40 |
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| slaine | Anyone know what GPU the i.MX6 chips from freescale utilises ? | 15:33 |
| slaine | I'm assuming it's some form of SGX | 15:33 |
| slaine | But wondered if it might be Mali | 15:34 |
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| CosmoHill | hey slaine | 15:35 |
| slaine | Hey CosmoHill. Been a while | 15:36 |
| slaine | For ref, it looks like the i.MX6 is Mali, good news | 15:37 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: what is planned to mer -next update btw? | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | qt, accounts integration into qmf, .. alsa-plugins and abi compliance checker base | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | qt4.8.3 + backports, that is | 15:44 |
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| Sage_ | Stskeeps: can you retrigger https://review.merproject.org/#change,912 ? | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, let's see if i can do it from here | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | i need to manually review that | 15:46 |
| Sage_ | ah | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | i'll look at it tomorrow | 15:46 |
| Sage_ | I'll check this evening some of those legacy submits and clean them up a bit and resubmit. | 15:47 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 15:47 |
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| Sage_ | if nothing pops up :) | 15:47 |
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| * Stskeeps pokes build.merproject.org with a stick | 16:11 | |
| iekku | is it alive? | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | seems not | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:12 |
| iekku | :( | 16:13 |
| CosmoHill | try poking it with a cattle prod | 16:14 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: can gerrit handle multiple reviews to same components if those touch totally different files? | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | noo clue | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | try? | 16:14 |
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| Sage_ | or can I push twice from same git tree to review :) | 16:16 |
| Sage_ | http://pastie.org/5341135 | 16:17 |
| Sage_ | I want to do separate review so how to do that if I have the git tree already here | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | you git push HEAD:refs/for/master | 16:17 |
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| Stskeeps | if i catch anybody pushing directly to the git repos i'll behead them | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:18 |
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| Sage_ | .... | 16:18 |
| Sage_ | http://review.merproject.org/#change,967 | 16:19 |
| hyde | I believe the correct git term would be rebase, not behead? | 16:19 |
| Sage_ | how did I do that :D | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: you had a previous commit you're basing on | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | that i haven't merged yet | 16:19 |
| Sage_ | oh | 16:19 |
| Sage_ | didn't know that it was possible :P | 16:20 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: can you abandon the 646 https://review.merproject.org/#q,status:open+project:mer-core/gst-plugins-base,n,z | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:22 |
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| vgrade | evening | 19:13 |
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| the-gibson | morning | 19:26 |
| timoph | o/ | 19:26 |
| vgrade | the-gibson: hows things, doing Tegra 3 last time I saw | 19:28 |
| vgrade | timoph: \o | 19:28 |
| vgrade | timoph: weston with backend for Rpi posted today | 19:29 |
| Jake9xx | indexing database of nemomobile u8500 4.8Gb and counting.. this will be interesting | 19:29 |
| timoph | need to try it | 19:29 |
| vgrade | timoph: building now | 19:30 |
| pq | let me know how the rpi thing goes, especially the build guide is totally untested :-) | 19:32 |
| vgrade | pq, wilko | 19:33 |
| vgrade | pq egl >= 7.10 dep not found, but we have our own egl.pc | 19:34 |
| pq | right, a... you do know about android-pc-files.git? You just want to use your own egl.pc for some reason? | 19:35 |
| vgrade | pq, I managed to get 0.95 weston simple-shm running last night so your post this morning was timely as | 19:35 |
| pq | heh | 19:36 |
| vgrade | yes I saw the pc git but the egl.pc is part of the Pi adaptation for Mer | 19:36 |
| pq | ahh, right | 19:36 |
| vgrade | pq, I was not sure of where to go from there :) | 19:36 |
| pq | yeah, weston's requirements follow MEsa | 19:37 |
| vgrade | pq, right now I need the dummy wayland-egl.pc | 19:37 |
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| Jake9xx | if someone wants to give it a go, the indexed nemo build with all source (* is at http://ks21241.kimsufi.com:8080/source/ | 19:37 |
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| Jake9xx | *) there was a bug in script so one tarball type is not extracted, *sigh* | 19:38 |
| vgrade | pq, did you consider openWfc as a backend? | 19:38 |
| pq | vgrade, it was discussed, yes, but said that there was no implementation of it. Mm, actually it was openwfd. | 19:39 |
| vgrade | yea there is the display and compositor standards | 19:40 |
| vgrade | Pi has wfc | 19:40 |
| vgrade | weston used to have wfd | 19:40 |
| pq | the wfc headers appeared after I started work, IIRC | 19:40 |
| pq | yes, I know, I killed it :-) | 19:40 |
| pq | but can you do anything with only wfc, without wfd? | 19:41 |
| pq | and is the implementation actually a working one? | 19:41 |
| vgrade | pq, unknown | 19:41 |
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| vgrade | pq: the Pi backend mentions falling back to egl compositing is this still Pi specific or would other EGL implementations be able to use that (amlogic, A10) | 19:43 |
| pq | I'd be happy if the rpi-backend could be replaced with a standard openwf* backend, but I don't think it's possible yet. Unless one writes the openwf* implementations oneself, which kind of loses the point. | 19:44 |
| pq | vgrade, the fallback to GLESv2 is standard in Weston. It's actually the use of planes, that is the "extension". | 19:44 |
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| pq | vgrade, if you take only the first patch of the two, you'll have basically a GLESv2-only backend. The second patch is mostly additions. | 19:45 |
| vgrade | pq: ok | 19:45 |
| vgrade | pq: I've a lot to learn in these areas | 19:46 |
| pq | and you can also force the GLESv2-only path, which in the end is triggered by not setting one function pointer for weston core. | 19:46 |
| pq | --max-planes=0 | 19:46 |
| vgrade | pq: I have a couple of tablets with non X11 drivers I could try | 19:47 |
| vgrade | pq, mtdev is to old | 19:47 |
| pq | Weston is designed to have GLESv2 compositing, and planes or hw compositing is an afterthought. | 19:47 |
| pq | in Mer, you mean? | 19:48 |
| vgrade | yes | 19:48 |
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| vgrade | pq: is there any power saving benefit with using hw compositing? | 19:50 |
| pq | I've no idea, I did it because it was supposed to be more performant | 19:51 |
| vgrade | nice area of research | 19:52 |
| pq | yup | 19:52 |
| pq | readily implemented, you just need to test and measure :-) | 19:52 |
| vgrade | especially if when you can set max-planes to 0 | 19:52 |
| pq | yup. | 19:52 |
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| pq | I think which one takes less energy over time will also depend on how much repaints happen, so there's no simple answer. And does the firmware fall back to its own off-line compositing. | 19:54 |
| vgrade | pq: I tried to follow the commit notes today on off-line compositing | 19:55 |
| vgrade | ok configured and building but failed due to wayland version (wl_registry_bind) , still 0.95 on Mer. Will update that now. | 19:57 |
| pq | I have to go now, see'ya tomorrow. Good night :-) | 19:57 |
| vgrade | np, see u | 19:57 |
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| vgrade | ls | 19:58 |
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| AndreasWatch | Hi, is anyone playing around with a SmartQ-Device? Because I'm searching for the kernelsources... | 20:46 |
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| rcg | i am having an archos g9 tablet on which i am trying to get plasma active armv7hl to run.. | 21:22 |
| rcg | so far i can boot the kernel and have the kernel output on a serial console | 21:23 |
| rcg | but X is not starting | 21:23 |
| rcg | could anyone help me figuring out what's going wrong? | 21:23 |
| rcg | could paste the kernel output to pastebin or so | 21:23 |
| rcg | or someone even xD | 21:28 |
| dm8tbr | rcg: there is a pile of prebuilt images | 21:28 |
| rcg | dm8tbr, i am trying to get a armv7hl image to run | 21:29 |
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| rcg | reason is that i am trying to get newer version of pvr drivers working | 21:29 |
| rcg | up to now there are only arvm7l images for plasma active | 21:30 |
| rcg | however, newer pvr drivers are only available for hard float | 21:30 |
| rcg | hence, i am trying to get a hard float image for plasma active running | 21:30 |
| AndreasWatch_ | hi rcq, are you using the basyskom images? | 21:32 |
| AndreasWatch_ | try the internal install method... | 21:32 |
| rcg | AndreasWatch_, i am trying to build my own image | 21:32 |
| rcg | basis is the .ks file of the basyskom images | 21:33 |
| rcg | reason is that there is currently no per-built armv7hl image available | 21:33 |
| rcg | the point is that the newer pvr drivers (3d and video hw-acceleration) are only available for armv7hl but not armv7l | 21:34 |
| ljp | w00t: need me to stage that mobility review? | 21:37 |
| AndreasWatch_ | ah okay, I dont know much about the g9, because my usb-port is briked after two weeks.. | 21:37 |
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| w00t | ljp: just did it | 21:41 |
| w00t | thanks :) | 21:42 |
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| rcg | well, nvm... this pvr version does not match the xorg abi we use :/ | 21:43 |
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| * lbt waves to w00t | 22:27 | |
| w00t | o/ | 22:27 |
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| ljp | w00t: dont hesitate to add me to r any qt-mobility changes in gerrit. | 22:35 |
| w00t | ljp: I just submitted https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,39146 (which is not technically mobility, but I'll backport it once that goes in) | 22:36 |
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| * ljp has missed instant merges | 22:42 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: good flight? | 22:46 |
| lbt | yep - and no queues | 22:47 |
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| lbt | but we'd run out of oil and when it got filled there was an airlock | 22:48 |
| lbt | so I had to fix that when I got in :/ | 22:48 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 22:48 |
| lbt | anyhow ... done... and finished the release steps too | 22:48 |
| lbt | it's doing updatestorm | 22:49 |
| vgrade | pq, Stskeeps http://t.co/ndoVNBUK | 22:51 |
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| Stskeeps | vgrade: good work (and to pq's good work too) | 22:52 |
| vgrade | not my work | 22:52 |
| vgrade | I had simple-shm running last night but wa wondering what to do next | 22:52 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 22:53 |
| * CosmoHill gives vgrade, Stskeeps and lbt a cookie for all there hard work on Mer | 22:53 | |
| vgrade | pq's post this morning was most timely | 22:53 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: getting corruption but thats due to old firmware in the adaptation | 22:54 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps: we need a plan to move from 0.95 to 1.0 which takes in qtwayland as wekk | 22:56 |
| vgrade | well | 22:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i think for now wayland will follow a combo of what qt5 version we have (i don't do snapshots) and mesa ability | 22:56 |
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| vgrade | Stskeeps: ok | 22:58 |
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| CosmoHill | ngiht night | 23:07 |
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