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| Bostik | morning | 04:08 |
| chriadam | gmorning Bostik | 04:10 |
| iekku | morning | 04:26 |
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| the-gibson | has anyone tried to put together an image for the nexus 7? | 05:50 |
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| situ | Morning everyone | 06:04 |
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| Stskeeps | morn | 06:19 |
| * Stskeeps desperately needs coffee | 06:20 | |
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| Stskeeps | thanks :P | 06:32 |
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| kulve | the-gibson: that's a very interesting question :) | 06:47 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ok | 06:47 |
| the-gibson | kulve: im gunna give it a shot this weekend, well see how it goes | 06:47 |
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| kulve | the-gibson: I'm probably doing the same. I already have hw accelerated video/3d/window composition working on a reference board which I think resembles nexus 7 quite closely | 06:48 |
| the-gibson | one of the cardhu dev boards? Thats what ive been playing with.. havnt done much more than gettin L4T playing nicely | 06:50 |
| kulve | yes. I've pretty much created a hw adaption for tegra in mer and the according kickstart files | 06:51 |
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| the-gibson | kulve: cool! do you have any notes on that? ive been mostly doing debian things on it for HPC stuff | 06:52 |
| kulve | I haven't got the wireless working though. Any help with that is appreciated | 06:52 |
| kulve | I did copy some bcm firmware binaries and with those I can see the wireless networks but then bad things start to show up in the kernel log | 06:53 |
| the-gibson | i have that working.. at least in debian/ubuntu | 06:53 |
| kulve | with the official l4t kernel? Which bcm fw binaries? | 06:53 |
| the-gibson | i started on the l4t kernel and tweaked it a bit.. and i grabbed the binaries off a transformer prime or something | 06:54 |
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| kulve | yeah, I tried something similar but they seem to be unstable or a bit incompatible | 06:55 |
| kulve | do you have URLs for those binaries? I would like to try them (or see if they are the ones I'm already testing) | 06:55 |
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| the-gibson | hmm ill have to play with it again, been a few weeks since ive poked at the tablet vs the HPC board | 06:56 |
| the-gibson | let me see if i can find them, one sec | 06:56 |
| the-gibson | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/378267/bcm4329.zip | 06:59 |
| the-gibson | kulve: ^ | 06:59 |
| the-gibson | i believe thats the latest i had working | 07:00 |
| kulve | right.. I guess my cardhu has a different chip | 07:00 |
| the-gibson | huh, interesting is it one of the nvidia dev tablets? | 07:01 |
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| the-gibson | hmm looking around on xda-developers they reference the bcm4330.. the ubuntu image I plopped on earlier seemed to work.. well see what that one is | 07:04 |
| the-gibson | anyway nap time | 07:05 |
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| CosmoHill | Morning | 07:49 |
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| CosmoHill | I have no work today and wake up at 7am :( | 08:21 |
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| rcg | well, yeah.. got a day off and also woke up at about 8am :/ | 08:33 |
| rcg | or even earlier.. i just tried very hard to sleep longer xD | 08:34 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: fix binutils and we're good | 09:47 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: sure we need to bother adding sb2-* tools ? | 09:47 |
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| lbt | morning | 09:48 |
| lbt | no, I'm not sure there | 09:48 |
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| lbt | hmm - so no gold on mipsel? | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | i think it's a sideeffect of the "%{name}" stuff | 09:50 |
| lbt | I was a bit all over the place yesterday | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:51 |
| lbt | FYI ICS are sponsoring travel to QtDevDay for Mer | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not going, sadly | 09:52 |
| lbt | *nod* - you mentioned that. It's the main reason I offered to do it :) | 09:54 |
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| lbt | right lets see what I screwed up in binutils | 09:54 |
| Cosmo[PB] | I've been unemployed for 3 and a half days and I'm already watching Jeremy Kyle >.< | 10:03 |
| lbt | do not, ever, watch daytime TV... ever. | 10:05 |
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| lbt | morning auri__ and aportale | 10:19 |
| auri__ | morn | 10:19 |
| lbt | any blockers from my side for you guys? | 10:19 |
| lbt | my build issue yesterday appears to be unrelated to qtc | 10:19 |
| lbt | so I think I borked my sb2 target | 10:20 |
| auri__ | hmm.. still I'm wondering about the mkspec | 10:20 |
| auri__ | anyways I'm just fine tuning the target addition process | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: got time to walk me through that mechanism then? i dealt with sb2 a fair bit and the cross compilers so | 10:20 |
| aportale | lbt: I did not yet try the package creation. So I don't know if that is blocker free | 10:20 |
| auri__ | Stskeeps: will u be free in an hour? right now in the middle of something | 10:21 |
| aportale | lbt: Does .yaml to .rpm-package creation already have wrapper scripts? | 10:21 |
| lbt | aportale: (cd rpm; specify) | 10:21 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: i -think- so, else rest of day | 10:22 |
| auri__ | ok.. suits me | 10:22 |
| lbt | aportale: erm - that makes the .spec | 10:22 |
| aportale | lbt: So there is a specify.sh that calls specify remotely? | 10:22 |
| lbt | not yet | 10:23 |
| aportale | lbt: Then "mb build -t nemo_n9_min rpm/qmltrial.spec" does the rest, right? | 10:23 |
| lbt | we probably want an 'update spec' button that just runs specify and an update+make rpm that does both that and ^^ command | 10:24 |
| lbt | the reason is that the user may want to edit the spec file manuall | 10:24 |
| lbt | y | 10:24 |
| lbt | nb - I'm commenting on the UI without seeing it yet so not sure if that makes sense | 10:25 |
| lbt | (also typing whilst peering around a kitten at the moment :) ) | 10:25 |
| aportale | lbt: Well, I can immagine it makes sense for power users. But thos e power users would perhaps not use the .yaml file anyways, right? | 10:25 |
| lbt | not so sure actually | 10:26 |
| Bostik | awwwwww crap, the potential fallout from a single %reconfigure macro is ludicrous | 10:27 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: so what was the end result of getting qtwebkit building? | 10:27 |
| aportale | lbt: I suggest we can look at that update spec button, in a later iteration. I think it is possible to do without ugly stunts. | 10:28 |
| lbt | yup | 10:28 |
| lbt | hmm it should be run every time you apply a change to the yaml | 10:29 |
| aportale | lbt: it will be "hidden" in the project mode gui, in the deploy/package step. | 10:29 |
| lbt | OK | 10:29 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: with all the tricks & voodoo, combined with forced "ld == gold" and removing WebKit2 entirely - that allowed to keep the linking memory (barely?) within the limits | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 10:29 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: https://gitorious.org/modular-qt-specwork/modular-qt-specs/commit/f5056e46627ef650ea2e088a9d34fe02e62c6ae3 (had to do minor tweaks afterwards but that's the big piece) | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | there's really no way of forcing gold for gcc 4.6-linaro? | 10:31 |
| Stskeeps | that seems odd | 10:31 |
| Bostik | Stskeeps: I hunted down some obscure developer forums and it seems to be a gcc build-time option | 10:31 |
| Bostik | at that point I decided I didn't really need to know, when the stock source didn't have the option even available... | 10:32 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: that was what I meant yesterday | 10:32 |
| lbt | %define crossextraconfig --disable-libstdcxx-pch --with-arch=i486 --with-gnu-as=/opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-as --with-gnu-ld=/opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-ld --with-as=/opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-as --with-ld=/opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-ld | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but not related in this particualr case | 10:33 |
| lbt | should we not be setting an option *like* that for the non-cross setting of ld to be gold, not gnu-ld ? | 10:33 |
| lbt | or do we not want gold as the default linker for some reason ? | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | well, the fact it may break existing stack | 10:35 |
| Bostik | http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2011-06/msg00144.html <- use of gold depends on "linker plugin support" | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | i'd be interested to see the impact though | 10:35 |
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| Bostik | "-fuse-ld=gold" is available only in gcc 4.7 | 10:35 |
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| Stskeeps | well we can handle it in two ways | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | one, we try to see what happens if we make gold default | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | two, we see if we can make proper settings | 10:37 |
| * Stskeeps ponders | 10:38 | |
| Bostik | three, we can pull dirty magic in spec to cheat :( | 10:38 |
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| Bostik | of course #3 makes it pretty tricky to rebuild qtwebkit locally in SDK, which is probably not what we want | 10:41 |
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| CosmoHill | right, I'm going to the garage to take something apart before i lose my mind | 10:43 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: i'll do a test run of mer with gold binutils for your enjoyment | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | (as default) | 10:50 |
| Bostik | waiting for the fallout | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | that's the fun part | 10:52 |
| * lbt watches local mips build of binutils | 10:58 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: also, depending where you're invoicing for, your signed-off-by may be inaccurate | 10:59 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: yeah - I should watch that - but 486-cross is not on any bugzilla/task-list :) | 11:05 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: quick question on gerrit-ci steps - does it stop at first build failure? ie can I be sure binutils built on all other arches? | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | it stops at first build failure | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | and it does it serially | 11:21 |
| lbt | ah - so this is nothing to do with mips | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: Core:i486:gold on build.ci.merproject.org shall start to build later | 11:24 |
| Bostik | oookay | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | i'll do a full rebuild and see if things work | 11:24 |
| Bostik | I'll upload the latest specs+patches for qt5... tomorrow? | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | might be a busy weekeend for the builder | 11:25 |
| Bostik | aye, good point | 11:25 |
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| Bostik | ah well, what's couple of days more when it has taken this long to even get this far | 11:26 |
| lbt | FWIW we have 5 build hosts atm | 11:26 |
| lbt | no point letting the cobs ones sit idle | 11:27 |
| lbt | and I thought a cross-gcc rebuild may cause some rebuilds if it got accepted :) | 11:27 |
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| Bostik | "some" :D | 11:27 |
| lbt | :) | 11:28 |
| Bostik | for what it's worth, I'm personally convinced that in less than two years a 64-bit build environment is mandatory even in IVI land | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: i'm thinking a bit ahead in that area but i need some people with perl experience, OBS, and no history of mental illnesses | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | mostly because they'll have one afterwards | 11:31 |
| * Bostik glances in his past... yep, gotten past perl phase | 11:31 | |
| lbt | Bostik: and x32 ? | 11:32 |
| Bostik | lbt: hum, that's an interesting point and one I hadn't considered | 11:32 |
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| Bostik | but I've peeked at OBS code and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't dare touch that | 11:33 |
| lbt | at one point I thought it may help us but actually it's the inverse - I think it means that linkers need to rethink things | 11:33 |
| lbt | OBS code is easy in small chunks | 11:33 |
| lbt | the main issue is RPC-via-spooky side effects | 11:33 |
| * Stskeeps heads out for a little while | 11:33 | |
| lbt | binutils built :) | 11:34 |
| lbt | just -%find_lang %{?cross}gold | 11:34 |
| Bostik | lbt: the logical steps should not be that different from arm-THUMB code generation, so it shouldn't be a complete dive into unknown waters | 11:34 |
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| Stskeeps | i do want to make mer smaller than it is at the moment.. the thought of my original idea of toolchain-core does come back a bit | 11:36 |
| Stskeeps | but i'm not sure yet how i want to do it | 11:36 |
| Bostik | a dedicated toolchain-subset would be very handy | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | i know sb2 can do it, i've built busybox without any on-target toolchain | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | and acl | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | and such | 11:40 |
| Bostik | [e]glibc, coreutils, binutils, gcc, ... I think I saw you mention that it takes 7(?) packages to do an absolute minimum set | 11:47 |
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| lbt | wtf - it is mips specific | 12:05 |
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| lbt | aportale: ping - am I right in thinking we'll have 2 qtc plugins? 1 for Mer which does kits/VM/packaging and 1 for Nemo which does components in designer ? | 12:13 |
| aportale | lbt: As far as I can oversee it, having a Mer plugin and a Nemo plugin (which depends on the mer plugin) would be desirable and a clean division. | 12:15 |
| lbt | good - just checking | 12:15 |
| aportale | lbt: I assume that Nemo is not be the only Mer based platform. | 12:16 |
| lbt | correct - I expect that plugin to be the one that our vendors would adapt | 12:17 |
| lbt | hmm | 12:17 |
| lbt | maybe we should get the plasma active guys involved | 12:18 |
| aportale | lbt: How would Qt Creator currently automatically tell a nemo mer-target/kit apart from a plasma-active one? | 12:21 |
| aportale | lbt: That distinction would be necessary to property trigger stuff in the Nemo or Plasma-Active QtC plugin. | 12:21 |
| lbt | New project? | 12:22 |
| aportale | lbt: Or maybe I am just overcomplicating things, here :) The Nemo plugin just adds an palette of Qt Components and perhaps some IDE branding. | 12:23 |
| lbt | I really don't know where the component part plugs in - partly why I'd like to get an alpha up - in case it impacts the Kit side | 12:23 |
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| lbt | aportale: you could be right - but somehow we need "use these components" | 12:24 |
| lbt | heck - maybe the presence of a certain file in the sysroot? | 12:24 |
| lbt | does Qt have a components.d/ directory :) | 12:25 |
| lbt | yet :) | 12:25 |
| aportale | lbt: Afaik not a standard location (but I did not yet look into that) | 12:25 |
| lbt | no, I was kidding - but there may be a mechanism to register them? | 12:26 |
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| aportale | lbt: Components are usually installed as QML plugins in a location on the device/system where the QML plugin loader looks at app startup time. Qt Creator has a (not too elegant) way to let a QtC plugin register components in the Designer. | 12:28 |
| lbt | OK | 12:31 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: yay, glibc fails | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:38 |
| Bostik | ow | 12:38 |
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| Stskeeps | eglibc 2.15 idiotically relies on ld --version output.. | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:38 |
| Bostik | ow**3 | 12:39 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: can i ask a perl question? | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://pastie.org/5171697 - how would i sort all_files_in_dir ? | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | ie, a deterministic order | 12:59 |
| lbt | for $file (sort(all_files_in_dir('parts/inc'))) | 13:01 |
| lbt | http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/sort.html | 13:01 |
| lbt | in case you need more than a basic one | 13:02 |
| lbt | so maybe the () are wrong too :) | 13:02 |
| Stskeeps | there's some cases where i'm getting non-sorted outputs and it pisses me off a bit.. gives obs rebuilds | 13:04 |
| aportale | Why does the the instruction say guestwww:guestport = 9292, although the screenshot says 80? https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Setting_up_and_Networking | 13:04 |
| lbt | bug probably | 13:05 |
| aportale | lbt: is 80 correct? | 13:05 |
| lbt | I suspect 9292 | 13:05 |
| henrik_ | aportale: 9292 | 13:06 |
| aportale | lbt, henrik_: Ok, thanks. | 13:06 |
| lbt | the webapp will run as a user so can't use 80 .... maybe we should use 8080 for both to minimise chance of swapping | 13:07 |
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| * lbt stops suggesting silly polishing items just yet :) | 13:08 | |
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| aportale | Small fix for the instructions: I think it should be "cp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub ~/.ssh/authorized_keys" in https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Running_the_SDK_VM | 13:14 |
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| auri__ | I think it should rather be <Shared_home_folder_as_provided_in_VM_Settings>/.ssh/authorized_keys | 13:16 |
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| lbt | mmm gold is not built for MIPS but it doesn't complain about --enable-gold | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | interesting | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | ugh.. seems like some kind of copyright assignment issue | 13:22 |
| * lbt slaps yunta | 13:22 | |
| lbt | Stskeeps: I'll disable gold for mips at the file/install level but leave --enable-gold for all arches | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 13:24 |
| lbt | should make it easier to not forget when we upgrade binutils | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | make a comment that gold doesn't function for mips to our knowledge | 13:25 |
| lbt | yep - url? | 13:25 |
| lbt | I found some patches but not a resolution | 13:25 |
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| lbt | aportale: correct, that's nonsense | 13:25 |
| lbt | and tbh cp is a bad idea | 13:26 |
| lbt | if anything cat >> | 13:26 |
| lbt | auri__: we assume a shared $HOME | 13:26 |
| lbt | but if not, yes | 13:26 |
| auri__ | aportale: http://img.merproject.org/images//web/lbt/2-20121023-152417/ | 13:27 |
| lbt | henrik_: do we have a better/later image yet? | 13:28 |
| auri__ | is there on where one need not do the untar, retar with --hard-dereference and untar again? | 13:31 |
| auri__ | *one | 13:31 |
| henrik_ | lbt: latest vm image: http://img.merproject.org/images/web/yunta/5-20121101-190749/ | 13:31 |
| lbt | auri__: just do the untar on the host, not in the VM | 13:31 |
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| auri__ | aportale: ^^ | 13:32 |
| aportale | henrik_: that latest one has the non-hardlink fix, right? | 13:32 |
| lbt | it won't have | 13:32 |
| henrik_ | aportale: yes. if you use sdk-manage to unpack | 13:32 |
| lbt | henrik_: oh, clever - what did you do ? | 13:32 |
| henrik_ | lbt: yunta did magic :) | 13:33 |
| lbt | unpack to vdi/repack ? | 13:33 |
| henrik_ | untar in vm and then rsync to target | 13:33 |
| henrik_ | slow, but seems to work | 13:33 |
| lbt | nod | 13:33 |
| auri__ | aportale: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2#Alternate_targets | 13:34 |
| lbt | yeah - be careful around that - it's very alpha and quite complex | 13:34 |
| lbt | I have a simpler solution coming out soon | 13:34 |
| auri__ | \me thinks wikis ned to be updated! | 13:34 |
| * auri__ thinks wikis ned to be updated! | 13:35 | |
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| lbt | oh, it's still valid (afaik) - just a WIP | 13:35 |
| * lbt points and laughs at yunta | 13:35 | |
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| yunta | wtf? | 13:41 |
| yunta | lbt: ^ | 13:41 |
| Stskeeps | no pointing and laughing here | 13:41 |
| lbt | aww - even at yunta? | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | be nice :P | 13:42 |
| lbt | overwriting ssh authorized_keys | 13:42 |
| lbt | but its *yunta* | 13:42 |
| * lbt gestures and grins instead ;) | 13:42 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: think you have to explain in depth what exactly you're talking about.. | 13:42 |
| auri__ | Stskeeps: ping | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: pong | 13:43 |
| auri__ | free for ~15 min? | 13:43 |
| lbt | nah, it's yunta - he's clever enough to know :) | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 13:43 |
| yunta | can I laugh at myself? | 13:43 |
| lbt | yep | 13:43 |
| auri__ | so coming back to mkspecs | 13:43 |
| yunta | lbt: why should I? :) | 13:43 |
| auri__ | normally the mkspecs from /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/ is picked up | 13:44 |
| auri__ | the one that is symlinked to default | 13:44 |
| auri__ | to get the qmake.conf and qplatformdefs.h | 13:44 |
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| yunta | lol, lbt, that actually made me laugh when I wrote it :) | 13:45 |
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| auri__ | I am not sure which one is apt for armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 13:45 |
| yunta | lbt: I just followed installation, and didn't read the part explaining that my home will be mounted on /home/mersdk | 13:45 |
| yunta | lbt: so I totally scp-ed my keys there :D | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: so, to understand it clearly, when you launch a build with the vm, this happens with sb2 running qmake and make? | 13:46 |
| auri__ | I can see linux-arm-gnueabi-g++ and linux-g++-maemo | 13:46 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: yes, it does | 13:46 |
| lbt | it issues a sanitised "ssh <vm> sb2 qmake" | 13:46 |
| lbt | and "ssh <vm> sb2 make" | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: let me quickly take a look at mkspecs | 13:47 |
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| * lbt notes that this worked just fine very recently | 13:47 | |
| auri__ | qtc tries to select the mkspecs and passes that as argument when calling qmake | 13:47 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: is there any problem in simply selecting 'default' within the sysroot? | 13:49 |
| * auri__ wonders how it wokrd so smooth for mer! | 13:50 | |
| aportale | auri__, henrik_: (I am first trying the re-taring cure) Do you remember the tar command options for tar-ing it without the links? /me bad at tar | 13:50 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: because mer's actually linux-g++ even on arm target | 13:51 |
| auri__ | Stskeeps: depends! if you want a build for linux-g++ which I m pretty sure provides x86 spec.. then it should work | 13:51 |
| auri__ | really!!! | 13:51 |
| auri__ | woah! | 13:51 |
| auri__ | why? | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | well, sb2 gcc -> the arm toolchain | 13:51 |
| auri__ | why havent you configure Qt for arm ? | 13:51 |
| sledges | o/ | 13:52 |
| auri__ | but you use Qt built for x86 in an arm environment? | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: should i walk you through mer's qt building? :P | 13:52 |
| auri__ | yes plz | 13:53 |
| henrik_ | aportale: well you can untar in host as well. or use the latest vm image with sdk-manage | 13:53 |
| henrik_ | aportale: or if you want, untar in host and re-tar with --hard-dereference | 13:53 |
| aportale | henrik_: Ah, it was -hard-dereference whaich I was missing. Thanks. In case that fails, I will try the latest image :) Thanks. | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: okay, i'll do the ARM build. assume for a second that you're on an actual ARM machine, what do you do, you extract qt, you configure, linux-g++ is the configuration that matches standard linux, and you build, with using gcc/g++ etc | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: (continued in a moment) | 13:55 |
| auri__ | can you copy paste the configure comamnd with the parameters that you pass to it? | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 13:57 |
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| Stskeeps | http://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/qt-buildlog.txt , search for ./configure | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | + ./configure -runtimegraphicssystem raster -graphicssystem runtime -confirm-license -platform linux-g++ -prefix /usr -bindir /usr/bin -libdir /usr/lib -docdir /usr/share/doc/qt4 -headerdir /usr/include/qt4 -datadir /usr/share/qt4 -plugindir /usr/lib/qt4/plugins -importdir /usr/lib/qt4/imports -translationdir /usr/share/qt4/translations -sysconfdir /etc/xdg -demosdir /usr/lib/qt4/demos -examplesdir /usr/lib/qt4/examples -opensource ... | 14:00 |
| Stskeeps | ... -no-sql-ibase -no-sql-mysql -no-sql-odbc -no-sql-psql -plugin-sql-sqlite -no-sql-sqlite2 -no-sql-tds -system-sqlite -no-qt3support -xmlpatterns -no-multimedia -audio-backend -no-phonon -no-phonon-backend -svg -no-webkit -script -scripttools -system-zlib -system-libtiff -system-libpng -system-libjpeg -no-rpath -optimized-qmake -dbus-linked -no-separate-debug-info -verbose -no-nas-sound -opengl es2 -arch armv6 -no-openvg -lfontconfig ... | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | ... -I/usr/include/freetype2 | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: can you tell where the mkspecs are used then specifically? | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | when doing sb2 qmake, pass linux-g++ | 14:03 |
| auri__ | -platform linux-g+ | 14:03 |
| auri__ | this should be -xplatform linux-arm-gnueabi-g++ | 14:03 |
| auri__ | if you want a platform build | 14:03 |
| auri__ | or if you have a specific board then | 14:04 |
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| w00t | no, it shouldn't, because there's no cross compilation required - the whole system is already doing the cross compilation | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | nop, think of it as that we're building on a native arm machine | 14:04 |
| w00t | yeah | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | gcc in sb2 actually invokes the cross compiler itself | 14:04 |
| lbt | and each sb2 target is ~ a discrete native machine FWIW | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | sb2 enables a practically "fast" arm machine, backed up by x86 binaries (cross compilers, make, bash, etc) | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | so when you do sb2 gcc -o foo foo.c, it'll actually transparently call armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | (as that's what we set up in the target) | 14:05 |
| auri__ | ok.. I am absolutely a layman when it comes to sb2 | 14:05 |
| w00t | (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 is a very useful read) | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: no worries, just explaining | 14:06 |
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| Stskeeps | so all you have to do is select default from the sysroot as qmake parameter, it'll work | 14:06 |
| auri__ | ok.. if sb2 does the magic then its great | 14:06 |
| auri__ | unfortunately you have set the default as linux-g++ when you passed -platform linux-g++ with ./configure | 14:07 |
| auri__ | so it takes that as the "correct" mkspec | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | it is the correct mkspec :) | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | from our perspective | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | what does that cause in qt creator? | 14:07 |
| auri__ | well it call sb2 qmake -spec linux-g++ | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine | 14:08 |
| auri__ | will that be a problem? | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | will work fine | 14:08 |
| auri__ | but for the code model it might be ( i am not sure tho') | 14:08 |
| auri__ | since the platform definitions are picked up from that location | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | code model? | 14:09 |
| auri__ | in QtC | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:09 |
| auri__ | for the #ifdefs | 14:09 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: what's the magic to say : %ifnarch %{mips} in a spec? | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: isn't there a %{mips}? | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | if not, thats a bug | 14:10 |
| lbt | I was worried you'd say that | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | else just say mips mipsel and go on with your life | 14:10 |
| auri__ | would it be a prob if you call -platform with the arm spec? will sb2 get confused? or will it still call the correct cross compiler? | 14:11 |
| lbt | not familiar with that idiom ? | 14:11 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: get on with, ie, %ifnarc mips mipsel | 14:11 |
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| lbt | I see | 14:11 |
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| Stskeeps | auri__: the correct platform is linux-g++ - i'm just wondering where we're seeing an actual problem at the moment :) | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | like, what reads the name of the target and assumes it's not arm, as an example | 14:13 |
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| * lbt notes again that his report is likely to be a local misconfiguration since it used to work | 14:13 | |
| lbt | (but it *should* work - I did double check it) | 14:14 |
| lbt | ftr I do : sudo mic create fs /mer/mer/devel/mer-sdk/nemo_n9_min.ks --pkgmgr=yum --arch armv7hl -o /srv/mer/targets/ | 14:14 |
| auri__ | lbt: reported a problem and I was checking the configuration and found this.. which I assumed was inconsistent | 14:14 |
| auri__ | I am not sure if there is an actual problem ..yet | 14:14 |
| lbt | I'm not sure there is aproblem either - but it's good to go through this level of detail | 14:15 |
| auri__ | less work for me then :) | 14:16 |
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| auri__ | Stskeeps: thnx for the explanation.. didnt know sb2 was clever.. :) | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | auri__: it can even accelerate autoconf and other evil scripts | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | but that's off topic ;) | 14:17 |
| * auri__ maybe now likes sb2 a bit | 14:18 | |
| Stskeeps | it makes us able to deal with embedded systems as if they were full systems, so | 14:18 |
| Venemo_N9 | sb2 is one of the best things since sliced bread | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | yes, thank you nokia for paying me to get it into mer ;) | 14:23 |
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| lbt | 3rd time lucky on binutils ? | 14:24 |
| aportale | which sb2-* command can I use to remove a target? | 14:24 |
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| Stskeeps | aportale: i'm not sure there's one | 14:25 |
| * aportale tried sb2-config -d ..lol | 14:25 | |
| Stskeeps | you remove it's underlying sysroot and you can overwrite the target at any time | 14:25 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah, there should be one for consistency,.. | 14:25 |
| lbt | remove the ~/.scratchbox2/<target> | 14:25 |
| aportale | cool | 14:25 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: do we use cross-\\(.*\\)-binutils-accel ? | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | no, we can remove it in the future | 14:29 |
| lbt | because if so I think the spec could be buggy | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | it is, it's stuff that needs removing | 14:29 |
| lbt | *nod* | 14:29 |
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| lbt | auri__: aportale I'm likely to be in a meeting for the rest of the day - it feels like we're looking good for me to show off this work on tuesday? | 14:30 |
| lbt | and we'll have a little time on monday am before I leave in case I hit issues over the weekend | 14:31 |
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| sledges | lbt, going through https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/User:Tswindell/Qt_Creator_And_Mer_Integration, get /srv/mer/sdks/sdk/mer-sdk-chroot: line 128: /srv/mer/targets/mer-core-armv7hl-xorg-basic-qmlviewer/usr/bin/readlink: cannot execute binary file | 14:34 |
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| lbt | sledges: mmm sounds like a bad target ? using an arm binary w/o sb2? | 14:42 |
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| * lbt is prepping for a meeting so a bit afk | 14:42 | |
| sledges | I pasted you the output from qtcreators "Compile Output" | 14:42 |
| sledges | it is using qmake (the fake one from wiki) | 14:42 |
| sledges | maybe I should launch qtcreator from within sdk (with DISPLAY=:0 ) | 14:43 |
| auri__ | lbt: I think its ok for a demo .. | 14:48 |
| lbt | auri__: cool | 14:48 |
| aportale | lbt: This morning you pasted (cd rpm; specify); mb build -t nemo_n9_min rpm/qmltrial.spec | 14:50 |
| aportale | lbt: mb is not found. Did you mean sb2? | 14:50 |
| lbt | yeah | 14:50 |
| lbt | no, mb | 14:50 |
| lbt | it should be in the VM | 14:51 |
| aportale | lbt: Not on mine, apparently. I#ll try zypper | 14:51 |
| lbt | as root in the vm try: zypper in sdk-utils | 14:51 |
| lbt | yeah | 14:52 |
| sledges | whois tswindell ? | 14:53 |
| Stskeeps | -> alterego | 14:53 |
| sledges | :D | 14:53 |
| sledges | was just talking to him on #nemomobile | 14:54 |
| aportale | lbt: Cool. mb is now installed, and it does something. But I did not yet find my rpm package. | 14:54 |
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| sledges | alterego, could you look at my qt5-mer@qtcreator bit ? | 14:54 |
| sledges | above | 14:54 |
| lbt | the mb -t arg is the same as the sb2 one | 14:54 |
| lbt | it wasn't developed with this in mind so we will want to tweak it | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | (why are we using mb, just ooi?) | 14:55 |
| lbt | it works | 14:56 |
| lbt | it does a non-osc spec->rpm via rpmbuild | 14:56 |
| aportale | lbt: I adjusted it to my values, and it gave this output: http://pastie.org/5172131 | 14:57 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yeah, ok | 14:57 |
| lbt | I'm sure there are better ways - but it sets up the SOURCES dir etc | 14:57 |
| aportale | lbt: ...but no .rpm package in sight.. (anyways, we can discuss that on Monday, since now You are busy) | 14:57 |
| alterego | sledges: not sure what's causing that. What are you doing when you get that message? Running qmake or building? | 14:57 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: nah, you're right | 14:58 |
| sledges | building | 14:58 |
| sledges | which triggers qmake | 14:58 |
| sledges | "/srv/mer/scripts/qmake" '/path-to-my-project.pro' -r -spec linux-g++ CONFIG+=release | 14:59 |
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| lbt | aportale: hmm I suspect your sb2 target is missing a couple of pkgs | 14:59 |
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| lbt | rpm-build and meego-rpm-config | 15:00 |
| lbt | I've been putting them into my minimal setups now | 15:00 |
| lbt | aportale: is your code pushed? even not working? | 15:01 |
| aportale | lbt: Only the code thath generates the .yaml file is pushed. | 15:02 |
| lbt | I need to fix the nemo minimal root issue and then I need to push a tarball | 15:02 |
| lbt | push it all :) | 15:02 |
| aportale | lbt: the rest is in the mer-packaging branch (and pushed) | 15:02 |
| lbt | then I can look at it over the w/end - if it assumes those command then I'm sure it'll work :) | 15:02 |
| lbt | OJ | 15:02 |
| lbt | OK | 15:02 |
| aportale | lbt: But I need some hacking to get the packaging into a deploystep | 15:02 |
| lbt | yeah, I can understand that | 15:03 |
| sledges | alterego, ^ | 15:04 |
| aportale | lbt: with the two additional packages I get a bit further, but then: "error: Bad owner/group: /home/mersdk/rpmbuild/SOURCES/nemoapp.tar.bz2" | 15:04 |
| * aportale did not create /home/mersdk/rpmbuild/ manually | 15:04 | |
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| sledges | trying to break it down by launching the command manually | 15:04 |
| lbt | ah :( | 15:05 |
| lbt | aportale: all this stuff is fixed here but I had to do the 486 cross- stuff | 15:05 |
| aportale | lbt: OK, no worry. I am not blocked by this, since I need to do the buildstepp stuff first. | 15:06 |
| lbt | essentially you need to fix etc/passwd and etc/group in the sysroot | 15:06 |
| aportale | lbt: I just wanted to test if the commands work when invoked manually | 15:06 |
| lbt | in the vm grep sdkbuild from /etc/passwd and >> etc/passwd in sysroot | 15:07 |
| lbt | same for etc/group | 15:07 |
| sledges | alterego, I have so many --binds and symlinks around my system, that mersdk clearly stops liking things | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: i'm pretty sure mersdk just adds on top of that | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:07 |
| sledges | true, but it doesn't get lost only amongst the stuff it added itself ;) | 15:08 |
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| sledges | half awake? :) | 15:15 |
| alterego | Can't wait for SDK VM integration proper with qt creator ;) | 15:18 |
| alterego | sledges: maybe you should try using the VM :P | 15:18 |
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| kulve | the-gibson: could you also provide your kernel config for reference? | 15:20 |
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| sledges | alterego, I sorted it out, now getting good output from command line, but qtcreator still complains like before (same qmake invocation) | 15:22 |
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| Stskeeps | why is the perl build system as crazy as the language? | 15:34 |
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| lbt | it's old | 15:35 |
| lbt | it runs on windows too | 15:35 |
| lbt | it has tests | 15:35 |
| CosmoHill | with people it's the older the wiser | 15:42 |
| CosmoHill | with code it's the older the more hacky and held together with spit and sticks | 15:43 |
| CosmoHill | also it's perl | 15:43 |
| sledges | and bugs covered | 15:43 |
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| lbt | to be fair perl has very few bugs ... other than the syntax | 15:46 |
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| * sledges has just successfully ported qt4 to qt5 and compiled it for armv7hl under mer target (outside qtcreator, but qtcreator was still prividing intellisense for qt5-arm) !!!!!! | 15:52 | |
| sledges | 8) | 15:52 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: looks like binutils worked at last | 15:53 |
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| lbt | sledges: neat - that's been the design goal | 15:53 |
| sledges | you guys rock!!! | 15:54 |
| lbt | good group effort :) | 15:54 |
| sledges | awesome | 15:54 |
| sledges | I did not find any other qt5 tutorials out there, apart from with Mer ;) | 15:55 |
| sledges | time-to-market springs to mind ;) | 15:55 |
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| sledges | hm, on launching it on Nemo, app says Aborted | 15:58 |
| sledges | I should start with hello world :{ | 15:58 |
| sledges | or find way to debug it | 15:58 |
| CosmoHill | I wrote a hello world program, it said "Goodbye Cosmo" | 15:58 |
| CosmoHill | it was creepy | 15:59 |
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| sledges | :} | 16:00 |
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| sledges | guys i'm getting this: https://bugs.tizen.org/jira/browse/TIVI-112 | 16:08 |
| sledges | (gdb says the same) | 16:08 |
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| sledges | and a simplest qt5 qml2 hello world segfaults | 16:25 |
| sledges | i do not have nemo target on my PC, I am building against mer-core target - should not be a problem ? | 16:26 |
| sledges | (launching on latest nemo on N9 though, with qt5-* stuff installed) | 16:26 |
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| jonni | sledges: that looks like that you just havent compiled/installed xcb platform plugin, then your options is to compile xcb, or start the demoes by specifying with commandline which platform to use. | 16:39 |
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| sledges | qt5-plugin-platform-xcb is available on nemo to be installed | 16:44 |
| sledges | jonni, | 16:44 |
| sledges | and also on local PC mersdk mer-core could have it installed, what do you mean by compiling ? | 16:44 |
| sledges | does my source code have to bind against it and thus get recompiled ? | 16:44 |
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| Stskeeps | sledges: install qt5-plugin-platform-xcb on device | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | simply as that | 17:00 |
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| sledges | Stskeeps, done that, didn't work | 17:04 |
| sledges | :{ | 17:04 |
| sledges | trying from 0 | 17:04 |
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| sledges | I can't launch a qt5 app on my desktop on the first place - same error: segfaults | 17:04 |
| sledges | if I show qmessagebox or anything else graphics | 17:05 |
| sledges | on my desktop - archlinux x64, packages qt5-qt{core,quick1(as declarative)}-git are installed from AUR | 17:05 |
| sledges | qtcreator configured | 17:05 |
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| sledges | libxcb in place | 17:06 |
| sledges | Stskeeps, ^ | 17:06 |
| Stskeeps | sledges: sorry, i don't support AUR :/ | 17:07 |
| Stskeeps | if it was in mer sdk it'd be easier | 17:07 |
| sledges | but it segfaults the same way as on nemo-arm | 17:07 |
| sledges | ;) | 17:07 |
| Stskeeps | sure, but .. :P | 17:07 |
| sledges | d: :) | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | install the right plugin for your distro then :P | 17:09 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: 211 done, 142 to go, 2 failed (openssl, glibc) | 17:36 |
| Stskeeps | not bad so far | 17:36 |
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| sledges | IT ALL WORKS!!! | 17:44 |
| sledges | 8D | 17:44 |
| sledges | i was missing qt5-declarative-qtquick-plugin | 17:44 |
| sledges | ~ | 17:44 |
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| sledges | what a great start of weekend | 17:58 |
| sledges | but it's a mess in qt5: qt-declaratives provides qtquick, and qtquick provides qt-declarative :( | 17:58 |
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| Bostik | sledges: if my packaging has such bugs, please note them down so I can fix the thing | 18:26 |
| Bostik | the chains have gone through *literally* half a dozen renames and/or module shuffles | 18:27 |
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| vgrade | weekend at last | 20:18 |
| special | finally, time for all that work you didn't have time for during the week | 20:22 |
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| CosmoHill | vgrade: :) | 20:24 |
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| sledges | Bostik, not you, it"s ArchLinux AUR qt5 packager :) but will do for your side, well done Bostik ! | 20:28 |
| sledges | special, :D | 20:28 |
| CosmoHill | bah, so hard to find T9 phones :( | 20:29 |
| CosmoHill | i mean decent ones, not the £9.99 you give to a young child one | 20:29 |
| CosmoHill | "you searched for 'standard phone', did you mean 'shite'?" | 20:34 |
| ali1234 | T9 is software | 20:35 |
| ali1234 | isn't it? | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | maybe | 20:35 |
| CosmoHill | i mean a phone with a physical keypad | 20:35 |
| ali1234 | a T9 phone is one with a number pad | 20:35 |
| ali1234 | "Text on 9 keys" | 20:35 |
| ali1234 | how about a nokia C3 touch & type | 20:36 |
| ali1234 | one of the last phones they made before elop ruined everything. it's quite nice | 20:36 |
| ali1234 | and also very cheap | 20:36 |
| ali1234 | ie free on any contract | 20:37 |
| ali1234 | https://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/pay-monthly/nokia-c3-touch-and-type/ | 20:37 |
| CosmoHill | hmm | 20:38 |
| ali1234 | C2-01 also | 20:38 |
| ali1234 | not as nice looking in my opinion | 20:38 |
| CosmoHill | i did have a sony w995 but gone back to my sony k800i | 20:39 |
| ali1234 | ugh. | 20:40 |
| CosmoHill | i like sonys | 20:40 |
| CosmoHill | or sonies :/ | 20:40 |
| ali1234 | k800i is horrible plastic rubbish that breaks in about 2 days | 20:40 |
| ali1234 | but to each their own | 20:40 |
| CosmoHill | really? I've thrown mine at walls, people and dogs and it still works | 20:40 |
| ali1234 | it still works but i bet the case is all smashed up | 20:41 |
| ali1234 | every one of those phones i have ever seen has button missing and cracked cover | 20:41 |
| CosmoHill | looks fine | 20:41 |
| CosmoHill | I've had two nokias in my life, both died from a cracked screen | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | one was a fat friend sitting on it | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | another was just random | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | what was that matrix phone | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | with the sliding cover | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | nokia 7110 | 20:43 |
| CosmoHill | fictional? | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | that was a bad phone | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | peope only bought it cos it was in the matrix | 20:43 |
| ali1234 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H16HRiYOAzQ | 20:44 |
| CosmoHill | I want the phone the woman has the first animatrix video | 20:44 |
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| ali1234 | i want the phone zoolander has in zoolander | 20:45 |
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| CosmoHill | stupid email | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | just went bing but the email was sent 7 mins ago | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | lol | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | email isn't supposed to be instant messaging | 20:47 |
| ali1234 | it probably got greylisted or something | 20:47 |
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| Bostik | sledges: thanks, nice to know | 20:55 |
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| CosmoHill | my friend told me the only phones he'd get | 20:56 |
| CosmoHill | pretty much the most expensive ones and total overkill for what i want | 20:56 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 23:08 |
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